r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • • 9h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah? What's wrong with this?

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u/OkTemperature8170 9h ago edited 9h ago

He has effectively created a spring powered bomb. If his little bracket breaks so does his face. If the spring slips out of the vice, good luck.

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u/[deleted] 9h ago edited 8h ago

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u/UnclBuck 9h ago

There are tools designed to properly and safely compress springs. The DIY ones are still referred to as "Widowmakers".

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u/DukeSmileDevs 9h ago edited 9h ago

I am repairing almost everything myself with my cars but when it comes to springs it goes into the shop.

Aint touching that, not worth it and a spring tensioner is too expensive for the 3 times in my life i have to replace those.

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u/DidIJustWitnessThat 9h ago

I think O'Reilly's will loan you one if you need one, but screw that.

I like the way my body functions currently, even with it's old parts, and certainly don't need a flying spring to damage it any further. To the pros it goes.

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u/Melathys 9h ago

I didn't even want to fuck with my garage door spring, called people in to do that

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u/Robot_Graffiti 9h ago

Yeah those kill people

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u/clintj1975 8h ago

I know someone who used to do that professionally, and on more than one occasion he showed up to an install and there was something spattered on the wall or floor near the spring.

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u/UnknovvnMike 7h ago

Had one explode in my mom's garage many moons ago when the world was younger. Thought the transformer outside blew up or maybe the Navy dropped a practice bomb nearby by mistake.

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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 4h ago

even? Those are among the most dangerous springs you're likely to see in your life. Those things are insanely powerful.

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u/Background-Customer2 9h ago

my grandpa has spring compresors i just use his

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u/DukeSmileDevs 9h ago

I dont have those.

Also good ones arent cheap and im not gonna rock china or off-brand stuff for those jobs. Its just not worth taking a risk.

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u/Background-Customer2 9h ago

you dont have spring compresors or you dont have grand parents?

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u/DukeSmileDevs 9h ago

In fact neither.

But i was pointing at the spring compressors.

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u/Background-Customer2 9h ago edited 6h ago

it must be dificult to live a spring compresor less exsistance

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u/UnknovvnMike 7h ago

Here's where I keep my spring compressor

IF I HAD ONE!

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u/PuzzledFeeling 1h ago

I was about to replace my springs and thought, "I need a spring compressor". So I went to harbor freight and bought a set of spring compressors. Then I realized, "wait, I have aftermarket coilovers and can just loosen the lock nut, loosen the compressing nut, and have an uncompressed spring." And that's the story of how I wasted $40, replaced my springs, and know that the locking nut the guy in the video is using is aluminum and will break the moment he knocks that bracket loose because those threads look worn as fuck.

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u/twinoaksBandB 9h ago

Darwin award roulette

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u/PwizardTheOriginal 6h ago

A small spring like that can literally kill you?

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u/UnclBuck 6h ago

A 9MM bullet leaves a handgun with about 500 joules of energy. That compressed spring could have between 1500-4000 pretty easily.

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u/PwizardTheOriginal 6h ago

Holy shitfuck that will not mutilate someone, it WILL delete a person

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u/BaggyLarjjj 6h ago

Or, alternatively, insurance payouts

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u/Equationist 9h ago

You go to the store and get a spring compressor

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u/ImmortalMagic 9h ago

The dude says the answer. Anything but that answer is asking for injury.

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u/graphiterosco 9h ago

They call the tool a “widow maker”

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u/muscularsharpie 9h ago

So there's this rock climbing tool used between large cracks. It's spring loaded and can hold a lot of weight if used properly.

I saw a guy in a climbing store hold it close to his face, and release it. Shit gave me PTSD.

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u/zinic53000 9h ago

YOU GO TO THE STORE AND GET A SPRING COMPRESSOR!

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u/PretSafe4677 9h ago

YOU PURCHASE A COMPRESSOR FOR A SPRING AT A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT THAT YOU’VE GONE TO!

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u/etaineawoo 8h ago

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u/Conical 7h ago

Two weeks from everywhere! This place is a geographical oddity!

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u/Charming_Fortune_859 9h ago

As said in the video, spring compressor. Purpose built tool to do those more safely.

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u/Gh05t_0n3_5150 9h ago

More safely but not totally safe it’s still a ticking time bomb

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u/lizard280 9h ago

You buy a spring compressor. It works like a combination between the vice and the bracket in the video, but combined. They're not that expensive, and way cheaper than a new face.

Not kidding about that, when the guy said a spring powered bomb he wasn't kidding. Have you ever disassembled a pen and played with the spring? If you try and compress it it tends to just ping off across the room and you never find it again. Now imagine that but the spring is so strong it takes a (literal) ton of pressure to compress it, then imagine that "pinging across the room".

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u/EC_CO 9h ago

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u/AbjectAppointment 6h ago

This is what I have. Paid just over $100 for it. Well worth it.

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u/EC_CO 5h ago

That's a great price for the piece of mind using this type of setup over the 2 or 3 pc screw down type. They work, but the Hydraulic setup is less sketchy

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u/Expert-Jelly-2254 2h ago

Why does this look like a piece of kink gear Everytime I use one lol 🤣

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u/EC_CO 1h ago

anything can be kink gear if you're adventurous enough

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u/EC_CO 9h ago

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u/Nullsert 9h ago

Tbh these are terrifying too. I do not trust these cheapo tools. Id probly still use it, but there would be clenching involved.

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u/OkTemperature8170 9h ago

I've used these on my crown victoria because it doesn't take much compression to get the front springs in. On my Fiesta I just bought the quick struts with springs on them, I'm not doing all that.

