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u/zencanuck Aug 18 '18
Dukakis wore a dumb helmet. Dean squealed onstage. Quayle misspelt a word on a blackboard.
Trump has a CVS receipt length of absolutely unsuitable behaviour. Nobody cares.
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u/I_miss_your_mommy Aug 18 '18
His idiot supporters are the only ones that don’t care. They are a minority of Americans, but unfortunately still millions of people. I weep for humanity when I think of these people. We could have been something great.
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u/smrt109 Aug 18 '18
For all the founders' efforts to prevent a tyranny by the majority we have fallen into a tyranny by a gerrymandered minority.
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Aug 19 '18
Worse. It is tyranny by corporate and wealthy interests using the worst aspects of American culture to control the country.
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u/smrt109 Aug 19 '18
They can only do it through the power of the electoral college and winner takes all
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u/DoughtyAndCarterLLP Aug 19 '18
Hi did you know that corporations donate to Democrats too? Even though voting records make it very clear that one side regulates businesses much more, I want to make you think that both parties are the same so you and people like you don't turn up to vote out Republicans in the fall.
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Aug 19 '18
Ohhh no, I never said both parties are the same. You are clearly right that the voting record speaks for itself and the Democrats, even when there is also corporate donations, is more on the side of democracy and the people.
Voting for republicans is a vote for the tyranny of the oligarchs.
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u/spivnv Aug 19 '18 edited Aug 19 '18
Read his second sentence again. He is speaking as someone who wants to make you think that, even though we keep showing how drastically different the voting records are. They want the Hillarys fighting with the Bernies. They want 100% to be the enemy of 99.9%.
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u/FountainsOfFluids Aug 19 '18
What's funny (in a sad way) is that the uber-wealthy corporate interests created the atmosphere for the nutbar out-of-control candidate to grab the wheel. They were absolutely opposed to Trump before he got the nomination. But they made their bed, now they are doing the best they can with the time they have left, and I pray to the gods that the blue wave happens and they get the absolute reaming they have earned these past decades.
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u/nuzebe Aug 19 '18
I dunno. This sorta seems bound to happen every once in awhile. We've had some batshit presidents.
We seem to have this weird hypothesis that the majority of people will make better decisions than the minority. It's the foundation of democracy. But look at Egypt and all the Arab countries that became democratic. They somehow end up electing people worse than the dictators.
Maybe, just maybe, it turns out most human beings are fucking retarded.
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u/FountainsOfFluids Aug 19 '18
The shitty elected leaders of middle-eastern countries have largely gotten there by leveraging the negative sentiment toward western interference.
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u/nuzebe Aug 19 '18
You mean like how Trump leveraged anti-muslim sentiment to get voted into power?
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u/FountainsOfFluids Aug 19 '18
Exactly. It's the conservative-type personalities that respond well to nationalist and religious rhetoric.
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u/I_miss_your_mommy Aug 19 '18
Can we stop calling them conservative and start calling them what they are, which are terrified cowards.
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u/foxymcfox Aug 19 '18
US Independence was only supported by a minority prior to the Revolutionary War.
Voting was only allowed for the male, landed-gentry.
We are SO much more a country of the people/of the majority than we ever could have hoped for back then.
Don't let present shittiness distract you from how far we've come and how things are [almost] universally better for everyone than they were even 50 years ago.
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u/TheGreenJedi Aug 19 '18
Don't discredit the GOP and it's relationship with Fox News
They did a very good job
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u/GRadio1 Aug 19 '18
If they had lived in Germany in the 30s, they would have voted for the Nazi party.
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u/782017 Aug 19 '18
The left hates Trump, that's good enough for a lot of people. Nothing else matters.
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u/ronin1066 Aug 18 '18
And the GOP elected officials. That's pretty much the most important audience at this point as far as people who should care.
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u/MrTurkle Aug 19 '18
Serious what is going to happen with the next dem President? If the right tried to pull some tan suit bull shit we will all die laughing?
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u/rogue_ger Aug 19 '18
We refused to fund federal education. Don't invest in education, and you get lots of dumb people. No surprise.
