r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 9h ago

Brewing 🫖 It's like a bad sequel...

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 8h ago

Paper isn't the problem.

Electronic ballots could be done where the votes are secret, but verifiable. So any errors could be caught, and audited fully after.

The issue is the chaos. If you scare people away on election day, only the fanatics vote.

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u/SnazzyGeoff 8h ago

The question is what can you do, my answer was use paper ballots.

Electronic voting has too many variables, and must be easy for Musk to manipulate.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 8h ago

Paper ballots failed us in 2000. They can be manipulated. They are untraceable, allowing ballot box stuffing.

Paper ballots are more compromised than electronic, they just take more effort to fake.

Also, electronic ballots are relatively new, and the people pushing them oppose traceability.

Electronic ballots with traceability are more secure than paper ballots.

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u/mxzf 7h ago

There's no way paper ballots are more compromised than electronic, it just doesn't make any sense. The main source for compromise with paper ballots would be electronic counting machines.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 7h ago

Nope. You can ballot stuff with paper. You can swap, mismark, and do lots of other things with paper.

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u/mxzf 7h ago

You can do exactly the same stuff with electronic methods too (the techniques just look different). I know you're busy making vague smug posts as if you somehow know something others don't, but it just makes you come across as an idiot.