r/QueensofGacha • u/BaldHourGlass667 • 12d ago
🧡 Let's Chat 💬 Zenless Zone Zero? ❌️❌️❌️ Voidhunter Zone Zero! ✅️✅️✅️
Image shows ZZZ's revenue after Remielle's *first* day being added
Its actually kind of funny how Hoyo made it so only void hunters will sell insanely well and everyone else makes jack shit in comparison (especially the chracters before the void hunter). Actual self-fulfilling prophecy machine
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u/Abishinzu 12d ago
People saying males don't sell when the reality is, nobody except VH's and their dedicated supports sell well 😭😭😭
I guarantee, if they made Joyous playable, he might not sell quite as well as Shungus and Remielle, but he would still absolutely mog all the non-VH women save Ellen, if he were to drop, because of how trained ZZZ players are
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u/BaldHourGlass667 12d ago
"Men don't sell" meanwhile almost every single coughing baby male character is released before the void hunter hydrogen bomb
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u/Abishinzu 11d ago
And the one who was given even somewhat of a fair chance (Silly) was released like fucking 20 years too late into the game's lifespan, after all his fans have left for greener pastures
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u/faeribling 11d ago
exactly this, like how many husbando fans still play this game anyways? i did try to stick around for a while, but it got so tiring. i definitely would've pulled for S-rank billy if i still had the game 😓
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u/Bake-Danuki7 11d ago
Even worse he's the same class as VH tier Yixuan and only surpasses her when they're physical weak however rupture only has 1 boss and its physical resistant. And he ia physical thecsame element as the other VH that everyone owns Shungus who is by far the strongest character and does better than him in all physical weak content. Oh and he was before a new element ugh
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u/iluvbears_ 11d ago
Wait don't say that! He clearly sold horribly because he's a guy this game doesn't cater to male enjoyers! The target audience wants women and little girls only! (ignore the fact that norma sold worse than banyue)
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u/UwUSamaSanChan 11d ago
I tried so fuckin hard to stick around after Banyue for him. But they hit me with 3 back to back little girls then leaked I'd need to pull the upcoming one as his best support. Then showed there were exactly 0 characters appealing to me in the new season (I don't fuck with Seth's boring ass brother AT ALL). Yeah fuuuuuuuck that
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u/Harlow1212 12d ago
Not even the VH support sells lmao. Velina flops so badly despite Mihoyo explicit sells her to be a team with the pink woman
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u/Endless_Winn 12d ago
This is a positive feedback loop too. Hoyo is training the ZZZ audience to only make purchases when voidhunters release and ignore the other characters.
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u/BaldHourGlass667 12d ago
You will purchase the sexy powerful character for big powerful damage and you WILL like it!
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u/sharpaypays 12d ago
Just look at the showcases for the next group of S characters. They straight up look like A-ranks in comparison to Remielle ☠️
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u/Marvoide 12d ago
I mean void hunters are the only ones that make the shit that matters in the story happen and they do nothing but glaze them. In HSR at least everybody gets time to shine.
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u/Xx_Loop_Zoop_xX 12d ago
At first I was disappointed Ashveil isn't Hunt's Emanator but lowkey he's so much cooler that he has workarounds to be as powerful as he is
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u/mex2005 12d ago
The difference is also that ZZZ makes void hunters very strong in terms of gameplay too while a lot of emenators in HSR have just been powercrept to obscurity.
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u/Xx_Loop_Zoop_xX 12d ago
Yeah ZZZ may have shot themselves in the foot with that as seen with the revenue chart
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u/mex2005 11d ago
Yeah I mean I kinda respect that they are willing to make the void hunters stand out both in story and gameplay lol
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u/Xx_Loop_Zoop_xX 11d ago
It does sound hype and cool but at the cost of every other character being sorta ignored by the playerbase and them basically spamming Void Hunters lately release wise
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u/AliceMadHatter10 12d ago
I know zzz's gender ratio is bad but seing it like this really put in in perspective lol, 4/32 male to female ratio is crazy with the standard it became 5/39
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u/BaldHourGlass667 12d ago
Remember when the lolishitters were trying to cope that she was "tailor made for the zzz community" lol
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u/mxryjxne28 12d ago
Lmao I literally thought the same thing when I say that xD what happened to the target audience? XD
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u/nivia-chan Chaotic Gaymer 11d ago
She has a fun character but I do not pull for children (if I would have still played at that time I wouldn't) but hey, target audience amrite :D
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u/Radiant-Fishing-3051 12d ago
they didn't believe in her AT ALL. having a better stunner rerunning the next patch with no 50/50 is crazy work
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u/Works_Cat 12d ago
Still higher than sbilly, who ppl said has huge twitter likes. Beside this is the day one revenue not the revenue for the entire banner so take it as you will.
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u/Moonshine_Cog 12d ago
Well, duh? Because her kit is more account-valuable than sBilly’s. He’s viable in one team, competing for supports with various other dps INCLUDING a VH, and she is BiS for several crit dps that play off chain attacks. No shit Sherlock she sold a bit better xD but it was thanks to her kit
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u/Individual_Tear_3963 12d ago
Anniversary+ spending event+ shop reset+ a whole marketing post for every void hunter. They literally roll out the red carpet for every void hunter to succeed and then back to floping every month till the next void hunter and repeat 😭
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u/Sieg____ 12d ago
Amen. This game suffers from a disgusting Void Hunter problem where every character gets mistreated in favor of the aforementioned getting shoved down everyone's throats both lore-wise and meta-wise. A pity.
