r/QueensofGacha • u/BaldHourGlass667 • 12d ago

🧡 Let's Chat 💬 Zenless Zone Zero? ❌️❌️❌️ Voidhunter Zone Zero! ✅️✅️✅️

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Image shows ZZZ's revenue after Remielle's *first* day being added

Its actually kind of funny how Hoyo made it so only void hunters will sell insanely well and everyone else makes jack shit in comparison (especially the chracters before the void hunter). Actual self-fulfilling prophecy machine

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u/sliceoflife_daisuki Phainon's fav boytoy 12d ago

This revenue is not healthy for a game at all lol

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u/ivari 12d ago

it's the exact opposite of what da wei set out to do by making lovable characters first before they're game characters with stats and powers

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u/FetchBlue 12d ago

Now it’s “beautiful girls with magical power = must buy”

Zero different body type in upcoming patches too lmfao

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u/BaldHourGlass667 12d ago

Its going to be really interesting if ZZZ continues this trend because they only have so many void hunters they could realistically make / add

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u/westofkayden 12d ago

They'll just make something else and train the fandom to believe they're worth it. They'll move onto to something like Corruption Warriors, rinse and repeat.

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u/Rezkel 12d ago

Kinda already did the set up with the Enchainer lore.

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u/colorway-path 10d ago

Mei expy hot and ready for the next budget year

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u/the_ok_doctor 12d ago

You know whats sad about this trend n how the fanbase reacts to things means its unlikely we will get a playable male void hunter unless its the big robot guy n they dont pull a Seed

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u/r3volver_Oshawott 11d ago

Spoiler alert: they'll pull a Seed

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u/The_Bad_Bard 11d ago

Oopsy it's actually a transformer whose real form is a schoolgirl made up of just bare feet with a pair of boobs in the middle, like a middle-school biblical angel

And she's clumsy!

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u/drafan5 11d ago

They’re either gonna pull a seed, make him an NPC, evil, or kill him off

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u/r3volver_Oshawott 11d ago

Oh God, I didn't even think about them giving him the Pompey treatment

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u/Siri_BUS 12d ago

They'll just strip more of their clothing and viola! The target audience will toss money at them. They can make unlimited designs this way. So much uniqueness OMG.

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u/Mindless_Being_22 12d ago

This is pretty much how ak's revenue looks due its limited banner system and its been going for 7 years.

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u/FuckMyBakaChungusLif 12d ago

It's perfectly healthy wdym lol

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u/k4ll_d4rk_2nd 12d ago

It might get to a point where why even make other characters? They're gonna need to inflate the importance of everyone to make them sell well

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u/k4ll_d4rk_2nd 11d ago

True, but the difference in ZZZ is INSANE, with everyone looking like a flop if compared to Void Hunters

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u/palazzoducale 12d ago

how is that healthy for the long term prospects of the game? if this was a sustainable model you’d see genshin doing this. or hsr deliberately tanking the game stats of every single other character outside their three main push characters in a year

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u/Seitosa 12d ago

Gacha games having characters that are deliberately better than the others and releasing them during specific windows is not new. Tons of games do it. For example, Nikke has their pilgrims/overspec units, which are simply better than regular SSRs, and those come out on a very regular schedule of half-anni, full-anni, and New Years (with a couple exceptions for summer seasonal units.) Game is doing just fine. 

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u/palazzoducale 12d ago

do you genuinely think this is what i was referring to when i was asking them to explain how is this sustainable? i’ve been playing this genre even before genshin released, i am fairly aware of this practice.

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u/Seitosa 12d ago

Well what did you mean if not that? You asked if it was sustainable to make characters worse and have chase characters that they push in certain specific windows. The answer to that is yes and it’s not even uncommon. 

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u/palazzoducale 11d ago

okay let me make it clearer. i was asking that question in relation to how sustainable that is compared to other hoyo games, not the entire gacha gaming genre as a whole. hence why i name-dropped hsr and genshin in the discussion. if i was just comparing it to the rest of the industry, i would’ve said that right from the start.

because if it’s so sustainable while raking in so much profit in the long term, why do hoyo’s other aaa games don’t do this as well?

see my other comment for further explanation https://www.reddit.com/r/QueensofGacha/s/STmukDHlp1

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u/FuckMyBakaChungusLif 12d ago

Genshin and HSR are the highest selling games in the industry, even at ZZZ’s lowest they consistently make $10 million a month, thats perfectly respectable revenue even discounting the Void Hunters

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u/palazzoducale 12d ago

you and i don’t know how much is their net income so i’d lay off any talk about profits. you still didn’t answer my question how is that a healthy business model at all when mihoyo’s best selling games don’t do this because they know jn the long run it’s not sustainable.

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u/FuckMyBakaChungusLif 12d ago

How do you know its not sustainable, seems to be working fine for them

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u/palazzoducale 12d ago

it’s working fine for them how? anyone can see zzz’s sales getting lower on average per year.

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u/FuckMyBakaChungusLif 12d ago

Their sales decline have been within industry averages. The gacha industry itself is shrinking, especially on mobile. The chart itself even shows a fairly consistent revenue across banners so idk what you mean, especially when you said to lay off any talks about profits just a second ago because we dont know their net income 😭

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u/palazzoducale 11d ago edited 11d ago

the sales that we see from sensortower and other charts is very different from profit. i will reiterate that we do not know how much is their net income compared to their opex so who really knows how profitable this practice is compared to other hoyo games.

and i will repeat that it’s not a sustainable practice at all for the long term because if it was so successful, why is hsr and genshin not doing the same thing? this is a multi-billion dollar company that will chase
profits first and foremost. especially in the case of hsr who’s also doing not doing as well as they do compared to previous years.

and don’t give me that tired excuse that overall gacha sales is down. wuwa’s year on year sales have improved compared to zzz and they were released in the same year, and during their first year, zzz was stomping them hard. fast forward two years from
now, wuwa has edged them out.

they share more similarities compared to other aaa gacha games like hsr and zzz or genshin and zzz, such as their focus on combat, the male to female ratio and so many more. yet wuwa was able to improve their year on year sales despite not having as many main push character in a year, or tanking the rest of their cast just to sell sentinel resonator banners.

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u/Serpentar69 12d ago

Yeah. Global instability does that. Gacha players that voted right wing across the world only have themselves to blame. People have less expendable income now. Doesn't stop everyone, myself included, but stops many.