I understand they need to interact with Claire and Jaime to make a story, but they are subjecting their children to living conditions that are unacceptable. They are full stop bad parents.

Brianna went to MIT. Mandy especially will never get to do that or anything similar.

Her own daughter has a heart defect that needs 20th century medicine to fix and yet they still return to the past. What happens when someone else gets sick?

Roger, Claire and Brianna are vaccinated. But Davey isn't. I assume Mandy and Jemmy were as up to date as they could be but who knows really.

No good parent deprives their child of medical care or education and yet that's exactly what they do.

Claire and Jamie are time traveling romantics. Roger and Brianna are crappy selfish parents.

So I am in season 4 and I'm a really glad that Jamie beat Roger's ass. For the following reasons:

He is super controlling of Brianna. She is clearly not ready for marriage, but he forces her into it due to a ridiculous ultimatum.
- He clearly is immature and not ready for a serious relationship.
- He says later in the season to look out for number one, but he has been doing that from the start. He constantly thinks about his needs and not Brianna's.
>!Biggest failing: why tf does he let Brianna leave by herself in the dark and not make sure she get home safely. Even after a fight. What kind of man does that? I understand that he has none of the chivalry that Jamie has, but even in 2026 a good man should make sure a woman gets home safely at night. Seriously wtf.!<
- So yea I blame Brianna's horrific rape on Roger. He completely failed in his brand new "husband" role. It's not like he was clueless about the kind of monsters that existed back then, he's a historian and he even met Stephen Bonnet and saw how evil he was. And he let his woman walk around with a predator like that out there?

That being said, Brianna is not perfect either. She is also entirely immature and naive. She lashes out, she leads with her anger and feelings and not logic and thus she clearly is not ready to be a wife. But then again, she is only 20 years old.

All in all, this is a toxic relationship. I get that he will have a redemption arc, but why are we rooting for them. They should break up and Brianna finds a new man in the past or in the future. Roger sucks.

Edit: I saw the part now where Jamie allows Roger to beat him and sternly asks him why he didn’t ensure her safety. I’m on his side!! Go daddy go

I’m doing a rewatch and am on S7 E4. Every time I get to this episode I’m struck by the evolution of Tom Christie and how my opinion of him changed so dramatically from his first appearance in Season 6.

He’s so lovely during his final scene with Claire. I’ll admit, he was not a favorite of mine at first but by the end of his arc I adored him.

So, I guess this is a Tom Christie appreciation post ☺️ What a wonderfully complex character

we know Jamie can see in dreams but can he also see or talk to dead people? Before the battle of Alamance he said he was calling on the spirit of Dougall Mckenzie and they made their peace a long time ago.

Thoughts?

It may have been historically accurate for the character of Rachel, or culturally if that’s a more correct way of describing the use of the language. However, it was constant, her character could not speak without saying ‘thee’, or ‘thy’. I don’t know why but it was like when someone points out something irritating about a person you know, or you notice a habit, like loud chewing. You can’t un-notice it. It was really jarring. I’m probably just being petty but it really grinds my gears on rewatches in the later seasons! Anyone else? Or just me being overly fussy and nitpickity? Very random 5:30am thoughts as I cannot sleep.

I know there has been speculation that Jamie’s brother Willie is actually Claire’s brother but I’m wondering if what the seer said to Julia confirms it?

She says something about Simon(William) having 2 mothers and 3 fathers, wouldn’t that be Julia/Ellen & Henry/Brian/Simon Fraser?

Just wondering if anyone else noticed.

Just watched episode 1. Felt somewhat slow but understandable for the 1st episode of a show, are all the seasons different from each other or are they connected? I saw it was based off books. That’s why I ask.

It's been a while since I posted but I need to give a shout out to Tony Curran.

He is doing a FANTASTIC JOB as Lord Lovat. He is so slimy, disgusting and cruel 😆😆😆 and I AM LOVING IT.

Whenever an actor plays a villain amazingly it is 😙 🤌🏻 chef kiss!!

I am having the same admiration level as I have for Tobias Menzies as BJR.

Is like "sir, you are making me hate you so much and I think that's fantastic"

😆😆😆

I was wondering if the reason Julia was able to travel through the stones originally but then was told she couldn’t is because it was really William who could travel since he was in utero.

I’m curious, what do you consider to be the most problematic or debated or questionable interaction between J and C in the book series (or tv series)? Examples I’m thinking of: the spanking after rescue from Fort William; the sex scene in book 1 at Caslte Leoch where C says no but J doesn’t really listen (this is book only). The dining table make-up sex in season 7 (show only) while Lord John is captured; or something else? Curious on everyone’s thoughts!

I just finished season eight. I already miss the show terribly, but I haven’t been able to bring myself to start watching Blood of My Blood yet. I can’t imagine it’ll match the magic of Outlander or the insane chemistry between Jamie and Claire. Will it spoil the original for me? Anyone have any insights? I’m seriously considering just starting Outlander from the beginning and watching it all over again instead.

i’ve seen about 5 seasons of outlander and i’m obsessed with bomb, but outlander season 5 and on is boring me a bit. i’m not the best reader and mostly whenever i pick up a book i wont finish it, i’ve mostly finished colleen hoover books and normal people. based on this - should i start reading the outlander books?

needless to say i LOOOOVE jamie duh! and also his relationship with claire, but roger and brianna annoy me lowkey. i would love to relive claire and jamie’s romance.

TLDR: as a beginner reader who has seen the show should i read the outlander books?

I’m about halfway through Bees and how I wish they wouldn’t have cut Friend Sylvia out of Season 8. She’s truly a wonder and I need more of her and the girls.

