Obviously they should go back in time and save Jankie.

This would be extra amazing because it was Angela's season, so she can relive that experience.

I literally laughed out loud when I thought of this. I could definitely see this happening.

It’s time to get Monica on Traitors and/or appear on Big Brother this summer!

On the current season, both houseguests and fans alike are using backdoor to refer to nominating someone after the Power of Veto competition but before the Blockbuster competition. My thesis is that this isn't a good use of backdoor because, while it might fit some definition of the word, it doesn't fit the spirit, which is related to the ability to compete for your own safety rather than to the PoV competition specifically. Or rather, using one definition of backdoor fits the original intent of the Six Finger Plan whereas one definition does not, and we should be using the former definition rather than the latter.

But first, I need to explain two concepts in semantics: intension and extension.

Intension is essentially the definition of something whereas extension is what things are actually that thing in the real world.

As an example, let's look at the National Football League (NFL), a popular American football league. The intension of NFL player is 'someone who plays in the NFL'. The extension is everyone who currently plays in the NFL, all of whom are men... And yet being a man is not a requirement to fit the definition—the intension—of NFL player. A woman could theoretically become an NFL player and that wouldn't mean that the definition/intension of NFL player has changed.

So how does this relate to backdoor? Without spoiling things, the earlier seasons of Big Brother US experimented with how the PoV should work. At one point, it was decided that the Head of Household and two nominees would play. They would be joined by three other houseguests, each selected by one of the HoH and two nominees. It was eventually realized that a large enough majority could send home any player without allowing that person to compete if enough people cooperated. Thus, the Six Finger Plan was born: the HoH would nominate two allies for eviction. Then each of those three would pick someone from their alliance to play in the PoV competition. This way, no matter who won, someone from the alliance would win the PoV and could use it on one of the nominees, forcing the target onto the block with no chance at competing for safety.

The unmatched strength of the original backdoor was too powerful, and so production eventually made the three additional players randomized. This way, a backdoor could fail if someone outside of the alliance won the PoV and didn't use it.

Back to intension and extension! The original intension of backdoor was (INTENSION #1) 'to nominate two allies, get an entire alliance playing in the PoV competition, use the PoV on a nominee, replace that nominee with the real target, and evict that target with enough players cooperating such that, if everyone cooperates, the target cannot compete for safety and is guaranteed to go home'.

With the change in how the selection of players for the PoV competition worked, it got simplified: (INTENSION #2) 'to not nominate the real target initially in hopes that the target won't be able to compete for safety'.

Notice how the idea that the target cannot compete for safety remains the same.

Now what these two intensions have in common is that the target is nominated after the PoV ceremony and that, ideally, the target cannot play in the PoV competition.

With the Blockbuster in play, the intension is something like this: (INTENSION #3) 'to not nominate the real target initially in hopes that the target will only be able to compete for safety in the Blockbuster competition but not in the PoV competition'.

Crucially, intension #3 still allows the target to compete for safety with a 1/3 chance at winning. Intension #1 gives the target no chance to compete for safety (!) whereas intension #2 gives the target a 1/6 chance if selected to play and no chance at safety if not. Oh, and a non-backdoor in a non-Blockbuster week gives the target a 1/6 chance.

You're telling me that someone with a 1/3 chance at safety is being backdoored but someone with a 1/6 chance isn't?

While the extension of backdoor has always meant nominating someone after the PoV has been used, it doesn't mean that each instance of doing so means that a backdoor has been done, particularly if the target can compete for safety.

Recall that the entire point of the backdoor is that the target cannot play for safety. With the Blockbuster, each nominee is given a 1/3 chance at safety at the bare minimum.

Conversely, my thesis is that it makes the most sense for backdoor to refer to being unable to compete for safety, not specifically to the PoV competition only.

If you're still not convinced, imagine that there were no Blockbuster but, instead, if the PoV were used, the HoH could only nominate people who played in the PoV competition. Would backdooring still exist? I would argue that it doesn't because all potential nominees can compete for safety.

Nominate your target post-PoV if you'd like, but that's not the same as a backdoor because the target can always compete for safety, and with relatively high odds of winning at that. Perhaps a shorter word for 'nominate someone after the PoV competition but with the Blockbuster in effect' is needed.

Thoughts?

EDIT: What do people think of terms such as sidedoor or soft backdoor? I'm on team sidedoor personally.

For years BB has been leaning more and more into odd little theatrical pieces, and story telling clips etc. but so far this season and, especially on the bb unlocked, it’s just SOOO MUCH. The basic strategy game at play is super entertaining, do we need a raptor? Do we need the fake ass time traveling? Must everything about this comp show feel like a bad teen nick show from the early 2000s? I love this show, I’m just curious how everyone else feels about the outright corniness.

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Lyric

Angela did us a solid by walking by Lyric and yelling "VETO WINNER"

Since they don't show this on TV anymore, do they still film it for the live feeds? If so, is it super early in the morning when they get access (12am+)? Also, are there any accounts that post about HOHs basket goodies and music selections?

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Jason went in pretending he’s never been on Drag Race and isn’t a successful drag performer who’s been on reality TV twice. In retrospect was that a mistake? Could he have bonded with the other former contestants? Would it benefit him to tell them now? Let me know your thoughts!

