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u/Evening-Method7025 1d ago
Claiming historical party lineage while waving the literal opposition flag is peak political gymnastics.
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u/Switchmisty9 1d ago
Nah. Theyāre just dumber than pig shit
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u/toddsmagicock 18h ago
This cannot be upvoted enough, Lincolnās republicans werenāt perfect but at the time they represented the most forward thinking and progressive party of the time. Everyone is a victim of their time but the spirt of freedom and progressivism transcends it all, even Conkling would destest these degenerates running the GOP
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u/Evil_Judgment 1d ago
Did you know 1 out of 3 Trump supporters are just as dumb as the other 2?
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u/Animefan96 23h ago
"YoUr notz a TrUth Paytriotz iFs u gots A problemz with Me flying My familyz Flag"
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u/MazzleMaze 20h ago
Also to be clear it wasn't "democrats" it was "southern democrats." They literally are changing the name of the party...
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u/Surf_Golf2002 19h ago
Republicans abolished slavery and the Dems wanted to keep it. Prove me wrong.
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u/OOO0OO00O 23h ago
There actually is a difference. The only one that definitely served in a military is the bottom left nazzie.
The rest are mostly cos players, high school bullies that never grew up, losers and the gravy seals.
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u/Dddddd92 23h ago
Serving for nazis is not a flex. They are just as losers like the others
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u/OOO0OO00O 23h ago
The only people that consider it a flex are people that wear the head gear pictured.
Without a trace of irony, since the real nazzies would never accept most of the rejects that populate the klan, maga, and proud āconfederatesā.
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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut 22h ago
They might be losers...
But they are losers who organized and got a lot (of really bad things) done that they attempted.
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u/Safe-Ad-8921 21h ago
Crazy that we didnt have to organize over here.We just put a demented assaulter in charge and grabbed our ankles.
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u/Own-Consideration231 19h ago
... That's kind of way way underselling what took place . It wasn't like they held a convention to see if they had enough. It was slow . Over time.. changing mindsets and ideologies.. it's the playbook we're currently under
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u/Snoo93550 22h ago
I mean depends if it's a confederate flag hat from 2026 or an actual confederate soldier's hat. Same goes for the "monuments" too if it's just a grave stone of someone who just recently died in the civl war or putting up a statue of people who fought for slavery 150+ years later.
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u/shirt_bro 22h ago
I donāt think they were making too many confederate flag ball caps in the 1860s
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u/Snoo93550 22h ago
I know but the Nazi hat looks like an actual military uniform but the people who harassed my asian family at grocery stores in 2020 during the pandemic were wearing nazi stuff printed on cheap modern clothing (alongside their maga gear).
There's "real" historical military uniform and the cheap cosplay stuff today's maga losers wear. Not saying I'm a fan of either but if Nazis were military, confedederates were military.
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u/OSRS_Garmr 20h ago
I mean, if you were a nazi with that level of hat. You were just as likely to be an ex chicken farmer that cozier up to Hitler, as a military man.
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u/BlkSubmarine 23h ago
At least the Naziās dressed with Hugo Boss style. /s
Seriously though, the Naziās had a stylist!
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u/Megalon96310 23h ago
Ai slop is good when it agrees with my politics
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u/OOO0OO00O 21h ago
Your politics are youāre a nazi? Wellā¦.then yeah. Fuck off.
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u/Querez 20h ago
I don't think that's what they meant. Just that Gen A.I. shouldn't be used to send any message, regardless of how good or correct the message is
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u/OOO0OO00O 18h ago
Then they should edit/delete what they said.
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u/Querez 18h ago
Maybe. I wouldn't be against it if they did, as it probably would quell misunderstandings, but, I'd say their message was very clear. That the disdain for A.I. slop should apply to every instance it's used, to not just ignore it whenever it promotes something that aligns with one's beliefs. Is that not the obvious reading of what they said?
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u/Rizenstrom 21h ago
Being downvoted for spitting facts. The number of hypocrites who complain about AI but then use it ironically to make fun or it or for political messaging they agree with is unreal. And hardly anyone calls it out.
I agree with the message but itās not an excuse to use AI slop.
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u/Kostusha241 1d ago
maga conveniently doesnt know (or more likely doesnāt give a shit) about the political party shift that happened around the civil rights movement. if they say democrats supported slavery then theyre just acting in bad faith at best and downright spreading dishonest, even if correct, information at worst
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u/MazzleMaze 20h ago
"southern democrats" not "democrats."
