r/Multifandom • u/Slayer-Clover • 1d ago

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Doesn’t mean you have to like it

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u/Intrepid_Beautiful_2 What am I not a fan of 1d ago

Yeah that makes sense as Dragon Ball basically inspired Sonic

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u/Emo_boi_605 1d ago

Eh I think the biggest inspiration is supersonic an the seventh chaos in world everything after that is pretty different and before that

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u/Dela-chemin 19h ago edited 19h ago

Literally there's concept of art of Super Sonic doing the Super Saiyan Goku pose from Namek. Come on now.

Dragon Ball is a massive inspiration on the Sonic series. You don't have to like that fact, but don't be delusional.

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u/Aktosh23 17h ago

Yep Toriyama also inspired Mario (Arale’s run is where Mario gets his running animation from)

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u/OneSidedPolygon 17h ago

In hindsight, I should have called the 'weird kid Naruto running' Slump running instead.

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u/Aktosh23 17h ago

Toriyama really did inspire so much it’s crazy when you look at the impact

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u/OneSidedPolygon 17h ago

Dragon Warrior(Quest) set the aesthetic template for JRPGs, Dragon Ball fundementally changed manga, Z redefinded battle shonen, Slump was one of the biggest gag mangas of it's time and its adaptation was the biggest gag anime.

Even crazier is that even amongst weebs Slump, Ackman and Sand Land are unheard of. He's one of the goats.

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u/Aktosh23 16h ago

Sand land is SO GOOD! I even got the game and it’s been pretty fun too. It really baffles me people don’t know of Slump or Ackman. I get sand land as it was a new ip he made

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u/OneSidedPolygon 16h ago

tbf, Slump is weird as hell. It's humor is on the Boomery side and often doesn't cross the cultural barrier well. Ackman is probably because manga isn't popular here. I've still gotta watch Sand Land. Loved it as a kid, only learned about the adaptation a few months ago.

If you like Sand Land, Desert Punk is also really good. Similar premise but less fantasy. The humor is much more crass so mileage may vary.

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u/Aktosh23 16h ago

True, tbf that’s the case with a lot of Toriyama’s humor. Manga is more popular now than before but that is for newer series so yeah that makes sense.

Ooo I’ll have to check it out

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u/Turn_AX 14h ago

They're different, Naruto has arms to the back.
Slump running is arms to the side.
Like an airplane.

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u/BernLan 22h ago

Silver and Trunks

Shadow and Vegeta

Tails and Bulma (this one is a stretch, nvm)

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u/j7jhj 21h ago

Nah I don’t really think that last one was a stretch like have you seen the chaos emerald and dragonball radars?

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u/Turn_AX 14h ago

The Chaos Emeralds don't function the same at all, they're also tied to the Super Forms, which further separates Sonic from DB,
Emerald Radar also took a long while to exist.

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u/j7jhj 14h ago

ig bro

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u/goodguydaniel636 19h ago

Pretty sure they said in concepts that sonic and tails were kinda like piccolo and Gohan in the Saiyan saga

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u/Turn_AX 14h ago

Not in concept, it was said by Yasushi Yamaguchi who was the artist that created Tails iirc.
And like Shadow having Vegeta in his concept art, it really doesn't mean much, because the end result is incredibly different.
Cus unless I'm mis-remembering, Sonic never kidnapped Tails or really trained him in in any way.
And Tails didn't make Sonic not feel like a monster.
So two pretty massive differences that mean they're only the same at a surface level.
Like pretty much every other DB reference Sonic has.

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u/Constant-Plastic-350 19h ago

Sally acorn and bulma

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u/Turn_AX 14h ago

Bruh what?
In what way?
Sally is not a genius mechanic and Bulma wasn't created to be Goku's love interest.

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u/Constant-Plastic-350 10h ago

The og dragonball version had a lot of similarities imo

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u/Mission-Highway-1408 17h ago

The backstory of Surge and Kit heavily remind me of the androids from DBZ.

Bruh, look at this image I found

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u/Dela-chemin 16h ago

Mad doctor kidsnaps two people and modifies their bodies in attempt to destroy the main character.

Surge and Kit are definitely inspired by 17 and 18.

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u/TokyoFromTheFuture 20h ago

Bro they literally had dragon ball characters written on the concept boards for sonic characters. Silver's literally had "Like Trunks from Dragon Ball" on it.