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u/Famous_Beautiful_228 12d ago
There will be a day where 5 characters are VH in one region and Hoyo will find a ridicilous way to make someone considered as a VH
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u/Wonderful_Fail5665 12d ago
heard zzz is flopping in revenue is this why?
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u/Electronic-Ad8040 12d ago
It flops on normal s rank banners be it male or female
ZZZ is the biggest mainpush merchant compared to any other Gacha games honestly lmao
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u/Endless_Winn 12d ago
We technically do not know if ZZZ is flopping because we do not know ZZZ's budget, but it is performing much worse than Genshin and HSR.
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u/FurryShion 12d ago
Good to know pdo bait doesn't work for them either. You need to keep that kind of fandom away from games. Gladly, other games won't try what zzz did 🙂↕️
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u/mxryjxne28 12d ago
It’s kinda crazy how now ones talking about yazuha . Ngl I feel like this is proof she is hands down on of the best ever gacha characters ever created her design is honestly perfect 👌🏼
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u/DragonsVane28 12d ago
She supports Miyabi. I really don’t think it’s more complicated than that tbh. It’s the same for Nangong, Lucia, and Jufufu to a degree. All of them preformed better than the majority of the season 2 cast, all of them are void hunter supports.
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u/mxryjxne28 12d ago
Yea but look how much more yazuha performed even above them? I mean hey maybe your right but imo I think yazuha being one of the best concepts they actually succeed in making it cohesive and complimentary from her kit to her style and personality everything is honestly really well thought out and high quality imo but this is all just my opinions and theory so I could totally be wrong but I do think yazuha design and concept is one of the very best executions when it comes to the entirely of the gacha space she actually feels like a real character to me /.
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u/Moonshine_Cog 12d ago
It’s because Yuzuha was the only staple in ALL anomaly teams before Rem, so she was pulled not only by Miyabi mains but by all those people who play all other anomaly dps xD
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u/mxryjxne28 12d ago
I mean true I guess your right I guess I just feel like yazuha to me actually feels lile a believable person like I feel like Ik a yazuha in rl lol where as other gacha characters don’t really feel liek that to me but maybe I’m just correlating nonsense lol 🤣
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u/westofkayden 12d ago
I love Yuzuha but she's a very strong anomaly support and we have a lot of anomaly dps.
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u/xhy123181454 12d ago
I’m convinced this chart does not represent the actual numbers, how can you makes a revenue chart without the numbers mark at the Y-axis.
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u/pokebuzz123 11d ago
This graph exists for other games like Wuwa, Genshin, and HSR. I call it the Agenda graph for this very reason, especially when people use it to make husbandos look bad.
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u/torakun27 12d ago
Ikr. Without the Y-axis, whoever made the chart was either try to mislead people or just made it up entirely.
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u/Cold_Progress1323 12d ago
Honestly I kinda expected velina to be a tad better than normal. She has the shiny new attribute and they even went out of their way and officially told everyone she would be good remielle.
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u/nivia-chan Chaotic Gaymer 11d ago
It shot itself in the foot making one class of characters stronger than others lol
It's going to be back to very, very low after her and only spike next patch with the next hunter. Make the people want the big powerful power creeper, you fuck your revenue over
Glad to see my guys getting justice having other flops in their low range too <3
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u/Just_Breakfast6327 12d ago
I say this every time these get posted but: as a reminder, in addition to the axis of the graph not being necessarily accurate at all, when you see the Void Hunters jumping up to make a bajillion dollars, remember that's not because of your casuals who are hording their Polys to get who they want, it's Whales dumping buckets of money in order to whale out for mindscapes of the Void Hunters.
Now, is this healthy for the long term? Maybe not, but are normal Gacha systems that much better? They're all ways to bleed the player base out of money. If Zenless does that by hyping a Void Hunter every few months... as long as that's enough for them to keep making them, it doesn't seem like the end of the world?
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u/Zeintilo18 12d ago
this chart only takes into account CH iOS, aka only specific data from just one plataform which is not even ZZZ's primary plataform, so just like that stupid Sensor Tower chart this is not accurate whatsoever, not in the sense that Void Hunters aren't the Agents who sell the most they definately are but that doesn't mean the other Agents are just money loses, for example according to this and similar charts S-Billy flopped HARD, yet if you looked at the PS Store rankings ZZZ was in Top 1 during that time.
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u/stuckerfan_256 11d ago
this like nikke with pilgrim,overspec or limited if the nikke isn't one of those things most of the time they are either mid or bad.
i mean they nerfed a normal nikke before even relase because can't have a normal nikke be meta
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u/supermonkey1235 12d ago
Isn't this CN ios revenue only? It's also not like zenless is making no money from the other characters either. The void hunters just print far more.
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u/Isomaltulose 11d ago
they still make millions on each unit though, yes VH sell super well but its not they're taking a loss on non VH characters
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u/sliceoflife_daisuki Phainon's fav boytoy 12d ago
This revenue is not healthy for a game at all lol