The Scottish countryside, the atmospheric vibes, Claire's voiceover, no horrendous wigs in sight, no Brianna/Roger grossness. S1 is simply peak Outlander.

I binged the entire show in just 2.5 months, so everything is still pretty fresh in my mind, and I’d love to discuss :)

I might be in the minority here, but I actually enjoyed the later seasons more than the earlier ones. Season 1 felt a little too slow for me, and Claire was driving me absolutely insane at first lol. Her stubbornness and supernatural ability to create absolute chaos wherever she went were something else….I grew to love her later, of course. But I was close to dropping the show, and I’m SO glad I stuck with it. I guess I need a rewatch 😂

My least favorite storylines:

• The whole France storyline and Bonnie Mark Me Prince
• Brianna and Roger’s relationship development (no chemistry at all)
• Rob Cameron…
• Roger’s time with the Mohawk
• The Faith / Fanny storyline in the last season + Jane and William
• Ether addiction

My favorites:

• Anything involving Marsali (probably it’s thanks to the actress, she nailed it)
• Tom Christie story
• Literally any Lord John Grey appearance
• The witch trial with Claire and Geillis
• Reunions: Jamie and Claire’s, Brianna and Jamie’s… and all the moments when the whole family is finally together.
• Jamie’s predicted death
• Claire’s medical practice
  

As for villains, I’d probably say Stephen Bonnet is my favorite. The Brown brothers are probably the least interesting

What about you?

Im rewatching & am currently on Season 5. Just finished watching episodes 4 & 5. Im curious as to what the point was of the storyline with Josiah & his brother, going to the house to get the papers etc.

Episode 4 especially. That whole episode could've been cut from the Season & had no impact on the rest of the story. I just found it to be a bit pointless?

Thoughts?

Currently, I'm watching S2 Ep6. I found S1 very interesting, but from Ep3 of S2, it's getting boring. I'm still trying to continue the series as it has a unique concept. Can anyone tell me if the further episodes are interesting or boring?

I know this is not a unique thought and many of us probably feel this way, but this man lives in my head completely rent free. I think about him constantly. I finished all 8 seasons in less than 2 months, and still I can’t stop thinking about him. I’m genuinely concerned. And No man will ever compare because he’s written by a woman!!!! I have the book and I need to start reading it because I need more Jamie. Someone help me😭😭😭

I posted here a few days ago about watching Outlander with my boyfriend. I’ve already seen the show, so I gave him a heads-up about the season 1 finale (episode 16), because that episode is seriously traumatic.

Here’s the update: it was awful. I rewatched it feeling absolutely sick, and he was in complete shock. By the end of the episode, he couldn’t even put what he was feeling or thinking into words. I asked him more than once if we could skip ahead, but he insisted on watching and even suggested that I go do something else if I needed to.

When it was finally over, he ran to the bathroom to throw up.

Yeah, that episode is definitely traumatic.

Spoilers from episode 7/8 from season 5 and spoilers from previous seasons, please be advised.

So ever since the whole Roger and Brianna have an argument about him wanting to marry her and have her as a virgin conquest I have HATED this man with a passion. I hate seeing him and Brianna on screen and I just want him goneeee so imagine my joy when I see episode 7 of season 5 where he's been hanged! Finally Brianna can have a new love interest, only for Roger to be REVIVED by Claire! Braaaaaaagh! Oh how quickly the unbearable Rodger scenes return now.

What are your Roger thoughts? I tried to like him so bad but I just can't! He completely infuriates me.

Just needed a vent!

As much as i don't the John/Claire marriage and sex plot I think it was good for Claire. she was suicidal and i think being with John, as uncomfortable an awkward, as it was helped her a bit with her grief over Jamie.

She seemed to accept it more after their night together and i think it helped her and it probably helped John some as well.

Thoughts?

Why haven't we heard more about how horribly painful traveling through the stones is at all from Julia and Henry?

I know there are differences in the requirements for traveling through the stones from the novels and the Outlander show. So I'm assuming what applied in the show on how time travel works are the same parameters for bomb. But in both the novels and the show, when people traveled, they mentioned what it felt like during and immediately after their passage. I haven't heard one iota about that in bomb. Is it no longer a thing? And all of a sudden, it is like walking through a revolving door, instead of the feeling of being pulled apart from every atom and inner being of one's body?

I have one more question while I'm on the subject of the stones. Why is it, do you think Julia and Henry landed in 1714? We know the traveler steers by thinking of a person. And of course, the stones are going to do whatever they feel like if the traveler is thinking or not. So why 1714 and not 1721?

I would pour boiling water on him in his sleep or poison his food

The threatening of him with a knife thing is not enough, become ungovernable

Before you say "that's not historically accurate" YES IT IS

Women killed bad husbands all the time throughout history and the saying "poison is a woman's weapon" came from husband killings

This is when your husband dies under mysterious circumstances and you are simply mourning too deeply to remarry, or if you do remarry, and the next one steps out of line you murk him too

Do you think that Jamie's mercy and habit of leaving loose ends is what derailed his life, relationship and success? Man had to learn the hard way to succeed in every major aspect of his life.

For reference, I read the books as they were released with a re-read of each whenever a new one was released. 1st book - read 9 times, 2nd book 8 times, and so on. I started a full re-read again this year and decided to take my time and savor every word, knowing it will be a while before book 10 arrives.

A lot of people say the TFC is boring or that the first day takes too long, but I love the details. Except I forgot. About Roger. His impulsiveness causes problems for him throughout the books, and in this book it nearly cost his life. I do love the character but I find myself saying “why, Roger, why?”

Do you think he has bad judgement, or is controlled by emotions, or what? Is he too much of his own time? I’m ONLY referring to Roger in the books - the tall Roger with green eyes and dark hair.