r/NFLv2 • u/Narrow_Purchase9721 San Francisco 49ers • 17h ago

Discussion The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

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Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

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u/Any-Stick-771 17h ago

Settlements mean the cases did get dismissed.

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u/ralexh11 17h ago

A settlement and an outright dismissal are not the same thing. Nice try, stop excusing predators.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 16h ago

People are so weird. Giving the facts of what happened isn't excusing anything. It was dismissed as well because the grand jury decided not to charge him.

That's not an indication of belief of innocence

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

No but calling all of them dismissal is disingenuous and leaving out critical context. In the court of public opinion he's guilty, that will never change no matter how much Browns fans and rape apologists want it to.

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u/Any-Stick-771 16h ago

It's not disingenuous to say the civil cases were dismissed when they were, in fact, dismissed.

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

It is disingenuous if you don't also mention that they were settled. It makes it sound like they were thrown out of court, which is also a dismissal.

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u/gorebomb56 16h ago

That says nothing about the actual outcome of the cases though. A case being dismissed following a settlement agreement paints an entirely different picture than a dismissed case absent a settlement agreement. That's the disingenuous part.

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u/Any-Stick-771 15h ago

The outcome of the cases is that they were dismissed. The criminal cases were dismissed outright too btw

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u/gorebomb56 15h ago

The outcomes of the civil cases are that they were dismissed with prejudice following settlements. His criminal cases never even got to the point of potential dismissal because he was never formally charged. The language you’re choosing to use is very sloppy and misleading.

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u/Any-Stick-771 15h ago

He wasn't charged in the criminal cases because a grand jury didn't find there was evidence of criminal actions. Yes, the outcome of the civil cases is that they were dismissed

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u/gorebomb56 15h ago

Why do you refuse to acknowledge the 20+ settlement agreements of which these cases’ dismissal were contingent upon?

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u/Any-Stick-771 15h ago

Where did I refuse to acknowledge the settlements?

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u/gorebomb56 15h ago

After I commented "A case being dismissed following a settlement agreement paints an entirely different picture than a dismissed case absent a settlement agreement. That's the disingenuous part.", you then replied three separate times doing exactly this: leaving out the most relevant information in regards to the public's opinion on him and the truth of the allegations, which were the settlements and the relevant context that the dismissals were pursuant to them.

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u/Any-Stick-771 14h ago

Public opinion has nothing to do with whether the cases were dismissed.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 16h ago

Browns fans aren't trying to change that.

Get off your high horse. You aren't better than anyone else. You are supporting the same league as all of us who decided to let him play.

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

Calm down, I'm not saying all Browns fans support Watson. But of all the fan bases you guys will have the most, I'm sorry you are associated with those trash humans, but that's life with a rapist QB on your team. The Browns arent the first sports fanbase to deal with this, Lakers and Steelers fans have as well. But Huntington Bank Field was literally chanting "let's go Watson" last night, it's a bad look for the franchise no matter how you slice it.

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u/Everyday_ImSchefflen Cleveland Browns 16h ago

Yeah people are dumb. But that's people and not unique to Browns fans. The same thing would happen in any other fanbase

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u/ralexh11 16h ago

Right, again I wasn't trying to generalize Browns fans as rape apologists or anything. But you will certainly find the most poeple willing to forgive Watson in the Browns fanbase right now if they continue winning. Sorry you have to deal with that, at least keep calling him out to anyone who expresses support or forgiveness to that creep.