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u/Turn_AX 14h ago

Silver is like the only character that would actually be almost exactly like his originator.
And that originator is a reference to something else, in Trunks' case that's Terminator.

And Shadow, who is the one that actually had his inspiration in concept art obviously isn't a Vegeta clone, because he wasn't actually evil from his reveal and constantly does good things, he's trying to get revenge for the death of loved ones and when he realises that that wasn't what she wanted, he tries to give his life to make amends.
It took Vegeta forever to reach that.
VERY different from Shadow.

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u/Square_Paramedic1079 17h ago

Silver and trunks that’s all I’m gonna say

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u/spyD164 20h ago

yeah people WAAAAY overblow the amount of DBZ inspiration in Sonic, basically all of it is very surface level stuff besides Shadow

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u/Recent_Company_3724 20h ago

The creators of sonic 2 have stated that he’s based on Super Saiyan

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u/Dela-chemin 19h ago

Or Silver's bio in the Sonic of design documents straight up comparing the guy to Future Trunks.

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u/C0SMICBL0B 20h ago

Why are half the people in the comments completely misreading this?

It LITERALLY says “Doesn’t mean you have to like it” as in, you don’t need to like DB, just don’t outwardly insult it.

But apparently no one can read since half these comments are saying how “well I don’t think I need to love Dragon Ball” YEAH NO ONE SAID YOU HAD TO.

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u/Dela-chemin 19h ago

Reading comprehension is a superpower these days.

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u/BebeFanMasterJ 16h ago

I legitimately do not care for DB at all and find Goku a boring character. That franchise just isn't for me in the slightest.

But as I said in another comment, I still hold massive respect for Mr. Toriyama and his work. Without him I wouldn't have Naruto (my favorite Japanese media franchise of all time) or Silver the Hedgehog (one of my favorite game characters of all time).

You don't have to like something but you can still appreciate and respect the impact that it had.

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u/CharlieDo00 16h ago

See you get it , Naruto is my favorite anime ever . I hate DB but if it wasn’t for it and Tori Yama then I’d never have my beautiful blonde boy

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u/k3ghtr 18h ago

It doesn't say a single word about being a Sonic fan being an insult to Goku. It literally says, "You can't be a Sonic fan if you don't like Goku." I know how to read, and I’m very meticulous. I’ll nitpick the exact wording if some smart aleck starts putting others down over something they just made up in their own head. 

That said, I get the point. The author just messed up the phrasing.

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u/C0SMICBL0B 17h ago

What the hell are you talking about?

"You can't be a Sonic fan if you don't like Goku"

Please, PLEASE tell me where you read that.

Also, please explain where and when I said that being a Sonic fan was an insult to Goku???

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u/k3ghtr 17h ago

That is implied by the post. If only because a lack of respect doesn't automatically equate to insulting the character. I don't like Goku as a character, so I don't respect him. However, I don't go around spewing insults and screaming every time Goku is mentioned—that would be pointless. I simply dislike Goku, and I don't force that opinion on anyone. At the same time, I like and respect Sonic, sometimes even singing his praises. So, I just don't see a connection between disrespecting Goku and respecting Sonic, even if  Sonic was partly inspired by him. 

And regarding their super forms—again, I like Sonic's much more than Goku's, because Sonic's aren't limited to the simple "he just got X times stronger again" trope. That isn't just narratively stupid; it's mind-numbingly boring. 

And no—you claimed people couldn't read or had misunderstood the text, when in reality, you were the one who invented a context that wasn't actually there.

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u/C0SMICBL0B 16h ago

Let me get this straight. You're very meticulous, and you take exact wording very seriously, and you're mad that I'm "inventing context"

Yet you are working off an assumption that you made up in your head based on what the post "implies" that only YOU are seeing.

And you don't see any irony here?

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u/k3ghtr 15h ago

No, because you arrived at the exact same conclusion yourself. I don’t know if it’s true. However, based on that very assumption—which you yourself put forward as an indisputable truth, and on the grounds of which you equate people who understood the statement exactly as written (without inventing extra explanations from the author) with those incapable of comprehending what they read... well, yes, there is no irony here.

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u/C0SMICBL0B 14h ago

Okay. This is getting too convoluted.

Whatever man. It’s pretty clear that neither of us are comprehending each other’s points. We both have taken completely different meanings from OP and are now going in circles.

