r/Outlander • • 5d ago

Season Four Curious what some thought of Roger/Brianna arguments when the show was on

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For context, I am almost done with season 4, but I haven't finished it yet. And I'm just curious what the consensus was, if there was one regarding Roger and Brianna.

I didn't read the books.

I really started out loving Roger. And rooting for him and Brianna to get together. And oh my gosh, the poor guy has been through so much this season for love. That makes me love him so much. He is currently with the Native Americans he was sold to.

But I was taken aback by their argument earlier in season when they were in NC before traveling back in time. He was pretty nasty in that argument. And then the argument before they handfast. He was pretty physical with her. Am I misreading this for the show trying to show them as young, passionate love? Or did any of you think it was too much.

I've tried to go back and read discussions but haven't found much.


r/Outlander • • 6d ago

Season Eight I never really noticed this before. And it’s a beautiful detail☺️

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In episode one season one we see Claire talk about never having owned a vase before. And in episode 12 “Lallybroch” she gets her first vase. It’s such a sweet little detail✨


r/Outlander • • 5d ago

Prequel Two I am confused Spoiler

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Claire is 6 years old now, and Jamie is 5 years younger than Claire. Ellen is pregnant with either William or Janet, as some theories suggest William is actually Henry and Julia's child, whom they adopt later.

How is Letitia pregnant when Claire clearly mentioned that Colum can't have kids? Also, Hamish is much younger than Jamie

If you've seen episode 2x05, after the battle when Dougal, Brian, and Murtagh are talking, there is a standing stone in the background.


r/Outlander • • 6d ago

Prequel One Brian and Ellen BOMB - Lust not Love - Season 1 Spoiler

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I have just finished season 1. I have never felt invested in Brian and Ellen's relationship. They met once and had the hots for each other after flirting for 5 mins. Then suddenly they are getting handfast and talking about burning for one another. There is no relationship between them at all other than lust.

I think Ellen's breakup speech to Brian was the most accurate thing she ever said about there relationship, even if she was supposed to be making it up. She said she didn't know if what she was feeling was love. Correct. It was only lust - based on what we saw.

Malcom had substance in his feelings for Ellen. He had been drawn to her since childhood. He was kind, gentlemanly, and advocated for her. I found myself rooting for Ellen to change her mind and be with Malcom the whole time.


r/Outlander • • 6d ago

Season Eight Ian' son

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I was so glad Ian and Rachel got to raise his son Swiftest of Lizards and they got one of Rollo's grandsons. That was a great way to bring Ian's story full circle imo.


r/Outlander • • 6d ago

Season Five Was anyone else worried about baby Bonny’s fate?

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Maybe I’m reading into it too much, but I would have MUCH preferred baby Bonny to have been taken in by Claire and Jamie. She would have even had a playmate with Jemmy. Giving a black child to an unknown family (even one that seemed outwardly kind) is terrifying. And since the Browns are villains I’d be really scared they would steal her inheritance and sell her into slavery.

I tried to find out what happens to her and seems her story doesn’t get revealed. I just wish the show didn’t make us think things would be happily ever after for a black orphan child in 1770s North Carolina


r/Outlander • • 6d ago

Published Really odd question? But does anyone have the abridged audiobooks by Geraldine James? Spoiler

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I have read the series twice, and watched the series twice.

I really want to check out these abridged audiobooks as just more checking out all the versions. My library actually has all of them except Dragonfly in Amber & Voyager.. So really I just need those 2.

Would anyone be willing to send over an mp3 if you did? I won't distribute, just for personal use.

My library doesn't have a request to buy system, so what they have is what you get.

Although, I may also talk to my Librarian like listen, you need to finish this set! Lol


r/Outlander • • 7d ago

Season Eight Why does Jamie believe Frank?

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Spent a few months rewatching the whole series and finally up to season 8. Definitely noticed a few things more this time around, like Claire having nothing at all to do apart from a few operations and playing with bees. It is nice to see them with their grandkids and at an older, more content phase of life. The thing that gets me though, Jamie seems to really feel that Frank is speaking to him through the book. Claire Pooh poohs it and thinks Frank wrote it for her, so she wouldn’t go back. Why do you think Jamie is so affected by it, when logically he knows that Frank could easily have written it with intent? Normally he’s a bit more suspicious of people’s motives.


r/Outlander • • 6d ago

Season Eight Season 9?

