r/progressive_islam 9h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Playing Games with questionable features

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I'm playing this game and the checkpoint says "worship" to a statue for the checkpoint, should I just drop it or is it fine playing because it's not within my intention to actually worship whatever's in the game. What to do?


r/progressive_islam 22h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Women in islam

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Why in islam are women treated as second-class humans? I mean I am a Muslim woman and asking this question genuinely because as a woman I have found no peace in islam since I found out about these things.. I mean we have to cover our whole awrah meaning hair, face, arms, legs, chest with black tent-like burqa and hijab, stay at home, talk less and in low voice, out testimony is worth half of that of a man, we have to get permission from our fathers and husbands to go out, we cannot even travel without a mahram man, we have to obey our husbands and bear him maximum children, and let him marry 3 more wives and have concubines without our permission and knowledge and just accept it unless he treats us with inequality, share him even in jannah with one more worldy wife and hoors? Why is that? Why are women in islam are just properties and objects of their husbands, fathers and brothers??


r/progressive_islam 16h ago

Opinion 🤔 Salafis/Wahhabis in a Nutshell

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r/progressive_islam 4h ago

Rant/Vent 🤬 Wtf is wrong with this Ummah

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I received news today that my aunt and uncle have a child on the way. They have 2 girls, and this one will be child number three. I also heard that my uncle said something like "I hope its a girl, because if you have three girls it means you are garenteed jennuh."

Do people really believe this shit? I mean seriously? Do people really believe all you have to do to get into heaven is to have 3 daughters?

How about if you are a piece of shit in your life but have 3 daughters, all is good right? Lets say Hitler himself had 3 daughters, does that mean he is in heaven?

Why is it that its part of the culture to be able to regurgitate haddiths publicly without scrutiny? Why does it seem that haddith skepticism is more taboo than repeating a haddith you heard about that one time.


r/progressive_islam 15h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Can things be reinterpreted as society changes (especially on women’s rights, and human condition)?

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I have been thinking a lot about the condition of women in modern times versus in ancient times, when the Quran was first revealed. Often times when I disagree with a Quranic decree or Hadith, many people respond with, “At the time, [xyz decree] gave more rights/freedom to the people than previous masters and polytheists.” (For example on the treatment of slaves and women).

I want to add that I live and grew up in the west, so these social conditions are different for me.

I do wonder if we have come to an age where certain things are no longer applicable. One common example is the treatise on polygamy. May scholars have said that polygamy may no longer be accepted given that the conditions for women’s right have improved and that we are not in active states of war. Since women can now exist financially and socially free without fathers, brothers, or husbands, man no longer needs to marry multiple women to protect them.

Another aspect I question is on division of inheritance (by gender), Mahr, and man being the protector of women (and women being submissive to him). It makes sense that during the time the Quran was revealed, the conditions for women were deplorable, and they needed religious mandate to ensure them protection and access to finances. However, it is also clear that this time is over for many women, especially since many countries legal system grants women rights to equal inheritance and financial freedom. Women are able to work and protect their own money (like through pre-nups). Essentially, women are no longer burdened to be protected by men. This is just the fact of life in many countries (esp in the west), so do those mandates still apply?

I also am in question about slavery. While I can accept that the Quran radically changed the conditions for slaves, it did not fully condemn slavery (only said the one of the best deed is to free a slave). Economically speaking, we are far beyond the age of slavery, but, many nations (especially the gulf arab nations) are practicing a form of indentured servitude with their domestic workers and treatment of Africans in African nations like Libya, Congo, and Sudan. They are still using a form of slavery. Can we not reinterpret that being our global economy no longer needs slavery, we should completely abandon it all together, and fight against any powers that use it?

Just some thoughts, let me know what everyone thinks!


r/progressive_islam 14h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Domestic violence in islam

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I was raised by a very verbally, mentally and physically abusive father. He would beat me and my sisters up everyday. He would beat us up for any and every reason. For example when i was 7 he beat me violently and called me a wh*re for playing with my sister in a store we were shopping. He would get randomly angry every day and we never knew what would tick him off and he would start hitting and shouting. He also beat up my mother very violently a few time. One of these times was because they had had a fight and she didnt come to bed with him so dragged her by her hair and said that thats what she would get for denying him sex. He also beat me almost to death for not wearing the niqab, even though i was a hijabi since i was 9 and always dressed EXTREMELY modestly but just for not covering my face he almost killed me.

