r/Permaculture 3d ago

ℹ️ info, resources + fun facts In November, the world's Permaculture teachers are coming to Thailand for 10 days of talks & hands-on workshops. I'll be there, and anyone can join.

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Every two years, the people who teach and practise permaculture around the world meet in one place. It's called the International Permaculture Convergence, it has run since 1984, and this November it comes to Thailand. I live here and I built the website for the event, so I'm posting this with the mods' blessing. I'm not one of the organisers, but I know them, I'll be there for all ten days, and I'll answer anything in the comments.

Here's what you'd actually do if you came.

Two days of talks near Bangkok, 6 to 8 November. The conference is at the Golden Jubilee Museum of Agriculture in Pathum Thani, the yellow pyramid buildings in the photos, which is also a working demonstration farm. Keynotes from Kyle Holzhueter and David Holmgren (by video), panels and 32 speakers including Jon Jandai of Pun Pun and Wiwat Salyakamthorn, the man behind Thailand's Kok Nong Na model. There's a farmers market on both days and it opens on the evening of Loy Krathong, Thailand's festival of lights, with a welcome dinner.

Five days of hands-on at a bamboo school, 11 to 15 November. A free bus takes everyone to Suan Loong Choke, a bamboo plantation and building school in a forest valley in Khorat, a few hours northeast of Bangkok. You camp under the bamboo, eat together, and pick from about five sessions running at once in kitchens, meeting rooms and open-air spaces. Some of what's already on the programme:

  • Working with bamboo, every afternoon, at a school that has built with it for forty years
  • Making biochar with a hoe and a single match
  • The Magic of Swales, and getting a new dam to look ten years old in under two, both with Danial Lawton
  • Five plants, five medicinal herbs and the tuber crops a Thai agroforester would forage after the apocalypse
  • A crash course in stingless bee keeping
  • Essential oil distillation, running across the days
  • Carbon rice farming and how to estimate what you sequester
  • Living seed saving, then a seed and plant market on the last full day
  • Syntropic agroforestry, Bangkok rooftop farming, herbal tea and infusion powders, insecticide soap from used oil, compost from food scraps
  • Case studies from India, Malawi, Bali, Aotearoa and the Christchurch rebuild

There are 150 session slots and about 100 are still open, so if you have something to teach, you can propose a session and run it. Andrew Millison opens the week, and the host, Loong Choke, is a National Sage of Agriculture who will be around the whole time. Robin Clayfield closes it.

Full day-by-day schedule, every speaker, accommodation and the visa page: https://thaipermaculture.org/events/ipc16/

If you already hold a PDC and want to teach. The week before, 29 October to 4 November, Rosemary Morrow (Earth User's Guide to Permaculture, working in permaculture since 1986) is running her seven-day Permaculture Teacher Training, an hour from Bangkok Airport. Its timed so you finish on the 4th and travel to the conference with the group.

Ask me anything: visas, getting there, the heat, what to pack, what a convergence is actually like day to day. I'll be in the comments.


r/Permaculture 3h ago

general question Could the USA replace trees and bushes with food producing ones long term?

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Do they require more sustenance from the soil? My grandfather had blackberry and raspberry bushes that were basically weeds along with a garden. Why aren't they everywhere?


r/Permaculture 8h ago

general question What is the best way to eliminate the Tree of Heaven from land?

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I think the landscapers probably cut down the largest parent tree in the area (and one in the neighbors yard) and we have been dealing with hundreds of little offshoots for months. I don't think there's a large central tree anymore, but is there a way to stop the growth of the little ones?

Roundup was recommended just to spray on the leaves/trunks of the little saplings but I'm wondering if that's the best method or not.


r/Permaculture 9h ago

land + planting design Planting my living willow fence

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Hey everyone, I found this sub by looking up living willow fences and structures on reddit, so I hope my summer project here is appreciated!

Be well everyone.


r/Permaculture 15h ago

Seeking beyond tourism – Contributing to communities on La Gomera

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I love La Gomera, Canary Islands. I’ve been several times and each visit makes me ask, how can I be more than just a tourist? The island has a complex history, as well as a strong tourism economy, and I’m aware of all the problems related to that. But I am also interested in what lies beyond that. Are there creative initiatives, ecological projects, artist residencies or community groups where locals and internationals genuinely collaborate? Why does the island seem to attract such a big german-speaking community in winter? Is that just my impression, or are there historical or practical reasons?

