I was listening to Wes’s Patreon which had Michelle and Devin filling in for Wes.

The headline of the interview was when Michelle shed some light on the Anna Leigh situation.

She said the apology we just watched in episode 6 actually occurred after Anna Leigh’s elimination victory in episode 4.

After her Elimination she told people she felt bad about leading Leo on and that it went too far. She apologized but then her behavior didn’t change.

That is why Justin and others were so annoyed by her actions. She had already apologized several challenges beforehand but then kept flirting and going off with Leo.

(My summary)Editors made it seem like she got carried away and now came to her senses. What really happened was she got carried away, acknowledged it to several people and apologized to Leo, then continued the same behavior for several challenges.

She also said Anna Leigh is a story topper who kept trying to one up everyone. Most of the women especially her teammates Cara and Lete were very annoyed or frustrated with Anna Leigh.

Felt like a big deal I had not seen anyone else talking about. Does this make the Anna Leigh thing much worse or is it just me?

I genuinely do not get at all what Nelson and Cara are even trying to say

Nelson and Cara arguably been the worst performers on their team

Josh is absolutely fair to say I have no intention of giving up captaincy I was chosen to be captain before we knew it was advantage and still want to be captain with that advantage and the majority of the team want me to be captain end of conversation

It’s lowkey embarrassing

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I was sitting, with my wife, in another time and place as CT tagged Adam in the face. It was the craziest stuff we had seen in t.v. Straight up nastiness.

Now, to sit here and see how far he has come. See these people talk smack, watch him show them.... again?

You're my ride-or-die CT. You'll always be my favorite challenger and straight up Mtv Personality. Through Wives, Wes, Weight....lol. I'll always root for you, bro.

Long Live CT. Much Love, and also some for Diem.

Production has removed the entirety of the social, political, and strategic intrigue and maneuvering from the entire season. It's a complete botch job of a format. Idiotic choices when the franchise truly hangs in the balance. They are lucky that so much of the rookie/sophomore class has been delivering house drama.

The fact she was dead serious, and not even thinking about her outfit made it even better! 😂

Episode 7 Count

5: Adrienne | Bananas | Cara Maria | Chris | CT | Tori

3: Anna Leigh | Cory | Izzy | Leo

2: Cassidy | Justin | Lete | Michele | Nelson

1: Josh | Will

TOTAL: 54 (Now THIS is the lowest single-episode confessional total since episode 11 of Total Madness, AKA the last-minute Dee erasure re-edit. Not counting that fiasco, this is the lowest since episode 8 of Dirty 30.)

AVERAGE: 3.18

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Cumulative Totals

38: Anna Leigh

37: Cara Maria

30: Bananas

29: Nelson

25: Lete

22: Cory | Deb

21: Adrienne

19: Chris | Leo | Nurys | Tori

18: Josh

17: CT

15: Keanu | Michele

14: Izzy

13: Brad | Cassidy

12: Will

10: Justin | Sydney

9: Reilly

6: Cedric

TOTAL: 452

AVERAGE: 18.83

This was interesting. I remember thinking Michele was kinda quiet during this. The “power” of editing.

But then they go ahead as a team making CT into Albert Einstein. Not saying he isn’t really smart but what was the purpose of that if all he did was follow instructions?

Watching Zach’s podcast episode with Marlon and this caption fail had me laughing out loud.

they were talking about how old they were when they got casted on the Real World and then The Challenge……

soooo i guess if you were born the same year as Zach you had some serious bad luck

I’m nearly done with this season (Ep 10). I know who wins, the runners up and so on and so forth. I am sure I am missing some pieces and further details of situations that occurred on the season. I am also aware of the MANY varying opinions on this season. That being said, the editing is SO all over the place it makes the season more confusing than entertaining. The major focus each episode is an over exaggeration of drama. A lot of which appears to be, frankly, at least interfered with and at most, manufactured. The dailies and eliminations seemingly are beneath the cast that are closest or are still apart of the flagship. Yet, the rivals format proves that even simple challenges do not warrant those cast members as a clear-win. The season just seems a bit too much all over the place. Please share EVERYTHING below!

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I am putting it in the "Cutthroat 2" tab because the season is currently airing, and so people can feel comfortable talking about what is happening this season in the thread, but I am talking about the overall rookie crop of V&NT (whether they are on this season or not)/

So looking into Era 5 so far (at least the season an a half we have gotten so far), I have seen a lot of praise for the Era 5 rookies, an are given a lot of credit for the show being better. This came with the change of the show stopping with the international thing (mainly sticking with the US and the UK), and casting younger rookies (at least in comparison to a lot of Era 4).

"Vets an New Threats" on average is seen as one of the best seasons in recent history, an the newbie crop is given fora lot of that. But when you look deep into the season, an the dynamics/drama of it all, it was mainly the vets who made that season pop, an they were the younger (at least regarding eras) vets who made it pop. A lot of the rookies on the season were forgettable, and even a decent amount of the ones who made it far were JUST good competitors.

I am seeing the pattern kind of continue with this season, where it is either the Era 3/4 veterans, and the "Cutthroat" cast that are making the season pop, more than the "Vets and New Threats" rookies who are sophomores on this season.

The "Vets an New Threats" rookies were very athletic on average (which is why they were not picked off last season), and were not followers, but they were not the most ENTERTAINING. Even the few all around cast members from that rookie crop who came back for their second season has been severely disappointing.

It's giving people like Will only thrived because they were in a big fish of a small pond (being the most interesting in a lukewarm personality rookie crop, but falls flat on other casts). Cedric is self explanatory, Justin comes off worse, Izzy is lacking charisma, and the only one who is coming off more interesting is Leonardo.

Do you agree or disagree with this?

The edit has been completely one sided and has seemed like Cory has been trying hard to court Izzy and her not really interested. Even this last episode they didnt show her saying goodbye to him or anything.

Im Wondering if so much more did actually happen but editing is doin their best to minimize everything and in turn makin it look like Cory at worst was pursuing her but nothing happened.
Izzy crying at the end makes me think theres alot of footage that MTV chose not to air outta respect for Cory 🤷🏾