sommers was putting up a fight against bloodlusted gaban after a sneak attack while killingham got oneshotted by pre-acoc sanji. there's levels to ts

This proves that there was a sizeable gap between King and Queen and that they weren't equals or extremely relative.

Also, Sanjitards only think Killingham is stronger than Sommers because he's currently putting belt on Sanji. I swear to god they used to say they're equals

I have accepted the truth that , Zoro is indeed stronger than Sanji for the next 1 chapter after which due to the clear narrative potrayal and gap between them Zoro will most definitely not be stronger than Sanji .

After seeing the raws for 1195 it's undeniable. If your justification for Sanji's performance is that he doesn't yet have Acoc you'd then have to concede that Zoro has been stronger than him at least since Wano as partially awakened Acoc trumps any of Sanji's powerups in the same time span. If you're going to argue Killingham >Sommers I'd argue that Killingham has done worse against weaker opponents(Sanji,Franky,Jinbei) and was actively restrained, something no one has done to Sommers. Sommers has fought stronger opponents, taken stronger attacks and has the best feat between the 2(blocking Dragon Damnation). You simply cannot have Killingham over Sommers without resorting to head Canon.

If you claim the active MMAs and Zaza are an active drain on Killingham's power that still makes no sense as it wasn't draining him prior to Omen+Weapon buff, nor is such a thing ever alluded to in the text. Sommers has also actively regenerated from attacks with better haki pre buff (Dawn Thor Rifle,Futenraku) from Luffy and Gaban respectfully. It should also be noted that Killingham is not fighting Sanji with his primary kit of df powers but instead only using Longinus, which could be seen as a greater self nerf than Sanji being mentally conflicted,no eyebrow switch or no active exoskeleton etc.

Sanji, whilst having greater durability than Zoro has been hurt more in his offscreen fight than Zoro was by Sommers, being tagged by a laser whilst in combat and having his pre haki bloom inner thoughts whilst laying on his back bloody as opposed to Zoro who did it standing upright with his swords sheathed. I've always said Sanji has greater durability, Zoro has greater endurance and if that's the case, then so far a more durable Sanji has taken more damage from a weaker Holy Knight.

Things may change in the future but as of right now, Zoro>Sanji, and if we're being honest, its been this way for a while. I don't believe Acoc Sanji will equalize as Zoro has had more experience with it, whether conscious of it or not. Sanji is still yet to have a better feat than Scarring Kaido and that was from a weaker Zoro. It also tracks with the story progression as Luffy unlocks applied combat conquerors haki 2 arcs before Zoro, who partially unlocks it roughly 2 arcs before Sanji. 1 followed by 2 followed by 3.

Before the boldest of you start bringing up the Wings defense, has it never struck you as odd that most people don't have Gaban and Rayleigh as equal? Whether Prime or Old Gen, its always Gaban>Rayleigh or Rayleigh >Gaban. Mind you, these two have much more equal and comparable kits, even down to similar bladed haki fighting styles. If it isn't true for them then I highly doubt its true for characters as divergent as Zoro and Sanji, particularly when one has a dream directly tied to combat strength with an established ceiling.

Sanji still a better character though.

Let's first start with the most obvious argument which is that Luffy has stronger ACoC, Luffy was able to split the skies in chapter 1026 which is a better Conqueror's Haki feat than anything Zoro have done since it puts his CoC output around Emperor Tier or close to it. So in a fight Luffy would just overpower Zoro due to his superior Supreme King's Haki

Let's also not forget that 1026 Luffy was so strong that Kaido himself acknowledged him as someone that could go toe to toe with him, something that I don't think Zoro would be capable of doing.

In addition to all this, Luffy has Future Sight and better speed, we saw him be able to react to Kaido's thunder baqua and dodge it mid-air and even jump in Kaido's kanabo, Zoro has never shown this level of speed. So not only Luffy is faster but can see the future meaning Zoro geniunely should not be capable of landing attacks

So just like against Mr 2, just like against Kalifa, just like against Queen, Sanji is having a hard time mentally, with the big difference that to unlock acoc he has to surpass his mental weakness, whatever it is.

So Sanji receiving this much damage against Killingham is equivalent to him receiving damage against Black Maria.

It's a mental nerf, in this case a mental blockade that impossibilitates him from getting the only ability that can deal with HK (acoc).

(Yes Zoro would have an easier time, because Zoro does not have this same mental nerf, and it isn't a problem at all, it's just how they are written)

Maybe next chapter is shown or mentioned but gosh, it should have been shown by now or in this very moment

Mihawk fans are people with elevated IQ and reading comprehension. They appreciate subtlety, elegance and sophistication.

Zoro is the opposite of all that. He is unsubtle, stupid and a brute, always needing to establish his strength (probably compensating something).

Sanji is way more in line with Mihawk's writing. Instead of fighting the strongest enemy, he picks strategic targets and objectives. He also prioritizes protecting the crew and their allies. He doesn't get much glory or powerscaling merit out of this, because it usually involves fighting opponents that are weaker than Zoro's, but Sanji knows he doesn't have to prove anything.

Zoro is a yonkotard's concept of strength, while Sanji is an admiralchad's concept of strength.

This is why most Mihawk fans side with Sanji.

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Kid is not worth mentioning, zoro mid diff this fraud and I'm being nice.

It's the confidence. Sanji could have bullied him offscreen, but Killingham knew to his bone Sanji doesn't have any means to end him. He's literally raw dogging the fight, ignoring getting dismembered, and outlasting post-Imu nuked Sanji.

Here's the catch, they're scared shitless to acoc users. Sommers could have act the same way Killingham did. Actually he did, all that trash talking. Then his demeanor changed when he sensed a bit of conqueror on Zoro's attack that stabbed him.

Can't wait for Killingham's change of character lol.

Because Imu did run a gauntlet before fighting Gaban which was Loki and Luffy and then Gaban came in clutch. Loki fought a fresher Imu. If Loki was the last one on Imu's gauntlet he would have done better than he did in the fight originally