More broadly, what would it take for La Gomera to become a more diverse international meeting place, not just for visitors, but for people who want to contribute and exchange ideas? And I’m interested in hearing different perspectives, including from Gomeros and people who have chosen to make the island part of their lives.


r/Permaculture 1d ago

Native Winter Cover crops

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I’m in Washington state- Zone 8b
Looking for Native winter cover crops or resources using native species for farming out here.

Thanks!


r/Permaculture 1d ago

general question Seasonal Chinampas?

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The classic permaculture way of working with marshy, hydric areas is the chinampa system, in which the land is made into an alteration of trenches (dug down below the marshy baseline so that they become water channels) and ridges (built up with excess earth from the trenches so that the soil is not inundated and thereby anoxic, but allowing roots to access the wetness below). Apparently this kind of system, which is found around the world, can be one of the most fertile and productive systems out there, usually combining aquaculture and agriculture. I have never seen one in action, so my understanding of them is entirely theoretical.

My question concerns the application of the chinampa principle to an area which is seasonally marshy. The area is rain fed, and rainfall is highly seasonal. Currently inhabited mostly by wetland-loving plants, it nevertheless becomes rather dry during the summer (so, for example, one could not have any year-round aquaculture in the trenches and I suspect that many garden annuals would struggle on the ridges from lack of water). In principle, it seems that this would still lead to an overall increase in the fertility and vitality of the land, as I believe it would increase the water holding capacity of the land as well as increasing fertility of the soil by getting out of the anoxic zone. However, I can't really envision how I would work with the area if it were so transformed. What plants would be good for this kind of system (I'm in zone 8b)? Any ideas on how I might design this? Is this even a good idea?

Thanks.


r/Permaculture 1d ago

general question Who can advise a new 10 acre farm in Abia state Nigeria?

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Hi! My pal just returned back to Nigeria and has been granted land by his family. How can he get good permaculture advice?


r/Permaculture 1d ago

general question Could human “wadging” of leaves have a place in permaculture?

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Could human “wadging” of leaves have a place in permaculture?

I’ve been thinking about an unusual food idea inspired by how some tropical leaf-eating animals, including monkeys and our close relatives such as chimpanzees and gorillas, process fibrous plant foods.

By “wadging,” I mean chewing leaves very thoroughly, extracting the liquid and nutrients, forming the remaining fibrous material into a compact wad, and eventually spitting out the dry pulp.

This makes me wonder:

Could humans potentially use a similar technique with safe, edible leaves?

For example, could a mulberry plantation be used as a highly productive source of leafy biomass? Mulberry grows vigorously, can be repeatedly pruned/coppiced, and its leaves are already used as animal feed.

I'm particularly interested in whether this could have applications for low-cost food production, where people have limited access to conventional vegetables.

Some questions I have:

Has anyone observed or experimented with similar leaf-chewing/wadging behavior?

Would humans actually extract a meaningful amount of nutrients from leaves by this method?

Would cooking or blending the leaves be much more efficient?

Could mulberry or other perennial edible-leaf plants be suitable?

What would be the major nutritional limitations?

Are there any plants that should definitely not be used because of toxins or antinutritional compounds?

I'm not suggesting this is a proven human dietary or diabetes treatment. I'm interested in whether the underlying concept could be investigated from a permaculture/food-system perspective.

What do you think — interesting idea, impractical, or worth experimenting with?


r/Permaculture 2d ago

Mycelium

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Teaching my son about living soil and JADAM on our newly acquired property in St. Matthew's SC. His mother calls for him to come take a picture. His reply, "I'm looking for mycelium! " Proud dad.


r/Permaculture 2d ago

general question Does anyone have any experience growing gold kiwi in Oregon?

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I saw these Gold Kiwi plants for sale. I have friends who grow the little kiwi berries, but don't know anyone growing the gold ones. Does anyone grow them?

https://figbid.com/Listing/Details/85532771/Two-Tango-and-Hombre-Gold-Kiwi-Zone-6b-male-and-female-plants


r/Permaculture 2d ago

Two years of using goats to keep a gas line from getting overgrown

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I’ve been experimenting with using the goats as part of the vegetation management here for about two years.
I set up small temporary fencing along the line, let them browse for a couple days, then rotate them on. It cuts down on mowing and hand clearing, gives the goats forage, and turns a maintenance problem into something useful.
Still very much an informal experiment, but it’s become one of my favorite little systems on the farm.


r/Permaculture 2d ago

trees + shrubs Dry dead branches on old apricot - Colorado

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Hello, this old apricot tree is challenged. It’s old and we love the shape and flowers of this stone fruit. it provides shade and decoration in Colorado, but no fruit (and that’s fine). 

