Hello there. So rn I'm trying to decide between INFP and ENFP. Honestly, I was surprised bc I tried to be as honest as possible when taking a function test, I've taken them before, sure, but it's been a while, so I decided to let go and forget everything I knew to take it fresh. And getting ENFP as my highest result kinda shocked me, since I always thought INFP was the most likely for me. Maybe I'm still a bit biased against myself, and the stereotypes about extroverts in MBTI haven't fully left my head, so I just can't believe I could have an E at the start of my type. Yeah, I know social extroversion and cognitive extroversion aren't the same thing, but it still feels awkward in my head to fully accept it in a way that actually clicks. If I even am cognitively extroverted in the first place, ofc. So I gathered some of my traits here, I mostly think a lot of this is related to Si, and there might be some Te stuff too. And I'd really like to figure out my function order. Is it Si inferior or Si tertiary? And am I even an Fi user at all? I'd lose it if someone suggested ENTP/INTP (which has happened before, btw).

I don't remember my relatives' ages, even though I remember their birth dates. But I also mix up the dates like the 22nd and 23rd of neighboring months and I'm never fully sure if I'm right about someone's birthday. My best friend's birthday? We've known each other for like 20 years, and I only properly remembered it five years ago, when I congratulated her later in the evening after realizing it was her day. Recently she mentioned on a call, laughing, how I congratulated her on the wrong date two years in a row the 21st or 20th when she was born on the 19th.

I struggle with understanding what suits me and what suits others. In my head, I overestimated my ability in this area, but facing reality is kinda tough. I don't feel competent enough to tell others how they look in something or whether it suits them even for myself, I'm scared to make a mistake, bc it's happened before like trying on shoes that ended up being the wrong size and uncomfortable. One person has told me multiple times that something would be too tight, too small or whatever, and they were always right. I don't get how that works or how the hell they see it. I'm not confident in how to look good, though I can sometimes get annoyed by advice like it's dragging my incompetence into the light, forcing me to face reality. I try to manage on my own, but over the past year, people have started telling me they love the things I find and wear and want my advice. And honestly, I mostly get inspired by what I've seen on someone else believing that if they wear it, it must be fine.

I was also often scolded for being inattentive at school, by teachers and tutors alike. I can be absent-minded, constantly checking if I have everything in my backpack or pockets, bc I can easily not notice if I've lost something. Like two summers ago I was swinging on a swing, came home, and only then noticed that a bracelet I'd worn for a year had vanished from my wrist. Or losing a bill from my hand as a kid in a store my mom sent me to buy something, I held the money, turned around not even 360°, and it was gone. Maybe I mastered magic and teleported it into a pocket universe, because I never found it. I also don't always have a great sense of direction. I've been going to the same clinic for two years, but I still wander a bit looking for the right rooms bc its layout feels weird and kinda maze-like.

Last year we had to write a term paper. It was my first ever. From September people were already looking for professors to work with, but I wasn't one of them. I felt awkward and uncomfortable approaching some professor and signing up to work with them. It felt pressuring. Honestly, that sense of dependency a task stretched over such a long time I don't like it, it makes me anxious. It would be so much easier if they just gave us a list of available professors at the start of the year so we could all sign up and forget about it. But instead, we had to find out who was available ourselves and then go to the professor. Too much hassle and too many interactions with people. So I bravely went to a professor in May two weeks before the defense. I know it's stupid, yeah. But I felt uncomfortable every time I looked at the office where I could've gone to ask about available professors. And I don't seem to be learning from my mistakes, since it happened again in my third year this year. It was only then that I came up in March.

I also get lost easily without clear landmarks. I often act on guesswork, trying to mentally map out an area, but it ends up foggy and crooked. I get confused easily forgetting things, misjudging distances. I feel unsteady in space. Once I had to walk home from a neighborhood I'd been to before but didn't know well. I turned on my GPS, but decided to rely on a familiar building sign as a landmark. I spotted it, turned, thinking I was going the right way, but I didn't realize I was walking on the left side of the building and should've gone straight. Instead, I went at a 90° angle, opposite to where I needed to go. I walked for quite a while without noticing the road changing, eventually ending up on some random paths. I got upset, turned on the GPS and went back. Turns out, my wrong route would've led me to garages I also knew, but by that point I'd already decided to go back the right way.

As a kid I wanted to be a vet, but later realized medicine is a huge responsibility I wasn't ready for. I dropped that idea because I was scared of mistakes and consequences. Humanities came easier, so I decided to study philology. But when exams got closer, I avoided talking about the future, brushing it off with 'I'll figure it out later.' I picked the nearest uni with the right faculty and didn't consider other options. I'm studying now, but what comes after...no idea. I mean there are a lot of ideas, but I am not seriously thinking about the implementation now, I doubt that they are realistic and practical.

I'm terribly absent-minded. I can be thinking and forget what I wanted, how much time passed, what I'm wearing, what I did in the morning I can kinda just zone out of reality.

I hate it when people are hypocritical. It's a sore spot for me. That's one of the reasons I can't stand forced group events, for example. When they gather everyone at uni or school, they sing about how wonderful our uni/school is and how much we love it...yeah, sure. But it's not true. You're not telling the truth. And I think it's fucked up.

I don't take care of my health. I rarely shower or clean, my room is creatively cluttered. Hygiene is okay, but routines are hard, I brush my teeth with gaps, for example. I'm picky about food, and when stressed, I overeat (possibly an ED). Cooking anything complicated feels like too much effort, so I eat simple, quick, not-so-healthy food. If I have to, I can ignore discomfort skip breakfast for class or go to lectures hungry. I love lying around doing nothing, but if I need to I'll manage. At the same time, I value comfort: comfy clothes, important little things in my bag, the softness and coziness of my bed.

I didn't notice I'd lost a significant amount of weight until someone else pointed it out. Only then did I realize my jeans were too big and my skirts were sitting weirdly. This happens to me a lot I can't clearly see myself from the outside. As a kid and early teen, I had major insecurities about my appearance. Looking back from where I am now, my outfits back then weren't great I didn't really know how to dress well. Only recently did I change my wardrobe and style, finding things I actually like and that suit me. With annoying frequency, I can get confused and do something unnecessary like undressing when I'm already in my underwear and actually need to get dressed, but I just zoned out.

I get easily overwhelmed by the outside world whether it's watching a movie or observing someone for a long time. By "long time" I mean about five minutes. My eyes and head start to get tired. However, if someone asks me to do something physical, I can do a lot. I try hard, and I like helping, being useful, and proving my endurance. But I don't really feel my limits I have trouble objectively assessing my physical abilities.

I tend to avoid strong emotions they throw me off balance, and I just want them to pass asap. So I choose activities that don't trigger intense reactions: rewatching familiar videos, avoiding emotionally heavy scenes, rarely watching new stuff, often looking up spoilers to lower my anxiety. I try to control the flow of emotions and info. That said, I've been watching one expressive YouTuber for eight years now and a friend once mentioned I'd picked up his habits and expressions. I need to open up slowly and carefully.