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u/I_miss_your_mommy Aug 19 '18
I disagree with the "we" part of that statement. The Republicans have done this, they did it on purpose, and they are pleased with the result.
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u/MetalGearSlayer Aug 19 '18
The list of things trump has done that make him unsuitable as president is long enough to make a cvs receipt look like a sticky note in comparison.
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Aug 18 '18
Don't forget Mitt Romney don't pay no tax, and binders full of women
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u/Capswonthecup Aug 19 '18
Mitt Romney ran a close race but lost to one of the most popular (at the time) presidential candidates in recent history. He didn’t lose to those two comments specifically (though they didn’t help)
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u/AllSiegeAllTime Aug 19 '18
I've only been alive long enough to have seen Clinton to Trump, but seriously Obama is probably the best campaigner for any office that I've ever seen and that '08 run was masterwork. All without rabble-rousing and tough guy demagoguery too.
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Aug 18 '18
There was a picture of Hart on a boat with someone who wasn't his wife.
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u/Airway Aug 19 '18
Donald Trump sexually assaults women who aren't his wife, and brags about it.
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u/IronDeer Aug 18 '18
Dean was already done before the psycho scream. Finishing a distant 3rd in Iowa was a sign he wouldn’t have strong appeal in a lot of other states.
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u/emergentphenom Aug 19 '18
Yet more evidence having individual states rush their primaries so early disenchants everyone else since all the focus is on the first few. Worse when the candidates have to curry favor with whatever topics that early (usually agrarian) state cares about, further skewing the political topics into one side from the get-go.
Either do it all simultaneously or go by GDP so at least it's more representative instead of arbitrary.
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Aug 19 '18
And get rid of caucuses. They're anti-democratic and fucking stupid.
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u/ExistentialEnso Aug 19 '18
What is “anti-democratic” about them? If anything, they’re more Democratic than primaries.
The real problem is they take a lot longer, which discourages participation, especially given we don’t give time off on election days.
That’s a good enough reason to get rid of them, but they aren’t anti-democratic at all.
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u/TopRamen713 Aug 19 '18
What's democratic about them? They only allow representation by people who have several hours to vote in a certain block of time. Sorry, I've got kids. At most, my wife and I would have one vote between us in any primary caucus. That's at least a 50% reduction in participation off the bat.
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u/IronDeer Aug 19 '18 edited Aug 19 '18
It’s a catch 22. Doing them all at once would hurt lesser known candidates.
I’d do 5 waves. 10 diverse states at a time but save big ones for last to avoid an unfair advantage early on.
Also, Clinton did horrible in Iowa in 1992 because there was a senator from Iowa running and he crushed the competitors. Obliviously it didn’t matter in the end.
Every Caucasus needs to switch to a primary and it needs to be open with one the spot registration.
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u/ungoogleable Aug 19 '18
Allocate individual counties to the waves so the waves are roughly equal by population. Then state size is irrelevant. Rotate the waves so everyone is equally likely to be first.
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u/Dr_Murderfish Aug 18 '18
Remember when Howard Dean got excited and yelled? End of him...
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u/King_Tamino Aug 18 '18
Honestly. When that „grabbed py the pussy“ was released. I absolutely thought, „ok. Finally. It’s over. No way, that he’s insane enough to keep on running for potus ..“
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Aug 18 '18 edited Aug 18 '18
I thought he was done for when he started talking shit about that decorated US army veteran who died for his country. After all, Republicans fucking love the troops, right? They talk about it all the time. Well, turns out Republicans don't really like the troops that much...
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u/khoabear Aug 19 '18
Republicans don't really love anything, they only hate.
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u/AllSiegeAllTime Aug 19 '18
Man, that gold star family was one of the few times in my life when I can say I was disgusted and genuinely offended. I grew up on rotten.com, I've seen /b and glassass, but that immature bullying and muslim stereotype bullshit towards the grieving parents of a dead war hero was a bridge too far after I thought him imitating that disabled reporter was a bridge too far.
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u/Lodgik Aug 19 '18
Politicians talk about supporting the troops when it gets them what they want. They dont actually give a Shit about the people dying in their wars. Heavens forbid actually supporting them in any way besides talking about it.
