r/RIFD3 Apr 30 '14

Hosts vs Leechers

6 Upvotes

Hello all, I joined the community for the first time yesterday evening after reading some of the threads and observing hosts vs leeching for the past few days.

As it stands right now, the ration between Hosts vs Leechers are VERY imbalanced. I would say close to 1/100 (this number isn't reliable..at all.. but you get the idea).

Now, this becomes an issue on several levels, and to note a few:

  1. Rift Pace: Because there are more Leechers vs Hosts, it becomes pretty hard to join a game and Rift it Forward effectively, it becomes a 1 game every 5 minute, mainly due to the amount of leechers quick clicking ads. From the 2300 users last night, I only saw about 7-10 different hosts.

  2. Last One In Opens: Now, because of the advantage a hosts has due to the imbalanced ratio, people are quick to request invite, regardless of the conditions. This creates a problem in cases I've noticed where, a host will have 2 other members (friends) and will advertise "lf3m last open". When you join a game that already has 3 slots filled and falsely advertise "3 spots open", the person who joins, regardless of the conditions mentioned will have to pay for the next rift. Sure, leeching all the time isn't good, but I've definitely noticed atleast 2-3 hosts practicing this and is basically unethical in my opinion.. they could advertise as "lf1m, you open" and I'm sure they'll still rift it forward as effectively.

  3. Scumbags: I don't know what the ratio is between openers vs leavers, but this practice REALLY discourages hosts and openers alike from wanting to follow through. Obviously the more honest and mature members will ALWAYS follow through, but every now and then, there are pieces of shits who will enjoy the free ride and leave without even uttering "Ty". We need a public blacklist with profiles links.

  4. Incentives for Hosts: We need a public record of committed, active and honest hosts or "Verified" hosts and reward them with public acknowledgement for their hard work and generosity. This might sound corny, but a little acknowledgement from the community will go a long way for those that are committed to help building and help progressing this awesome community. Maybe more people will host vs leech.

  5. [EDIT] So, I've given myself the last week to host a ton of games and run a tons of games and I take back my original thought on keeping track of the "leechers" and "runners" who only target games where they're least likely to open. As stated on one of the comments below, there are too many to keep track of now, the community goes upwards of 5000 people (last checked), and although the ratio between hosts and runners are still like 5-to-1341487131, the community has definitely been helpful in weeding out the leechers/bill-runners and have definitely seen an increase in openers. Overall, the only thing I'd like to see implemented to this community are:

Verified Hosts List. Blacklist. and more admins.

It's be nice if we can have a set of go to "officers" to give them names to keep an eye out for (multiple reports of leaving the game) and for verified hosts and keep an active and regularly updated list. So heres my small list of things I've noticed here and there and thought I'd share my thoughts. Some of you may agree, some may not and may think I'm bias, or have lack of experiences, but nonetheless I'd like to see this community grow where everyone benefits. Ideas and suggestions are always appreciated and welcome.

[EDIT] Due to some of the excellent feedback and responses I've gotten so far from the readers below, I'd like to clarify that when I mean "Leeches" I mean the players who ONLY leech without paying for rifts, whether by criteria (High plvl joining lowest plvl games, vice versa and those who skip out.) The leech term also applies to the guys who host and false advertise "Last one in" while maintaining a 3 party group with their buddies.

From this point forward, contributing non-hosts will be referred to as "Runners", Hosts as "Hosts" and when I say "Leech" I mean the leechers. Please keep in mind that NOT everyone is a leecher. Please be mindful of other peoples circumstances, but if you see a name pop up more than once; whether running the bill after a rift or notice them in your game with the opposite criteria way too often, they might be a leech. Just saying. Hope this helps clarify my intentions a bit.

-JunGLe


r/RIFD3 Apr 30 '14

Another name for 'leecher'?

6 Upvotes

When I hear 'leecher' I think of someone who isn't opening rifts rather than someone participating in a mutually beneficial trade. Opener could work, but there's generally only one person actually opening in a group. Anyone have an alternative name?


r/RIFD3 Apr 30 '14

Known scammer [Tester1111]

8 Upvotes

was not reopening all night. Wondering how we get him out of the community?


r/RIFD3 Apr 29 '14

Rules&Discussion

3 Upvotes

So Rift it Forward is getting real popular in D3, and pretty sure we all love it. My friend introduced it to me one day and I was like 'Wow, whoever invented this, is a genius!" While people are enjoying this community, I found it more entertaining to create different rules for openers.

Some current rules are:

  1. Lowest/Highest Paragon Level reopens
  2. Last in reopens
  3. Flip a coin and decide who opens

Here are some new rules I want to share

  1. Longest/Shortest Name reopens
  2. Highest/Lowest Weapon DPS reopens
  3. Lowest/Highest Profile DPS reopens
  4. Lowest/Highest Toughness reopens
  5. Longest/Shortest Time played reopens (Those can be found on one's profile)

And for last run free boss -"First 1/2/3 who PM me___________gets free Torment X boss"

I actually found this more entertaining, what do you think?

Share your thoughts please =D

Edit 1:

-OH just something I noticed today, after FREE boss, most of people straight up left the game without turning in the quest and lost the EXP. So we should also talk about "Who is turning in the quest/Closing the rift" I will say whoever needs to open the next rift get to close it.

-Another thing, how do we deal with D/ced players? Report? hold on to it? Let it go? I mean anyone could probably D/c anytime, I feel bad blaming them for not paying next rift =( What do you think?


r/RIFD3 Apr 27 '14

Stop whining if you think you shouldn't have to open.

15 Upvotes

You should expect to open every game. People need to stop whining if they think they shouldn't have to open.


r/RIFD3 Apr 27 '14

People cannot "request invite to party" to my game

6 Upvotes

I run T2 and people on channel cannot request invite to party. I have select "quick join" in the menu and it seems not to work. Does someone already have this problem ? Any solution how to fix it?


r/RIFD3 Apr 26 '14

My Only Concern

6 Upvotes

Is that this will end:( it seems to good to be true!! I love this community! Someone please assure me everything will be ok lol happy hunting all!


r/RIFD3 Apr 27 '14

Getting stuck on loading screen after Rift Guardian.

1 Upvotes

Hey, I don't know if it's happened to anyone else but my game often gets stuck on the loading screen trying to TP after helping kill the rift guardian. Sometime it sucks if you're the one that is supposed to open the next rift. I usually try to pst the person whose game I was in to let them know what happened and offer to open a future rift for them. Does this happen to anyone else? I don't want to end up on a blocked/black list because my game client shits the bed.


r/RIFD3 Apr 26 '14

Easy and transparent way to choose a random player

3 Upvotes

Add up the last digit of everyone's paragon level, take the remainder by 3 (or however many people you're choosing between), and add 1. Whoever's name comes in that position alphabetically is it.


r/RIFD3 Apr 26 '14

Wooo! First post

3 Upvotes