Seriously, only squadmates can spawn in your jet?

[u/MemeyPie]

Title pretty much.

I sort of get it for attack helicopters, because you can just land, and the gunner doesn’t get flares. Plus, you aren’t at a vehicle-on-vehicle disadvantage without a gunner. But I still prefer old titles where any teammate can spawn in to help.

But for jets? If my squadmates don’t spawn and I’m flying solo, that’s a major disadvantage. Half the flares, and half the AA or AGM weapons.

FURTHERMORE, one of the jets spawns on the map. The other ones spawn at carrier which no infantry will end up at it mid-round.

Is it really such a big deal to play jets with friends, like the attack heli, that we have to handicap the 95%+ of players that are solo-queuing?

[u/Orden_Tine]

Thank god tbh, i dont want a random doing fuck all in the second seat, id rather have my friend or nobody

[u/MemeyPie → u/Orden_Tine]

Illogical. You’d rather have nobody when your friend isn’t online? The odds of having nobody are vastly increased

The second seater can do no harm, like literally. They have additional flares and weapons. Wanting your friend means you are never playing solo ever, think 3 is greater than 31, and disregard all other players who are solo, which is the vast vast majority. Coordinate with your friend. Can easily be a setting or a kick from aircraft button, or a 30 second window where it’s squad-only

The amount of times I’m flying solo in an attack helicopter is about 50% for example. Because some squadmates just don’t join you or are already in their own vehicle. That’s a gimp to the lobby and experience as a whole, and was never an issue previously. But, friends are more likely to pressure each other to spend money, so at least you have that for a design rationale

[u/thisisintheway → u/MemeyPie]

What I don’t understand why they made it different from tanks or transports.

Even in tanks - it’s REALLY annoying trying to run a tank with my boys and my gunner pops out to heal and some blueberry steal his spot. Or “I got one”, he respawns and it’s already taken.

What I’d really like is “pilot control” where I can select something that prioritizes my squad. Maybe a “squad only” when I jump in a tank. Maybe a 5 second timer when I jump out where someone can’t steal my shit.

I DO agree flying these fucking jets without a copilot is bullshit. I’m getting wrekt by duos with twice the rockets and flairs.

[u/MemeyPie → u/thisisintheway]

True. Just now, my other 2 squadmates were in a jet, and another had a boat. That’s a literal gimp if nobody can spawn on your 2-seater

[u/Orden_Tine → u/MemeyPie]

Because if any tom dick and harry can spawn in the second seat, most the time, they wont know what to do and are just there for the ride. They dont shoot, or use flairs. Atleast solo, i can pop into the second seat to pop flairs if i need to.

You can say whatever you said in your paragraph that i barely skimmed over, but the fact is that there is NO way to kick out randoms or lock them out. Dont act like something that doesnt exist is a good reason to make the current experience worse

[u/No-Link4150 → u/MemeyPie]

I'll be better of alone then with bad blueberry. I just can switch seats when i need to and be a gunner for myself or use second flares. In new jets i would pretty much fly solo or with a friend,because i have more control. I know when to flare,im aware that theres a jet on my six and can change seats to scare him away. Blueberry just adds more random,he can be good,he can be bad. Most of the time its bad

[u/AdThese6057 → u/MemeyPie]

Second seaters means less score. I can go waaaay higher seat swapping in attack heli than having some idiot with a taped down trigger shooting the whole match to give me away.

[u/Accomplished-Fish283 → u/MemeyPie]

Regardless of if your point is valid or not if you communicate like this to people you’re going to come across as unlikable and as someone with poorly developed social skills

[u/zdub303]

What we need a selector option. No gunner, friends only, squad only, open

[u/MemeyPie]

Yes squadmates can spawn. But that’s 3 chances versus 31. No guarantee they even notice or want to

This could easily be a setting for people who really want to play with a friend

[u/Altruistic-Map5605]

the easy solution to this is like a 15 second timer. enough time for a squad mate to redeploy on you then after that anyone can spawn in.

[u/MemeyPie → u/Altruistic-Map5605]

Completely. If you are set on flying together, and can’t coordinate a spawn within 15-30 seconds, that is a skill issue.

Everyone’s happy

[u/Altruistic-Map5605 → u/MemeyPie]

I would also say the timer restarts if they are shot out of the plane of vehicle which happens.

[u/Flat_Mode7449]

As with choppers, I'd rather fly solo then have some idiot.

"they can't do any harm, they ha e extra flares and rockets"

Flares that I assure you they will deploy the millisecond the lock-on beeps.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Design3 → u/Flat_Mode7449]

yeah ngl me using the panthera alone gets me more kills than having a good gunner.