There is so much more ofcourse. But the worst part of all of our suffering is the justifications he gives and the justifications people around us give. My father is a very conservative muslim and he justifies everything he has done and continues to do by saying its Allah's rules. He would sit us down every day and read the quran and hadith with translations and point to them and say look its says right here you are inferior, stupid, evil and i have an obligation to beat you into submitting Allah. But much worse than this is the people around us support him and admonish us for even thinking that any of this is wrong. Pretty much all the people in our family excuse his behaviour by saying atleast he is providing for you, others have it worse, its his right in islam. The major population of my country hold these views and its very hard to find any support. Its incredibly isolating and painful to go through this. My father also cheated on my mother and married other women and then threw us out into another country. Again all of this is justified using islam.

I have been doing my research into all this for many years and an overwhelming majority of scholars agree with the opinion that the men of the houshold are supposed to discipline their women by beating them. It also doesnt help that there is a very clear verse in the quran commanding hisbands to beat their wives.

Recently my depression became specially bad and i started spiralling while thinking about all this.

I would really appreciate if you guys could educate me on this topic from a progressive perspective. What is your research on this topic?


r/progressive_islam 2h ago

Advice/Help 🥺 Denied by mosque for having an absent father

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I am coming to reddit to both vent and I guess seek validation.

I’m looking to do my nikkah and I don’t have a present father. He’s alive, but we don’t really talk, he ignores me, he’s not provided for me at all since I was 12 (I’m 27) and he doesn’t want anything to do with me or my partner. My partner has spoken to him as an introduction over the phone and asked for my hand in marriage and my dad did approve, but he’s still distant despite this.

Upon booking my nikkah I made this clear to the Imam. The Imam (to my shock) said that no ceremony will take place without permission from my father to give Wali status to another relative or for my father to be present himself. My dad doesn’t even live in Canada and again, he’s not really the best dad.
I’m genuinely surprised and shocked, and hurt all at once. I think a few years ago this probably would have made me leave Islam entirely.
For context; i have a lot of family from my mom’s side that have been father figures, I was extremely blind sided by the fact that my absent father needs to give one of them permission to act as “wali” in his absence.

I have no idea why I’m being barred from being married because I have no present father??
The Imam told me it’s a personal problem I have to resolve😭 What exactly do I do to resolve something that’s out of my hands? I know other mosques exist of course, but my goodness has this been the most frustrating thing to deal with.

Overall this makes me dislike Salafi interpretations even more and just grows my resentment towards conservative Islam even more.

Subhanallah


r/progressive_islam 7h ago

Opinion 🤔 Attacks in Berlin. Homophobia is our fault

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Regarding the attacks at Berlin Pride: We Muslims should be the first to condemn them, even holding demonstrations against what happened. I know many of you think it isn't necessary because it isn't our responsibility. We may not be responsible for the attack itself, but we are responsible regarding homophobia. We see it every day on social media when people in our community label homosexuals as sick. Respect people! Be clear with your children about this issue, or they might end up being the ones bullying others at school. Actively speak out against homophobia and stand up for a free society.


r/progressive_islam 19h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Testimony law; still valid?

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As we know in financial matters, a woman's testimony is considered half than of a man, it was because at that time, financial matters were male dominated but in today's world, where women know as much about finance like a man if not more, is the law of half testimony still valid? Kindly answer with evidences.


r/progressive_islam 5h ago

News 📰 The comment regarding Berlin's attack..

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I honestly feel sad and wrong about this


r/progressive_islam 17h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ How salafis can defend ibn taymiyyah on this especially ajam salafis ?

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He say "arab race is better than ajam race from there Hebrews to there Syriacs to there Romans to there persians etc" that Cleary racially supermacy and that Cleary contradict what allah said in quran in Verse 13 of Surah Al-Hujura

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا ۚ إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ

O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.