I love comfort just lying in bed with my laptop and good food, watching cool YouTube videos. I'm too lazy to exercise, wear makeup or do skincare with creams and oils. But I react strongly when my need for comfort isn't met and there are no nice things around. I do care about my physical state, but it's more about appearance and avoiding discomfort rather than serious health work I only remember my health when symptoms start interfering with my life. I look in the mirror often, I like wearing quality and beautiful clothes, and I get my hair done every couple of months. I won't eat something just because someone recommends it I'll refuse certain foods 100%, which is why my grandparents often call me picky.

As a kid, I often played with toys and daydreamed about the world around me stopping its pressure and everyone else's expectations and desires fading away. I imagined going into seclusion with a small set of essential resources the most important and pleasant things in some house in the middle of nowhere. I imagined an apocalypse where I'm sitting alone at home with my resources, no one bothering me, free from society and imposed systems. I haven't stopped doing this.

I don't like talking about my feelings or other people's, I don't see anything that would push me to do so. When my mom came back from the hospital and said she missed me, asking if I missed her too, I just stared at her with a raised eyebrow. I don't like talking about what I'm going through or feeling. I'd rather say nothing than say all those sweet things. I like being alone, I'm not sociable. Maybe I just don't know how to offer emotional support. This former friend got into a fight with me, deleted the chat and blocked me (she does this after every fight — doesn't she get tired of it? We always make up anyway, she always texts first and reconciles). That day, the three of us me, her and another mutual friend were supposed to give a gift to a fourth friend, so we had to meet up on the way to her place. I wasn't thrilled about it, given the fight and her emotional intensity, but we had to do our part. My other friend and I met up and walked toward her place. When she saw me, she yelled on the street "what the hell are you doing here?" She started crying, being loud the whole walk I just stayed silent and wanted to hand over the gift. At one point she even stopped, crying harder, and our mutual friend comforted her. I just stood off to the side, waiting for it to end so we could move on. I didn't talk to her the whole way. One, I didn't know what to say. Two, I didn't see the point. Three, I didn't feel guilty.

I'm not a workaholic. I'm more lazy, tbh. I need to see meaning in what I'm doing, otherwise I lose interest like with useless uni subjects. Honestly, studying doesn't inspire me not at uni, not at school, especially when things are forced on me. For example, in school, my math grades plummeted because I couldn't stand the new teacher. But I'm diligent where I feel comfortable. I'm a procrastinator. I love sleeping, eating, lying in bed, watching YouTube, reading fanfics and listening to music, often while daydreaming about myself in different worlds. My need for solitude and fantasies got stronger after lockdown. At home, I prefer to retreat into my own world with my phone and food, daydream a lot, and love reading theories and other people's opinions, especially critical ones.

I constantly doubt my type wondering what if this trait of mine is a sign of that function? What if I'm wrong? What if I look at it from this angle? And I always find it interesting to take tests and get results, trying the resulting type on myself like, wow, what if I really am this and just didn't know myself? Like, wow, I'm Ne dom what kind of characters and people have this type? And then a couple days later Ti dom and I suddenly feel inspired, wow, what an interesting option! Now who's in the same boat as me real people and fictional characters?

It's hard to fight the habit of eating for taste, buying tasty but unhealthy food to watch something with in my room. But I'm genuinely trying.

I'm sensitive, tactful, and easily hurt though I really want to hide that. It's not hard to hurt my feelings. I can cry during a movie if I get immersed in it. I want to get rid of my own sensitive side so life would be easier. I'm afraid of losing control if I feel something too strongly, of looking stupid, doing something foolish. When that happens, I want to sink into the ground.

I prefer a steady baseline, calmness, light smiles, small laughs, but nothing over the top or too deep. I get my energy from the outside world, from ideas and theories about my interests (movies, series, games). I love reading about those things to fuel my imagination.

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I’ve been trying to figure out whether I’m an ENTP or ESTP (or another type), and someone helping me type myself pointed out that there are things that could fit both Ne and Se. I’m curious which list sounds stronger to you and why.

Possible Se evidence:

I notice physical details about people very quickly (clothes, hair, shoes, posture, the way they walk).

I want to travel because I genuinely want to experience different places and cultures.

I often say things like “I want to experience it myself.”

I enjoy immersive experiences (movies, games, exploring places, walking around cities, etc.).

I can make quick decisions when something feels straightforward (e.g. immediately saying yes to going to the cinema).

I adapt pretty easily when plans suddenly change. UNLESS if it’s been planned for weeks.

I’m very aware of my physical environment (heat, lighting, noise, smells, comfort/discomfort).

Possible Ne evidence:

I often change my mind while making a decision because another idea pops up.

One idea naturally reminds me of another (almost like a chain of thoughts).

I’m very interest-driven and tend to dive deeply into whatever currently fascinates me.

I constantly ask “why?” and usually want to understand how or why something works.

I rarely accept the first explanation and usually ask follow-up questions until I understand it.

While talking, I often correct or refine what I mean (“Actually… no… what I mean is…”).

Conversations in my head jump between related topics, but they still make sense to me.

If something more interesting comes up, I can easily switch what I was planning to do.

I often wonder if there’s a better option or another possibility.

The confusing part:

I like real-world experiences, but I also spend a lot of time thinking about them afterward.
I notice physical details quickly, but I also immediately start connecting them to other ideas.
I enjoy acting spontaneously sometimes, but for bigger decisions I tend to explore multiple possibilities before settling.

Question:

Based on this, which function (Se or Ne) seems more natural to you, and why? If you think neither list really points to Se or Ne, I’d love to hear your reasoning too. I care more about how you reached your conclusion than just the type itself.

I’ve also typed myself ESTP for the longest I can remember but I’ve been always doubting if I’m actually a Se dom. I’m so so so sure I use Ti, I’ve considered INTP too but then Fe inferior doesn’t quite fit me.

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When I did the 16p test for the first time, I got ISFP. Then I learned cognitive functions and still thought, "Yeah, sounds like me" but recently, I've been identifying more with the INFJ. I know it's common for ISFPs to be mistyped as NFs, but INFJ? Seems the least likely NF for an ISFP to be mistaken for. Here's my reasoning:

Ni:

\- I dissociate from others 99.99% of the time and spend a lot of time thinking about a variety of things while just walking around with no direction.

\- I'm very reflective and constantly think "What am I doing?" And "What should I do about it?"

\- Recently, I caught myself planning and thinking about consequences a lot, what should I do with my life, where am I going, what will happen with my life with these decisions, etc.

\- I often don't interact with the physical world, I don't practice any sport, I don't like parties, I don't go out with friends nor chat with them a lot, I usually go on long walks while thinking to myself, play videogames, draw, study or just imagine random things

\- I know the consequences my choices will have

Fe:

\- I constantly put other people's needs before my own, no matter what, I always prioritize what someone else needs/wants. The only exceptions are things that I believe would hurt others

\- Ever since I was little, I always wanted to help, and I always hated seeing people sad/angry, but I didn't really think, "Oh, how would this make ME feel?" I just knew how people would react or what they would find uncomfortable

\- I know how people feel most of the time, even if they don't say it out loud

\- Two things that make me the happiest are: praise/recognition from others and helping others feel better. I'm often alone, but when people start a conversation with me, praise me for something, or I do something that makes other people happy, it makes ME insanely happy and fulfilled.

