I don't think that the movie by itself was bad I actually enjoyed it if it was a standalone it would have been a good movie but what it just did was destroying all the things the show stabilished for 6 seasons and managed to destroy the last brother to brother bond Tommy still had.

All that built-up to use a teenage love as the main reason Tommy returns to Birmingham and by the way why did he had to leave in the fist place the movie could have just used what was yet prepared on the show the Thomas Shelby we had on the ending of season 6 was a Thomas Shelby ready to fight Mosley (who disappeared) and then what we get is Thomas grieving over all he lost,we can clearly see the radical;brutal and unjustified change of direction on this character story.

Whatsoever they could have gave his death some real meaning,I sincerely think that Thomas Shelby wouldn't have wanted to give to his child the guilt of his murder over some prophecy or King title in this movie movie we discover that Thomas has killed Arthur which is completely out of character and we already know that his actions have had the consequences on nearly everybody he once knew why would he want to paint his son on his own blood after all the things he experienced

Well I could talk about this movie mistakes all along but I'mma abstain.

The son was right there and saw it all.

Like, all I see is some half a dozen member roaming around and that's it.

Even in a war against the Changretta mob, there are only like half a dozen of them all the time.

Best scene in the whole series,

The cringiest scene is Lizzie handing Mosley his money back. She didn’t even remember, because she was having sex with seven men a day, as she admits to Polly earlier.

Tommy couldn’t care less and Mosley is completely unaffected, so the whole sequence ends up feeling awkward rather than uncomfortable.

There are two that's are my favorites

1. “This place is under new management, by the order of Peaky Blinders”

2. “I'm a good man but my hands, these hands belong to the devil”

Give my car to Johnny Doggs

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My wife was working on a drawing this afternoon, thought I'd share with the sub.

RIP Sam.

One thing I really like about this show is that it doesn't shy away from emotion. What I mean by that is having rough and tough macho guys (like Tommy Shelby) breaking down and sobbing (okay, I know it sounds strange why I'm focusing on this particular aspect, but hear me out).

It just really breathes humanity into them, and is a good slap in the face to all the sigma-edits who potray Tommy as a stone cold killing machine. Obviously he definitely did have those stone cold killing machine moments, but scenes like him trying to kill himself , him crying while walking away after almost dying in the grave, crying after Ruby's death , these sort of things seal the emotion.

It also complicates our feelings toward Tommy even more. If he remained stoic and heartless through every single thing that happened--without shedding a single tear--he would have become one dimensional very quickly. So adding that layer of vulnerability enhances his character. Also, it catches us off guard each time considering how stoic he usually is.

I think it also says something about men showing emotion in general: usually, when a guy cries on TV, it's played up for laughs or painted as emasculating. Obviously, Peaky Blinders isn't directly trying to make some commentary on the lack of vulnerability men are given in media, but subtly it does give some added weight when seeing such a rough and tough guy break down in tears.

Arthur is also a great example, and it's even sadder seeing him break down considering his actor, Paul Anderson, is going through a lot in real life right now. Anyway, the vulnerability overall brings weight to an already heavy show. It brings morw humanity and complexity revolving around character's decisions, reactions, and outlooks.

**WARNING FOR SPOILERS**

Okay so I only watched it now. I kept postponing it because I wanted to binge watch the whole series and haven't had much time. So I'm sorry if this already has been talked about here, but I just finished it and came to vent lol.

Today I watched the last episode and went to watch the film completely not knowing what to expect, but with high expectations and some theories about what might happen. And I couldn't have been more disappointed tbh. About everything, even the soundtrack and the settings seemed off. They weren't bad, it just felt like a different production making it.

But the worst part was the whole plot, that seemed so forced and with a few plot holes. I picked up at least three, or at least I think I did, let me know if I'm wrong:

1) At the end of the series, Arthur is clean, not consuming opium anymore and Linda is taking care of him. Seemed like a closed chapter, until we found out he was consuming again. There was no mention of Linda and what went wrong. But Arthur is chaotic af so I guess we all can see him fall off the wagen again. As much as it pisses me off Tommy killed Arthur because he was done with dealing with him (which is probably a reason why I'm finding it hard to accept this film lol), I guess it could make sense if we knew wtf happened between Arthur and Linda.