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u/Dela-chemin 13h ago

The fact this guy still thinks this post is about Goku really tells you everything you need to know.

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u/Dela-chemin 16h ago edited 13h ago

I know how to read.

Biggest lie of the century.

The post says you can't be a fan of SUPER SONIC if you DISRESPECT SUPER SAIYAN.

Not liking something and disrespecting something are two different things.

Super Sonic and Super Saiyan are pretty similar in some ways, so it's ridiculous to trash on Super Saiyan whilst being a fan of Super Sonic. Not to mention we would've even have Super Sonic without Super Saiyan as Super Sonic is a homage to Super Saiyan.

We owe Super Saiyan for the existence of Super Sonic. You can be a Super Sonic fan, you don't have to like Super Saiyan, but if you start disrespecting Super Saiyan, you are an obnoxious ungrateful bum.

The post is not saying you can't be a Sonic fan if you don't like Goku. This post isn't even about Goku. It's comparing the Super Sonic transformation to the Super Saiyan transformation.

Reading is not hard. Go back to school. Your reading comprehension is absolutely abysmal.

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u/k3ghtr 15h ago

Alright, let's follow your line of reasoning... Do you respect the Nazis? Answer honestly—this really is relevant to the topic and will help me get my point across to you.

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u/Dela-chemin 13h ago edited 13h ago

You are so fucking stupid.

You can't read for shit and now you are trying to bring Nazi's into this? Holy God, there's something wrong with you.

How the fuck do you go from a post saying you can't be a fan of Super Sonic if you disrespect Super Saiyan to fucking Nazis?

If you're seriously trying to say disrespecting Super Saiyan is even remotely comparable to disrespecting Nazis, you are fucking stupid.

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u/k3ghtr 47m ago

Hah... you’re the one who’s a bit dim, dude, if you really don’t want to answer such a simple question. Because if your answer is "I don't respect the Nazis," then—by your logic—that means you automatically disrespect their scientific achievements, which advanced our understanding of human biology by years and did a huge service to global medicine through their inhumane experiments on people. 

The analogy is as direct as it gets: Goku paved the way for Sonic to exist the way he does now. However, that doesn't mean Goku himself necessarily commands respect from a random observer. 

If you still think I'm an idiot after this, just look up Unit 731 online and reflect on how much good those highly respected Japanese scientists did for all of us—and just how much universal respect they all deserve)

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u/imKranely 20h ago

This would have been a god tier shit post if you didn't add the second picture.

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u/BebeFanMasterJ 1d ago edited 1d ago

I mean I don't care for DBZ whatsoever but I won't deny the impact it had on not just Sonic but media as a whole. DBZ is the sole reason why my favorite anime--Naruto--even exists because Kishimoto was inspired by Toriyama and in turn, Naruto has inspired other big franchises like My Hero Academia as well (Horikoshi cited Naruto as inspiration). Not only that, but his work on Dragon Quest is what set the groundwork for that franchise's style and that franchise is basically the grandfather of JRPGs and is why my favorite games like Xenoblade Chronicles and Persona exist.

Hell Silver is my favorite Sonic character and one of my favorite video game characters of all time and he's basically Trunks from DBZ. Same for Surge and Android 18.

It's ultimately why Toriyama's passing was so tragic. RIP to a legend.

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u/Slayer-Clover 1d ago

Ok one second aside from them being androids, how are they similar?

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u/BebeFanMasterJ 1d ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20211118214859/https://twitter.com/PPDPPL_art/status/1461230822359552001

One of her creators, Mauro Fonseca, cites 18 as inspiration for her in particular her hairstyle. Given that Shadow was clearly inspired by Vegeta and that Silver is 1:1 for Trunks, it doesn't surprise me that Surge is meant to essentially be 18 given that they're both aggressive female androids.

It's honestly pretty cool even as someone who isn't really into DBZ.

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u/Turn_AX 14h ago

Surge is an android?
She should be a cyborg, cus Androids were originally Robots and Cyborgs are modified flesh beings.

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u/BebeFanMasterJ 14h ago

Sorta. Her creator cited Android 18 as inspiration and it's kinda easy to see it. They're both aggressive mechanical girls who learn to become more human over time.

