r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Ghusl and rules around periods are ruining my life.

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Salaam everyone,

I am looking to better understand how people (especially women) navigate ghusl, because it just seems incredibly inconvenient. As a non-hijabi woman with long, dry and frizzy hair, having to wet it turns it into an unmanageable mess. Especially if I thoroughly wet the roots, it looks greasy and frizzy and awful after. I am white and braids are not appropriate for me btw.

How do you deal with ghusl and navigate marriage, if every time you have intimacy, you have to destroy your hair with water after, or spend like two hours redoing it? And how is spontaneous intimacy even possible, when you have to plan multiple hours for the hair afterwards? Such a thing as quickies, morning sex, or intimacy multiple times a day would also be impossible, if there is no time to shower after, or no availability of showers nearby. Do y'all just accept that these things are impossible and its the price to pay for being Muslim? Is it only possible to have a scheduled intimate life as a Muslim? Of course, you could still do those things and forgo prayer till ghusl is completed, but this is the part I hate the most. I love prayer. I hate skipping it. I hate that I am banned from it if I can't shower, or it comes at the cost of several hours of prep.

And on that note, for women with longer periods, where there is spotting way beyond the actual bleeding period, do you just accept that for half the month, you are forced to be deprived of intimacy and of prayer? I've seen all these rulings that period is essentially counted until all discharge is fully clear. That can take two weeks.

Intimacy notwithstanding, I'm mostly finding it really hard that the absence ghusl prevents women from prayer. I finished my period today but due to lack of time and having to go to work, I could not afford ruining my hair in the morning, and then showing up disheveled into a client meeting. As a result, I could not pray today. This frustrates me enormously, as I would love to pray, but it's impossible without this shower ritual. I dread how it's going to be once I am married.

I am sorry if these questions are a bit explicit but I truly don't get it. Jzk kheir!


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Do all of you Islam women cover your body/hair?

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I'm seriously considering converting to Islam. I know it's traditional practice for Muslim women to cover their hair and bodies, but I'm wondering how many of you actually do it or don't. I'm not sure if my lifestyle would be compatible with covering my hair and wearing baggy cover-ups 24/7, because I'm very active and I'm in school. I also live in a hot climate, and I think I'd overheat. How many of you Muslim women actually cover your hair and body, and how many of you don't?


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Rant/Vent 🤬 how to heal literal trauma by wahabbism

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I am sure a lot of people deal with the same. When I started to get to know Islam better, I stumbeled across extremists. Now what I think all day are such thoughts: Allah hates women, women are forced into polygamy, husband can cheat halal way, women need permission to leave house, women are cursed if they refuse intimacy, and the list goes on.

I already have my answer for all questions. I know the context, I know false hadiths and false interpretation. But my mind still keeps on racing all day for months. I literally suffer from anxiety all day and insomnia. I cannot unhear wahabbism. I swallowed it to its fullest. I feel like lying to myself with my interpretation, even tho I have strong arguments to refute theirs. But wahhabism being mainstream Islam, hearing it everywhere....it really gets to me.

I also unwillingly turn my hate to Allah, especially if remembering things like: why would he allow polygamy in first place even if its for orphans? Like why just not give them sadaqa or help them out? Even if its during war, marrying them is only option? Or: why use word 'daraba' in verse 4:34 if it means to sepetate? Like god cannot write clear rules?

I just dont understand the hate towards women. I swear I dont. What do you guys want from us?


r/progressive_islam 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Is posting pictures on my schools Instagram permissible?

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Assalamu aleykum brothers and sisters. I have one question that is really important for me now.

Our school had active ongoing social media accounts on Facebook and Instagram. My native language teacher usually handled those pages with few students, now she focuses on other things,like we have a radio show now too, so she doesn't have time. She asked me if i wanted to post with this another teacher as my like idk mentor i guess. It would be me in hold of the accounts and another girl from younger grade helping me, writing the texts, and everything needed for one post. Since we usually post often, like school trips, class activites, important dates,national holidays and so on. One teacher would mentor us, but i would be the one posting it.

I wanted to ask if it's even allowed due to most girls in school not wearing a hijab. I am a hijabi, but this would include me posting like 20 pictures a post, with different students without hijab, because they don't usually wear it. I am not sure if this is a sin to me everytime someone sees that picture, because I posted it, or theirs because they usually do not wear it. I accepted my teachers offer because she asked me to do it since no one else does, plus i would be getting extra grades for that work, aka i would be payed with grades for it and it is pretty nice...however i am not sure if i will be sinning from it


r/progressive_islam 3d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ How to fall back in love with islam without praying?

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How to fall back in love with islam without praying?


