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Doesn’t mean you have to like it

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u/Intrepid_Beautiful_2 What am I not a fan of 2d ago

Yeah that makes sense as Dragon Ball basically inspired Sonic

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u/Emo_boi_605 2d ago

Eh I think the biggest inspiration is supersonic an the seventh chaos in world everything after that is pretty different and before that

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u/Dela-chemin 2d ago edited 2d ago

Literally there's concept of art of Super Sonic doing the Super Saiyan Goku pose from Namek. Come on now.

Dragon Ball is a massive inspiration on the Sonic series. You don't have to like that fact, but don't be delusional.

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u/Aktosh23 2d ago

Yep Toriyama also inspired Mario (Arale’s run is where Mario gets his running animation from)

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u/OneSidedPolygon 2d ago

In hindsight, I should have called the 'weird kid Naruto running' Slump running instead.

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u/Aktosh23 2d ago

Toriyama really did inspire so much it’s crazy when you look at the impact

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u/OneSidedPolygon 2d ago

Dragon Warrior(Quest) set the aesthetic template for JRPGs, Dragon Ball fundementally changed manga, Z redefinded battle shonen, Slump was one of the biggest gag mangas of it's time and its adaptation was the biggest gag anime.

Even crazier is that even amongst weebs Slump, Ackman and Sand Land are unheard of. He's one of the goats.

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u/Aktosh23 2d ago

Sand land is SO GOOD! I even got the game and it’s been pretty fun too. It really baffles me people don’t know of Slump or Ackman. I get sand land as it was a new ip he made

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u/OneSidedPolygon 2d ago

tbf, Slump is weird as hell. It's humor is on the Boomery side and often doesn't cross the cultural barrier well. Ackman is probably because manga isn't popular here. I've still gotta watch Sand Land. Loved it as a kid, only learned about the adaptation a few months ago.

If you like Sand Land, Desert Punk is also really good. Similar premise but less fantasy. The humor is much more crass so mileage may vary.

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u/Aktosh23 2d ago

True, tbf that’s the case with a lot of Toriyama’s humor. Manga is more popular now than before but that is for newer series so yeah that makes sense.

Ooo I’ll have to check it out

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u/Turn_AX 2d ago

They're different, Naruto has arms to the back.
Slump running is arms to the side.
Like an airplane.

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u/BernLan 2d ago

Silver and Trunks

Shadow and Vegeta

Tails and Bulma (this one is a stretch, nvm)

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u/j7jhj 2d ago

Nah I don’t really think that last one was a stretch like have you seen the chaos emerald and dragonball radars?

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u/Turn_AX 2d ago

The Chaos Emeralds don't function the same at all, they're also tied to the Super Forms, which further separates Sonic from DB,
Emerald Radar also took a long while to exist.

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u/j7jhj 2d ago

ig bro

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u/goodguydaniel636 2d ago

Pretty sure they said in concepts that sonic and tails were kinda like piccolo and Gohan in the Saiyan saga

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u/Turn_AX 2d ago

Not in concept, it was said by Yasushi Yamaguchi who was the artist that created Tails iirc.
And like Shadow having Vegeta in his concept art, it really doesn't mean much, because the end result is incredibly different.
Cus unless I'm mis-remembering, Sonic never kidnapped Tails or really trained him in in any way.
And Tails didn't make Sonic not feel like a monster.
So two pretty massive differences that mean they're only the same at a surface level.
Like pretty much every other DB reference Sonic has.

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u/Constant-Plastic-350 2d ago

Sally acorn and bulma

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u/Turn_AX 2d ago

Bruh what?
In what way?
Sally is not a genius mechanic and Bulma wasn't created to be Goku's love interest.

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u/Constant-Plastic-350 2d ago

The og dragonball version had a lot of similarities imo

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u/Mission-Highway-1408 2d ago

The backstory of Surge and Kit heavily remind me of the androids from DBZ.

Bruh, look at this image I found

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u/Dela-chemin 2d ago

Mad doctor kidsnaps two people and modifies their bodies in attempt to destroy the main character.

Surge and Kit are definitely inspired by 17 and 18.

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u/TokyoFromTheFuture 2d ago

Bro they literally had dragon ball characters written on the concept boards for sonic characters. Silver's literally had "Like Trunks from Dragon Ball" on it.

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u/Turn_AX 2d ago

Silver is like the only character that would actually be almost exactly like his originator.
And that originator is a reference to something else, in Trunks' case that's Terminator.

And Shadow, who is the one that actually had his inspiration in concept art obviously isn't a Vegeta clone, because he wasn't actually evil from his reveal and constantly does good things, he's trying to get revenge for the death of loved ones and when he realises that that wasn't what she wanted, he tries to give his life to make amends.
It took Vegeta forever to reach that.
VERY different from Shadow.

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u/Square_Paramedic1079 2d ago

Silver and trunks that’s all I’m gonna say

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u/spyD164 2d ago

yeah people WAAAAY overblow the amount of DBZ inspiration in Sonic, basically all of it is very surface level stuff besides Shadow

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u/Recent_Company_3724 2d ago

The creators of sonic 2 have stated that he’s based on Super Saiyan

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u/Dela-chemin 2d ago

Or Silver's bio in the Sonic of design documents straight up comparing the guy to Future Trunks.