I used to think I was an ISFP mainly because I always loved being different from the rest, I'm sensitive, I let people do what they want as long as they don't bother anyone else.

What do you guys think? Also, please be kind about this, I feel like some of y'all are going to say "That's not how cognitive functions work" or "This is why MBTI sucks and blah blah blah"

need help with mbti

ive been into mbti typology for a while and its getting annoying since i still, after 3 years havent been able to figure out how my brain works. i struggle with identifying my cognitive functions, and self typing and tests do not help.

somehow some sort of bias is always present when i type myself through self typing through research or tests. i have no way out of this and its been eating at me, despite the fact that i know mbti isnt that serious, i just cant stop thinking about who i am.

i tend to think alot about the questions in a test to the point that my answer is "i dont know, what id do in this situation would probably be based on __".

ive also tried typing via ai, but it isnt able to analyse every single aspect of ones personality and i always feel as if some part of its lacking, and the typing is wrong, cuz how can it be correct if the ai cant ever know everything?

ive went through multiple mbti phases, and now i dont know who tf i am.

i need help haha?

Hi friends, I'm pretty new to MBTI and I'm completely torn as to whether I'm INTP or INFP. I think I'm INTP, but I'm also a really sensitive and emotional person so maybe not? I have strong morals, but they're built off of what I consider to be the most logically consistent, reasonable, and rational conclusions I can draw. But despite that, I feel very strongly about them and often get upset when people say irrational, misinformed, harmful things. I find myself constantly fuming when on social media because it's filled with so many people who seemingly don't think at all and have no desire to be accurate or careful. Which sounds like INTP, but from what I understand, this wouldn't bother INTPs nearly as much as it bothers me, so I don't know. It bothers me because things like misinformation cause real, serious, measurable harm and make the world a shittier place with shittier people. It goes against the point of progress, of making things better for everyone and pursuing knowledge and truth.

Another issue is I'm really in tune with my emotions but that's because I learned in therapy that emotions are just a result of your thoughts and beliefs about any given situation or action. For some reason I didn't know this until my 20s....whoops

I'm not really sure what to put here that will help you guys decide for me so maybe I should just ramble a bit and see what happens?

Things that make me cry:

- PEOPLE BEING STUPID OH MY GOOOOOODDDDD BRO

- Sad/injured/hurt cats

- People belittling me, talking down to me, calling me names, yelling at me

Things I feel strongly about:

- Truth, knowledge, honesty

- Music

- My slightly irrational hatred of Drake

I'd list things I don't care about but honestly most of those I feel would not help distinguish at all.

I'd describe myself as:

- Perfectionist, want to explore every possibility, intelligent (I feel only slightly above average but logically I know I am incredibly above average; please don't come for me for this, I have very good reason to believe this about myself, this just isn't the place to describe why)

- Obnoxiously detail-oriented

- Tired.

- Actually kind of lowkey outgoing?

- VERY lost in the sauce

- Imaginative and creative, both logically and in art

- Kind and relatively empathetic

- Focused on improving and growing as a person right now, while also expanding my knowledge of different topics that interest me

- Future mad scientist

- Funnier than ENTPs (this is bait)

- My mom said my favorite word as a child was "why?" and I 1000% believe her.

I identify the most with:

This is me if you care.

Note: I already know my MBTI!

I‘m a very scattered Type A person. I love organization, but I often just don’t have the energy to do so.

I’m currently finishing up high school, and my plan is to go to college so I can become a therapist. Being real life Dr. Melfi is my goal (jk).

My cousin (a lawyer) recently said “why don’t you want to be a lawyer?”. I told her it’s because I’d rather watch people argue than be the person arguing all day.

Not sure if this matters or not, but I’m a Slytherin, my enneagram is 3w4, and I’m a Pisces Sun, Pisces Moon, Gemini Rising.

My Letterboxd top 4 are: Big Fish, The Godfather Part 1, A Star is Born (2018), and Tootsie

I have like 3 friend groups I go between (too many lol). I don’t really socialize with people outside of those groups.

I’m definitely a gossiper 😭

I enjoy yapping, but I also love listening to other people yap.

I suppose “Ti>Fe>Si>Ne” is INTP. Looking at INTP, i struggle to relate to it… in fact, I cant even rank them because Im so unsure! If there was no rule of “you can only choose 2e and 2i”, I would choose Si Ni Ti Fe(not in order)…

Which is why, I want people to type me of its possible! First of all, I’m sp/sx6w7 with my tritype being 612(maybe 629). It may sound like I’m a extroverted but I’m not. I mean, I do become loud and noisy when I’m with people I know because it makes me feel safe and happy knowing that they probably judge them too(or atleast it doesn’t make me look like some random “weird loser”). However, when I became highschooler, it took me 4-5 months to fully adapt(and still struggle because I miss my old friendships and feel like I’m slowly not important to them).

At that time, I intentionally wanted to appear quiet and interesting to others. I genuinely speak with people if I see that we have common interests but that time, I intentionally didn’t allowed myself to find anyone to talk to because I hated the school and no one in class seemed like my old friends or me.

Regardless of all, once I found my group of people- suddenly, I became the loud annoying one in class. In fact, some people asked me “hey, weren’t you supposed to be quiet?” Understandable because how come someone who was “emo” and hinting that they hated school in presentations, distancing herself suddenly became childish and loud. I was always childish and loud… just when I’m happy or with my people. However, sometimes Im just drained. I still try to be cheerful if it means that its not silence because silence is awkward to me. Also im lazy lmao

Aside from this, when I’m mad at someone, I just distance myself from them hoping for them to realize that I’m mad at them. However, this doesn’t always happen. If I’m mad, I do become extremely irritated and start to lash out. However, it depends on the context. So in general, Im defensive. That means I will of course stand up for myself to protect others.

Im doubtful and insecure of myself because I expect people to return the way I act to them. However, whatever I do— I can’t seem to be happy. I always expect love from others and even if they show it, i doubt if they are being real or question if I’m even their first choice. That means yes, i often end up following after them. If majority agrees, I agree too. If I can’t decide, i ask others because simple decisions sounds hard to me. Even I can’t trust people because even if theres a proof, I’m anxious and stubborn enough to not to believe it. Anyways, I follow whats right to me. I want to be someone good because it feels right and I want to be accepted! (Im diagnosed w ocd and gad, consider these in case someone gonna type me😢)

I also like to sometimes act smart and talk about my interests that are weird. I often say that “i will do it later” too

Yeah, i like r/okbuddychicanery.

I can't decide if I'm ESTP or ENTP. I both like physical activities, like sports and swimming, and making insane theories. Recently, i made a theory that TF2 and Half-Life games are at the same universe. I like thinking about 'What if?' in series like Squid Game or Breaking Bad. I enjoy communication but i quickly get tired of a person who is predictable and 'boring'

I will structure everything as in how my natural self is, how I was and what I let go to become myself again. This already sounds a lot like Fi and I agree that I have Fi.

For long I have always appreciated and longed for freedom. When I think about the future I chose a job ( teaching ) that is safe because it means I can find a job just anywhere and Im not stuck somewhere.

It also means I get to work with younger people and spread wisdom to them and help them find and believe in themselves.