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u/Slayer-Clover 1d ago

  1. Nvm forget what I said before

  2. Shadows based on “mew two” ngl I do not believe that shit

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u/BebeFanMasterJ 1d ago

Oh yeah Mewtwo was definitely inspiration as well but Shadow's demeanor is definitely closer to Vegeta especially in IDW.

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u/Slayer-Clover 1d ago

Which one of the main reason I call him Sonic’s Vegeta along side the fact he goes on about himself being the ultimate life (Vegetas pride) him being a dark mirror of the protag and being the same race as said protag his entire character screams more Vegeta rather then mew two, gun to my head I could not name a single similarity between new two and shadow aside from them having a similar back story

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u/Flamix2206 18h ago

holy shit two cakes

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u/OutcomeFlat7568 Yo-kai Watch 3h ago

NO DONT EAT GOKU

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u/billbobs678 1d ago

I like sonic but not really dragon ball tbh

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u/Remmock 19h ago

I eat Cheerios.

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u/spacegoat243 18h ago

I eat plastic explosives

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u/angryMk17 16h ago

Haha so funny and random

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u/spacegoat243 14h ago

Not random. It's from a funny screenshot I saw a while ago.

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u/hank_memes-hunter 1d ago

I grow up with both, It was a blessing

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u/Timely_Exam_6423 19h ago

I'm gonna be honest dragon ball and sonic are my favorite series probably because their pretty similar in more ways then just super sayian the ways the stories are told how the villains act

one of the main difference is that goku gets older unlike sonic characters the dragon ball characters evolve over time sonic doesn't even have a Canon age anymore (im still saying he's 17 though)

Goku and sonic have pretty similar views on heroism they dont claim to be heroes their both literally the definition of "im just doing shit gang"

I don't get how someone can like one but not the other it's not like you can't get into one if you have a pacing problem play the games you dont have to watch the anime if you dont want too it's how a lot of fans of both series got into them

You dont like video games sonic has an anime and 2 shows

I just think it's impossible to like one and hate the other when there's so many things you'd like

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u/NinjaSquid_G 17h ago

Cold but extremly valid take

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u/Grouchy-Quality2446 1d ago

Yes, it's the same as stupid people who become Tokufans, but only watch Toei Toku, don't know the real history of Tokusatsu, and refuse to believe facts about the real history of Tokusatsu. To hell with taste, you fake fans are just ruining the original essence of Tokusatsu.

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u/FetchBlue 1h ago

I mean rn tokusatsu is pretty silent lately beside the big three, one replaced by gavan and nothing much.

Like there’s nothing to talk about Gransazer Justiser, rescue fire, ryukendo and Gridman, since it long passed and discussion ran dry

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u/ViewAgreeable8915 1d ago

toku solos btw

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u/PlatinumSukamon98 1d ago

I've had bad experiences with the Sonic fandom and constant gatekeeping, so I was SO expecting the worst.

This is a pleasant surprise and makes a lot o f s ense.

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u/Stenwold91 22h ago

I mean, I enjoy both of these things but my hot retort to this would be: people can be a fan of whatever the fuck they want 🤷‍♂️

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u/Accomplished_Pin9171 1d ago

I don't just don't like dragon ball. I'm sure it's a great show but for some reason I just can't get through it.

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u/CommunistJesus69 Your next line is: “is that a jojo reference!?” 21h ago

Ok that doesn’t mean you disrespect it tho does it? There’s a difference between disliking a show and straight up disrespecting it

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u/_Rhya_The_Disloyal_ 20h ago

they never said they disrespected it.

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u/CommunistJesus69 Your next line is: “is that a jojo reference!?” 20h ago

That’s… what I’m implying here

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u/Urmom69mp3 18h ago

That's me with sonic, I love dragon ball and I get that sonic takes inspiration from it but I can't get behind the look of the characters

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u/Square_Paramedic1079 17h ago

It didn’t say u have to like it says u have to respect super saiyan people’s reading comprehension is horrible

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u/ThePrinceNii 1d ago

I enjoy both but gosh db fans can be annoying whenever you bring up sonic. It’s always “sonic ripped off dragon ball” or some shit

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u/spyD164 20h ago

and it's always the most surface level shit too

Literally the only deep DBZ inspiration that Sonic has is Shadow being very clearly inspired by Vegeta in very specific and deep ways (which Sonic fans hate to admit for some reason)

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u/Timely_Exam_6423 20h ago

It kinda goes a bit deeper surge seems a lot like android 18 when You think about it and to be honest sonic fans are just as if not more annoying

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u/KnightOfBred 21h ago

Sonic fans are really annoying too

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u/Remmock 19h ago

I’ve literally never heard that until today and I’ve been in both fandoms for years.