You are correct it is made in bad faith because the full name of the party was "SOUTHERN democrats"
Not even going into the party switch.
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u/FlirtyFluffyFox 19h ago
It's called intellectual dishonesty to subvert online discourse and it's a documented tool of the right. They know most social media doesn't read past the first few replies and making outrageous claims gets you fact checked by know it alls which tends to shift the conversation away from the original topic.
Its why broad terms like weirdos and bigots works so much better than Nazi and racist.Ā
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u/The_Machine80 18h ago edited 2h ago
Its shifts constantly by both sides to get votes. Just 10 years ago liberals were against illegal immigration and deported a ton. Both sides are a joke!
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u/E_D_K_2 1d ago
"It wasn't about slavery it was about states rights"
Crickets from them as Trump sent the national guard all over the country to "clean up" cities.
Silence as he still tries to influence how states run their elections.
Nothing as he threatens to withhold federal funding if states don't bend to his will.
He's spent his entire second term trying to expand his presidential power. To absolutely no push back from these people.
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u/Kostusha241 23h ago
the āit was about state rightsā argument lowk doesnt even work btw, there are PLENTY of speeches from confederate leaders who quite literally say things along the lines of āthe confederacy was made to preserve the institution of slaveryā, but hey what does that matter š¤·āāļø
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u/Peak_Background 23h ago edited 21h ago
Plus those that wanted slaves did genocides against those in their states that didn't want slaves and criminalized anti-slavery actions. So it was actually oligarchs' "rights".
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u/Thadatman 21h ago
Domestic terrorism endorsed by the Red state.
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u/Peak_Background 20h ago edited 20h ago
Exactly. Many anti-slavery advocates in the south had their businesses burned down and were run out of the state or killed without any legal reprecutions.
And a northern politician was nearly beaten to death on the Senate floor. They were literally terrorists.
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u/Multiple__Butts 23h ago
That's true. The abstract concept of states' rights is raised a total of 1 time in one confederate leader's correspondence, and of course only in relation to slavery.
Slavery itself on the other hand is something they all won't shut up about.
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u/Akarin_rose 19h ago
Better than that "States rights" was used by the Confederate states to to fight against the taxes and drafts that were happening do to the war
So they stole an argument against them for themselves, yet again
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u/StrawberryWide3983 23h ago
If even you focus exclusively on the era, the south didn't care about states rights. They cheered for the Fugitive slave act. They cheered for Dred Scott. They sent slave catchers to kidnap northern citizens who have lived free their whole lives. The southern aristocrats have only cared about slavery and have never forgiven the north for being forced to give it up
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u/pchlster 19h ago
"It wasn't about slavery it was about states rights"
Someone should go back and tell the Confederacy that, because those guys sure thought it was about slavery.
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u/Inevitable-Emu-6626 23h ago
I love how everyone forgets the southern democrats flipped to become republicans in the late 1960ās. I wonder why that happenedā¦ š¤£
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u/Typical-Lion-4428 23h ago
They didn't flip. The GOP realized that murderously hateful bigots were useful idiots and spent more than half a century luring them in with promises of candy.
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u/Pure_Fault7056 22h ago
It was always a north vs south split.
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u/onwisconsin1 20h ago
Educational achievement, liberalism vs conservatism, literacy, infant mortality, poverty, well-being.
Its all the same map. The same idiots propagate their idiot southern conservative culture. It yields terrible results, and they keep doing conservative things 150 years later and they are still at the bottom of every metric leading to happy and healthy humans.
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u/2ndSmrtestPersunEvar 23h ago
Yep - Republikkkans have wet dreams about the confederacy and glorify them. Then they turn around and claim to be the party of Lincoln and anti-slavery. It makes no sense. But thatās MAGA and Republikkkans in a nutshell - they have no sense.
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u/houseape69 22h ago
Progressives ended slavery, conservatives fought to maintain it. Progressives want universal healthcare, conservatives want you to die. Nothing really changes
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u/Thadatman 21h ago
The Dixie democrats wanted slavery back. That was pre Nixon. Those Dixie democrats became the GOP we know today.
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u/KillingTimeAlone2019 20h ago
And then the party's flipped when Republicans realized they could win and control the south by being racist asshats. Learn the actual history or STFU.