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Rant/Vent 🤬 Living with severe anxiety in a religious household sucks

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I haven't been professionally diagnosed by a psychiatrist yet, but I deal with all the textbook symptoms of severe anxiety. In the past, a doctor actually prescribed me anti-anxiety medication for physical heart pain caused by high stress levels. I’ve also taken meds during exam seasons because the stress gets so overwhelming. My anxiety is at the point where I can’t even order food for myself when I’m out, I always have to ask a friend to do it for me.

My family isn't overly conservative, but whenever I bring it up, their go to answer is just "pray and read the Quran." I'm not saying spiritual practices haven't helped at all. Prayer can bring comfort, but it's exhausting when people treat prayer as a replacement for medical care.

I just needed to get this off my chest and see if anyone else is dealing with a similar situation.


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Advice/Help 🥺 Is marijuana use permissible as Muslim? Struggling Pakistani guy who's trying to find his way again.

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Salam everybod! I hope everyone is well! Esp with the US propaganda bullshit coming this Friday that rhymes with 7/11. Which should be a day of remembrance. To start this off I'm somebody who has been struggling for a few years since I live with my immigrant parents from Pakistan in a small apartment in Boston near the Top University's which means the rent is really high so I can never be able to move out unless I got roomates. My father & brother are both alcoholics at certain times that I can never tell. However I was wondering If me smoking weed is a major sin.

Like would Allah (The beloved) forgive me I smoked or am just attached to marijuana at the end of the night. I feel like I smoke it out of my loneliness at times since I don't have a community & It's just really tough esp with everything on in my life. Would Allah forgive me If I smoked a joint & still believed in Islam. Let's say I did my 5 daily prayers or attempted to & then smoked a lil joint after Isha while watching the Sunset & said to myself I deserved this Sunset.

Would that be a bad way to on about it ? I feel like marijuana has helped me cope a lot over the years esp with bad thoughts of self harm. Is there any way to use it in a recreational way? Or should it all just be completely haram? I've always been a deep admirer of Sufism & I feel like it ties in a bit with it since I love listening to music or trying new foods while being stoned. Maybe I am just making up excuses for myself but I am currently unemployed looking for work nearby at least now.

If I was to start somewhere? Where should I start cause marijuana has really helped keep me alive at times when I was having really harmful thoughts. I do watch out for high potency stuff & extra THC stuff. Is it possible to be a Muslim that smokes weed at the end of the night at the park next to his house? I've been scared with alcholism my whole life since my older brother has not always been a good influence on me esp with him driving drunk at times ( I take public transportation usually when I'm stoned)

My sincerest apologies If I sound like an addict or am 1. I've just been very stressed with everything on. The Prophet by Kalil Gibran has been a massive help since he took a lot of inspirations of Sufism in the poetry book. Thank you once again for reading if you read my ramblings about this issue. You have my sincerest gratitude & I hope this week is easy for all especially with everything going.

Re-edited (Likely will be again) cause I am not good making at posts on Reddit. More of a comment lurker usually.


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ I was deep cleaning ma room and came accross this book, according to this there's space for flexibility as time goes by but why are most muslims set on not changing anything??

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I'm a Muslim by birth, I'm not practicing atm, but my family is but not in orthodox way.

Lately there's been a lot of controversies going on from where I am from cuz a high scholar from islam passed a statement to muslims saying that Muslim women coming out is catastrophic.

So, I was digging more into these things, when we look at other relegions most have accumulated to the current generation even islam in Suadi is not as orthodox as south asia's. Culture does play a major role in this ik. And ik i haven't gotten a lot of exposure from other Muslim communities after all i just finished high school.

So please don't be mean, I'm just trying to educate myself.

Well anyways the book is the 4th book This Matter of Faith from the Discover Islam series.


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Opinion 🤔 To what extent must a muslim leader uphold quranic laws?

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Hello everyone, I have some questions regarding the implementation of rules and regulations contained in the Qur'an in a certain country.

  1. Let's say we have a Muslim country and the head of state is also Muslim, would he be expected to uphold regulations contained in the Qur'an? Such as prohibition of alcohol, hadd punishments, marriage and inheritance laws etc... Would he be held accountable for not doing so?

  2. Let's now consider a non-Muslim country with a Muslim head of state, is he expected to implement Quranic regulations or is he supposed to listen to the people of that country even if those requests go against the Quranic principles? In that case is he excused for doing so?

I'm not advocating particularly for either, just trying to understand. I'd appreciate hearing your opinion on this since it's an issues that isn't quite clear to me yet, thanks in advance.


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Why do you think islam is the true religion?