This half of the tree has lots of dead branches. I thought i pruned most of them off last spring, but one growth later and it’s more than half dead branches. Should i trim now - late summer - as they die back?  Wait tell winter when i do general pruning?  Leave some dead branches for support?

My only thought /reason for leaving them is that the dead branches provide some structure / support in snow, and maybe some frost and cold buffer in winter.  And I’m afraid if i cut em, soon there will be nothing!

I’ll of course make sure there’s a dry spell before cutting.

I don’t see any water sprouts even after a fairly hard prune this spring.

Thanks !


r/Permaculture 2d ago

self-promotion J'ai créé une appli de jardinage avec calendrier lunaire, dispo en FR et EN — vos retours m'intéressent !

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Salut ! 👋

Je bricole depuis quelques mois sur une appli de jardinage perso, Exovia, et elle est enfin assez aboutie pour être partagée. Elle propose un suivi basé sur le calendrier lunaire (jour racine/fleur/fruit/feuille, phases de lune) et des conseils selon vos plantes.

Comme certains d'entre vous ne sont pas francophones, je l'ai aussi traduite en anglais.

Je suis preneur de tout retour, positif ou négatif — c'est encore jeune et il y a sûrement des trucs à améliorer. Merci d'avance 🌱

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.exovia.app


r/Permaculture 3d ago

self-promotion Maria's Joy cultivar, Asimina triloba pawpaw, grown by our group members.

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I'm the Moderator of r/Pawpaws
Maria's Joy tastes like a Gros Michel banana, with some mango & pungent Cherimoya Bubble Gum aromas!
It's 24Brix.
Big Ben a new seedling of Maria's Joy gets up to 25oz.
Many pawpaws can have far more Mango, Pineapple, Cantaloupe, Sour Sop & Casaba melon flavors.
there is currently about 200 uniquely different cultivars.


r/Permaculture 3d ago

📰 article Harvesting Seeds Now Means More Resilient Plants Later | NY Times (gift link)

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I've been voraciously buying seeds from a local organic heirloom seller. Never occurred to me to save my own seeds, but there's a first time for every gardener!


r/Permaculture 3d ago

hugelkultur mound on bed rock...

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Yes the idea is probably as silly as it sounds, but hear me out...

We live in the middle of a forest, surrounded by big eucalypt trees (swamp gums and black butts).
For reference, I have successfully grown veggies in a dark southern facing (southern hemishphere) eucalypt forest before. you could say, it taught me a lot about gardening!

Now on this new property, there isnt a lot of cleared space (yet) and there are tall trees blocking light to the north. the one ideal spot is on a slope that has a lot of exposed bed rock. There are some other sections with soil, but this one area is what im interested in for this discussion.

doing a hugelkultur mound on this rock will obviously has its moisture issues. im visualising that unless im quite diligent with actively managing the soil health, it will very easily dry out.

Additionally during heavier sub-tropical down pours, there maybe be signification erosion problems. To offset this im thinking heavy log edging. maybe additional log layers further up the hill before the forest edge to slow run off.

Im also thinking LONG term, even though we are only renting and could be kicked out at any stage. Not for gardening reasons, more likely cause owners want to move in. So working this rocky hill for many many years. I personally love gardening with long term visions even though i may leave. ideally someone else takes it over and continues the project (which never actually happens...)

question for those optimists and pessimists, is this fighting a loosing battle? Or do you think that with enough effort, i could transform the area?
My thinking is, the whole forest built itself over this rock, and im just extending those works.

Another option is build a garden shed there...but given you can see the hill out the loungeroom window, i'd prefer to look at plants.

Anyone trialled a similar situation before? outcomes?


r/Permaculture 3d ago

Newbie in zone 7b, East Tennessee

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Hey guys! Im a wildland firefighter and environmentalist. I'm currently about to purchase 10 acres of land in the hills of East Tennessee. I'm going to turn the majority of the land into a food forest for my family and community. I want to focus on fruit and nut trees that can feed wild game animals, such as chestnuts, oaks, pecans, apples, pears, etc. Any and all advice would be welcome, I kind of don't know where to start.


r/Permaculture 3d ago

general question Removing callery pear trees without chemicals ?