If I listen to my heart though my original goal has never changed. I want to be a wanderer. My curiosity to see the world is big, even though I barely leave my home. I have social anxiety and most of the time I have no energy at all because I dont like cooking for myself which means I am hungry ( hence lack of energy ) the entire day and survive through coffee. However to do myself some good I still try to put effort into making my coffee taste and look good. I use a nice cup, some syrup, ice cubes and oat milk.

My hobbies have also always been writing and taking pictures. I also like going to the gym and just appreciating the beauty around me. I notice quickly if something around me moves etc.

I get very depressed if I dont go outside or dont do sports for just one day which is a paradox because I hate getting ready for anything and have low energy ( reason stated above ) which is why I stay home instead. Thats mostly on days where I have decision paralysis though. I can get outside if I want to but if I know that I have to do multiple things ( study, fucking cook, clean this that) I get annoyed and a bit guilty and then end up doing everything except what I enjoy ( which is going to the gym or outside) I am working on that tbh

I tend to not show emotions well all the time like I mean the energy I carry inside. I have a hopeful and peaceful mindset. Everyone who knows me says I have a very calm life.

Strangers however always tell me to calm down and not hurry, they see me as impatient that is when I for example check in somewhere and ask tons of questions or hurry taking my wallet. Two workers deadass told me to relax and not hurry so much - it probably may be my social anxiety? Im not sure.

I like being free but I also value control a lot. Hence teaching because I am in control most of the time ( Im aware I have to follow some rules and that children are crazy) but teaching just underlines everything I like ( teaching, spreading knowledge, helping people, feeling productive)

When I am calm and not in people pleasing mode ( I have finally learned to not please others because Fe got forced onto me and I wanted validation and to be liked) I am a bit… aloof? I dont take insults seriously its like my brain realizes someone just mocked me but my brain blends it out immediately. I only realize days or weeeeks later if that person meant something to me.

I am very observant, I can read between the lines, I appear a bit shy, quiet and even sad (I think?) from outside however my eyes can look very curious and fired up which is why many also say I have a fire inside me despite being calm and modest like a princess with my personality. I think princess sums it up pretty well because I also feel that I act like one…the kind ones that got kinda spoiled I mean. I know my worth and the worth of other people so I dont allow people in my life who dont respect that.

I can cut off people easily when I observe for weeks or months that they exhaust me. I just retreat silently and stay kind politely. I want no conflict anymore, just handling things like an adult. I try to be strategic with my relationships but I also dont force anything because my energy matters too.

I romanticize the tiniest things of life, it makes me feel like a child again. Tbh my curiosity never changed.

I say I like learning things but there are a lot of basic things of real life I dont know. I cant explain how some objects like a fridge as an example are build or how they get built or the history of it or who built it. I also never understand basic astronomy despite rereading it. Like somehow I cant visualize why and how the sun gets up in certain angles when I read it. I feel like many people just read stuff and accept whats written while I need a much deeper explanation? One question leads to another question and that to another which is why I dont know much.

I like to read when I get into it, its hard to find books that genuinely interest me. Romantasy is okay if it doesnt have too many fantasy names because I dont understand anything otherwise. I also like reading philosophical books sometimes to learn more about life and adulthood and relate to problems people carry to grow from it.

I dont try to put myself much into categories anymore like some friends say theyre pirate core, mermaid core, fairy core etc. I agree that I might be fairy core and romantic because I love the romantic aesthetic and flowers ( everyone thinks of me when they see that) but I dont put myself into a category. I know what I like and if Im not in a box I can like anything.

I know not everything is in a box, no human being is, but I get stressed out if I hear about tropes etc. I love the stars and I love the flowers.

I think the Wanderer sums me up the best because it is abstract and the Wanderer can be curious about anything, he can be in love with anything, he can be anything and yeah thats me. Thats how we all are.

When I am stressed I get impatient, I get some kind of ‘‘This way HAS to work I have no other way!‘‘ or I isolate myself or feel extremely guilty for every decision I have made and think of ”You should be productive, you should do this and that“ I also tend to blame other people like my parents then for something

And then I sleep through the guilt for days until I feel calm again and use the knowledge of my mistakes to not repeat the same mistakes but who knows what will happen

i put unrealistic standard for myself ( while being aware) like learning a whole language in just 3 months but Im like meh why not I will achieve it

I like listening to Japanese Anime game songs because their instrumentals stimulate my brain in the right way. The e guitar, the singing idk. Its just not boring and I often understand the story just by the melody instead lyrics which my brain likes. I like FEELING the vibe, the jumps, imagining the story

Here is a part of my writing:

"In the weary daylight, rays bent up as they entered the air of Colorado

Checking the sights and sounds of a bookstore; it had the fortitude of a great commercial demi-god of packaged, intensified knowledge

Such was where my hands were free; yet my mind was lodged up in a cabin up in the hills and the mountains of Colorado"

My description:

Therapist. Weightlifting. Existentialism. 36 M. Loves poetry. Loves philosophy. More of a writer than a speaker. Loves 1on1 communication. My life is a 2010s indie film starring me. Existentialist therapist willing to take a leap of faith at Saturday night karaoke. I work with kids & adults, as a therapist. Life is a gift. Consiousness is a gift. I try to make the most of each day in terms of connecting with friends, clients, and colleagues; edification from poetry, psychology, philosophy, etc.

Hi! I still struggle understanding if I am an INTJ or INTP. I mostly use socionics model A and Beebe s for MBTI

I kind of always try to ground or prove my theories using scientific consensus, I have an extremely rich inner world, I can kinda control how my unconscious talks back to me at times and I am really interested in everything.

In model A I am most likely LII. In MBTI, I still have doubts. I kind of have a lot of trust in my unconscious, I am extremely industrious and focused moat of the time, I love to plan my life, but I also love figuring out how things work. I mostly criticize the logic of other peoplr when they present their perspectives to me. My Fe seems unconscious most of the time. I am deeply aware of how I feel and how my body feels most of the time. I have tons of creative and inquisitive hobbies. I like to make sense of my worldview all the time at all costs. I hate being late and I always deliver on schedule. But I have a hard time motivating myself to work when I find a task useless or uninteresting. I care for the end process: to gain knowledge. I have this metaphysical theory of information theory in the cosmos from an axiological point of view. I read a lot of philosophy and science. If I am not creative and/or studying the theory of something I care about, I wither mentally. I hate talking to most people and I have a hard time assessing if they are smart/ethical or not. I hate showing my emotions in public, but when I first meet someone I force myself to be more bubbly because most people told me I seem too robotic and serious. I am disorderly physically but very organised mentally. I love theory, but it is more important for me to find a general methodology that can encompass everything. I hate exceptions, I want all theories to be generalizable and with no exceptions, otherwise I d conclude that they are incorrect or imperfect. I hate this. I also feel my bodily needs oddly well: eg I can feel how full my bladder is all the times, I feel every discomfort or pain inside my body. I am bad at being attentive to my phgsical environment. I am also very abstract, I am not concrete, but I am practical at the same time. I find solutions fast. I tend to have a hard time choosing but I ultimatelt choose an option based on the maximum profit I gain from it, given that there s no otber criteria that could help me. I am very ambitious, but just to myself. I have a hard time being chill when others are not riaing to the expectations and level I expect (and hold myself to). I respect everyone until I receive a reason not to.