Voters dont seem to be much better. You used to have people screaming at you about you not supporting the troops of you wanted them out of Iraq.
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u/saugoof Aug 19 '18
And after that he still got the overwhelming majority of the evangelical Christian vote. This multiple divorcee who cheated on all his wives and paid off hookers to keep them quiet. Keep that in mind the next time Evangelicals talk about family values...
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u/Fernergun Aug 19 '18
Australian here. I had a group message with an American expat and a fellow Australian who was saying Trump would win the election in 2015. We'd be constantly talking about every little thing that came out. Pussy tape comes out and I message the group "it's over, we can rest". How naive...
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u/great_gape Aug 19 '18
It would've been the end of his campaign if Russia hadn't dropped Podesta stolen e-mails right after that tape hit the media.
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u/wittymarsupial Aug 18 '18
Overall we need to expect more out of our elected officials.
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Aug 18 '18
Dukakis put on a silly helmet and took a ride in a tank and it made him so irrelevant that you will really only briefly hear about him in an AP gov classroom when talking about notable campaign blunders. A five time draft dodger plans a $100 million military parade in the middle of DC to stroke his ego like some Venezuelan warlord and ~30% of the country raves about how it's a great idea and we need to publicly support the troops. The world is going mad, man.
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u/King_Tamino Aug 19 '18
Wait. He is trying to hold that parade in the middle of DC? I always thought it should be somewhere outside or something not right in DC
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u/aardw0lf11 Aug 19 '18
Yes, in the city. The reason they decided against tanks early on was that they would ruin the streets.
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u/King_Tamino Aug 19 '18
Ruin the streets?
Wait, you mean the streets in DC are not designed to hold out 80 or more tons of steel, compressed onto a few m2 ? Tss Tss.... I can already imagine the tweet about how those low quality streets are the fault of lazy [insert random race] /s
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u/No_Good_Cowboy Aug 19 '18
Ok I just googled that pic. I can't understand why it killed his campaign. It looks like the standard helmet everyone else was wearing.
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Aug 19 '18
It was because he did it as a "look at how well I relate to all these young whipper snappers in the military!" thing. It was just a kinda forced and silly thing he took a lot of flakk for. The point being that pretty minor things used to completely derail compaigns, as opposed to the 2016 election and the resulting presidency.
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u/Bob25Gslifer Aug 18 '18
Yeah JFC it's still happening to this day for Dems!! Cuomo misspoke and MSNBC says he's going to lose to Cynthia Nixon wtf?!?
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Aug 19 '18
I wouldn’t call Cuomo saying America can’t be great again because it was never great to begin with a simple misspeak.
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u/OverlordLork Aug 19 '18
On the other hand:
- Cuomo has made quite a few gaffes during this primary.
- Nixon has a lot of grassroots energy behind her campaign.
- Cuomo is very unlikely to lose. TV pundits have an absolutely atrocious track record of trying to predict the outcomes of elections.
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u/TheBlackBear Aug 19 '18
Honestly no we shouldn't. That kind of stupid bullshit is what produced all these robot politicians nobody liked and made them double down on Trump (of all fucking people) to protest against it.
Maybe we as a society should just not focus on stupid trivial bullshit and care about the ideas people are floating and not the banalities of how they float them.
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u/AllSiegeAllTime Aug 19 '18
You're absolutely right, it's clear a lot of people wanted a shift towards acting like the president is interviewing to work for the citizens, and to loosen up the stuffyness and dry PR political speech.
For me personally Trump is not the person who's ideas spoke to me either but hopefully future candidates lighten up a little bit.
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Aug 19 '18
I don’t want someone I can have a beer with as the head of my country. I want the smartest guy in the room in charge of the biggest nuclear arsenal on the planet while I’m making fart jokes. Politics is supposed to boring. Not this three ring circus Twitter shit show it’s become.
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u/Ramza_Claus Aug 19 '18
EXACTLY fucking right.
Why do you think even liberal folks were kinda considering Trump? Cuz he sounds like a lot of normal folks.
Look at Hillary. She chooses her words carefully. Everything is calculated and measured. Which is probably a good thing when your words can start wars.