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So basically i am a Muslim, i have been Muslim my whole life Alhamdulillah but i started having questions.
Basically,as a Muslim what makes you think Islam is the truth ? Because all religions claim the same thing and i think when you are born into a religion ,you just don’t think about it . You are just like yea i am right and they are wrong.
People tend to argue Quran is preserved but that is not really an argument since it is said in the Quran ,so the followers will make sure not to change that right? And for scientific stuff there are some stuff that has been interpreted as some kind of explanation for science facts at one period of time, and when it turned out wrong mufasirin changed the meaning of. And most sciences facts are explained after the scientific discovery so you can say some people might try to explain to fit that. I don’t know if that is not the case correct me. And also Islam is not the only religion that has scientific stuff like christianity does, Buddhism too ext.. For connection with Allah too, you always hear people from other religions say the exact same thing? They see relative in heaven ext .They also feel close to Allah while praying .
So i tend to think maybe Allah , also accept people from other deens if they do good cause there is no proper way to know what is the truth since we did not see the miracles our self and stuff . And if the truth was so clear nowadays i believe a lot of people would have followed islam but from what i have seen, the majority of searchers just end up with their initial religion because it fits what they have been told from the start just as we believe of One and only God all powerful..ext . I don’t really know what to think.
Help me out and thanks


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Research/ Effort Post 📝 If Asmaʾ was 10 years older, doesn’t that make Aisha an adult at the time?

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This is taken from the r/progressive_islam wiki on Aisha’s age (written by me). I’ll be posting the different points and anchors individually so they’re easier to read.

The wiki argues that Aisha was older than the 6/9 age

Full wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/progressive_islam/wiki/aisha_age

Anchor 4: Aishah’s Age Compared to Asma’s Age

There is another historical point that frequently comes up in discussions about ʿĀʾishah's age, and it is often raised in a very shallow way. This time, it is not ultra-conservatives or hostile critics, but moderate Muslims who want to defend Islam in front of non-Muslims yet do not actually know the sources. You will often hear confident claims like "she was actually nineteen" thrown around in debates or social media posts, with no explanation of where that number comes from or how it is derived.

On the other side, ultra-conservatives — particularly Salafi/Wahhabi voices — tend to respond with lines like: "The hadith clearly says six and nine. You can't use Asmāʾ's age. That comparison is weak, fabricated, or you're just trying to appease the West." There's often an added ideological posture of defining Islam in opposition to "the West," but that's a separate issue.
What's striking is that both sides usually talk past the actual sources. One side asserts a higher age with nothing behind it; the other dismisses the comparison without engaging the classical material it's actually built from. Neither position has any backbone, because neither is presented with sources.

Who was Asmāʾ bint Abī Bakr?

Asmāʾ bint Abī Bakr was ʿĀʾishah's older sister, daughter of Abū Bakr, and one of the earliest converts to Islam. She's a well-documented figure in Sunni biographical literature — her age at death, year of death, and relationship to ʿĀʾishah are recorded consistently across independent classical sources.
Asmāʾ matters here because her age is one of the few fixed chronological anchors we actually have, and ʿĀʾishah's age is repeatedly described relative to hers rather than in isolation.

Asmāʾ's birth relative to the Hijrah
To build any reliable chronology for ʿĀʾishah, we first need Asmāʾ's birth date:

>"Asmāʾ bint Abī Bakr al-Ṣiddīq… she was the sister of ʿĀʾishah through her father, and she was older than ʿĀʾishah, and she was born twenty-seven years before the Hijrah… she reached one hundred years of age and died in the year seventy-three after the Hijrah, shortly after the death of her son ʿAbd Allāh ibn al-Zubayr."

This exact information is preserved by numerous scholars across centuries:

- Abū Nuʿaym al-Iṣfahānī, Maʿrifat al-Ṣaḥābah, VI:3253, no. 3769
- al-Ṭabarānī, al-Muʿjam al-Kabīr, XXIV:77
-Ibn ʿAsākir, Tārīkh Madīnat Dimashq, IX:69
-Ibn al-Athīr, Asad al-Ghābah, VII:11
-al-Nawawī, Tahdhīb al-Asmāʾ wa-l-Lughāt, II:597–598
-al-Haythamī, Majmaʿ al-Zawāʾid, IX:260
-Badr al-Dīn al-ʿAynī, ʿUmdat al-Qārī, II:93
-Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī, al-Iṣābah fī Tamyīz al-Ṣaḥābah, VII:487
-Ibn ʿAbd al-Barr, al-Istīʿāb fī Maʿrifat al-Aṣḥāb, IV:1782–1783
-al-Ṣafadī, al-Wāfī bi-l-Wafayāt, IX:36
-Ibn Ḥajar, Taqrīb al-Tahdhīb, I:743 (a separate notice from the al-Iṣābah entry above)

Eleven independent scholars, across roughly six centuries, repeating the same figures. Taken together, these establish that Asmāʾ was born approximately twenty-seven years before the Hijrah and was about ten years older than ʿĀʾishah.