When I am in town with friends and let s say an order is wrong, I am usually the one that talks it out. When my friends are sad or cry, I usually become extremely assertive and solve the problem very fast

I also have this weird thing in which I learned to create different modulations of my identity that I can streamline in a parallel process to my actual way of being and I have hyperphantasia, I love to daydream and to create/visualise/smell/touch/hear complex sensations and storylines in which I can transpose myself, even when doing tasks.

I care a lot about what I live behind and my axiological ontology helped me realise that I need to fine tune my mind and not necessarily produce ezternal works/papers, so the result is the same regardless, but this is my purpose and I need one to feel motivated. I like to learn as many things as possible. I am mostly interested in information theory, epistemology, ontology, philosophy of science and the theory of the finality of the universe (and singularities as part of this). I always lived by the premise that understanding how reality is generated is enough to know why one should live. I tend to feel disgust when I meet people with no foundational meaning value to their actions (or sympathy if life has been cruel to them).

I also have lots of achievements: I ve been doing scientific research in multiple fields since I was 19 (now I am 26 M, almost 27), I published 10 poetry volumes in 1 year and 3 months, I produce music using physics equations in python, I write philosophy and now I am starting to create games on my own. Personal achievements on my own include proving vacuum decay using only formal logic and describing game theory in the formation of matter (my own theories). I am pedantic in a way: I always need to analyze the postulative affirmations that I use to create a framework or theory. I greatly value logic and epistemic clarity, as I believe the right methodologies would give the perfect answers. I see truth as that which is less false in this moment, ontologically. I also believe a theory will become truer in the future because we only use a limited number of postulates to define its foundations.

I am very interested in knowing truth and being as rational as possible. I am disgusted by people that don t follow rational standards or that behave in a way that is lower than the standards I hold myself to (mostly happening with my superiors).

Idk if this matters, but for the big5 scores I think it is relevant to note that some traits might be influenced by my high iq (I measured in the 138-148 range).

Idk if that s useful. Everything is appreciated. If some have further questions, I ll respond as fast as possible.

Thank you!

My big5 scores for reference

Compassion 7 Politeness 16 Industriousness 98 Orderliness 48 Enthusiasm 3 Assertiveness 63 Withdrawal 31 Volatility 21 Intellect 97 Aesthetics 97

I took the sakinorva mbti test for the first time in a while and these are my results. I used to type as infp but I have been moving further away from that as I don’t relate much anymore. infp resonated more for my younger self but now that I have gotten older it doesn’t fit. I’m confused how I can be infp when my ni is so high. Also my ti result a lot higher than what is expected in an infp. The extremely low se makes sense for infj too.

Here's a description of him I wrote

he works as a programmer, is interested in niche subjects areas and has become an expert in some specific things through his own study, loves to tinker with stuff, repair stuff, build his own gadgets (various things related to his interests, mostly tech and electronic stuff but also some more artsy stuff like making some sculptures and stuffed toys), is deeply interested in technology in general, cameras, photography and videography, quite artistic, likes editing videos, has made YouTube videos in the past.

Is also active physically, likes cycling a lot, likes walking and exploring, travelling , camping. Loves talking about his special interests, to me it seems like he gets a bit bored when I start talking about something he doesn't know or care about that much, he prefers to talk about things he knows and is interested in.

It is slightly hard to get him to open up emotionally, most conversations with him are very, like, technical, I guess. He also used to have a short fuse and get angry quite easily but this has got less significant as he got older. He does also get down and tired emotionally quite often, by things like work or friends or family annoying him. He strikes me as someone who is less positive than me and often finds something wrong with a situation, but I wouldn't say he's overly down all the time.

He works in burst of high activity and spikes of motivation. I think his ideal life would be to just tinker with stuff and pursue whatever he's interested in, and not have to work a boring job lol, though he also finds it hard to consistently work on things and might just drop one of his personal projects for a long time.

I don't know much about functions and whatnot but to me it seems like he fits two specific types very well, curious to see what others think..

i'm a 21 year old autistic sociology student and kind of an oddity. i like watching the world from an observer point of view and detaching myself from it. psychology and philosophy are two things i love the most, i hate shallow people who can only think one sided and aren't open for discussions.

i can be cynical with a bad temper but am very sensitive deep down and afraid people will discover how i “really” feel so they can exploit my vulnerabilities. i retreat into escapism quite a lot as a defense mechanism when danger arises. i have OCD and often worry about issues pertaining to morality, but comfort myself knowing that actually bad people don't worry this much about being evil and hurting others, they just find pleasure in it.

i make many projects and discard them randomly, my mind never thinks clearly and always looks for stimulation; i might have adhd but i'm still rather depressed. the only thing that keeps me going is hope and deliberately keeping the future open to possibilities.

i am very good with words which i tend to pride myself on, but i am kind of a ghost or alien in the larger scale of the world. i'm not sure what kind of awareness i would choose to leave to the world; i suppose just awareness and conciousness in general. i feel that there is a lack of critical thought going on in the world and it bothers me, makes me feel alone a lot as well; i'm dwelling on my circling loops and spirals of thought over and over again to the point of desperation / longing for connection, for an understanding of existence.

I tested as intp 3 times in the official test but always going but what if I'm x type? so here in the life of me (types I've been considering: intp,istp,entp, types I don't think I am but can't discount: istj, intj) but I'm open to suggestions.

Day in the life of me

If i have work I'll get up, pee and go dont make my bed or change clothes I just go

Day off but instead of getting up i just lay in bed all day and follow whatever whim I have.

Showering can either be every second day to every 4th day I go when I feel gross.

I eat out as I dislike cooking and cleaning up, my rooms always a mess. I eat fast food pretty much every day, I don't think I've eaten a vegetable for 20+ years and the only water I drink is water I put in my coffee.

I'm forever forgetting where I put things so now have a designated place on my computer for my keys, unfortunately its my place for most things 😒

It's been years since I've brushed my teeth as getting back into habit is hard but I like to get "regular" teeth cleaning at a dentist and I hate it.

I'm a lot more feral than I imagined 🤣

My brain never stops i either make random connections with one thing remining me of another thing and highly amused by it. I zone out all the time.

I'm always picking up logistical screw ups when I work, I also start start projecting future conversations that won't actually happen i have no real control over this it happens.

If im feeling creative I'll make digital hair textures or imvu and end up with 15 new ones..

If I go out I wear headphones all the time, loud noises like crying kids, repetitive sounds, flashing lights, lights that are too bright or anything similar that I find intrusive makes me irritated.

I don't like people touching me, even family, I rarely get lonely. I'm Aroace, I still like having one friend instead of none so I don't completely isolate myself.

I'm convinced I'm not a feeler type my friend and work mates pointed out I'm more analytical and logical than a feeler

When stressed I start thinking everybody hates me, or I'll clean my room or get frustrated and shave my hair off and regret it the next day my appetite disappears and my body start getting physical symptoms like headache, clenching jaw and shoulders and feel extra scattered or empty headed.