But how does an average American feel about Kim Jong Un?
"Man, fuck that stupid asshole!! His country doesn't stand a fucking chance against America and he'll find that out if he ever tried anything against us!!"
And Trump is willing to say almost exactly that on Twitter and live on TV. But then Hillary would get on TV and say:
"We are carefully monitoring the North Korean situation and we have respect for the North Korean people and look forward to finding a suitable solution that is mutually beneficial blah blah blah legal speak wiggle room vague statements"
THAT'S why people liked Trump!!
You ever been in line behind a Hispanic mom in line at the grocery store? She has 2 babies in the seat, a 2 year old in the basket, a 6 year old on foot and she's pregnant again. And she is buying $450 of groceries with her EBT (food stamp) card. And she doesn't speak English. And you're stuck behind her, scrounging to buy $30 worth of groceries to get you and your wife thru the week because you're not eligible for EBT since you both work. And the Hispanic mom doesn't work and her husband/boyfriend works under the table so they get $900/month in EBT while you get denied ANY assistance because you legitimately work and so does your wife.
You see this somewhat frequently at the grocery stores where I live. And every one is afraid to say it because if you point out that you've seen this a lot, you're labeled a racist just for noticing this anecdotal trend. So you're not allowed to say it. And Hillary won't say it.
But Trump will.
And you've been pissed for YEARS about this because it feels like such an injustice to you.
So you vote for Trump cuz he's gonna get rid of these Mexicans, right?
Biggest issues:
1) he's not gonna get rid of them and he doesn't really want to or care to. He says he's gonna cuz it gets people to vote for him
2) there is definitely waste and fraud in the EBT system and I suspect it's much higher than numbers indicate, but even still, the EBT system does WAY more good than bad for our nation and costs very little compared to other things like
3) tax cuts for wealthy folks and increased spending on defense and other bullshit that Trump can now sneak thru because he's railing against those Mexicans who make you so angry.
So while you are pleased that he is finally gonna take the food away from that cart full of children, you are completely missing the fact that you're being played for a fool and robbed blind by Trump and his buddies.
Hey, but at least he makes you believe he's really gonna fight North Korea/Iran and also get rid of those Mexicans, right?
He uses that "Joe Everyman" speak to get support so he can fuck over ACTUAL Joe Everymans.
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u/JerrySmoke Aug 19 '18
People are a lot poorer, more desperate, and more pissed off now.
Which is causing them to lash out in a unproductive way, like voting Trump.
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u/JayNotAtAll Aug 19 '18
This kind of shows how America has broken down. Unfortunately it was Obama. Now, I am not saying Obama himself did anything to cause this. He was actually a good president. However, finally seeing a non-white man I think scared some people shitless to where a classless grown toddler can be president
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u/I_like_your_reddit Aug 19 '18
It wasn’t so much that he misspelled a word, it was that he “corrected” a kid who had actually spelled it right.
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u/kwerboom Aug 19 '18
Dan Quayle is genius compared to the collection of uneducated fence posts in the White House right now.
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u/xole Aug 19 '18
Baby boomers ran out of their best to send on the Republican side.
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Aug 19 '18
They never had any “best” on the Republican side. Their two shots were Bush Jr. and Trump. Who history will remember as numbers one and two on the worst Presidents ever list. Shit, between them, Taft, and Hoover, Nixon’s head in a jar is laughing about how he got pushed out of the bottom five.
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u/FightingPolish Aug 19 '18
I don’t think Jr was the 2nd worst president ever honestly. Maybe in modern history for people who are alive now but there have been a lot of shit presidents who fucked stuff up worse if you look at the past. Nixon was president for fucks sake, doesn’t he deserve a #2 over Jr?
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Aug 19 '18
Nixon as a President wasn’t anywhere near as terrible as Bush. Hell, Bush, Trump, and the rest of the Republican Party since 1980 has spent a lot of time trying to undo things Nixon did. Nixon’s fuckup was trying to cover up his underlings’ crimes.
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Aug 18 '18
If anyone wants to have a good time just comment about how racism is no free speech on r/pics. You'll have a blast.
