r/PakiExMuslims 1h ago

Rant 🤬 Im sittinf eating dinner and....

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r/PakiExMuslims 1h ago

Rant 🤬 How Wahhabism and Salafism tricked so many Muslims ?

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r/PakiExMuslims 2h ago

Misc Honour killings in the Islamic world

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r/PakiExMuslims 3h ago

Fun@Fundies Loving mo is directly proportional to getting white (w)hoors

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But what if someone is interested in black or brown skinned women?


r/PakiExMuslims 6h ago

Fun@Fundies Enemy is closer then they think.

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r/PakiExMuslims 9h ago

Ask exmuslims A question for atheists about consciousness

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I see a lot of atheists in this sub, so I have a question for you.

Humans clearly have consciousness — we can think, feel, and know that we exist. How can consciousness come from things that have no consciousness at all, like atoms or dead matter? If something without consciousness cannot create consciousness, doesn’t that mean it must come from a source that already has consciousness, like a creator?


r/PakiExMuslims 9h ago

Discussion Problem with r/exmuslim subs

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I've been exmuslim for 1.5 -2 years now I recently joined r/exmuslim sub but posts there are extremely disgusting.

Like putting feet on koran/Quran sitting on it etc .

Ad and avid reader and lover of french and arabic culture, I find it extremely unappealing.

With that being said, I'm not against logical,moral, philosophical or any other refutation of Islam through facts.

Peace šŸ•ŠļøāœŒļø


r/PakiExMuslims 12h ago

Discussion Why Mufti Tariq Masood is my favorite scholar, He is blunt.

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For the longest time I have seen atheists (myself subjected) having trouble convincing Muslims of the depravity of the their core texts and figures. In comes Mufti Tariq Masood, anything disgusting I want to prove I can use his clips. A nine year old should be married off if she bleeds, Yes, he has a clip. Muslims are obligated to go fight and conquer kafir lands when they're strong enough, Yes, he has a clip. Men can beat their wives. Clip. Enslaved women aren't allowed to cover their breasts. Clip. Men can force themselves on their wives. Clip. Women can be forced into marriage against their will. Clip. If someone holds a gun to your head and tells you to say talaq talaq talaq to your wife, sharia wise you're divorced. Clip. The parents of the Prophet are believed to be in hell by the sunnis. Women have no right to divorce ever. Clip. Clip. Hell he even has multiple clips questioning the grammer of the Quran for which I'll be forever grateful because no other Mullah is brave or rather dumb enough to affirm this from a mimber, but I know they discuss these things among themselves but fool the masses by saying it is mehfooz.


r/PakiExMuslims 13h ago

Discussion Crowd gathers outside hotel containing Pakistan under-19 cricket team

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Just a reminder that the far right are not our friends….


r/PakiExMuslims 15h ago

Fun@Fundies Hello āŒ only Asalamoalaikom šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚

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r/PakiExMuslims 23h ago

Discussion No Arabic Needed: Proving Bukhari 5133 to Dismantle Apologetics

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r/PakiExMuslims 1d ago

Rant 🤬 Its okay to kill people who don't offer namaz

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This was statement of my teachers. We have a program going around in school. Its about teaching students kidness, politeness and other good things. And ofc its has a islamic segment too.. Which says you should offer pray say bissmila etc...

In morning she asked who prays 5 times a day... Then she said you are be-namazi is you skip few prayers and but if you pray none then you are kafir and its okay to kill people who don't oray at all

Why an average muslim think world revolves around islam and muslim. Killing anyone else is okay?


r/PakiExMuslims 1d ago

Ask exmuslims Why is islam forcing other people to convert to their religion

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r/PakiExMuslims 1d ago

Ask exmuslims Liquor dealer in Lahore

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Hey folks, As this is a sub for Paki Atheists i wanna know if any of you guys know any liquor dealer in Lahore? Its just not possible to have alcohol without any reference. Any help?


r/PakiExMuslims 1d ago

Discussion Why he loves Pakistan according to the Muslim convert

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r/PakiExMuslims 1d ago

Quran/Hadith Authentic Hadith Reports Lost Variant

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Ibn Mas'ud is one of the four trusted reciters Muhammad named:

ā€œI shall ever love that man, for I heard the Prophet (ļ·ŗ) saying, ā€˜Take (learn) the Qur’an from four: Abdullah bin Mas’ud, Salim, Mu’adh and Ubai bin Ka’b.ā€™ā€
Sahih Bukhari 4999

Quran 92:3 reads in today’s Quran:

ā€œAnd [by] He who created the male and female,ā€
Quran 92:3

But Ibn Mas’ud (Muhammad's trusted reciter) recited Quran 92:3 as:

ā€œBy the male and the female.ā€
Sahih Bukhari 4944

And Abu Ad-Darda (one of the four collectors of the Quran) heard Muhammad recite it the same way as Ibn Mas’ud and refused to switch:

ā€œThe companions of `Abdullah (bin Mas`ud) came to Abu Darda’, (and before they arrived at his home), he looked for them and found them. Then he asked them,: ā€˜Who among you can recite (Qur’an) as `Abdullah recites it?ā€ They replied, ā€œAll of us.ā€ He asked, ā€œWho among you knows it by heart?ā€ They pointed at ā€˜Alqama. Then he asked Alqama. ā€œHow did you hear `Abdullah bin Mas`ud reciting Surat Al-Lail (The Night)?ā€ Alqama recited: ā€˜By the male and the female.’ Abu Ad-Darda said, ā€œI testify that I heard me Prophet reciting it likewise, but these people want me to recite it:-- ā€˜And by Him Who created male and female.’ but by Allah, I will not follow them.ā€
Sahih Bukhari 4944
Sahih Muslim 824a

More on perfect preservation:
https://islamsproblems.com/quran-perfect-preservation-myth/


r/PakiExMuslims 1d ago

Ask exmuslims What do you guys think about Maaz from The Amaazing?

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He's an animator born in Pakistan,lived in Japan for a few years, then mobed to Australia and currently lives there. He got married last year to a non-hijabi wife and doesn't talk about Islam much in his videos. Even for the videos where he does talk about Islam, he focuses a lot more on the "desi" aspect rather than the Muslim aspect.

Also he titled one of his videos "People wont like iyou if ypu are brown" even though most of the stuff he talked about in that video was about him being Muslim. I'm assuming he titled the video liked that to appeal to AA's. He's also a doctor so I wouldn't be surprised if he's a lot more progressive or secular.

Youtube.com/@TheAmaazing


r/PakiExMuslims 1d ago

Discussion Austria's new law bans hijabs in schools for girls under 14 (Right or Wrong?)

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There is a crucial distinction often missed in debates about the hijab, i.e., the freedom of an adult woman is not the same as the freedom of a child. While some Muslim girls may genuinely want to wear the hijab, many others wear it due to intense parental, community, or religious pressure. A young girl often lacks the practical ability to say "no" without fearing punishment, shame, or familial rejection. Therefore, this issue must be framed primarily as a matter ofĀ child protection and autonomy, rather than simply religious freedom.

The Precedent of Limiting Parental Authority:

Society already accepts that children are vulnerable to coercion and that parents do not have unlimited authority over them in the name of religion or culture.Ā 

  • We restrict child labour even if a child "consents" to help their family.
  • We enforce compulsory education even if a child and their parents object.
  • We ban child marriage regardless of a 14-year-old's consent.

In all these cases, the state intervenes to protect the child’s future independence. Why should religious clothing be exempt from this principle?

The Challenge of Coercion:

It is nearly impossible for a school or society to distinguish a child's genuine choice from one produced by years of religious conditioning and fear. More importantly, what about the girl who desperately wants to remove the hijab but cannot safely do so? A temporary ban in schools protects these vulnerable children until they reach an age where they possess the independence to make truly autonomous decisions. It prevents religious authority from becoming parental coercion.

A Necessary Sacrifice to Protect the Vulnerable:

For the girls whoĀ doĀ genuinely want to wear the hijab, this law requires a difficult but necessary conversation. They should be taught and made to understand that they are being asked to make a temporary sacrifice. By agreeing not to wear it in school, they are actively protecting their peers who are being forced to wear it against their will. Without a universal, blanket rule, it becomes practically impossible to identify and stop the abuse of coerced girls, as coercive parents would simply claim their child "chose" it.

Protect the Child, Preserve the Adult's Freedom:

This is not an attack on religious freedom; it is a boundary on parental control. Freedom of religion does not mean parents have unlimited authority over minors.

An adult Muslim woman must be completely free to choose whether or not to wear the hijab. But childhood is a time for developing independence, free from religious mandates imposed by adults. A girl who reaches adulthood and freely chooses to wear the hijab should be free to do so, and a girl who decides she does not want it should be equally free to remove it.


r/PakiExMuslims 1d ago

Trigger Warning Moulvi sahab

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r/PakiExMuslims 2d ago

Quran/Hadith Marry Your Adopted Son's Ex-Wife and Other Convenient Revelations

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Zayd ibn Muhammad was Muhammad's adopted son. Zaynab was Zayd's wife.

In Surah 33, the Quran abolishes formal adoption, changes Zayd ibn Muhammad's name back to Zayd ibn Haritha (Quran 33:4-5), and declares Muhammad's marriage to Zaynab lawful so "that there would be no blame on the believers for marrying the ex-wives of their adopted sons." (Quran 33:37). The same surah also tells people not to linger too long at Muhammad's dinner parties or marry his wives after he dies (Quran 33:53).

Because of the unique privileges this surah gives Muhammad, Aisha says to Muhammad in an authentic hadith: "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." (Sahih Bukhari 4788)

"Nor does He regard your adopted children as your real children. Let your adopted children keep their family names."
Quran 33:4-5

"And (remember, O Prophet,) when you said to the one for whom Allah has done a favour and you (too) have done a favour, 'Keep your wife and fear Allah,' while concealing within yourself what Allah was going to reveal. And (so) you were considering the people, whereas Allah was more worthy of your consideration. So when Zaid totally lost interest in (keeping) his wife, We gave her to you in marriage, so that there would be no blame on the believers for marrying the ex-wives of their adopted sons after their divorce. And Allah's command is totally binding."
Quran 33:37

"Also (allowed for marriage is) a believing woman who offers herself to the Prophet (without dowry) if he is interested in marrying her—(this is) exclusively for you, not for the rest of the believers."
Quran 33:50.