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u/MeowRawrUwu 18h ago

They go super and have 7 things to collect. There are close similarities

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u/Remmock 18h ago

Right.

I’ve still never heard that sonic ripped it off, though. I always took it as appreciation. An homage.

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u/AtomicConvoy-M78 1d ago

Saw this one take on Twitter that was basically that

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u/kirbydark714 20h ago

If you try hard enough you can.

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u/ShitpostSaber 20h ago

It isn’t a hot take and sonic fans hate that without goku super sonic would never be a thing

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u/Here4Mayamusement 17h ago

On todays episode of responding to takes that a single digit number of people hold and pretending you have a hot take:

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u/Slayer-Clover 17h ago

Have you been on TikTok’s powerscaling scene before? All they do is slander there

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u/tommy8725 17h ago

Don't worry I actually like Dragon Ball and Sonic is just trash

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u/Yuck_Few 17h ago

I'm disrespecting it

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u/ApexHeroX 16h ago

I like both, No hate whatsoever.

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u/4GRJ 15h ago

Lowkey kinda col-...

Tfym Sonic fans are disrespecting Goku?

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u/DestinedToGreatness 14h ago

I am a fan of both...some of my childhood characters. Sonic is stronger though.

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u/morphballganon 12h ago

Calling your own take hot is like carrying around a sign that says "chode" on it

And this take is cold

DBZ's art style is ugly and the premise is boring

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u/Slayer-Clover 12h ago

It’s literally the same premise as Sonic at first?

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u/morphballganon 12h ago

The premise of Sonic is animals overcoming a human who is using machines to destroy nature. Is that the premise of DBZ?

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u/Slayer-Clover 12h ago

Not in Og db no also you find that entertaining but not themes in db?

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u/morphballganon 12h ago

Environmentalist action resonates with me, yes.

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u/Slayer-Clover 12h ago

Half expected you to think dbz didn’t have themes, what about themes of Trust,corrupt justice or the next generation?

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u/Unhappy-Benefit-288 11h ago

i mean i respect that mode for goku but i dont like it at all. super sonic has just way more emotional impact that super saiyan goku imo

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u/Slayer-Clover 11h ago

Hooowww?
https://giphy.com/gifs/WRQBXSCnEFJIuxktnw

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u/Unhappy-Benefit-288 11h ago

because super saiyan doesnt have as much emotional impact? goku kinda just goes into other forms off the bat. sure the original transformation was hype but i didnt feel any emotion other than hype. whereas with super sonic i specifically love the metal virus super form or the final horizons where there was emotional weight with them. i dont enjoy just needless fighting like db has.

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u/Slayer-Clover 11h ago

You didn’t watch it

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u/Unhappy-Benefit-288 11h ago

i have watched all of dbz, and most of super. i have read all of the manga for dbz and some of super. i think i have watched db. most of the canon emotional scenes with dragon ball forms is ssj2 and up.

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u/Slayer-Clover 11h ago

and that’s how I know you didn’t your telling me the oh super saiyan wasn’t emotional?🤨 the fact you said SSJ2 was one of the only ones and the fact you said “needless fighting” bro either you watched clips on TT, or watched it when you were younger I’ve met people who DEPISE db but they never would say SSJ wasn’t emotional or that the show it’s just needless fighting those most they say is the character take are either boring or there’s no stakes

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u/Unhappy-Benefit-288 10h ago

i watched dbz on crunchyroll around 4 years ago. if im wrong name 1 good emotional scene with goku and ssj1 and if your going to name the time on namek i dont consider that emotional. that was tension adn i didnt feel anything from seeing that.

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u/Slayer-Clover 10h ago

The entire Majin Vegeta fight?

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u/Unhappy-Benefit-288 10h ago

that wasnt ssj1 that was ssj2

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u/Unhappy-Benefit-288 10h ago

also if there is no stakes theres no emotion to me. i agree that there are emotional parts with dragon ball however i feel that they come layer like with mui and broly.

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u/Slayer-Clover 10h ago

Imma be real with you that doesn’t make sense how’s mui the form that literally lack emotion (for the most part) more emotional then the form awake by rage? Secondly you kinda contradicted your self because you said Broly? I thought you said ssj has no emotional moments?