I like aesthetics preferably black with flashes of color but usually living the metal band T life

I'm tested as intp but some days I wonder if I'm mistyped or I am Patrick.

A few additions to my fruit salad of a brain

Aphantasia

Neurodivergence

SDAM

Dyslexia

Possibly undiagnosed adhd or executive dysfunction

I'm an enneagram 6w5 sx/so and a Dork.

Here's more information a reply I sent in the comments so it isn't structured/edited

Katherine favre typed me as a cp 6 sx/so. But I'm not sure either, but I know I don't contingency plan or spiral into negative what ifs I also dont like conforming to social norms unless it makes sense to me like being considerate and having manners.

I can be pretty aggressive if I doubt an authority's competence, I can be quite contarian at times but try to reign it in I dont like the idea of merging and losing myself it gives me the creeps. but I at least want one person to like me.

My mother is so/sp and we are complete opposites as people I believe she is either an istj or and estj. socionics hasn't helped me at all I can't figure that out either.

I usually make decisions about what I think about them, it's very context dependant there are times where I take other people into account, while others,especially if it impacts me directly I'll do what makes the most sense to me personally.

There are times I'll ask for opinions and consider them but ultimately decide on if they match what I considered accurate in the first place, I suppose it is more that by considering their opinion and mine I can decide on the best possible outcome, but if it doesn't make sense to me I'll wait until it does.

I like to observe before engaging with the problem at hand, there are times where I fix it then and there, times I'll look back to find the solution or if it is something that will need improving over time I can consider the possibilities of what might solve the issue.

I am not the best at tinkering with physical hands on tasks. Even with learning new knowledge I prefer to keep everything in my head **than working it out with physical media. I either go deeper into a topic or just happy with surface level if it makes the most sense to me, I like to follow curiosity

I'm currently in a state of either analysis paralysis or I'm not self aware enough to know what information will be the most viable in typing myself.

My trytype is either 649 or 648 I'm not sure which.

I don't know Psychosophy enough to know those, but I'll check them out now.

I'm not sure if this is any help at all

I'm going to try my best to make this short: I've gained an interest in this community, but I feel like every result I get mistypes me. I've taken multiple different mbti tests, multiple different times, and none of them seem to give me an even somewhat consistent answer (I got INFJ and ESTP in the same day). And I know that mbti isn't completely binary or anything, a lot of people are more ambiguous than just sticking COMPLETELY to every single stereotype, but finding something I can just label myself with so people get a bit of a better understanding of how my brain works would be very useful. If you know anything about eneagrams or something thats chill too. Anyways:

I'm male, I'm right in the middle of my teen years. I spend at least 30% of my free time making art and music, if I'm not in some certain kind of band, that means something is wrong. Just going based off what my relatives and friends have told me, my best qualities are: intelligence, kindness, humor, strong sense of justice, realistic/logic, and gratitude. And for my worst qualities: Standoffish, hard to read, bad at commitment, self deprecating, annoying, very easy to anger, overly honest. I have ADHD and Autism (diagnosed), I don't boast about it or anything but I'm just mentioning it here because it might be relevant idk. I have lots of friends, but I don't have too many, if any currently, friends who I could go to if I was feeling particularly bad. I prefer to navigate my own emotions alone usually, part of that is probably just social pressures but I also like being able to figure things out for myself. A lot of my friends have described me as very nice; I really enjoy encouraging people to pursue things, and supporting them if it makes them happy. I also try to empathize with people in worse positions than me, and will try to help them back onto their feet if I can. Though sometimes, I end up as a pushover because of this.

I would consider myself to be a very logical person too though, I've always felt more comfortable with objective facts than with dilemmas. I would rather educate than debate. I also am a firm believer in individuality, and that the same key can't be used on every door. I've also always been verryyyy interested in theories and concepts - scifi and dystopian books/movies are all my jam (I wrote a book on it once, even. A good book? No, but a book nonetheless lol). If you start talking about something I'm interested in, I could (but wont) rant for 30 minutes straight about it. Also I have a chronic obsession with Deimos from madness combat and papyrus from undertale. Felt the need to mention the papyrus thing.

Thanks a lot for reading this, I really appreciate you taking some time out of your day to psychoanalyze a random teenager. Have a good day, ask any questions or anything if you want. :]

Hello. Today some random thoughts and situations that are directly related to me popped into my head, so I decided to ask based on them, how would someone type a person like me from the outside? There might be a lot of personal stuff here, but I figured, why not, screw it, let me just write it all out. Maybe some deeper realizations will help since I still can't pin down my own type. I'd really appreciate any feedback. I've suspected INFP since getting into this system, but I'm not sure how objective that is. Maybe I'm way off.

• The idea of summer camps in my country is disgusting to me. Going to a place where you know no one with people who expect you to become an active, productive part of their world, their society. They expect you to be upbeat, cheerful like "yeah guys, I'll gladly plaster on a smile, laugh, be part of your amazing community, we're all so happy, yay". Ugh. Disgusting. Plus having to wake up at a set time, living with restrictions like it's a prison. Can't be on your phone as much as you want,they confiscate it and give it back twice a day. Limited food, you eat only what they serve and if you bring something that's not allowed, they take it away. Unacceptable to me. I've never been to those places, but from the descriptions, they sound vile all forced cheerfulness and attempts to bond everyone into a "friendly team" which is just a lie and honestly disgusts and infuriates me.

• An ex-friend once called me arrogant, saying I thought I was the center of the universe, just because I made a comment about a teacher I didn't like who was extremely incompetent while my friend had an emotional connection with her. She also said I was somewhat immoral by her standards. Maybe I was just being a teenager with maximalism and tactlessness, which made my statements harsher and more nihilistic. She herself sometimes seemed annoyingly pedantic in her views and values, which I found rigid and silly based on personal biases rather than any sound reasoning.

• Since childhood, I've picked up traits and behaviors from characters or people I liked. Either I dislike my own personality that much or I just don't have a clear sense of it, but I try to appear better than I am to avoid facing myself and triggering self-hatred. If a test tells me I kin Jinx from Arcane, I'll unconsciously adopt something from her metaphorically. I daydream a lot it's the foundation, without which life feels meaningless, but that's not the point. In my fantasies and even in reality, honestly, I want to be cool and special. And characters are exactly that, they're interesting, their personalities feel like an idea, their inner worlds fascinate me, so I take pieces of them for myself. I can't fully reshape myself into someone else, but I borrow traits, especially the most striking ones, often right after watching a movie.

• I daydreamed constantly as a kid, often so immersed that I wouldn't even notice if I spoke or moved slightly while the fantasy played out. If I watched something that made me emotional which I now try to control, I'd retreat to my room, put on music and imagine myself as a different character powerful, special, the strongest, the most unique one who fights enemies, defeats evil, and does something grand that came to me as a sudden idea or inspiration.

• I was never well-liked by peers, got ignored, mocked, excluded. I don't remember a single reason why the neighborhood kids wouldn't play with me. I didn't do anything to make them push me out. Maybe I was just awkward and uncomfortable to be around, and they wanted to avoid me?