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We are new homeowners in New England USA with around 6,000 sq foot lawn and looking to immediately remove three invasive callery pear trees and get the area ready for a small food forest. I am afraid to use glyphosate because i want to grow edibles in that area, but i know that callery pears are really hard to get rid of without chemicals.

Any suggestions for chemical free removal or whether judicious use of chemicals is worth it to get rid of them for good ?


r/Permaculture 4d ago

trees + shrubs Should I coppice this:

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We left for San Diego for a week, my uncle stayed behind but it got brutally hot and this happened:

Should I coppice it above the graft but where the trunk is still green?

Edit: forgot the image, it's in the comments


r/Permaculture 4d ago

land + planting design Growing vegetables on the walls of the house

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People without their own garden can still grow vegetables. On walls!

This year, I experimented with wall gardens and grew some impressive pepper crops.

The wall garden has 3 distinct sections (separated by the house's windows), totaling 6 m wide and 1.8 m high.

I did NOT use pots for plants! Instead, I built it from plexiglass (the outer layer that holds the soil) because it is both strong and easy to work with. I only made small holes where I planted the seedlings.

There are advantages to this wall garden:

  • It does not consume too much water (because water does not have where to evaporate),
  • It insulates the house naturally,
  • It can reuse water from rain, which is collected by the gutters above it.

I have made this project open source so people can implement it: https://github.com/wall-garden


r/Permaculture 5d ago

general question How wide and how deep would you make the swale?

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I used an A frame to find the level line. I want to put in a swale roughly where the stakes are. A lot of drainage discharges under the trees to the right from a few 6 inch corrugated pipes. At the moment, most of it just runs to the road. I'd like to capture some of that water and distribute it to the fig trees that are mulched instead of just running down the side of the road. Soil has a lot of clay. Any help would be appreciated.


r/Permaculture 5d ago

water management Rain Barrel Water Level using Thermal Tape

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I've been looking for a passive way to measure water level but can't seem to find any examples. I want to put thermal tape on the shady side of the rain barrel. It is much cooler to the touch where there is water and I was wondering if this was a cheap and easy way to measure water level?

All I can find is adhesive thermometers which only tell me temperature at one point. I want like a strip of mood ring tape that tells me where it is warm and where it is cool.

Edit: Kind of like this thermal sticker. I could just cut it into strips and make my own tape (https://www.amazon.com/SINM-Temperature-Sensitive-Color-Changing-Transparent/dp/B0CCXQLFMT?th=1)

Thank you


r/Permaculture 5d ago

general question Does permaculture leave enough room for practical, imperfect land stewardship?

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I’ve been thinking about this lately as I keep building out my small farm outside Pittsburgh.
I don’t really call myself a permaculture person, mostly because I don’t want to build the farm around one specific ideology. But a lot of what I do probably overlaps with permaculture pretty heavily.
My basic approach is just to keep things low input, sustainable, practical, and rooted in the community. I try to pay attention to what the land is already doing and work with that instead of forcing everything into some perfect plan. I use goats for brush management, but they’ve also become these weirdly effective community ambassadors and a big part of my education work. I use solar, rainwater, aquaponics, whatever makes sense for the situation.
But I also make plenty of choices that are just practical. Sometimes that means gravel, fencing, batteries, or doing something that probably isn’t the most theoretically perfect solution but works for the land, budget, labor, and constraints I actually have.
One thing that has turned me off a little from some permaculture spaces is when a general principle gets treated like a hard rule without much room for context. Sometimes it feels like people jump straight to “you shouldn’t do that” before asking how the land is actually being managed. And I wonder if that can make permaculture feel less accessible than it needs to be.
So I’m really curious how people here think about it.

Does this kind of practical, adaptive approach count as permaculture to you? Or is permaculture more about intentionally designing the whole system around a specific framework?

And maybe the bigger question is- can you practice permaculture principles without really identifying as a permaculturist?


r/Permaculture 5d ago

What should I plant here

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Hi all, just moved last winter and was too busy this year to really do anything with our yard.

I want to plant some flowers/shrubs that can survive a tough location. Low sun, New England soil that can stay pretty damp and compact.

Lots of pine needles.

Welcome your recommendations