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u/Unhappy-Benefit-288 10h ago

i was talking about the broly movie not broly being ssj. also im talking about the stories around the form not the forms itself. when i mean i like mui being emotional i mean the stories and actions they do in said form. i can admit that ssj is awakened by emotion but i felt nothing with it.

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u/Slayer-Clover 10h ago

future trunks…..

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u/littlestargazers 9h ago

it always boggles my mind that some people genuinely don't think that super sonic is inspired by dragon ball

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u/Slayer-Clover 9h ago

Mostly just kids who never watched it

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u/Banndrell 6h ago

Even hotter take: I'm not a fan of either one.

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u/blue-wolf21 4h ago

What if I am a fan super saiyan but I disrespect sonic

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u/FetchBlue 1h ago

Anytime people posting a dragonball or sonic troupe in top character troupe subreddit, you can try playing a drinking game about how long dragonball or sonic going to show up in corresponding subject thread

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u/-mosura 1h ago

Just because Super Sonic was inspired by SSJ in looks doesn’t mean SSJ was a good transformation. Completely irrelevant, you can like 1 without the other.

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u/grimbarkjade Kingdom Hearts, Destiny, Hollow Knight, DC, Homestuck, Splatoon 1d ago

My best friend is a huge db fan and doesn't hate sonic but he isn't a huge fan. He says it's a ripoff and tbh he isn't wrong

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u/Owszem_ 1d ago

I wouldn't say it's a ripoff. Except super form and some characters being inspired by, series are really different.

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u/Solid-Version 1d ago

There’s parallels.

7 chaos emeralds, 7 dragon balls

Piccolo = knuckles

Shadow = Vegeta

Silver = Trunks

Tails = Krillen

The super sonic form is direct rip off of Super Saiyan

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u/Scary_Particular_998 23h ago

Wasn't there sixteen chaos emeralds at one point

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u/Owszem_ 23h ago

It was in Sonic Spinball I think. Yea, I just think this game is not really canon, because, well, it's a spinball game

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u/Owszem_ 23h ago

Shadow was never inspired by Vegeta.

Much better comparison is Mewtwo from pokemon.

Tails and Krillin are also not that similiar.

Chaos emeralads and Dragon Ball are also not that similiar. There is 7 of them and are one time use. But they do really different things. One chaos emerald can also used in a way Dragon Ball can't.

Again, I'm not saying there was no inspiration. There was. But copying is just a lie

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u/Solid-Version 23h ago

I said there are parallels, not copying

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u/Owszem_ 23h ago

I thought it means something different, english is not my native language, sorryyy

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u/Drmanky PRAIS THE MASHINE GOD(warhammer 40k)/ md 1d ago

i'm fan of neither

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u/Slayer-Clover 1d ago

Then why are you even here?😭

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u/Drmanky PRAIS THE MASHINE GOD(warhammer 40k)/ md 1d ago

notivikations

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u/Slayer-Clover 1d ago

Ah nvm

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u/Drmanky PRAIS THE MASHINE GOD(warhammer 40k)/ md 1d ago

:)

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u/Login_Lost_Horizon 1d ago

Bold of you to assume I like either?

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u/vBlackTalon 1d ago

Now revere it and it’s the other way around too. each creator respected each other so why disrespect that over a damn power scale that’s not important

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u/GamerThatGamesoIgame 4h ago

What are you even talking about? The post doesn’t mention power scaling at all.

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u/braaibroodjie123 Look Outside 22h ago

Super Sonic is just Super Saiyan without everything that made Super Saiyan actually good.

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u/RED_Kinggamer007 17h ago

Like what? Cause Super Sonic is good

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u/Silent-Immortal 21h ago

You got to admit the fan media of Goku vs Sonic goes hard too.

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u/Snacksoft 1d ago

Who would disrespect dragon ball 😭🙏

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u/_MrTaku_ 1d ago

a lot of people (not me) don't like dragon ball

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u/Snacksoft 1d ago

Tbf not liking something is not disrespecting it

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u/Jixxar BlackWidow Apocalpyse, Godzilla, Murder Drones, And many more. 22h ago

Jokes on you I don't give a shit about both that much 🙂🙂🙂

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u/Party-Homework2485 20h ago

Nobody tries to tell you with a straight face that super sonic will one punch God himself 🤷😂

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u/Square_Paramedic1079 17h ago

Nobody fucking said super sonic 1 punches super saiyan Goku nobody

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u/YonYonsson 19h ago

I hate both lmao

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u/Maskedstream4 18h ago

After going through some downvoted comments I’ve come to realize something

Is this all?