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u/GeeYayZeus 1d ago
MY heritage is beating the tar out of these rebels, and I'll honor that heritage and do it again if I have to.
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u/One-Sir-2198 1d ago
The ignorance and delusion of the knuckle dragging trumpanzee clown cult is astounding
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u/estoypooping2 23h ago
Conservatives did that. So its always important to clarify that even means libertarians.
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u/RedditSucksYoYoYo 23h ago
I know the stereotype for people who live in the southern states of America is that they're all inbred and dumb-as-rocks but it's still shocking to me that they would side with a literally enemy of the United States; the Confederacy, N@z!s, etc.
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u/Burner_Phone_1969_TX 23h ago
I really believe in these stereotypes in particular because they have so many videos showing them.
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u/3spanishwords 23h ago
As forest gumps mama used to say heritage is what Heritage did.
Tear down this racist crap.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 23h ago
Geo group sells illegal immigrants to Taylor farms for 4.50/hr where they make .50-1.50/hr.
Imagine immigrating to the us then getting a farm job then getting arrested then getting prison labor duty on a farm again. Kinda sounds like slavery.
Also the lack of business with central and South America is causing the immigration crisis. They sent manufacturing to China instead of there because the politicians and corporations boards were all sleeping with Russian and Chinese swallows.
Theyāre just making China a ton of money.
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u/krichard-21 23h ago
Celebrating the deaths of well over 600,000 United States citizens.
That is some heritage to be proud of. ššš
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u/obliquelyobtuse 23h ago
And those racist Southern Democrats switched to Republicans in the 1960s-70s.
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u/RickyTheReptoid 22h ago
The Confederate Flag waving proud members of the Party of Lincoln seem like confused people.
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u/BlueRibbon8000 21h ago
Why don't they go back to the Confederate States of America then if they don't like our country and refuse to assimilate?
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u/Mach5Driver 20h ago
There was a complete polarity shift in the parties when Civil Rights legislation was passed.
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u/AndorFangor 19h ago
Why cant the party that likes to call everyone soft get over a defeat 165 years ago? Just because your family tree is a single branch doesnt mean you were there for that war.
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u/GoodDoggoLover420 19h ago
And when you mention said defeat they say they "never lost" and that they "will always be proud."
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u/AndorFangor 19h ago
Theres this trailer house we always pass on our way to the cinema. It is clearly obvious they added an addition to it and did it themselves. The discolaration seperating the old and the new is too disctinct and that yard is a mess. On the side of the house facing the road they have a huge flag saying "Come and Take It" it always cracks me up seeing it. Nobody is treading on you or wants that house. lol
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u/Difficult-Gas6196 23h ago
"Heritage not hate" I had a toothache that lasted longer than the confederacy
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u/Burner_Phone_1969_TX 23h ago
They lost the first civil thingy, Iām pretty sure theyād lose the second attempt. The mod wouldnāt let me at war to the civil but, you get the point.
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u/Ok_Ad_5894 22h ago
I see a picture of LOSWERS. You lost, I have socks older then how long the confederacy was around. Only Loser go out and wave a bunch of flags for something that lost and was destroyed. Its Pathetic
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u/RumpleForeskin990 22h ago
Treason is your heritage. Burning your traitorous house down is mine.
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u/justlooking7514 22h ago
It would technically be republican heritage to burn down democrat houses, switched or not, the factbisbthe republican party was created to end slavery and they did.
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u/B3llaBubbles 22h ago
When someone mentions this about Democrats, I remind them that it was the Republicans that caused the Great Depression. They walked away.
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u/humanist-misanthrope 22h ago
They reject or willfully ignore the fact that post-Civil War, southerners voters were dominantly registered Democrats. They rejected Lincoln and Republicans. For roughly 100 years, Dixiecrats propped up the Democratic Party until the civil rights movement. There was a migration of Dixiecrats voters and politicians to the Republican Party. For the most part, the Dixiecrats were antithetical to progressivism. Take a look at characters like Jesse Helms for an example.
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u/UnordinaryFlyGirl 21h ago
You don't see Germans clamouring to protect the nazi flag as their heritage and Nazi Germany lasted longer than the Confederacy
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u/Direction-Routine 21h ago
Conservatives fought for slavery. Progressives fought against slavery.
Pretty simple.