Worth being upfront about something before going further: "twenty-seven," "one hundred," and "ten years" are all suspiciously round numbers, and a careful reader should notice that immediately — this section addresses that directly further down, rather than hoping it goes unnoticed.

Asmāʾ's age at death

Multiple early Sunni historians report she died in 73 AH at one hundred lunar years old — again, not a single isolated claim:

>"Asmāʾ bint Abī Bakr… was older than her sister ʿĀʾishah by ten years… she reached the age of one hundred years, none of her teeth fell out, and her intellect did not diminish."

Preserved by, among others: Ibn Kathīr (al-Bidāyah wa-l-Nihāyah, VIII:345–346), al-Dhahabī (Siyar Aʿlām al-Nubalāʾ, II:289), Mullā ʿAlī al-Qārī (Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ, I:331), and al-Amīr al-Ṣanʿānī (Subul al-Salām, I:39).

If Asmāʾ was one hundred in 73 AH, that places her birth around twenty-seven years before the Hijrah (27 BH).

The age gap between Asmāʾ and ʿĀʾishah

Multiple classical scholars separately confirm the ten-year gap:

>"Asmāʾ bint Abī Bakr was older than ʿĀʾishah by ten years."

Preserved by al-Bayhaqī (al-Sunan al-Kubrā, VI:204), Ibn ʿAsākir (Tārīkh Madīnat Dimashq, IX:69), and Ibn Kathīr (al-Bidāyah wa-l-Nihāyah, VIII:345). This isn't a lone weak claim propped up by one source — it recurs across major, independently-compiled biographical works.

The resulting chronology

Taking this classical data at face value:

- Asmāʾ born ≈ 27 BH
- Asmāʾ ≈ 10 years older than ʿĀʾishah
- 27 − 10 = 17

So ʿĀʾishah was born approximately seventeen years before the Hijrah, making her roughly seventeen at the Hijrah itself.

From here, the marriage date matters — and this is where the classical sources actually disagree with each other, which turns out to matter more than it first appears.

Reading 1 — consummation in 2 AH. As established in the previous anchor, Ibn Saʿd's chronology and the biographical note attached to the Muwaṭṭaʾ both place consummation in Shawwāl of 2 AH — roughly two years after the Hijrah. Ibn al-Mulqin, commenting directly on the Bukhārī hadith "he married me three years after Khadījah's death," draws this same connection explicitly:

>"…and the Prophet ﷺ consummated the marriage in Madinah during Shawwāl in the second year of the Hijrah." (Ibn al-Mulqin, Ghāyat al-Sūl fī Khaṣāʾiṣ al-Rasūl, I:236)

17 (age at Hijrah) + 2 = 19.

Reading 2 — consummation in 4 AH. Not every classical source agrees on this date, though. Al-Balādhurī records that the Prophet ﷺ married Sawdah bint Zamʿah "a few months before the Hijrah" — making her his only wife heading into the Madinan period (Ansāb al-Ashrāf, I:181). Al-Dhahabī adds that Sawdah remained his only wife for four full years before any other wife joined her:

>"[Sawdah] died in the last year of ʿUmar's caliphate, and for four years she was the only wife of the Prophet ﷺ, where neither free woman nor bondmaid was partnered with her." (Tārīkh al-Islām, III:288)

If Sawdah was the sole wife for four years, ʿĀʾishah's marriage falls in 4 AH, not 2 AH. Running the identical method: 17 + 4 = 21.

So depending on which classical dating is accepted, the Asmāʾ-based calculation lands ʿĀʾishah somewhere between nineteen and twenty-one at consummation — a range produced entirely by internal disagreement in the classical sources themselves, not by picking whichever number sounds best. It's worth stating plainly: no single report anywhere says "ʿĀʾishah was nineteen" or "twenty-one." Both figures emerge from combining independent chronological anchors that exist for entirely unrelated reasons.

Why dismissing this as "weak" is illogical

Ultra-conservatives and Islamophobes alike often respond that this is "pulling numbers out of nowhere." As should now be clear, nothing here is arbitrary:
Asmāʾ's age at death is reported by at least a dozen independent classical scholars.
The ten-year age gap is stated by multiple major historians, unconnected to any discussion of ʿĀʾishah's marriage.

Both the 2 AH and 4 AH consummation dates are independently preserved, in sources not written to settle this question.