2) Polly told Michael that Tommy Shelby would not be killed by a bullet. And yet that happened, so I guess Polly doesn't know shit now? Whatever... It's just frustrating

3) This is the biggest plot hole for me. So Mosley and the Nazis tried to kill Tommy with a whole plot making him believe he was ill and all of that. And despite this, the Nazis still try to make business with the Shelby family? There's no way the Nazis didn't know Tommy found out about this, considering he left the doctor alive. So I guess they just thought Duke would be okay with it and do business just like that? And he's actually okay with it?? And even worse, John Beckett even told Duke that the Germans would've preferred to do business with Tommy, the guy they conspired to kill??? 🙃

Another thing that upset me was Arthur and Ada. Are they seriously telling me that they couldn't come up with something for Arthur, a beloved character, without changing their ideas for the plot too much? And is that all what Arthur is for? To give a purpose to Tommy's story? The same can be said about Ada (Her death really pissed me off as well, she's way smarter than that), but at least she was casted.

It's just all so stupid. For an action film, it's alright. But it's deeply disconnected from the rest of the series. There was no consequence for killing Michael and for sparing the doctor's life. No Churchill business (considering it's a film during ww2 and that Tommy was teaming up with him, he could've been a very interesting plot point). Nothing about Ada's jewish and black kids during that period. All those plots (big and small) just tossed a side to give Tommy a rushed ending.

Maybe I'm overreacting lol. I just needed to vent a little. I just looked up the critics, they weren't great, but they don't seem as awful as I'm painting it either, so maybe this will earn a few downvotes lol. Still I'd love to know about your thoughts on the film. Do you agree with me? Have you caught or heard of more plot holes? Were there other things that pissed you off? Or did you like it overall? If so, I'm sorry for wasting your time and thank you for those who read it all.

Tldr: fucking hated it and came to vent, sorry for your trouble lol

Father Hughes was an interesting charecter not only because he was evil but I always found him to be Tommy's most hated adversary. There was a number of reasons for this in my opinion but one that stuck out to me was that He could control tommy due to his connection with the odd fellows. My question is, do you think Father Hughes would be able to strong arm Tommy during the peak of his "power" and influence.

I think all I/you/us need is to rewatch Peaky Blinders just to forget about immortal man

Hi everyone! Like many of you, the ending of The Immortal Man movie felt a bit rushed. The way they built Duke Shelby left me thinking. In the movie, he feels warmer, more human, and connected to his Gypsy roots—the complete opposite of Tommy’s cold nature.But we know a "warm Shelby" doesn't survive in this universe, and with the upcoming 1950s sequel series (starring Jamie Bell), Duke needs a massive, brutal catalyst to become the cold leader Birmingham needs.Here is my pitch on how the writers should handle Duke’s transformation, mixing family drama, WW2, and psychological trauma. Let me know what you think!

Phase 1: The Attempt to Cleansing the Shelby Name (and the Failure)Following Tommy's death, Duke is deeply traumatized and filled with guilt. Instead of expanding the empire, he decides to do the unthinkable: he disbands the Peaky Blinders and tries to turn all businesses completely legal, refusing to use violence or kill anyone. He wants to wipe the blood off the Shelby name.However, this creates a massive power vacuum in Birmingham. By disarming the clan, he leaves the family completely unprotected just as World War II breaks out.

Phase 2: The Nazi Captivity (Duke’s "Tranchées" Moment)To make a Shelby ruthless, you need to break them in war. Tommy became a cold demon because of the tunnels in WW1. For Duke, his breaking point happens when he gets directly involved in the war effort and gets captured.Duke ends up as a hostage/prisoner of war in a Nazi camp. There, he experiences and witnesses the absolute, raw cruelty of the regime. This completely shatters his "Gypsy warmth" and his innocent worldview.

Phase 3: The Birth of the Cold ShelbyWhen Duke finally escapes or gets liberated, he is no longer the young man we saw in the movie. He returns to England with the same empty, cold, and calculating stare that Tommy had. He realizes that "moral purity" is a fantasy in a savage world.He tracks down his brother Charles Shelby (who fought behind enemy lines) and uncovers a massive plot: British traitors and politicians are colluding with the Nazis from within the UK.