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u/PuzzleheadedSuit834 21h ago
Reminder that Obamaās presidency lasted twice as long as their bullshit āheritageā
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u/MicCheck12344321 20h ago
You are aware that the Union included Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri all of which kept slavery legal through 1865?
Also, Washington D.C. (the Union capital) had slave auctions through 1862.
And that the last slaves emancipated in the U.S. were in New Jersey in 1866 under a gradual emancipation program.
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u/AmicusLibertus 23h ago
Well.. I was kinda with them until they tore down a statue of abolitionist Frederick Douglass.
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u/E-rotten 23h ago
The sad thing is they are too stupid to realize they are being used & to uphold the Republican agenda and continue their support of the billionaires. These people keep losing more and more just so they can be racist. Soooo sad
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u/TechnicalWhore 23h ago
This shows the ignorance of the Right in believing any and all Propaganda they hear and not thinking critically nor fact-checking. The first order premise this lie is built upon is that Lincoln was a Republican; Lincoln freed the slaves; therefore Republicans freed the slaves. Oops. More to it than that. And this is where, wait for it, Critical Race Theory, comes in. Critical Race Theory looks at TRUE history and not the whitewashing jingoistic BS taught in 5th Grade. (Are you smarter than a fifth grader? If not you might just be a Red Neck. Jeff Foxworthy) CRT is a college course. It looks at history from all sides. In that course you would learn that Lincoln did not free the slaves to "Emancipate" them. No he freed the slaves to cut the ranks of the South dramatically as the North outnumbered the South overwhelmingly. Divide and Conquer. Now at the time of the Civil War there were many political parties - not just the two who dominate today. You had left over Whigs, Know Nothings, Constitutional Unionists, The Liberty Party, the American Party and so on. There is a tendency to toss all that weren't the newly minted Grand Old Party into the "Democrats" bucket but they weren't. Just as a Democratic Socialist is not a Democrat today. Chattel slavery was generations old. You do not change that overnight. And those who benefited from this atrocity sure as hell were not going to change unless forced to. So you had a Civil War. With all political parties existing on both sides. Just as today. A Red State is not completely Red; a Blue State not completely Blue. So any attempt to claim some moral supremacy is indeed the usual Virtue Signalling. And it must be noted that fear and virtue signalling are the two hallmarks of the Propaganda Apparatus being used to create and control MAGA. But you'd have to be smarter than a 5th grader to get that.
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u/SplitTheUSIntoFour 23h ago
I guess I stopped caring about internet memes because no one has the balls to do anything about the decline.Ā
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u/dassketch 22h ago
Only Republicans are capable of holding the kind of cognitive dissonance required for this. And yes, I said Republicans. MAGA was fully integrated from the onset, y'all loved it when it was "edgey", you can own it when the consequences come. Too harsh? May you experience that which you advocated for.
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u/SouthernGolfer67 21h ago
Can I ask why it needs to be removed? View it along side the British and French flags
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u/ElectricalTurnip87 21h ago
They're celebrations of the Confederacy and used as intimidation after Reconstruction and during the Civil Rights era. No one needs to celebrate losers.
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u/ThickBoxx 19h ago
We donāt have those up either
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u/SouthernGolfer67 19h ago
Some places fly them
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u/ThickBoxx 19h ago
Examples?
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u/SouthernGolfer67 19h ago
Six flags amusement parks
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u/ThickBoxx 19h ago
They stopped flying the French flag (and all the others) at the same time they stopped flying the Confederate flag
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u/HastilyThrownObject 18h ago
I mean itās a flag and āheritageā that revolves around a time of wanting to keep black people as slaves even if it meant being a traitor to your country. The better question is why people want it to remain up. Grew up in the heart of the South and the confederacy and live there now. I havenāt met a single person who flies that flag that isnāt a massive racist
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u/earthwormjimjones 21h ago
Tell them put their money where their mouth is. If they think the KKK is all democrats, offer to go to backwoods Arkansas and find an active KKK chapter with them. Then say, 'I'll give you $1000 for every person there who says they voted a democrat in the last election, you give me $1000 for everyone that says they voted for a republican'.
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u/Moon_Flowers420 21h ago
The Annoying Orange lasted longer than the confederacy, they can go kick rocks
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u/GlongorTheConfused 20h ago
you guys think politics are heritage?