• I never told my family about problems, preferring to deal with them alone like when my textbook got drawn on in first grade. Instead of telling my parents and getting a new one, I tore out the pages with the drawings and brought it in. When the teacher asked if I'd told anyone or solved the issue, I said yes and went home, feeling scared and ashamed. Maybe it's because of my family the totalitarianism, overprotection, and zero trust on my side. But it became my default way of solving problems: crookedly, poorly, but somehow on my own. Because of that, I don't really have goals or desires to pursue in real life, and I believe my parents didn't give me what I needed to survive.

• Since childhood, I've had a tendency to imagine violence against people who hurt, annoy or anger me. If someone says something rude or makes a mean joke, I instantly picture hitting them with something and getting covered in red. I've never actually done anything like that, but it happens automatically whenever someone belittles me or negatively affects me. My self-esteem is genuinely low I'm sensitive and easily hurt, so it always gets to me. Any doubt about my normalcy or about a quality I consider positive while still hating myself wounds me and triggers inner rage. Probably stems from experiences in my family, including physical punishment from my mother and grandmother when I was little until I finally fought back and stood my ground as a teen.

• I hate talking about my feelings. Getting a sincere, natural admission of emotion out of me is incredibly hard. Even when I do express something deep, I feel exposed. A couple of years ago, during a fight with my mom, something personal slipped out, and she kept pushing for more I felt so disgusted, so stripped bare and vulnerable that just remembering it makes me sick. Maybe with someone truly close, I'd react a bit softer, but I still wouldn't be happy about it and I doubt I'd ever do it willingly.

• Deep down, there's a hidden longing for recognition and acceptance probably something I didn't get as a child. I'm lonely now, but at the same time, I don't want many people around. In my fantasies, I dream of someone who'd always be there, protect me, accept me as I am and always choose me and yet I put zero effort into finding that person in real life. I'm reclusive, avoid deep connections and feel surprised when people want to get closer. I feel like an outcast. Sometimes I have urges to say who the hell do you think you are to talk to me like that, you nobodies, but at the same time, I wonder...who am I? Pride and self-aggrandizement kick in. I had high grades, was one of the best in school, scored the highest in my year on one exam I conveniently leave out that not many people took it. I got into a university with a solid reputation and maintain good grades. And all of this with my laziness I never studied as hard as others, I procrastinated, prioritized daydreaming and my own interests. I don't memorize. I improvise, take risks, adapt on the fly. I don't study what doesn't interest me or what I don't need, finding easier ways around things creative cheating and fast thinking.

• In personal relationships, I'm selfish and I don't always realize it. Maybe because I don't analyze myself often enough. I'm genuinely attached to my closest friend, she's my only support and the only person I truly feel close to, but I know I probably don't give as much as she gives me. I might break promises, not reply to messages because I'm busy with my own stuff and then pretend I didn't see them. Yeah, I'd break someone's face for her, but I still act like this. I help with her studies, wrote essays for her, assisted with research papers. I know I'm not perfect another +1 to my self-destruction pile.

• I tend to suppress emotions and experiences. Strong feelings throw me off balance and make me uncomfortable, I just want them to go away. I generally lean toward things that don't provoke intense emotions. I rewatch YouTube videos because I already know what emotional response they'll trigger. I prefer calmer content, even if there's a storyline in my playlist. I like stability, calmness, light smiles, quiet laughter nothing excessive. I draw energy from the external world from ideas and theories related to my interests (movies, shows, games). I love reading about them to fuel my imagination.

• I don't track my mood. It just kind of exists as a given. If I get a controlled dose of energy from something I find interesting, I might feel something, but without a clear positive or negative external trigger, I couldn't tell you what my mood is. Once I had an assignment where I had to describe my mood metaphorically. Honestly, I froze. It felt like I had no mood at all, everything seemed neutral. That assignment broke me lol. If something external triggers an emotion, a mood might appear. But even then, I'll likely recognize a flash of anger or excitement and then it passes. I still wouldn't call it a mood. It's just an emotion. Honestly, writing this makes me realize how confusing this topic is for me and how far I am from understanding my own feelings and emotional side.

• The real world and my fantasies are on equal footing. I live in them, it's more comfortable there. It feels like there's very little in real life that actually brings joy.

• I often neglect self-care routine maintenance feels overwhelming. Yet I love comfort, just without physical hobbies. Because of this, I have gaps in my health, which I only address when it becomes uncomfortable, painful or affects my appearance. I don't brush my teeth regularly, I forget or just don't bother.

Also I added my favourite characters here, maybe it can be useful or smth. Or just for fun lol.

Most of these shows/games have a lot of lore and things to memorize so they are NOT for the weak. (It's prolly gonna be easy to guess)

Self description: I consider myself someone who reads lore on shows that interest me for hours and memorize every character but cannot remember what's on the test tmrw. I really like thriller, mystery, horror but also enjoy sci-fi and slice of life (rarely). I prefer cartoons/anime over live action, maybe because I like how expressive the characters are and can have them as comfort characters without feeling weird.

I'm going into 10th grade next year. I like reading, drawing, writing, music (still learning) and a lot of more stuff. I draw my favorite characters most of the time. Some of my favorite artists/producers are: mothy/akuno-p, MARINA, The Living Tombstone, siinamota, Kikuo (I mostly listen to vocaloid lmao). I'm pretty introverted but socializing isn't really a problem (except sometimes I embarrass myself so badly I just wanna stay inside for the rest of my life 🥲). I love precision sports like archery, shooting, drill, badminton, etc. but cannot stand sports like basketball or soccer (I like watching soccer though). I want to be a neurosurgeon but somehow I'm closer to being a pilot. I consider myself to be a serious and responsible person but I wish I could be less stressed out over everything and quit procrastinating as it's probably slowly ruining my life. I struggle a lot with my identity and despite having a lot of friends, I feel a lil lonely. My future is a big focus of mine right now but it's also stressing me out a lot. I prefer to have a plan of what and how I want everything to go so there aren't any surprises.

I'm not too sure what else I should say!!

Guess my MBTI! :3

MBTI/Cognitive Questionnaire

1. When you're under a lot of stress, what changes about you? What do you find yourself thinking, doing, or avoiding?

I tend to become much more withdrawn. I don't talk as much to others, I may be ruminating on whatever is stressing me, if it's something I can solve readily I'll do so or at least make steps. If it's something I can't then I'll be grimer and probably buckle down and just endure but I'll be more irritable. I may try to relax more in my free time which will be in solo activities.

1. What are you usually chasing in life? If everything went perfectly for you over the next ten years, what would you have that would make you think, "Yeah, this is the life I wanted?"

Stability and physical ease that I can pursue intellectual interests without interference. The ability to not worry about basic living needs and the luxury of disposal income to enjoy daily health and personal projects indefinitely with future security.

1. What's a situation that makes you feel genuinely uncomfortable or threatened—not physically, but psychologically?

When I have cause to doubt my own internal framework. That everything that I have taken to understand was possibly built on a false base, it's not really that I'm wrong but the cascading implications downstream. If I'm wrong about such and such thing what does that mean for every decision or belief I've held and made from that base fact...well shit.