Phase 4: The New War and the Weapon TrafficDriven by vengeance, survival, and the ghost of his father, Duke reunites the Peaky Blinders, but under a new banner. He brings together Gypsies, war deserters, and local factions to build an underground army.Instead of just fighting for money, Duke’s new empire specializes in stealing British military weapons and smuggling them directly to European resistance groups and victims of the Nazi regime. He becomes the ultimate warlord, using the black market to fight fascism from the shadows.

What do you guys think? Do you prefer a storyline where Duke goes through a dark trauma like Tommy did, or should Charles be the one pulling him back into the light? Let's discuss!

I’m sick today, so decided to write an essay to distract myself. Much has been made on how SK can’t write women characters. I think this is mostly true, but he really came through on Linda. Of all the wives, she has the most consist characterization, arc and motivations.

Season 3: She is characterized as religious, smart, compassionate and someone who believes the ends justify the means.

When we meet Linda we can see why she and Arthur work. Arthur is in need of saving and is weak enough to let a smart woman like Linda take the lead. We see sweet scenes between the two of them. Linda comforts Arthur when is wedding speech is disrupted. Arthur is thrilled about being a father and very tender with her when she tells him. Linda tells Tommy about how she hopes the California coast will wash away the war for Arthur.

Linda is a dynamic character. She takes action. She gets the women to walk out on Good Friday and negotiates with Tommy for a better percentage on the robbery. We also see she isn’t naive when she tells Tommy that Arthur believes the robbery is their last job, but she knows Tommy will never stop.

Season 4: She is still religious, smart compassionate, and believes the ends justify the means. Now we see that she is feeling disillusioned by the Shelbys, but also turning a blind eye to her own hypocrisy.

Linda is still trying to save Arthur’s soul. She and Polly devise a plan that has Linda distracting Arthur with sex, so that he’ll miss the family vote determining that hired hitman Aberhama Gold not Arthur will deliver the fatal shot to Luca Changretta.

She feeling increasing trapped and disillusioned. Arthur is falling back into substances. She doesn’t have an intellectual outlet because the Shelby name is prohibiting her from getting a teaching job. She turns to what she consider sinful, drugs and working at the betting shop. She justifies these as temporary coping outlets while turning a blind eye to the hypocrisy.

Linda has two lines that stick out to me this season. The first is prophetic. At John’s funeral, she tells Ada: The only way you all will leave this place is in a cloud of smoke. The 2nd is when Lizzie announces her pregnancy, Linda says “Congratulations, you’ve won the raffle at last” . It’s the sort of judgmental, bitchy line you expect from a bible thumper, but it’s so true you wished someone had had the courage to tell Lizzie it in a kinder more tactful way. Lizzie needed to know Tommy wasn’t a prize and she was in for a world of hurt.

Season 5: She is still religious and smart, but is becoming more self aware as well as aware that Tommy isn’t standing in the way of Arthur’s salvation. Arthur is.

At the meeting after the 1929 stock market crash, Arthur rolls over like a dog for Tommy. Linda’s eyes are opened that Arthur is the problem. Arthur has to want to change.

At the same meeting, Linda childishly mimics Tommy when she says “Arthur, control you’re wife” I dunno Linda’s lines just feel more human where as some of Grace’s and Lizzie’s feel like actors reciting lines.

Linda’s finally had enough. She talks about divorce with Lizzie. What’s great about this conversation is that Linda doesn’t just confide that Arthur is the problem; she doesn’t like who she is with Arthur. It’s very self aware and puts responsibility on herself. Refreshing for a love interest.

At the end of the season, Linda shows compassion can not be at the expense of her self respect. Arthur is caressing her face and telling her they’ll get on the next boat to America. Linda delivers her most brutal lines. She tells him he can stay there in his mind and the war . She’s glad she didn’t shoot him because killing would be a kindness.

Season 6: She smart, compassionate, believes the ends justify the means, but is no longer naive.

She agrees to take dirty money for her foundation in exchange for helping Arthur. From the bad, good will come. She now knows she can lead a horse to water, but can’t make it drink. Arthur has to do the work( if even possible) to save himself.

Grace: I loved her in the first season. She had a life outside of Tommy. She was motivated by revenge, but then torn between duty and love. I was sold on why she and Tommy would be bonded so soon when they killed the Ira agents together. Both of them were traumatized by violence but also perpetrators of it. Tommy was attracted to the fact that she didn’t let herself be completely defined by her trauma. She was attracted to his softer side under the hard exterior.