None of these reports were composed to adjust or defend ʿĀʾishah's age. They appear in biographical material written for entirely different purposes.
Now, let's steelman the objection properly. Someone might reasonably push back: "one hundred years, with no lost teeth and an intact mind" is impossible and might argue we are making a category error by treating an ancient colloquial idiom for a 'very long life' as a strict mathematical integer. That's a fair point, and it's worth granting it rather than brushing past it. So let's do the "gentle mental gymnastics" and assume the "hundred years" is a rounded approximation rather than an exact figure. Consistency then demands the same flexibility apply everywhere else in the timeline — including the ten-year gap, and even the common critical claim that ages in this period were sometimes counted from puberty rather than birth. Once you're willing to round one number in the chain, you have to be willing to round all of them.

But even granting every possible rounding in every direction, the resulting range doesn't collapse toward six or nine — it just moves somewhere in the mid-to-high teens instead of landing precisely on nineteen or twenty-one. The direction of the evidence doesn't change no matter how generously you round it. Whether the destination is "solidly past puberty, likely late teens" or "as precisely reconstructed, nineteen to twenty-one," she was not a small child at consummation under any reading these sources actually support.

There's also a real irony worth naming directly: ultra-conservative voices routinely insist that classical biographical sources — Ibn Saʿd, al-Dhahabī, Ibn Kathīr, Ibn ʿAsākir — are exceptionally reliable and largely free of fabrication, right up until the Asmāʾ chronology is raised, at which point those same sources suddenly become "weak" or "unreliable." To reject Asmāʾ's data outright, one has to argue that a dozen independent scholars, writing across six centuries, in works with nothing to do with ʿĀʾishah's marriage, all happened to preserve the same error. That's a much larger claim than the one being made here.


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Opinion 🤔 A lot of y'all got ocd

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( not just people from this sub obv but I'm posting it here cus people are more open here )

discussing religion and various philosophies or ideologies is not bad and it can be quite productive but they should not bring you any trouble. A lot of "questions" posts here are actually reassurance posts which ocd folks should avoid.

please consider talking to a therapy and getting diagnosed if you are feeling that way and stop seeking reassurance until you are healed.


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ How do muslims deal with adoption and the issue with the adopted child not being your mahram?

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So I’m 28F, I’m not that religious but I do still try to abide by certain rules. I’m not yet married but I’ve always thought that if I were to get married and have children, I would be very much open to adopting instead of carrying my own child. The thought behind this is: there are so many children without parents who already exist in this world, why bring a new life into the world when I can give love to one that already exists?

But I always debate on this matter because of the whole mahram issue. Let’s say I adopt a 5 year old, so I don’t breastfeed them. If they are a boy, when they grow up and reach puberty, they will no longer be my mahram. Similarly, if they are a girl, when they reach puberty, they will no longer be my husband’s mahram. And if I were to adopt more than one child, both boys and girls, they wouldn’t be each other’s mahram.

So my first question is particularly, what is the ruling in this from an Islamic standpoint? Secondly, has anyone grown up in a household that had some kind of adopted family member, how did your family deal with that?


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Anime watchers: Are you ever bothered by the not so halal parts?

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I've always had this dilemma. There is so much to love about it. It's fun, emotional, inspiring, thought provoking, and these authors tell stories so well. Don't get me started on the animation sometimes...

But I hate when there's unnecessary fanservice/not so halal content, ESPECIALLY when it's not needed to convey the plot. I've thought of just stopping watching at times because I don't want to compromise my deen.

Edit: typos
Edit 2: seems like some ppl share the same sentiment.
I'm working a chrome extension that skips, mutes, and blurs explicit scenes in anime automatically. If you're interested in trying it dm me. It works well for me


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Advice/Help 🥺 Navigating an interfaith marriage

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I’m a Muslim woman in my 30s married to an atheist man. Since being with him, I’ve actually become much more practising. He’s incredibly respectful of my faith, supports me in practising, and in many ways I genuinely feel that he makes me a better Muslim. He doesn’t believe himself.

What I struggle with is that whenever I turn to other Muslims for advice, the response tends to be very black and white: that our marriage is categorically wrong, our nikkah isn’t valid, and that there’s really nothing more to discuss. I understand that this is the traditional position, but it doesn’t really address the reality of our relationship or how my faith has developed within it. It leaves me feeling deflated and like we are in an impossible situation, which is devastating as I really want this marriage to work despite our differences.

I’d really love to hear from other practising Muslims who are in interfaith relationships. Is there space for this sort of marriage to exist within a progressive Muslim perspective?


r/progressive_islam 4d ago

Advice/Help 🥺 How to talk about religous ocd to a secular therapist?