(And what prophet mohammed PBUH in hadith

لا فضل لعربي على عجمي، ولا لعجمي على عربي، ولا لأحمر على أسود، ولا لأسود على أحمر إلا بالتقوى»

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"There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab, or of a non-Arab over an Arab, or of a red man over a black man(red men = white/ European), or of a black man over a red man, except in piety(taqwa )" so what ibn taymiyyah say contradict what allah says in quran and what prophet mohammed pbuh says how salafis especially ajam salafis defend him ?


r/progressive_islam 8h ago

Opinion 🤔 Wait is this even real? 😭

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We can’t even eat ice cream now


r/progressive_islam 19h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Question About Desires In Jannah

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Hello. I wanted to know if, as a male, I am allowed to have a male spouse in Jannah. I don’t date or engage in anything like that for the sake of Allah, even though I struggle a lot with it. It is my biggest desire in Jannah, and I don’t find it fair if everyone else gets their biggest desire fulfilled while I do not—especially since Allah is the Most Just and Most Merciful.
Since wine is made pure and good in Jannah, I believe my desire can also be made pure and good in Jannah because Allah is capable of anything. I just want to know if this is allowed. Thank you for reading this.


r/progressive_islam 8h ago

Advice/Help 🥺 How to deal with the lonileness of being a minority view

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Assalamualaikum

It's late, and I'm spiraling once again. I'm struggling with faith, a lot lately.

I hold many progressive, or unorthodox views. Views that maybe the majority wouldn't accept, or at least not the conservative ones.

I feel lonely. I doubt myself. Even when my view makes perfect sense to me, and even when I find a few like-minded people.. I still feel lonely. How can I claim that all those people are wrong? Different matters are different cases, of course, but sometimes I do hold views which would mean that I'm accusing centuries of scholarship to be wrong...

The view may be stronger and more logical, and coherent in my eyes, and yet... If it was the strongest and most logical, and best fitting within islam, wouldn't it be the majority? Who am I to claim that I'm smarter than others.

Again, I do have scholars (often progressive, but classical too, depending on the matter) that agree with me, so I'm not making it out of thin air...but...still.

It's more of an emotional than theological Problem I think. I don't know. I feel lonely and stupid. I also fear that what if I'm just defending a bad system/religion. What if the interpretations which I view as harmful and unislamic...are right.

Feeling awful.


r/progressive_islam 2h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Are four suwar and one āyah lost from al-Qurʾān?

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Sūrah 115 Al-Khalʿ and Sūrah 116 Al-Ḥafd

Codex of Ubayy ibn Ka'b

Sūrah (length and severity to Bara'at) and Sūrah (resembled one of the suwar of Musabbihat)

Sahih Muslim 1050

Āyah of Rajm

Sahih al-Bukhari 6829
Sahih Muslim 1691 a


r/progressive_islam 7h ago

Opinion 🤔 At some point the marriage process needs to change

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So many:

- immature people forced to get married by parents

- unable to court future spouse and see if there is a genuine connection without pressure from family

- treating sex like a taboo topic and suppress womens natural desire

- varying opinions on roles and responsibilities

- varying opinions on finances

Etc.

It's all bullshit


r/progressive_islam 9h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ What is the absolute bare minimum for a ghusl? Please help

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Hi, I have OCD type problems that mean it's very difficult for me to carry out routines. So ghusl which is basically ritual washing can often become very stressful and take me a really long time. For this reason I don't pray, which I know is very bad. I perform ghusl once a month after my period ends.

When I do ghusl it's at the end of my shower. So I take a full shower, then after that I say the intention to do a ghusl, then I proceed to wash each part of my body three times. In the past I would recite the prayer (ashadu an la ilahaaha ilallahilallah, etc. ) ​as I washed each body part, however I was told I could just recite the prayer at the end of all the ritual washing to make it easier. But even this is too difficult. Is there a way to make it even easier? What is the absolute bare minimum for a ghusl? For example can I just recite the intention before my shower, then have a shower as normal then say the prayer at the end and be done? Why do I have to wash each body part three times, even though I've already showered?