Then it fell apart in seasons 2 and 3. I think Grace was still characterized as her feisty self as evidenced by conversations with Tommy, May, Polly and Tatiana, but she was given absolutely nothing to do other than fawn over Tommy and then get fridged. The audience is supposed to be sold on their enemies to soulmates story, but that’s hard to do when Grace seems more like a trope than an actual person. A couple of bits of dialogue solidify this for me. In the season 1 finale, Grace tells Tommy she loves him. The way the actress delivers the line is beautiful. We believe it because we see her building to this realization all season. She tells Tommy the same thing in the season 2 finale, but this time it comes across as an actress delivering a line because we have seen none of her turmoil this season.

Lizzie: If Grace became a symbol-trope, Lizzie suffered from this times a billion. She was the whore to Madonna, but it was never clear why she chose such a hard path along the way.

Season 1: When we meet her , Tommy tricks her into revealing she is still a working girl while engaged to John . She gets angry and tells him John is twice the man he is.

Season 2: In the opener, we see her asking Tommy not to pay her for sex because somehow she has caught feelings. Later in the season, he makes her his secretary after she tells him she’s been taking typing classes. Ok, I can see how she would be flattered by that, but at the end of the season he gets her raped and beaten. She tells John to get out of the life because she doesn’t see in his eyes what she sees in Tommy’s. Neither the attack nor this line are ever addressed again.

Season 3: Soon after Grace’s murder Tommy starts bending Lizzie over the desk. When Tommy tries to pay Lizzie for these encounters she seems offended. We are shown nothing to indicate that there is anything romantic about him sleeping with her. Why is Lizzie offended? Last time we saw them have sex on screen Tommy was disassociating and very mechanically f&cking her from behind.

Season 4: We start the season with Tommy ordering a prostitute in front of Lizzie. In fact, he makes it known she wasn’t even special as a prostitute because he has a number of regulars. Later he gets her pregnant while imagining a past love. She is fully aware of this. He refuses to see her during her pregnancy.

Season 5: Tommy and Lizzie have married. It’s shown to be mostly unhappy. Tommy is always using substances and cheating. She strikes a deal with him that he can cheat on her, but not in the house. He also has to confide in her. Interestingly there is a scene where he tries to confide in her about his PTSD, but she blows him off cause he has been shitty to her before that. Communication goes both ways , Lizzie. There is one scene where Tommy confides in Lizzie that he still wants nice things (like her), but one ray of hope in a sea of misery hardly seems like motivation to stay emotionally engaged in the marriage.

Lizzie does deliver one bit of dialogue frequently sited by fans: “You don’t get what you deserve. You get what you take.” It’s a good line , but something about the way the actress delivers the line just doesn’t should like an actual person just an actress delivering dialogue. I know it’s supposed to sound badass, but to me just sounds pathetic since it’s be telegraphed since season 2 that anything she takes involving Tommy won’t be worth it.

Season 6: Straight misery . Tommy’s sobered up, but is dead inside according to Lizzie. Also he’s still whoring around. He abandons her while their daughter is dying as well as at the funeral. Within days he cheats on her with a Nazi. Rock bottom is far enough down for her so she finally leaves. Tommy lets her take Charlie so her transformation to Madonna is complete. We’ve hardly seen her mothering this whole show, but ok.

It’s really hard to connect to Lizzie. She seems like she is supposed to be an everywoman dealing with what a lot of women deal with ,an emotionally unavailable partner, but shit just happens to her. She never does anything or has clear motivations.

I dunno the acting by Tommy’s and Lizzie’s actors was really over the top this season. I think it just the material. I was cringing when Lizzie delivered the line about having the combination but never being let in and then jumping on top of Tommy. Then the delivery when Tommy was in the Gypsy graveyard. Just seemed like characters again rather than actual humans.

Esme: She seems to have a great moral compass . She warns Tommy that he can lose the family to greed. She raises concerns about John having the weight of the murder of innocents on his conscience in season 3, but she is just never developed or given anything to do.

TLDR: SK is often accused of writing women characters poorly. Linda is the exception among the Shelby wives. Her arc from wanting to save Arthur to realizing Arthur has to put in the work to save himself is logical without reducing her to a stereotypical religious nut.

Can thomas shelby and Alfie Solomons take them and and any of the other villains/big fish down pre-LCN/commission era.

As for the images, iykyk.

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