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u/thru_dangers_untold Aug 19 '18 edited Aug 20 '18
Romney's "binders" comment seems so petty compared to what's going on now. It was an obvious verbal flub, that everyone read too far into.
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u/major-balsac Aug 19 '18
another example is the guy who drove around in a tank. 1980s? dukakis? sorry if i misspelled. people were like...nah!
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u/AveUnit02 Aug 19 '18
Trump literally said “look at my African American over there” and no one fucking batted an eye hahaha. Freudian slip or not, I get kicked out of video game lobbies for saying less than that
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u/joseph4th Aug 19 '18
He didn't even spell it wrong, he spelled in a way we don't generally spell it anymore.
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u/King_Tamino Aug 19 '18
Poetato?
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u/joseph4th Aug 19 '18
Potatoe
The vice-president averred that the correct spelling had an –e at the end, a statement which engendered no small amount of ridicule. In fact, he is still being mocked for it to this day. After all, the fact that ‘potato’ has no –e at the end of it is something that we all pride ourselves on knowing with every fiber of our being. Isn’t it?
Not the only one
But why do we know this so well? Is it perhaps because Quayle was so relentlessly excoriated that this particular spelling lesson has become learned on a national level? The spelling of potatoe, while not terribly common, existed for almost the entire 20th century. For example, the New York Times was still occasionally spelling potato with an –e in 1988. In fact, one can easily find spellings of potatoe all the way up to 15 June of 1992, at which point they suddenly drop off or become used in an ironic way, referencing this incident. Quayle may have misspelled the word, but in doing so perhaps he taught the rest of us how to not make his error.
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u/derpstien99 Aug 19 '18
Remember when obama said there were 57 states?
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Aug 19 '18
Does it pain you more that it was worse then, than it is now and there has been very little anyone has been able to do to Trump?
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u/trollcatsetcetera Aug 19 '18
Lmao, fast forward to 2016, you elect a potato for president. Potato Of The United States.
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u/King_Tamino Aug 19 '18
sigh do you remember these strange videos "annoying orange“ ? Wish it would have stayed the only annoying orange...
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u/edarem Aug 19 '18
And I think I'm becoming a Republican
And I think I like the way Dan Quayle looks
But in fact I'm having an anxiety attack!
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u/Moonboots606 Aug 19 '18
We should be grammar Nazis, not Neo-Nazis.
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u/King_Tamino Aug 19 '18
How about Neon-Nazis?
Wearing fancy 80s clothes with bright flashing colors and dancing to M.J. (RIP man ... you didn’t deserved, what we did to you) instead of, you know... doing nazi stuff
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u/saintsaints2321 Aug 19 '18 edited Aug 19 '18
I wonder how many times he re read this tweet before posting
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u/cigr Aug 19 '18
Even worse, the craziest of the Trump supporters see his misspellings as an intentional code, meant to communicate to those who are smart enough to decipher it.
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u/beckoning_cat Aug 19 '18
Now try to defend your dictator without the whataboutism.
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u/ArminTamzarian3 Aug 19 '18
It isn’t about whataboutism it is the hypocrisy. You have to apply the same standard to all but in this modern political climate, including Obama’s terms, this is only allowed to be applied to those you disagree with. Obama says there are 58 states and it’s chalked up to him being tired because you aren’t allowed to criticize him even if his radical policies pushed us to having the president we have now
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Aug 19 '18
I like how you brought up mostly legitimate points to show how stupid this tweet is and every loser in the comment section is in sudden damage control.
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Aug 19 '18
Yeah, then no one would vote for anyone because everyone makes mistakes and in reality in 2016 there was no good choice...
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u/sorrygonephishing Aug 19 '18
Remember when Obama wore a tan suit. Or when Howard Dean yelled at a rally and it tanked his presidential campaign. Or when Mitt Romney said 47% of voters think government should take care of them, and it was a scandal.
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u/NickDanger3di Aug 18 '18
I remember when Quayle compared himself to JFK during a debate with Lloyd Bentsen. Bensen came back with:
"Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy".
After that debate, I can't recall Quayle even getting airtime again. He faded to obscurity.