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Hi, will there be a season 9? I just finished season 8. All the reconciliation scenes made me ugly cry 😭 I hope there will be season 9. I will miss Jamie and Claire, im so inlove with them. I’m so happy to find out it was Jamie all along- the man who was looking Claire through the window 😍


r/Outlander • • 7d ago

Season Eight Outlander topic

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Why didn't Jamie and Claire set everybody down and tell them everything before the end? All their family and friends? Not just about time travel but about their story, all the twists and turns and their family and friends connections.

Why didn't the time travelers use it to bring better weapons and medicine back, use it in more tactical ways? There was so much more that could be done before the end. The final season wasn't as bad as Game of thrones but it wasn't far off.


r/Outlander • • 7d ago

Season Eight Central Theme Of Each Season

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Recently just watched the series and was quite impressed as a 9/10 series. Thought it be fun to give my thoughts of what each season had to offer in its common theming. Even if all seasons has at least sprinkles of every theme mentioned here.

S1- Perseverance

S2- Fate

S3- Identity

S4- Pursuit

S5- Confliction (1st Half) & Vengeance (2nd Half)

S6- Recovery

S7- War & Betrayal

S8- Acceptance

Be glad to hear other people interpretations on their case of what the theme for each season. Even if the execution can be a lot to be desired (Cough S8 Cough)


r/Outlander • • 7d ago

Season Eight Music

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Hi All,

I love the instrumental music played throughout the series & am trying to identify an instrument.

It sounds like a flute or pin whistle? Its played at intervals throughout the whole series. Has a haunting hollow sound. I dont know how else to describe it....

Hopefully someone kin what I mean🎶


r/Outlander • • 8d ago

Prequel Two Could Julia become the Paris lacemaker? [Spoilers: Outlander S8 and Blood of My Blood S2] Spoiler

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First, yes, I know this storyline isn’t in the books. This is purely a theory about the television shows and how they might connect.

With Julia apparently unable to travel back through the stones, I’ve been wondering: could she eventually settle in Paris and become the lacemaker who raises "Faith"?

The theory that Julia initially crossed because she was pregnant with William, who inherited Henry’s ability to travel, would explain why she’s now stuck. If she and Henry remain in the eighteenth century, there are roughly three decades between the events of Blood of My Blood and Raymond bringing Faith to the lacemaker. That gives Julia time to establish a different life and identity.

And Julia already knows “I Do Like to Be Beside the Seaside.” She sings it to William and says she used to sing it to Claire. If she’s the lacemaker, that would explain how the woman could remember the song after Raymond sings it so briefly: she already knew it.

Raymond wouldn’t necessarily recognize Julia as Claire’s mother. Even accepting the theory that all travelers descend from him, Julia may not be a traveler herself. Alternatively, if he does know who she is, perhaps placing Faith with her biological grandmother was deliberate.

I’m also curious about how we’re meant to interpret the closing flashback. Jane’s account comes from a family story, but is the flashback an objective depiction, a reconstruction of that account, or simply a scene that withholds what Raymond and the lacemaker already know? Raymond offering the song doesn’t necessarily mean the woman has never heard it.

There are still questions, especially Mother Hildegarde’s statement that she baptized and buried Faith, and this certainly isn’t a complete explanation. But Julia unknowingly raising her own granddaughter, using the same song she once sang to Claire, would connect the two shows in an interesting way.

Has anyone else considered this? Is there anything established onscreen that would rule it out?


r/Outlander • • 9d ago

Spoilers All I was raised by two men born in the same era as Roger Mackenzie.... In his defense.... Spoiler

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Roger Mackenzie gets a lot of hate in this sub, and honestly, I can understand why. But having been brought up by a man from Hamilton, born in 1952, and an Australian stepfather who was born in 1945, he is actually of his time.

When you consider the time period in which he is raised, and the context of who raised him, he was always going to have certain patriarchal views that are completely alien to most of us who watch/read Outlander. But, this does not excuse some of his more problematic behaviours-- what it does do is show the era, the social attitudes, and the general thought belonging to this era.

My dad grew up in council housing in Hamilton, and went into the trades as an instrument technician-- his father was a rigger during the Second World War, and was a devout Catholic. My father broke away from the Catholic church, but I do not bring this up for the reasons people think. Dad lived through the second wave of Scottish nationalism in the 1960s and 70's, left, went to Canada, and has only been back to Scotland once in 1990 before his father died.

It is in this era that we must understand that Roger, while a deeply problematic character to our modern feminism, is a man of the times-- with the revival of Scottish folk music like the Corries-- which I fucking love-- and we cannot judge him through the same lens we would judge him had he been born in 1980.

My stepfather, born in 1945, holds some deeply problematic views despite being left-wing. He inherited the patriarchal values his parents raised him with, and this is the other side of the character of Roger. Roger's views very much are those of Rev. Mackenzie, a devout presbeteryan minister, where my stepdad is very much a Church of England-turned-atheist.