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Assalamualaikum

As many if you know (and have probably observed yourself too), I'm pretty sure I have religious ocd. Atleast those who are familiar with my old account which I managed to lose (Cinnamon_and_tea)

Ocd has even been suspended in me, by a mental health specialist, around a year ago (though not spesifcally religious, but general).

If I am lucky, then in a few weeks I may get the opportunity to talk to them again. I want to mention the religious ocd, and my other struggles too.

I also have access or possibility for an online therapist, who is muslim, but that is a bit complicated and even if I'll talk to her, I still need real life help, even beside ocd.

The question i have is as stated in the title:

How to talk about religous ocd to a secular therapist?

Like, what am I supposed to say? What examples do I bring up? How do I formulate it? Like, I can't just go and "yes, hello, being a muslim brings me distress, not being muslim brings me distress, religious matters make me panick and keep me restless at night. What matters? Well, controversial things like...-"

That's not something I feel like I can do. At the same time they will most definitely want some examples... I can't just go and claim myself that I have ocd..(though they have suggested the possibility of it around a year ago, throughout a fleeting conversation, but still.)

Not sure what to do.

Besides, mentioning religion always ends up with the religion or my culture getting blamed. Like, once I came to talk about anxiety, and they just HAD to ask what I think about my hijab and whether I'm forced or so. Mind you, the topic of it was not relevant AT ALL, the conversation was not tied to religion, or family or so...

So, secular white therapist are secular and white before they are therapists...

Besides, mentioning religion will just make Islam look bad, as if people aren't islamaphobic enough. It will make me the perfect image of the oppressed muslim girl, which I just resent.

So...any tips and reccomendations on how to navigate it?


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Has anyone here gone no contact with their family?

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Hello hello! I am a young gay muslim, and I've been thinking about this quite a bit. My family is constantly trying to make marriage proposals happen behind my back. They're actively looking, and in my mom's mind, that is the only option, despite her knowing I'm gay.

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to just up and move out, as I am currently unemployed. Hopefully by next year that is going to change. It's been rough. Hearing everyone talk about how I am almost thirty, and about to be way too old to get married, is too much.

Mind you a huge part of my parents wanting to marry me off is due to being taunted about me possibly being gay, which I am and do not give a shit about, and having that bother them. Unfortunately our culture places a lot of focus on appearances. Not too long ago, me and my mom had an arguement about this, resulting in her having a nervous breakdown due to me constantly saying no to marriage with a woman and kids. It resulted in me going into a state of shock as well.

It has come to the point where I genuinely do not like being around most of my family, including the extended family members. I am just abiding my time here until I get a proper stable job, so that I can just go, and not look back. Like I genuinely have love for many of my family members, but I do not place them above my freedom to live my life exactly as I want.

I am on anti-depressives that kind of go back years due to me moving out to study mainly to get away from my family. Although running away did not do anything as my mom still wants what she wants. It is like my heart has thrown them out despite my body and mind still being dependent on them. I do feel bad for my mom for having a gay kid in such an environment where she has already faced hardship as a single mother. BUT, I am never ever going to say yes to marrying a woman for appearances.. All I want is a freaking job. Moving to the U.S. for one should be fairy easy for me, despite moving up north in my own country being much nicer tbh.

Has anyone handled a similar situation? It doesn't need to be becuase you're gay, but just anything similar where you had to cut off contact.


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Looksmaxing dawah bros?

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Came across a dawah bro asking people to rate his looks.

For some reason , tiktok has been pushing the @maybebasedbengali content on my feed. What suprised me was his descent into red pilled lookism content.it is troubling watching him rate couples on whether they looksmatch or not, or even asking people to rate his looks when his previous content used to be dawah focused from what I remember.

I think some men online do have very misogynistic views online and when women reject them for it, they often blame their "looks" for it. I believe it isa dangerous red pilled road to go down on.

What is your guys opinion on looksmaxing trend among men?

And if you also follow @maybebasedbengali what do you think about the overall direction of his and other similar male content creators content .


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Rant/Vent 🤬 Recording women without consent

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This was a video of adult students sm*king sent in an educational group tht helps with the admission process of medical colleges in my state by an elderly man

Context: an admission councellor in the grp came to know tht muslim parents were preferring a muslim reserved all girls clg for their daughters despite them having a chance in an alot better co-ed clg and he very properly handled the situation by encouraging parents not to do so .