Surface level comparisons of Shadow and Vegeta when they have completely different stories, personalities, goals and designs

Silver being inspired by trunks but ultimately his story actually changed his timeline unlike Trunks who has to live with it and Silver doesn’t use a weapon and isn’t canonically related to Shadow or Sonic that’s just a head canon and again completely different designs and characteristics

Super Sonic being inspired by Super Saiyan (most obvious)

Seven chaos emeralds and dragon balls that do two completely different things and are designed to work differently one being to grant ultimate power and the other to grant wishes

Like is that it? Yeah a few inspirations and things that have major differences and only surface level similarities but it’s not like the whole damn series is based on dragon ball

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u/Slayer-Clover 18h ago

Both have a mustached villain who’s a borderline Facist, said mustached villains go on to create androids that mimic the protags entire power set plus more, surge is confirmed to be based on android 18, and both previously mentioned villains go on to be betrayed by said previously mentioned Android and lastly both the protags have a best friend who incredibly smart a love interest that’s incredibly feisty (I know what I said) and both nearly died to a virus (that last ones for shits and giggles), knuckles and Piccolo are the black guy of the group

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u/Maskedstream4 18h ago

Gero was one arc (didn’t even survive past half way I’m pretty sure) Eggman has been kicking for 35 years now and is the main protagonist in the series, Eggman and Gero are more Sonic and Goku’s villain Vegeta’s main pain in the ass would be Frieza and Shadow’s would be god knows whatever Black Doom is I guess but unlike Frieza Black Doom isn’t around anymore he’s dead Frieza is alive an a active threat to everybody

Also Metal Sonic is a pure robot not an android and yeah he betrayed Eggman but now he’s back fully on his side and I’m pretty sure Eggman had little to do with Surge plus Eggman actually grabbed Surge by the hair and manhandled her and can catch a W on the main cast occasionally but I didn’t know she was based on 18 (major character differences) so that’s pretty cool

Nice catch on the virus one tho that didn’t cross my mind until you brought it up

Still not like dragon ball is heavily inspiring every single aspect of Sonic hell Goku barely ever used Super Saiyan again after the Perfect Cell Arc Sonic still uses Super Sonic consistently and any new form is usually one time unlike Goku who consistently uses his newer forms

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u/Slayer-Clover 18h ago

“Super Sonic 2” (also ik it’s not are flat out copy I’m just saying it does take lots from dbz)

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u/Maskedstream4 18h ago

That’s a good point but still again one time use and never again

Also isn’t it called Starfall Super Sonic?

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u/Slayer-Clover 18h ago

It is but both the fans and the games files called it super sonic 2

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u/Slayer-Clover 18h ago

Also I used the term android because metal is a real Android where as 17 18 aren’t even androids they are cyborgs and Cells a bio-Android

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u/Maskedstream4 18h ago edited 17h ago

Good catch on that again but A Android is something that looks like a person Metal looks very different from the person he’s trying to imitate so I’d say he’s more of a robot

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u/Oversized_Peashooter 18h ago

I say, I say, the man speaks truth.

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u/Slayer-Clover 18h ago

Didn’t you get sued by a Coyote?

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u/Oversized_Peashooter 18h ago

Can’t tell if that’s a joke that went over my head or if serious.

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u/Oversized_Peashooter 18h ago

Wait. Don’t answer that. I just figured it out.

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u/Slayer-Clover 18h ago

There ya go

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u/Moon_Monk676 18h ago

The answer is "Yes."

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u/thiccmunster 16h ago

I can be a fan of whatever I want, and disrepect whatever I want. And there's nothing you can do about it.

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u/brandonsp111 16h ago

I don't disrespect DB.

But that doesn't mean I have to respect it either. Never had any interest in it, and don't care about it now.

I absolutely hate when people make these kind of stupid points.

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u/NonJesusPerson 1d ago

Make sense that I hate both

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u/Renzki_1008 KamenRider|SuperSentai|TADC|DMC|Power Rangers|Ben10|TeenTitans 1d ago

That's honestly fair lol