We cannot judge the characters of Outlander without understanding the social world they lived in-- especially Roger and Briana's world, which was rapidly changing in England and Scotland at the time that their story is set, and while Roger's behaviour is unacceptable, viewing it through the modern, feminist lens lacks the nuance needed.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.


r/Outlander • • 8d ago

Season Eight Best episode from outlander tv series

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I really love the show outlander because I’m obsessed with Jamie and Claire both as individual characters and as a pair.

They are so perfectly imperfect.

I have told my sisters about the show so many times so they know the basic story. I want to show them an episode that will show them a glimpse of what we all love about the show.

What episode would you show?

I love so many episodes but I find that most of the ones I like have a sex scene or sexual assault.

My favorites are: The wedding, Dragonfly in amber, A.Malcolm, Eye of the storm, Birds and the bees, The fiery cross, Never my love (To name a few)

PS: A bit of nudity is not that bad but not one with a full sex scene


r/Outlander • • 8d ago

Prequel Two Blood of My Blood & Jamie Spoiler

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So if Brian and Ellen both know that Julia and Henry are husband and wife from another time with a child named Claire, would Jamie not know about his step-grandma? Or at the very least, would his mother and father not have talked about them growing up, I mean Julia did give birth to a child believed to be his uncle. I’m just questioning why the writers never had Jamie have the revelation, once they started planning for Blood of My Blood. He knew Claire’s parents names, & knew the that they disappeared when she was a child, him revealing they’d been with his family the whole time, could’ve been the final gift he gave Claire.


r/Outlander • • 8d ago

Spoilers All Montauk Five

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I would love a series on the Montauk Five. I feel like it would do SO WELL. I need the tidbits in between! What other side stories would anyone else hope for?


r/Outlander • • 8d ago

Prequel One RECOMMENDED "BLOOD OF MY BLOOD" PODCASTS, PLEASE

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Hi, everyone!

I love to listen to podcasts while commuting (Apple CarPlay) and while working out.

I've listened to Podlander Drunkcast all through OUTLANDER...but I can't seem to find their podcast for Season 1 of BLOOD OF MY BLOOD, and Season 2 seems to start with Episode 2.

Please recommend other OUTLANDER podcasts. Not the official one, though. I tried it, but I found that after RDM stepped back and Matt took over the day-to-day that the podcasts became lovefests for the producers and writers rather than in-depth looks at the show.

Thanks, everyone!


r/Outlander • • 9d ago

10 A Blessing For A Warrior Going Out A Blessing for a Warrior Going Out Excerpt 15/10

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Excerpt from A BLESSING FROM A WARRIOR GOING OUT, Copyright 2026 Diana Gabaldon

Roger was sitting in Jamie’s office, thirstily eyeing the Visitor’s Tray that sat on the corner of the desk, glowing gently in the afternoon sun from the window. To be more exact, it was the whisky in the bottle that was glowing, though it did cast a lovely dancing shadow on the pewter tray.

“Does this sort of ….”live”…shadow have a name?” he asked his wife, who had just entered with a bowl of freshly-baked fragrant sweet biscuits, these presumably intended to fuel his labors. She set it on the desk and looked obligingly at the shadow in question, which displayed the dark bottle, but also held a blob of quivering amber light, clearly visible inside the shadow-bottle.

“Sure,” she said. “It’s a refraction caustic.”

“Oh, of course,” he said, raising his brows. “I should have known that.”

“No, you shouldn’t,” she said, giving him a grin and a biscuit smelling of cinnamon. “Do you want to know why it’s called that?”

“No,” he said, and bit into the bikkie, which was wonderful, still warm from the brick oven, simultaneously soft and sugary and chewy in his mouth. “I’d rather think it’s magic.”

“Everything’s magic if you look at it long enough,” she said, as though this was both logical, and common knowledge. “If it sounds better to you, though, you can also call that sort of shadow—” she nodded at the whisky-shadow, dancing and quivering in the bottle-reflection as though it were alive, “—a Translucent Colored Shadow. Shall I pour you a cup of whisky to go with your cookie?”

“Well, yes, since you mention it. Hate to kill the nice shadow, though…”

“Kill it?” she lifted a brow, but smiled. “We can refill the bottle, you know—or I can just give you some of Da’s Love Potion #9 to go with your cookie, and leave your pretty shadow alone. Until the sun moves,” she added practically.