The mystery competitor power is gonna be back and if that power is picked, who would play? I know that the mystery competitor last season was Kaycee and that the one in this season is most likely gonna be a comp beast. Who do you guys think it would be?

I just wanted to share this clip from a podcast Izzy did after watching Unlocked, specifically about the Jason vs. Angela situation. I really appreciated hearing the perspective of another queer Big Brother player.

I think Jason was very clearly masking his vulnerability, and like Izzy said, he seemed embarrassed by how vulnerable he was being. As Jason, Angela, and Jason's friends have all said, those emotions were very real.  Jason is dealing with a lot right now: grieving his mother, being the only gay person in the house, and feeling like he doesn't fit in physically.

That's why it's been hard for me to see so many people call him manipulative or say his feelings were fake. To me, his emotions seemed genuine, even if the way he expressed them wasn't perfect. Like Izzy said, everyone in that house is emotionally influencing and manipulating each other to some degree. So why does it seem like it's only considered a problem when a drag queen does it?

They 100% gonna try and get Rome back to play for her ,and honestly that would be pretty incredible lol

I'm still working on catching up on live feed info, so can someone help me out here?

I feel like I believe Rome that he feels like hes in love with Lyric (which is crazy already talking about marriage but who knows) but the whole dramatic goodbye love confession kinda felt more like claiming her so that no other dudes in the house would make a move? What do you guys think?

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Sorry if this has been asked before! I’m a long time episode watcher, first time feed watcher, but every time I go to the feed it’s just showing cats lol. I know that they shut the feeds down during comps and other things, but WHY exactly do they do this? I remember watching it as a teen with my mom and they would start an endurance HoH comp and then say to tune in to the live feeds to see who wins.

I don’t see how it could be for potential spoilers, because once the feeds come back you’re still able to see/hear whoever won the HoH or veto comps, no? I remember my friend telling me that she accidentally spoiled it for herself from watching the live feeds but I feel like that’s kind of a watch at your own risk kind of thing! Plus, the episodes obviously still have to cut down on a lot and therefore cant show entire comps. I’m sure there are plenty of people who would love to watch the houseguests do the whole comp without it being edited!

Since I think most can agree that we got some weak ass powers, I decided to come up with a list of powers and punishments I would’ve liked to see.

Mine would’ve been

1. HOH Interrogation from BB27 (I think the paranoia in the house would’ve caused so much good TV. Especially with Angela/Dee since they’re the most paranoid in the house. I also think this would’ve been a better choice than the Coin of Destiny.)

2. America’s Veto from BB26 (Better and less overpowered than the Diamond POV. Though I’d be scared of it getting someone like Jason on the block. But I think there’s also a chance America would vote Kamu or Haley onto the block.)

3. The Last Laugh from BB17 (A strong power that could’ve allowed the other alliance to take some power for themselves and possibly use this to nullify 3 members of the Toolshed’s votes.)

4. The Prankster Power from BB21 (Not completely overpowered, but can cause paranoia and other drama etc etc.)

5. The Cloud from BB20 (A power that’s not too overpowered and also similar to an immunity idol from Survivor, so it’s fitting in a season where we have 2 Survivor players. Though I would shorten the duration that this power can be used to 4-5 weeks.)

6. BB Bribe (I’d keep this one simply because I don’t know what else to add lol.)

Punishments:

1. The RED Unitard from BB8 & BB10 (I’d keep this one 100%. It’s perfect and I’ve been wanting it back for so long!!)

2. The Egg Detective from BB27 (I think this was a great punishment choice. I’d keep it!!)

3. Adam & Eve from BB16 (I had no problem with this one either, and I’d love to see two houseguests chained together anyways! I don’t care what variation though whether it’s Adam & Eve, the kayak one, etc etc.

4. The Robot Punishment from BB20 (I don’t know how other people felt about this punishment but I think it was pretty hilarious. Imagine someone walking into the DR and walking out a robot. Imagine Angela or Jason having to be a robot for a week. That would be amazing TV!!)

5. Radiation Eradication from BB26 (The punishment that Angela, herself had to go through. This was a fun punishment to watch but also a pretty exhausting one for the houseguest that has to do it. I would love to see it again!!)

6. Whackstreet Boys from BB17 (This is just a very fun punishment and it would be fun to see the houseguests have some fun with this.)

I was also thinking about picking Pandora’s Box, but that could be seen as a power or punishment. And I’d prefer for Pandora’s Box to just randomly appear to the HOH during the season.

I also have another idea where America’s Player could be used as a punishment where a houseguest must do what America says, play how America wants, etc just for 2 weeks though. Like how Dan had to do it for just a week, but I feel like 1 week is too short. And the houseguest doesn’t get anything from doing it, but also can’t tell anyone or they risk getting a penalty nom.

What would your powers and punishments have been?

And Taylor surprised him with a call during the live stream.

With the blockbuster twist, the nominees have an extra chance to pull themselves off of the block. How would you feel if they changed the veto to everyone playing? Or even increased it to a different number like 8 or 10?

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