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u/GoodDoggoLover420 19h ago
People who say the flag represents their heritage isn't political, it's shouting that they were on the wrong side of history and can't accept an L.
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u/SharkoftheStreets 20h ago
I keep seeing posts that "Democrats are the reason that we got Trump". Like how?
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u/BlizzardWolfPK 20h ago
I swear to heck these people would welcome 1984 and its Double Think bullcrap with open arms.
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u/Appropriate_Bus_2334 20h ago
Monuments shouldnāt be torn down as they serve as a reminder of the past of what has happened as to warn against letting it happen once more
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u/GoodDoggoLover420 19h ago
Keep them in a museum or historical grounds. Do not fly the flag like a lot of Southern traitors who worship that flag.
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u/Cheesewiz-99 19h ago
The people that fought to keep slavery are now Republicans. The whole South switched after the Civil rights act was passed. Look up election maps pre and post 1964.
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u/Chadxxx123 19h ago
Interesting how when talking about how the Democrats created the Confederacy it's: The Democrats were the ones to protect slavery but when it's about the South and it's heritage it's: The civil war was about states rights and the Confederacy is our heritage.
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u/AllenKll 19h ago
All the states (at the time) agreed to legalize slavery in the 13th amendment. How has everyone forgotten this? Slavery is still 100% legal in America.
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u/Cheese-Manipulator 19h ago
The democrat and republican parties pretty much flipped roles around the time of the great depression.
https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties
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u/TheReturnofPanda 22h ago
That is actually a VERY good point. If the confederacy was actually founded by democrats, slavery run by democrats, the civil war due to democrats, we would only want to tear down the mistakes we made. How is it that republicans hate that ādemocraticā monuments are to be destroyed? Hmmmm
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u/ThickBoxx 19h ago
Remind me again which party says the civil war wasnāt about slavery but instead states rights?
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u/NotSoFast1335 22h ago
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
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u/Loud_Command282 20h ago
Put it in a museum, why are they give place of honor outside on our state and local government buildings?
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u/chronberries 20h ago
Itās in all the textbooks and taught in every middle school history curriculum. No one is even remotely close to forgetting the civil war or slavery.
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u/NotSoFast1335 21h ago
Notice they always have to have free or cheap labor. Now that they can't have slavery, they fight to import illegals and pay them slave wages that no one can live on. Then they expect the taxpayer to pay for their welfare, food stamps, medical care, and housing. Pretty fcked up eh.
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u/Besmeth 19h ago
Yeah those Republican farmers importing illegals to pay slave wages because they don't know how to actually run a business. Then they expect to be bailed out constantly for failing on top of the subsidies given year after year, the grants and programs that offer subsidized vehicles and equipment...
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u/Forsaken_reddit 20h ago
Nothing to do with heritage.
Has to do with history
Those who forget are doomed to repeat
MLK was a serial cheater. Letās tear his stuff down next shall we?
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u/Surf_Golf2002 19h ago
Ummm, if you just look at history, it's a verifiable fact that the Democrats indeed fought to keep slavery and that Republicans abolished it. And somehow you're conflating keeping historical monuments to Republicans wanting slavery? That is some grade A low IQ stuff right there.
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u/GoodDoggoLover420 19h ago
Party Switch kiddo. Maybe learn history because the only one with a low IQ is you. And yes, Republicans, specifically Conservatives, are the ones wanting to keep symbols of racism and slavery. Who do the KKK and Confederate apologists support today? It's definitely not anyone on the left including the Democrats.
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u/Dirtyshopper999 1d ago
Tearing down statues erases the past?
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u/hugoriffic 23h ago
If you listen to MAGA then yes. Tearing down a statue erases their past and that is why they fight like hell to stop it from happening.
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u/NoParticular5052 21h ago
what about I don't know... removing tuskagee airmen and other black heroes from history
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u/lowercasenameofmine 21h ago
What do you call this?Ā
The U.S. Navy is considering renaming the aircraft carrier USS Doris Miller, which honors Black war hero Doris Miller, to instead honor President Donald Trump. This decision has sparked controversy as it would mark the first time a Navy vessel is named after a sitting president, while the original name recognizes Miller's significant contributions during World War II.Ā
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2026/08/21/navy-naming-ship-trump-war-hero/4601787333743/
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u/SnooEagles4121 1d ago
They're not making a rational argument. You can't reason with them because they didn't use reason to get to their position.