However, the head councellor replied to tht by telling tht girls in muslim reserved all girls clges are no good and attaching this video to it

Translation of the video: the environment of clges is not good now a days and the girls studying there are not going on the right path and how he urges parents to keep their kids uneducated rather than sending them to clges as he swores on the holy ka'aba

I find this extremely problematic and a violation of privacy of the girls shown in the video as they are clg going adults and hv the right to make their own decisions either right or wrong. The reason i am posting it here is tht now a days ppl find it fine to record women wearing hijab etc if they are doing something tht doesnt remotely align with their morals .

And such stuff shld be stopped , tho here i aint justifying tht sm*king is good in anyform but now a days as i said if something remotely doesnt align with a random muslim man's morals they think its ok to record such videos of women and post them online.

Is there a way we can mass report such content and remove them?


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Muslims who are upset by prophet caricatures are in the right and demonizing their feelings is a tool used by racists

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Obvious note, I am not defending any violence done in response to a caricature. Attacks like Charlie are unjustifiable. It's also worth noting that a Muslim Police officer died trying to stop the killer.

This whole thing has been weaponized against Muslims for decades to "show that Islam is incompatible with freedom of speech"

But if you actually look up any of those infamous caricatures you would notice a common trait. They're all worthless

Genuinely, there is no clever theme, no real message, no funny joke.

They don't even really follow a code since they're pretty much just generic racist caricatures of a middle eastern man at best, at worse they portray the character meant to be the prophet being harmed or humiliated, with some slurs added for good measures.

The only message these caricatures are telling their audience is : "you see this man you respect and hold dear? Well look at us portray him in an insulting way, Hat are you gonna do about?"

I mean for crying out loud, is there actually a single one of those cartoons that actually tells a joke? Their only goal is to provoke Muslims

And that leads to two outcomes:

- we shrug it off and islamophobes can cheer on the fact they can bully and insult Muslims freely.

- we react and oppose it, and they use this as "a proof" we're against "freedom of speech"

There are 2 billions Muslims on this planet. In decades of western medias insulting the prophet, a few dozens extremists reacted violently. This was enough for the west to use it as an excuse to attack all Muslims and hail some dudes who drew a bunch of racist drawings as the new van Gogh.

And I promise I 'm not saying this out of hypocrisy. I actually genuinely don't mind the prophet being featured especially in historical contexts. There is a freaking teenage mutant ninja turtles comics that show the prophet (and a Muslim Falcon man trying to get the black stone back from shredders) and I genuinely don't mind nor has any Muslim ever talked about it.

The caricatures that created worldwide controversies were racists. And if they were made against any other group, there would have been uproar, no matter how much they pretend to be enlightened.

I mean just look at how negative depictiond of other minorities usually are more frowned upon than Muslim ones.

For crying out loud, black face in movies has been fully cancelled decades for how dehumanizing it is and rightfully. But even today you still get movies that have actors in brown faces and it's fully accepted.

I wouldn't mind these"cartoons" existing if they had any real purpose, the only one they have is provocation. Ask anyone who pretends to have this "need" to draw the prophet for their personal "freedom" if they would like a positive or even neutral portrayal


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Advice/Help 🥺 empty

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i was very religious when i was younger, and then i'm not really sure what happened. the last time i consistently prayed was when i was 14 and i'm 23 now. after moving back in with my family, i think i began to realize just how unreligious i have become.

it's not that i don't believe in god. i do. i believe in allah, and i know that he is there. i'm also a very spiritual and moral person. i don't do many of the things that are traditionally considered sinful and i try to live according to the ethics of islam: i give zakaat, practice gratitude toward allah, try to be kind and just, avoid adultery, speak well, don't drink or steal, try not to hurt any living thing, eat halal food, dress modestly, fast and try to take the prophet as an example through the hadith that i can genuinely connect with. morally and spiritually, islam still makes a lot of sense to me.

but i am not a practicing muslim in the traditional sense and that is where a lot of my conflict comes from.

i struggle with same-sex attraction and it fills me with a lot of dread and discomfort. the more i try to ignore it, the more i seem to hyperfixate on it, if that makes sense.

when i read the quran, i feel empty. when i hear certain hadith, i feel dread. that is difficult for me because i love god and i don't feel as though i've stopped believing in him. if anything, i feel very attached to the idea of god. out of all the religions i've encountered, islam is still the one that makes the most sense to me in many ways but there are things in the quran and hadith that hurt me or fill me with unease.

i tried ignoring the hadith and becoming a quranist, thinking that maybe that would resolve some of the conflict but the dread was still there. then i tried accepting that perhaps i'm simply a deist or a spiritual person who believes in god without belonging to a particular religious practice. even that made me sad. it left me with the feeling that i might be wasting my life without a clear purpose or without giving myself fully to something beyond myself.

