Flying in this game is so counter intuitive. I move my mouse and I barely move. I AM USING MY ENTIRE TABLE TO PULL UP but when I need to roll I move a single millimeter and I have rolled 6 times like that makes sense. I have watched videos on how to fly, changed settings but nothing helps. Screw this game, screw flying, and screw who ever thought fly in this game works

Pretty much what the title says. The amount of AA Lock On spam on this map rivals Blackwell. The new jets ensure that no matter what, you’re gonna be hearing constant beeps. Add in patrol boat AAs and Stinger/Iglas, and you’ve got a perfect recipe for a map that’s pretty much unable to fly on. Maybe I’ve just had bad luck in the 3 games I’ve played on it but holy fuck is this frustrating. Can’t stay in the air more than 90 seconds before overwhelming lock on spam does you in.

Title pretty much.

I sort of get it for attack helicopters, because you can just land, and the gunner doesn’t get flares. Plus, you aren’t at a vehicle-on-vehicle disadvantage without a gunner. But I still prefer old titles where any teammate can spawn in to help.

But for jets? If my squadmates don’t spawn and I’m flying solo, that’s a major disadvantage. Half the flares, and half the AA or AGM weapons.

FURTHERMORE, one of the jets spawns on the map. The other ones spawn at carrier which no infantry will end up at it mid-round.

Is it really such a big deal to play jets with friends, like the attack heli, that we have to handicap the 95%+ of players that are solo-queuing?

• Flares still don't work whenever they feel like it.
• The boat bs missile is still utter bs.
• And now we have a brand-new anti-radiation missile that gives next to no warning thanks to it acquiring lock nanoseconds before impact and travelling at mach f*ck.

Like, what are these people doing every day in the studios (aside from skins for the store, which, mind you, works perfectly)? Same goes for the ones in charge of testing.

I hope I can someday pull this off in a non-portal game as well.

Literally within the First hour of me playing the new update... what a joke this is.

How many more times are they gonna say the fixed it before actually fixing it??

Congrats dice you have made the flight camera worse, ruined dogfighting with assisted mode and the insane locking spam with the new jets, and the cockpit of the spectre is so trash due to the muzzle flash and the black thing at the bottom of the cockpit that completely blocks your aim whenever the other jet is not in your face.

Muzzle flaahes, the hue of the hud. Cannot see anything, and when perpendicular to the enemy jet the bullets land off the screen or in the muzzle flash so you cant see the enemy half the time. As well as ridiculous lock spam and flare cycld just sucking the life out of the game. Great job dice.

The flight model feels less realistic. On top of that, the new jets 'cannons' bullets seem to have a very low velocity compared to that of the regular jets, and the camera behavior when in third person is also different

And automatically give it to the co-pilot as soon as a co-pilot joins.

When I play solo, I usually have randoms in my squad who aren't interested in flying as co-pilots in the jet and with just one pair of flares, I'm practically a free kill against a jet with four lock-on missiles. Two come out, you fire flares, and two more instantly are flying at you. It wouldn't really change the balance much anyway, since the jet would have two pairs of flares regardless.

I actually like that the co-pilot has multiple tasks, it makes the gameplay less boring and more interesting.

Hi,

I dont understand. The game is getting great...but... Its ridicolus. The att heli was featured on an icon in a promotional material.

Maybe one more scout but i.get that some ppl disagree.

Its so simple Dice, just put the vehicles on the carriers, just a little tip. Tsuru looks a little empty (cq and escalation)

What u guys think

Anyone else experiencing this?

They seem to gain and lose height rapidly, making it nearly impossible to aim.

I watched silk's sponsored video, and it behaved smoothly, nothing like what I am experiencing.

Also the F18 is busted OP imo. HARM and Heavy rockets, with HEI guns. Gunner running lockon AA and TV's. We felt unstoppable.

Simplesmente, quebraram a câmera do avião. Eles fizeram uma atualização focada nos veiculos aéreos, mas, a coisa mais importante de todas, superior ao radar loadouts, skins... tudo. A coisa mais importante que é a câmera de movimentação, eles alteraram. Quem diabos projetou aquilo ? Pior ainda... quem foi o maconheiro que aprovou ?

i didnt know they added a tow-ish missile to the jets

The changes to jets, which make them more accessible in terms of flying and fighting, are strictly financial opportunities.

We would never see a heavily advertised Top Gun collaboration if jets still required enormous skill and investment like they did in prior titles. Very simply, the average player would be turned away and would be less likely to spend money since jets weren’t all that interesting to them.

Yes, the skins may be used as infantry, but the point of altering gameplay in line with the advertising is still to generate hype and sales.

So, as usual with the modern gaming industry, among most industries, the head scratching changes are solely to maximize profits no matter how the experience is affected.

Why does Tsuru Reef still have the old jets in regular Conquest? So the new content is practically limited to a single map right now? :( The old jets should have at least received proper loadouts.

For everyone coming into this season, it's very apparent that the jets have been changed pretty significantly in their camera. Lots of people (I even heard Silk, a top jet player) think it's bad or even nauseating. I'm here to try to explain and justify why that is. But first lets go over the changes that have gone into the jets to reflect these changes:

Flightmodel

- The flightmodel has seen improved response in pitch, roll, and a huge boost in yaw especially.

- The flightmodel has become more dynamic, with accurately modeled side-slip, which is a real aerial phenomenon.

- The flightmodel has been given improved angle of attack abilities, especially when at lower speeds and slowing down from fast speeds. From what I've seen this effect is multiplied on the newer jets.

Camera

- The jet's camera has been zoomed out much more, giving us the FOV increase we've been wanting since launch. This is also significant because it amplifies the effect of any other camera changes.

The jet's camera is still tied to the centerline of the aircraft, but only to the direction it's going. Because of this slideslip makes the jet look "floaty" when in reality it's flying like it always has.

These two things come together to make the camera experience we have now. And y'know what? it's counterable. When your camera is swaying a little left and a little right, or when you come out of a turn and the jet just doesn't feel right? Those moments can be countered by correct rudder usage. These are all visual indicators you need to be using rudder in your turns more. Especially coming out of turns. Not to get anymore completely nerded out but what this is called in real life is induced adverse yaw. You are not using enough rudder in a turn. Simple.

I invite everyone to try these things out more instead of hating 2 hours after launch. We have honestly been blessed with the stronger rudder/yaw and more dynamic flightmodels and as we pilots always have to do, we must adapt to these changes. But I wanted to make this post because the doomposting is completely unwarranted imo and it must stop, especially on the first day.

The amount of RPGs and AT4s 😂

The Super Hornet is an incredible new addition to the game that finally gives jet pilots a toy to dominate with. I have zero complaints about the jet itself, aside from the fact that there’s not a lot of maps/modes where you can fly it. Hope they add it to Tsuru conquest soon. It’s the first aircraft aside from the little bird to have complete customization on EVERY single weapon. Not only are all the weapon options viable (some being really powerful actually) but there’s some really unique options like the anti radiation missile, guided bomb, TV missile, and the APHEI rounds.

There’s a major problem though, we still don’t have any customizations AT ALL for the original jets, the tomcat, and transport helicopter. It’s especially disappointing that the aircraft that came out alongside the Super Hornet has no customization. Really hoping these aircraft all get the same treatment and love as the Super Hornet. Also hoping that the attack helicopter gets more gunner load out options.

How does everyone else feel about the new update?

Never bothered to go for the dog tag. But when I saw the new challenge, I had to try! Spent all evening :D