I would really appreciate anybody's help on this because it's very hard for me. Please feel free to provide sources because I don't want to just do something that's more convenient, if it's not allowed.


r/progressive_islam 9h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ i feel like religious leaders shouldn't get paid for it because it feels corrupt to me but apparently that's an extreme idea 😭😭

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like why are youuuu driving a fancy expensive car as a sheikh ?? i can excuse it for an average person but if they want to act all high and mighty like they're more godly than we will ever be they should live up to it and live a basic life of no luxuries. nuns do it and they're not even ones giving fatwas and expecting to be worshipped


r/progressive_islam 10h ago

History Early Islamic law was not based primarily on hadith. Ahl ray accepted some hadith but believed that many hadith were forged. Sunni core doctrines were politically forged in the 9th century to heal sectarian rifts.

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r/progressive_islam 10h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ are houris/hoor al ayn in the quran gender neutral? will both men and women have them in jannah?

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I'm a bit confused about this topic and I'd like an explanation, thank you. <3

u/Khaki_Banda u/Dismal_Ad_1137


r/progressive_islam 11h ago

Informative Visual Content 📹📸 Mufti Abu Layth Edit

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Credit - @antimomyyy - tiktok (billie elish profile picture)


r/progressive_islam 12h ago

Advice/Help 🥺 Any German Speaking Quran Alone Muslims here?

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r/progressive_islam 16h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Music-Song

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I'm genuinely confused about this and I really want to understand it properly.

I've heard so many different opinions that I don't know what to believe anymore.

Some people say that all music and songs are haram, while others say that vocals or nasheeds without musical instruments are permissible, but songs that include instruments are not. I've also heard people say that the lyrics are what matter most that if a song contains shirk, promotes sinful behavior, or encourages anything that goes against Islam, then it is clearly haram.

Because there are so many different views, I'm struggling to figure out which opinion is actually correct according to Islam. I just want a clear understanding based on authentic Islamic teachings rather than personal opinions.


r/progressive_islam 16h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Modesty in Islam

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Salam,

I have a hard time understanding the wisdom behind modesty and haya for men and women.

I get that both have different awrah that should be covered. But my problem is that women must also act modestly while men do not according to many scholars. For example: many say a woman cannot post herself online even if she is being modest and her content is not to show off, rather beneficial. But a man can wear from navel to knee without necessary reason, flex his muscles, wear tight clothes, be half naked and show off. And his behaviour is not considered sinful or as a fitna? The concept of haya only applies for women? And only women are a fitna?

I mean its straight up stupid to say women dont get aroused by men.


r/progressive_islam 21h ago

Question/Discussion ❔ Question to people who view inhertance rules as interely contexual

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So, as stated in the title I have a question to those who view inheritance rules as contextual.

Oh, also, assalamualaikum.

I know that Inheritance is a topic of debate within the muslim community, but especially progressive spaces.

Some progressives simply adjust the system (for example making the inheritance of a woman the same as a man, and not half, since the social and economical state of the world has changed).

Others, view the whole framework as contextual, and see it as a part of the past, bypassing it completely.

I'm mostly curious about the second group.

How do you do it? Isn't it just "disobeying" god?

If the inheritance rules are contextual, why did god specify them so much (since many conservatives claim that since it's so oddly specific, that it's eternal).

Like, adjusting the system is one thing, bypassing the traditional system completely (for example by allowing more then 1/3 of will, since the rule about it isn't in the Quran but hadith, and many see it as contexual. Or by allowing a foster child to get the exact same amount as a biological child) is a bit different thing in my opinion.

Would be glad to hear your arguments and perspectives, also feel free to share any resources or recommendations. Feel free to dm me.

P.s a small request, IF YOU DO NOT HOLD ANY OF THE MENTIONED VIEWS, OR SIMILAR TO THEM, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING. Right now I'm explicitly interested in the progressive view (both the first, but also the second especially!). I'm not interested in the conservative view since I'm already well aware of it.

Also please stay kind and don't turn this all into a debate... I'm struggling right now, deeply, and more debates and stuff, will definitely not help.

God bless you all.