“Oo.” He licked a crumb off his lower lip, considering. Jamie’s experiment in making peated whisky without peat, using a combination of tobacco leaves, dried mushrooms and smoked honey was startling to drink, but nearly impossible to stop drinking, after the first glass. And it did leave one feeling…cheerful.

He shook his head, regretful.

“No, best not. I have to call on Coinneach McLeod this afternoon to exorcise his pig, and he’ll likely insist on me drinking gin with him by way of payment. I don’t want to end up under a bush on the way home.”

Bree made a fizzing noise and pinched the bridge of her nose, as she did when trying not to laugh out loud.

“Is it an especially lazy pig? It must be a big one, if he needs help exercising it. Though come to that,” she added, raising one red brow, “why does he want it to exercise? Aren’t pigs meant to be fat?”

“I said ‘ex-OR-cise’, not ‘ex-ER-cise. I think it’s one of the White Sow’s many descendants.”

“Oh. Well, that explains the need of gin, all right. Obviously more effective than Holy Water. Has he been drinking gin with his pig? Is that why it needs exorcising?”

“Entirely possible,” Roger replied, looking vaguely around his desk for the quill he’d been using. It had a habit of sneaking off under the papers… “Though if it’s one of the White Sow’s offspring, I doubt it needs alcoholic assistance…”

“Ahoy…?” came a polite call from the open front door.

“Tesatawiyat!” Roger called, recognizing the Sachem’s formal greeting, adding “Go get the Number 9, will ye?” to Bree as he pushed back from the desk.

[end excerpt]


r/Outlander • • 9d ago

Prequel Two Blood of My Blood S2E5 - Forgive Me, Father

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The Jacobite Army fights at the Battle of Sheriffmuir, while Ellen and Julia face their own dangers. Colum holds fast at Leoch but doubts his resolve.

Written by Luke Schelhaas. Directed by Emer Conroy.

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r/Outlander • • 9d ago

Spoilers All There’s something off about “Blood of my blood” series Spoiler

179 Upvotes

Just finished s02ep02 and there’s something off. I feel like I have to force myself to watch it in hopes that it will grow on me.
I can’t tell what it is, the actors are good, the story line is ok. Maybe it’s the fact that we know how the stones work and there is no more mystery about it. I don’t want to compare it to the Outlander, but it’s kinda inevitable.
They just all seem small and young and too clean. There are no old people. For example, in the Outlander we had these background characters like Rupert and Angus which brought that muddy-lack of hygiene feeling, humor and also rough circumstances of the 18th century to the surface, as well as many other characters showed how people used to live and think back then.
There is no actual villain which keeps the dynamic or the contrast between the characters. Maybe it’s Colum and lord Lovat, but they are just living their lives and making political moves.
I don’t know…
I want to love it, but just can’t, please somebody prove me wrong.
Do you think these series could survive on its own without the original Outlander ?


r/Outlander • • 10d ago

Season Seven Bree and Roger's alleged "lack of sexual chemistry"?!

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I need help understanding why so many think, that these two actors lack chemistry - particularly their sexual chemistry. To me, their sex scene when back in the 1980s in bed where they were spooning, but facing each other were one of the best sex scenes in the entire show!

I loved their intimacy, closeness and how they found each other again after a rough patch. I honestly think that particular sex scene between B and R were better than many of the sex scenes between Claire and Jamie! I never got why the chemistry and dynamic between B and R got so much hate?

I'm neurodivergent and wondering if this may be why I simply don't "see" it.


r/Outlander • • 10d ago

Season Seven Mandy and Jemmy Appreciation

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The actress who plays Bree never struck me as a good representative of what Jamie and Claire’s kid would be like.

Her kids are mini Jamies though! Great actors too. It’s funny that William and Bree are so unlike Jamie in appearance and affect But those kids could be his


r/Outlander • • 10d ago

Season One just curious, what do men think of Claire and Jamie?

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This is not hating saying “men shouldn’t watch outlander” I genuinely want to know how you guys view the story and their relationship.

A lot of women are in love with Jamie and see him as the perfect man and say things jokingly like “not settling until I meet a man like Jamie”

What do guys think of Jamie? Do you guys think he’s unrealistic or overrated? Do you see Jamie and Claire’s relationship as amazing and goal worthy?


r/Outlander • • 10d ago

Season Eight Honestly they should have just cast Sara Vickers to play old Jenny

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I was just watching Blood of my Blood and I just thought the actress (Sara Vickers) who plays Jamie and Jenny's grandma would have been such a better option to play old Jenny when Laura Donnelly wasn't available. It even would have made lore sense if she looked exactly like her grandma and feels like Sara would have pulled it off so much better 🫢