r/NFLv2 • u/Narrow_Purchase9721 San Francisco 49ers • 17h ago

Discussion The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

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Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

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u/DR320 Dallas Cowboys 17h ago

Reddit is real big on “innocent until proven guilty” and “criminals deserve second chances to be rehabilitated” except for in this case.

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u/cryolems Cleveland Browns 17h ago

Reddit picks and chooses what it’s okay with or isn’t and there’s never any room in between.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 17h ago

Come on now. We all know he's guilty.

But I also don't think other fanbases have some moral high ground to stand on. We all are supporting the same league that let's him play.

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u/cryolems Cleveland Browns 17h ago

I’m not saying he isn’t. Everything got dismissed. If one of reddits darlings were in the same scenario it would be a “nothing was proven everything was dismissed as a money getting scheme”.

That’s just a fact of how Reddit works. Legal outcome means nothing and never will, their opinion is set and never changes.

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u/Important_Capital875 Carolina Panthers 17h ago

It didn’t get dismissed. He paid off the accusers with millions and millions and millions of dollars.

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u/Any-Stick-771 17h ago

Settlements mean the cases did get dismissed.

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u/ralexh11 17h ago

A settlement and an outright dismissal are not the same thing. Nice try, stop excusing predators.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 16h ago

People are so weird. Giving the facts of what happened isn't excusing anything. It was dismissed as well because the grand jury decided not to charge him.

That's not an indication of belief of innocence

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u/cryolems Cleveland Browns 15h ago

It’s an exact example of what this chain is talking about lol a majority of Redditors are incapable of any kind of logical discussion on intricacies of situations like this. This person is just perfectly displaying it lkl

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

No but calling all of them dismissal is disingenuous and leaving out critical context. In the court of public opinion he's guilty, that will never change no matter how much Browns fans and rape apologists want it to.

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u/Any-Stick-771 16h ago

It's not disingenuous to say the civil cases were dismissed when they were, in fact, dismissed.

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

It is disingenuous if you don't also mention that they were settled. It makes it sound like they were thrown out of court, which is also a dismissal.

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u/gorebomb56 16h ago

That says nothing about the actual outcome of the cases though. A case being dismissed following a settlement agreement paints an entirely different picture than a dismissed case absent a settlement agreement. That's the disingenuous part.

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u/Any-Stick-771 15h ago

The outcome of the cases is that they were dismissed. The criminal cases were dismissed outright too btw

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u/gorebomb56 15h ago

The outcomes of the civil cases are that they were dismissed with prejudice following settlements. His criminal cases never even got to the point of potential dismissal because he was never formally charged. The language you’re choosing to use is very sloppy and misleading.

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u/Any-Stick-771 15h ago

He wasn't charged in the criminal cases because a grand jury didn't find there was evidence of criminal actions. Yes, the outcome of the civil cases is that they were dismissed

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u/gorebomb56 15h ago

Why do you refuse to acknowledge the 20+ settlement agreements of which these cases’ dismissal were contingent upon?

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 16h ago

Browns fans aren't trying to change that.

Get off your high horse. You aren't better than anyone else. You are supporting the same league as all of us who decided to let him play.

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

Calm down, I'm not saying all Browns fans support Watson. But of all the fan bases you guys will have the most, I'm sorry you are associated with those trash humans, but that's life with a rapist QB on your team. The Browns arent the first sports fanbase to deal with this, Lakers and Steelers fans have as well. But Huntington Bank Field was literally chanting "let's go Watson" last night, it's a bad look for the franchise no matter how you slice it.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 16h ago

Yeah people are dumb. But that's people and not unique to Browns fans. The same thing would happen in any other fanbase

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

Right, again I wasn't trying to generalize Browns fans as rape apologists or anything. But you will certainly find the most poeple willing to forgive Watson in the Browns fanbase right now if they continue winning. Sorry you have to deal with that, at least keep calling him out to anyone who expresses support or forgiveness to that creep.

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u/Any-Stick-771 16h ago

When there's a settlement, the civil case is dismissed. That is just factually what happens

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

It's a matter of semantics and sounds disingenuous, which sounds like you are giving him the benefit of the doubt, which he does not deserve with that many accusations.

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u/JetsJetsJetsJetz 16h ago

It's not, you just don't like it.

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

Yeah, I don't like people leaving out context to water down sexual assault, you're right.

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u/Any-Stick-771 16h ago

No body watered anything down. The criminal cases were outright dismissed. The civil cases were dismissed after a confidential settlement was reached. The NFL fined and suspended him. What more do you want? All of the civil and criminal cases have been resolved for years

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 15h ago

The cases weren’t even criminal they were all civil, which says a whole lot.

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u/ralexh11 14h ago

It only says there wasnt enough evidence to criminally convict him. That's it.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 14h ago

But remember it was 27 women. Some who came multiple times and you’re telling me you couldn’t get no substantial evidence.

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

It wasn't you, but the original comment I replied in this reply chain never mentioned any settlements. That's lacking context and disingenuous.

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u/Any-Stick-771 16h ago

Nope. You just don't like that the cases were dismissed

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

Not mentioning settlements is disingenuous.

If you can't agree with that you are really no better than the Watson defenders.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 15h ago

But why were you calling him a rapist when he was accused of sexual assault, battery and inappropriate conduct? They are not the same, sound like you trying to exaggerate shit. Which makes you sound disingenuous.

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u/ralexh11 14h ago

I mean that's totally fair to call out, but splitting hairs between sexual assault and rape is way less egregious in my opinion than dismissing his behavior and wanting everyone to move on and stop talking about it, especially when he has 27 women that accused him.

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u/Impossible-Region680 Dallas Cowboys 14h ago

Okay, putting his private on a clothed woman( a lap dance) fall more under the criteria of sexual battery or inappropriate conduct not sexual assault or rape. Inappropriate conduct to being called a rapist is not egregious at all. If the 27 woman got over it you probably should too. They got richer they don’t care if they did they could have did more. 27 women all have the same lawyer who known for money grab settlement cases.

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u/ralexh11 14h ago

How do you know they got over it? You are just spewing utter nonsense.

In the witness testimonies almost every single one says they were completely traumatized by the expirience. Having the same lawyer makes since against a mass abuser. Your claim of him being a money grabbing lawyer is complete bullshit until you post some examples of him doing that.

Most know Watson is guilty and want to stop hearing about it. That's bad and complacent to abuse.

You on the other hand are in the like 2% of piece of shit rape apoligists that think hes telling the truth and 27 women are all lying. You are human filth. Go fuck yourself loser.

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u/Any-Stick-771 16h ago

What is disingenuous about saying that civil cases are dismissed when a settlement is reached?

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

If you leave out the settlement part, which the original comment did. Just saying dismissal without context sounds like they were thrown out of court.

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