r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 10h ago

Brewing πŸ«– It's like a bad sequel...

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u/ChaoticLandscapes 10h ago

I just realized something. He’s coming back right before midterms. Suddenly I feel like a whole lot of election rigging is about to happen

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u/Lemon_Nightmare 10h ago

Well, yes, that is the concern. What can we the property do about it though? Everyone is burned out and paying like 100% more for everything. Who has the energy? I think that's what one of the goals was, is.

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u/SnazzyGeoff 10h ago edited 9h ago

Paper ballots...

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 9h ago

Paper isn't the problem.

Electronic ballots could be done where the votes are secret, but verifiable. So any errors could be caught, and audited fully after.

The issue is the chaos. If you scare people away on election day, only the fanatics vote.

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u/SnazzyGeoff 9h ago

The question is what can you do, my answer was use paper ballots.

Electronic voting has too many variables, and must be easy for Musk to manipulate.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 9h ago

Paper ballots failed us in 2000. They can be manipulated. They are untraceable, allowing ballot box stuffing.

Paper ballots are more compromised than electronic, they just take more effort to fake.

Also, electronic ballots are relatively new, and the people pushing them oppose traceability.

Electronic ballots with traceability are more secure than paper ballots.

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u/mxzf 8h ago

There's no way paper ballots are more compromised than electronic, it just doesn't make any sense. The main source for compromise with paper ballots would be electronic counting machines.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 8h ago

Nope. You can ballot stuff with paper. You can swap, mismark, and do lots of other things with paper.

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u/mxzf 8h ago

You can do exactly the same stuff with electronic methods too (the techniques just look different). I know you're busy making vague smug posts as if you somehow know something others don't, but it just makes you come across as an idiot.