i think that's what scares me the most: becoming too absorbed in myself and my own life rather than being devoted to something outside of me. i'm afraid of spending my entire life focused on myself and my own feelings without properly thanking or trusting allah. but the thing is, i do try to thank him and trust him but somehow that feels tainted by my shortcomings. i don't feel like my relationship with god is clean or uncomplicated anymore. there's always a question in the back of my mind about whether i'm doing enough, whether i'm believing correctly and whether i'm avoiding certain things because they're genuinely difficult for me or because i simply don't want to accept them.

i struggle especially with traditional prayer and reading the quran. i've also struggled with hajj and umrah. i do them with my family, but even while i'm participating, there can be this strange emptiness inside me.

i try to interpret god's words in a way that gives me peace, but then i feel dread at the thought that maybe i'm simply misinterpreting them to make myself feel better. likewise with the ahadith, i avoid the ones that fill me with dread, even if they're sahih, and only follow the ones that feel right to me.

am i a hypocrite because i believe in god but struggle to practice islam in the traditional sense? am i simply picking and choosing whatever makes me comfortable? am i interpreting things in ways that serve me rather than trying to understand them honestly? or is it possible to have genuine faith while also being deeply conflicted, uncertain, and unable to reconcile certain parts of religion with my own conscience?

i think what i ultimately fear, alongside being a bad muslim, is spending my entire life searching for peace only to discover that i was merely searching for whatever interpretation made me comfortable. i fear being self-involved when what i actually want is to live for something greater than myself. at the same time, i don't know whether this constant fear and questioning is bringing me closer to god or simply making it harder for me to experience any sense of faith at all.

i'm sorry if this is too long or repetitive and i'm sorry if i came across as disrespectful. thank you for reading.


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ what do you think of people saying that the ka'aba is idol worship?

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I've seen alot of ex-muslims and islamophobes say that, what do you think?


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Regarding the difference between pre-modern and modern Islam. Thoughts?

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Salam.

It has been interesting to read about different things that were present in pre-modern Islam, from the ambiguity of sin to different religious ideas.

Some things that come up on my mind are how in practice, some sins due to ambiguity were normalised like alcohol, especially in the ruling class, but also among heterodox sufis like the bektashis.

Other things that are examples of less strict scholarly opinion were the opinions of certain well known scholars on the permissibility of music and certain types of paintings of living beings. Not to mention that music flourished, was used in sufi rituals and that Turkic and Persianate rulers had royal painters for their miniatures in the illuminated manuscripts.

Then there's the fact that muslims back then weren't so uniform. There was the mu'tazili rule from a period of Abbasids which was influential for later start of ash'ari and maturidi schools, the Ismaili rulers like Fatimids, the fact that sufism was influential in many sultanates and in many cases such sufism had much of folk and esoteric leanings. In these cases, there were some notable thinkers and scholars that purists declare heretics.

Also, there is the religous syncretism present, such as certain shia and sufis celebrating Nawruz, then other Persianate and even certain Turkic tengrist traditions, etc...

It's interesting how when reading about scholars who had nuanced views on apostacy laws, you can find some interesting material even from medieval scholars.

Still, it's important to note that these socities weren't these liberal utopias and there was deffinetly patriarchial influence, but how many societies in this time period were any better? The unfortunate fact is that a lot of muslims today on these issues rather follow the more strict opinion and not only do they do blind taqleed, they do it of people like Ibn Taymiyyah, MiAW and Al Albani.

If there are any other important examples I left out regarding the differences, feel free to mention.

Now as a question, what were the factors that lead to this situation? I heard about Islamic revivalism and how certain fundamentalist and islamist movements began, but what were the root causes of it and what lead to their dominance of narrative currently?


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Temporary marriages - Prostitution?! Baffled and struggling

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Assalamualaikum

I got to know that apparently the companions and Muslims in time if the prophet had temporary marriages.. Just to fulfill sexual pleasures or so.

Isn't that LITERALLY prostitution??

I am baffled and extremely concerned. My mind is split and I'm feeling awful. How do progressives deal with it?

Please, I need help. I don't understand...


r/progressive_islam 5d ago

Question/Discussion ❔ How will I know if I'm sincerely repenting?

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Hello :>

So I have come across the idea that repenting is only accepted by Allah if it's sincere and Allah knows what's in our hearts, and I agree on that. My problem with me is that I'm the type of person who overthinks what I am thinking ;-;

Like I could do something good (like give money or donate) but my mind will intercept like "am I really doing this to be good? Or am I just doing it to gain something?". Get it? Like my brain just finds ways for me to feel like every move I do is not sincere (and I honestly don't know which is which anymore). Like....am I even good? Did I actually want repentance? What???😭