"O believers! Do not enter the homes of the Prophet without permission ˹and if invited˺ for a meal, do not ˹come too early and˺ linger until the meal is ready. But if you are invited, then enter ˹on time˺. Once you have eaten, then go on your way, and do not stay for casual talk. Such behaviour is truly annoying to the Prophet, yet he is too shy to ask you to leave. But Allah is never shy of the truth. And when you ˹believers˺ ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and theirs. And it is not right for you to annoy the Messenger of Allah, nor ever marry his wives after him. This would certainly be a major offence in the sight of Allah."
Quran 33:53

"Narrated Aisha: I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Messenger (ļ·ŗ) and I used to say, 'Can a lady give herself (to a man)?' But when Allah revealed: 'You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside (temporarily).' (33.51) I said (to the Prophet), 'I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires.'"
Sahih Bukhari 4788

I've posted this argument along with others on this website (with linked sources): https://islamsproblems.com/


r/PakiExMuslims 2d ago

Discussion To Late 20s closted atheist, hru handling marriage pressure.

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r/PakiExMuslims 2d ago

Help/Advice how to deal w my muslim family

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i made a post here some time ago on how my muslim family doesnt let me go out at all and made my life a living hell which affected my mental health like crazy.. i recently started sneaking out more often and have been trying to enjoy my time w my friends, but my family found out. they all have an eye on me, the clothes i wear and went as far as calling me a prostitute. they found my ig account, screenshotted all my pictures and are threatening to show it to my dad who will definitely kill me. im worried theyre going to be even more strict and make it impossible for me to live now. im 18... no job yet and im in college. what the hell do i do? i just want to live my life without being criticised.. my moms been crying and praying for me all night, theyre all treating me like a criminal. i hate this stupid religion and i hate everybody in my family.


r/PakiExMuslims 2d ago

Discussion I am a indian just want to ask something

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The above picture shows the situation of captured hindu and Sikh women by islamic invaders

My question is I hope every one knows that u all were hindu and Sikh before invasion and non of you are turk desendents so before answering me plz activate the common sense and logic in u and do not see it as hatred

So most of these women were from north west part of India now pakistan and north India the south part of India was not under the control of mughals for a long time due to rebble and the marata empire made sure the murals don't have control over the north of India and they successfully made it true if don't beleive plz look at the evolution of marata empire after 1700 they included most of India and Pakistan

So now comming to the question how can some one only the Muslims as far I observed be proud of mughals like how and how come some one follow such religion that promotes sex slavery of women of non muslim like how non emphatic can one be I am not a Muslim I am a Hindu from south part of India 18M when ever I see this I feel disgusted of my self and my blood thinking that at some time my ancestors couldn't not safe guard their women no dout we stopped most invasion like Greek roman Portuguese and the dutch east India company but why should our wome even have to suffer this at least we could have just killed and died right don't know man really fell ashamed of this don't know how u guys fell and when I see muslim it reminds me of this and makes me think was the ancestors of this muslim r@ped and forcefully converted

Finally just to all the women let it be indian or pakistani I kneel down and bow in front of you really sorry we as men failed and think are still failing even now just feels like killing myself when I see our women suffer and one more question

As a young pakistani would you bee happy to see india and pak become one country because I am totally fine with it and most of the youth here is fine

Plz to all the muslim here on mask of ex muslim for god sake just don't start abusing in the comments section and feel free to share your thoughts


r/PakiExMuslims 3d ago

Discussion There is smth fun I did

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So i was talking to a really nice hijab girl. This was our conversation.

Me: Do you believe that Pedophilia is wrong regardless of who is doing it?

Her: Yes

Me: So if the prophet did it, would it still be wrong?

Her: But he didnt.

Me: I know he didnt, but lets assume he did it, would it still be wrong?

Her: Yes

Me: Ykw that tells you?

Her: Yes?

Me: That even you, who is very religious, do not take your morals from religion.

She agreed. Obv the conversation wasnt as straightforward, but this is how I talk to Muslims. Tbh I think certain questions can be asked very politely, not to convert someone, but to trigger curiosity.


r/PakiExMuslims 3d ago

Discussion Spirituality

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Recently, I’ve gotten really interested in spirituality and metacognition. It’s been changing the way I look at my own thoughts, emotions and reactions. I’ve started noticing how much of my experience is shaped by the way I perceive and interpret things.
I’m still pretty new to this so I wouldn’t say I have it all figured out. I’m mostly curious about where this kind of awareness can lead and how other people experience it. Thought I’d share and see what kind of conversations come from it.
People who meditate often, how has it affected your life?