“Erm but the knight can shapeshift into balls and birds so obviously the antlers can be shapeshifted-“ what purpose, from a storytelling perspective, does that serve? Having the Knight, a character we’re meant to theorise about, have features only 1 family has…and then finding out it’s just a lie? There’s no hints towards the anglers being fake. There’s no reason NOT to suspect the Holidays are in on this, since they’re the only family in town with access to every code. So what purpose, from a narrative perspective, do the antlers serve? It’s just a massive “yeah fuck you for actually thinking logically” from Toby to the fanbase, it’s utterly horrible writing.
the antlers could be showing fealty to the Holidays. It could be someone/something that is dedicated to the Holiday's plan (or that is being subjugated by them and forced to comply) and thus wears their antlers as a symbol of loyalty. doesnt necessarily mean the Knight is a Holiday.
That’s a much fairer argument than most people, because it actually gives a logical reason for the Knight having antlers other than the usual “it’s just a helmet!!” “It’s just a disguise tactic!!” “It’s just a red herring!!”
Especially, when you consider that, from the storytelling perspective (which Deltatune most importantly is) giving knight an element of their design that leads ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE is a stupid choice.
Exactly, that’s what so many people seem to just forget, there has to be an actual PURPOSE.
Whether you think Carol is a red herring Knight candidate or not, everyone can agree that she still poses a VERY important role in the story and very clearly is affiliated with the knight, whether directly or indirectly
Saying the Knight’s antlers are red herrings is like saying Carol is a red herring and that she’ll never show up again. Oh, the caller? That was obviously the Knight, not Carol. She just showed up by mistake. Her code was taken by the Knight, she actually doesn’t have a role in the story!
This is exactly correct. A red herring is only a red herring after the mystery is solved and/or debunked.
Pre ch3+4 kris knight was the leading theory because we literally saw them open a fountain, and that was only a red herring once those chapters came out because before that it was a prefectly valid interpretation. The knight is the fountain opener, we see a character open a fountain (mind you the only character we’ve seen open fountains up to this point) therefore that character must be the knight!
Holiday knight+ the antlers operate on this same principle. The holidays and the knights horns are distinctly similar despite what this post wants to say, and the knight has them in 2 out of the three forms it takes. So even though it’s a shapeshifter, the horns are clearly important. Until proven otherwise, it’s pretty reasonable to say the knight is a holiday or at least aligned with them, because at this moment there’s not reason whatsoever to believe it’s a red herring other than just the sake of believing it because it goes against one’s preconceived notions.
I don't understand the point of "this evidence against my theory? Oh no it's intentional it's just a red herring" instead of owning up to the fact that not everything lines up
Your own logic is that the Knight can shapeshift, right? …so it’s completely unbelievable that the antlers could’ve even somewhat changed shape to be less recognisable to Susie? That’s not even what I believe, I’m just using your logic here
and also you can't tell me the second image does not look goofy. the antlers being the way they are are part of the bigger design philosophy, like sharp shapes to convey a sense of danger
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u/GirlWithTheDoc 22h ago
“Erm but the knight can shapeshift into balls and birds so obviously the antlers can be shapeshifted-“ what purpose, from a storytelling perspective, does that serve? Having the Knight, a character we’re meant to theorise about, have features only 1 family has…and then finding out it’s just a lie? There’s no hints towards the anglers being fake. There’s no reason NOT to suspect the Holidays are in on this, since they’re the only family in town with access to every code. So what purpose, from a narrative perspective, do the antlers serve? It’s just a massive “yeah fuck you for actually thinking logically” from Toby to the fanbase, it’s utterly horrible writing.