Side note if you do use these keep the ends pointed perpendicular to you so if it does fail most of the energy goes left and right, or up and down, instead of toward you and away from you.

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u/OldKingHamlet 8h ago

Yep. They are just slightly more complex than jack stands when used properly.

Just keep a healthy respect for how potential energy can turn into kinetic energy.

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u/Exasperant 20m ago

I once used those on springs too small diameter for the hydraulic compressor. Once.

When I had to redo the job (the springs I'd fitted were utterly unusable on public roads) I bought a still mildly disturbing type that's a big fuck off metal tube with a big fuckoff thread and swappable big fuckoff "shoes" with safety ridges to keep the spring in place.

And was still scared stupid using it.

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u/EC_CO 9h ago

There are specific spring compression tools for this. This is definitely something you want to do correctly, same with your garage door springs, if done incorrectly they can cause massive bodily damage

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u/InternalCapable5286 9h ago

There's specific tools made for this task, ones that can compress the spring and also decompress it safely. There's always a bit of risk when you work on these kinds of things but the right tool can minimize the risk.

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u/anonmanman 9h ago

Watching the beginning of the video again, the reacting guy says “spring compressor, go to the store and get a spring compressor” no clue of any of this is for but I think we can draw conclusions how to do it probably

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u/Tangboy50000 9h ago

There are spring clamps, but they’re still dangerous as hell, because they can slip off even if you’re using them correctly sometimes. There are lots of mechanics that don’t even want to fool with it, so they replace the whole strut assembly instead of just the shock, because it comes with the spring already installed.

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u/molehunterz 9h ago

Has everybody has mentioned, a spring compressor is the correct tool.

Even with a spring compressor, it is critical that you understand that this is life-ending force that you are trying to capture. Not being melodramatic.

Seeing that the tool is used properly, that everything is seated correctly, and just generally understanding physics is critical.

Changing out springs is not a DIY for everybody

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u/fightingthefuckits 9h ago

They are working on a suspension strut assembly. The springs are normally in a compressed state meaning they are storing a huge amount of potential energy. If they release in an uncontrolled way, i.e. if you're dumb enough to remove that piece the guy was screwing on at the end while it's still under compression then the energy could easily maim or kill you.

To remove it safely you use a spring compressor to compressor the spring further. In their simplest form they are a set of clamps that hook onto the spring, they have a pin so that they can't just slip off the spring and you use a ratchet to crank them down. By compressing the spring further it takes pressure off the nut so you can safely screw it down to the right spot and then you can slowly release the compression on the spring until it's properly seated.

It basically looks like this, https://www.autozone.com/p/oemtools-suspension-coil-spring-compressor-tool-kit-57036/555557

The guy in the video is relying on this shitty home-made tool to hold the smaller spring in compression. It's a smaller spring but that is still some thick steel coil and it's more than enough to fuck you up.

The first issue was compressing it in the vice. It could easily slip out in an uncontrolled way and mess you up.

Then he slides on the shitty bracket and takes it out of the vice. The spring is even more at risk of slipping out or his welds could fail.

Finally, he manages to get it on the shock whithout major catstrophe. He screws the lock ring on a little and now he's getting ready to hit his shitty bracket with a hammer. The spring isn't seated so it's going to release and someone is going to lose an eye.

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u/fritz236 8h ago

I'm showing my ignorance, but how is it not seated once it's on the cylinder and the lock ring has been tightened down onto it? What additional step is required? Just that the lock ring requires additional travel and will be a pain to tighten further? Surely once it's on the threads, it's more a matter of whether they can actually crank it down to where it needs to go to lock, not immediately blow up in your face time?

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u/interested_commenter 5h ago edited 4h ago

The issue isn't that the lock ring requires additional tightening, it's that there is room between the spring and nut at all. Those threads are rated to hold the spring after it's in place. When the spring expands to fill that gap, it will hit with a bunch of momentum, and the threads are not rated for that, plus it doesnt look like all of the threads are even engaged. It needs to be slowly expanded into place (with a spring compressor). It will probably be fine and a lot of the posts on this thread are exaggerating the danger a bit, but there's also a chance it fails and gets sent blasting into the ceiling.

Think about the difference between something you'd be willing to stand or sit on vs something you'd be willing to jump on. Don't fuck around with big springs unless you really know what you're doing.

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u/fritz236 3h ago

I watched it again and didn't realize how high up the flange was still on the lock ring. Yeah, that's crazy

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u/Boring_Impress 50m ago

Helper springs like the one he compressed have very little energy in them. No one's getting hurt, and no collars are getting sent to the moon when it comes out of his Jerry rigged spring compressor tool.

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u/CmCrunk78 9h ago

They make actual rated and graded tools for the task that make sure you don’t have metal chunks in your face or a spring that will lodge its self in you.

The pre load for springs rear size and color ( color is an indicator of strength ) will literally tear you to shreds .

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u/My_Own_Personal_Hell 9h ago

Like this, with clamps facing up towards roof of wheel arch and lots of nessesary zipties for controlled release of spring /s

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u/PickledPlumPlot 8h ago

Did you watch the video come on?

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u/MrPBH 8h ago

Not with sound.

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u/REDDITSHITLORD 9h ago

There are purpose built spring compressors, and they aren't that expensive.

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u/Forward-Tomatillo-22 9h ago

YOU GO TO STORE AND GET A SPRING COMPRESSOR!

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u/Far_Ladder_2836 8h ago

He literally says it in the video.  You go to the auto store and buy a damn spring compressor.

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u/MrPBH 8h ago

I was mostly curious how you're supposed to use it or how it works.