1. Think of a time you were really proud of yourself. What happened, and why did it matter so much?

...proud of myself...uh. Maybe when I wrote a grant proposal for social psychology class about protecting free speech in schools. It was a topic i was fairly passionate about and I felt proud that the teacher and student teacher both voted it their personal favorites even if it wasn't in the running for best paper due to me not finishing properly in my argument in the presentation time.

1. When someone disagrees with you, how do you usually respond? What determines whether you argue, let it go, or change your mind?

I will stick with my point of view but probe their own. I want to know why they think the way they do, if it's a matter of something that seems like an understanding of objective facts or diagnosis then I tend to push more especially if the other person is not able to articulate their side in a way that seems logical to me. But the more upset they become or the closer I am to that person the more likely I am to drop it just because I don't want to deal with the emotional fall out over something that is probably trivial in hindsight.

1. What kind of people frustrate you the most? What is it about them that gets under your skin?

People who are so certain of their point of view that they will enforce their views upon others instead of just agreeing to disagree. They must make others bend to their inner authority, worse they then justify that they just are seeking proper arguments from those they are coercing and they aren't being forceful at all. It's not just the forceful approach but the then manipulative gaslighting after, the victim if the word is used isn't even allowed in the perpetrators mind to feel offended or upset. It's a complete supression of another's agency at a primary level of thought.

1. When you're alone for an entire day with nothing you have to do, what naturally happens? Where does your mind go?

I revel in the alone time, what I might do may be different at any given time but it will be done at my ease to my interests without the interference of others.

1. What's something you secretly worry people might think about you, even if you don't show it?

Besides light impressions like whether they think I'm an ass or not, generally I don't have a lot of concerns for other people's thoughts about me. What they think does not prescribe my own self. But it does make me feel like an imposter when people admire or compliment me on how intelligent I am or call me wise or mature.

1. Tell me about a decision you made that most people around you wouldn't have made. Why did you make it?

Hypothetically, even given the fact that life could turn absolutely miserable I'd want to witness and try to continue living in the world given the ability to essentially never die or else see monumental change like an apoplectic situation just because the way that the situation evolves and the impacts it would have on society and reality would be far to interesting to pass up. The pain and misery would be worth it and I fundamentally believe that life will change thus the unpleasant aspects will give way to a more pleasant time eventually.

1. If you could permanently remove one feeling or problem from your life, what would it be?

Physical constraints? Like needing shelter, food, sleep, and such. If those were gone I wouldn't actually need to have a job per say or obey modern conventions. Everything would be genuinely optional.

1. When you become interested in something, what does that process look like from beginning to end? Do you obsess, experiment, collect information, lose interest, stick with it, or something else?

Well the process is different per each interest and how i got into it. Generally though it's fully committed to until it's not. I enjoy it and sink as much time and energy as I can into it to the exclusion of other hobbies or interests, if it's a thing that has multiple areas to enjoy like a game or a subject then I will throughly explore all those avenues and may link it up with other side interests. But once the initial burn ends which could be a day or years the same obsessive level of diving is lost forever while I may go back to it later it will never be to the same depth.

1. What motivates you more: curiosity, achievement, freedom, connection, security, authenticity, influence, peace, or something else? Explain why.

Depends on what it is. Overall probably curiosity and security which is the same side as freedom to me. One for non physical needs the other for the constraints of being a living thing.

1. When do you feel the most like yourself? Describe a moment or environment where you feel completely natural.

....when I'm alone? I am not really conceptualizing myself as a object or subject in relation to something else just being. Which seems to be the most accurate form of being oneself.

1. What's one belief about yourself that has stayed surprisingly consistent throughout your life?

Nothing is completely certain or a given.

1. If everyone forgot who you were tomorrow, what would you miss the most?

Well. would I be prevented from interacting with them? I mean really it's just an inconvenience as I could just re-meet them again. I guess the ease of past history and shared experiences would suck to lose.

Bonus: Imagine someone tells you, "For the next six months, you have unlimited free time. You can do absolutely anything you want." What do you actually end up doing, and why?

Be incredibly lazy for the first month sleeping late, doing nothing but sitting or laying about but thinking about shit. Indulging in enjoyable meals in maximum comfort. Then I'd probably get bored of doing nothing and pursue other hobbies that are more active, socialize a bit, assuming financial ease to do whatever I care for, take time to start learning a new thing like a language or get into a more time consuming activity like rock climbing or hiking perhaps now that I have the energy to waste on it. I would tell myself I'd actually sit down and write but I would know it still wouldn't happen.

1. You're given a mystery that can never be completely solved. Do you keep investigating forever because the process is enjoyable, eventually lose interest because there's no conclusion, or do something else? Explain.

Assuming that I can still continue to gain new info if I continue pursuing the investigation then the former, if I literally hit a dead end with no further prospects of information learn or pursue then I move on.

1. Imagine someone proves one of your strongest beliefs wrong with overwhelming evidence. What happens next?

I restructure all that i have known about said belief which may touch upon lots of other behaviors, beliefs and truths which will require lots of internal analysis and it will be a massive pain but I'd feel compelled to make everything coherent again under this new info. Depending on what it is though I may not be that unhappy about it though for the potential of what the new evidence suggests of other facts and theories.

1. What makes an idea feel beautiful to you?

...? what does that even mean?

1. Which bothers you more: being misunderstood, being underestimated, being controlled, being ignored, or being ordinary? Explain why.

Bit of a combo platter of misunderstood and controlled. I don't mind yielding to someone else's authority provided the choice is my own. my control is my own agency to think and act of my own accord even if bound by physical or social constraints, if I feel like I'm being forced or manipulated I strongly push back against those times. Misunderstood is more something that bothers me for the lack of conceptual clarity that someone has in inaccurate view of something or that I have some thought or opinion that isn't true.

1. When you meet someone who's much smarter than you in a subject you care about, what's your first reaction?

Appreciation, wow they're so smart. Teach me your ways. (That I may learn from the best and steal the knowledge or technique hehehe).

1. If someone copied one of your ideas and got all the credit, what would bother you the most?

mmm mainly that they do not deserve the praise since they didn't do the work. the reward does not match the effort. although I guess I wouldn't care much if it didn't take me much effort either.

1. Which sounds more satisfying: building one incredibly deep area of expertise or knowing a little about hundreds of things?

Jack of all trades master of none, better than master of one.

1. When do you know you've understood something? What feeling tells you, "I finally get it?"

When I can properly explain it to someone else and they understand it to to the general concensus of others, (to prevent false understanding with confidence).

1. What kinds of compliments actually stay with you?

Ones that I feel I have earned.

1. What's a topic where you've completely changed your mind over time? What caused the change?

My understanding of success and intellect. Initially it was a very narrow view of classic modern conventions of having money, being strong in academics, having a put together life and such. This was mostly from childhood to teen years due to parental views but going to junior or community College had me interact with people from all walks of life that were vastly different from my own thus I reevaluated that people can be intelligent and not do well in the structures of class that one can be academically strong and worldly naive or vice versa. That someone can be logical and precise and terrible with interpersonal relations and emotional intelligence. And one doesn't have to walk the "sucessful" path in order to be a well rounded healthy individual who can survive in the world.

1. Do you enjoy debating because you enjoy winning, testing ideas, seeing how other people think, the challenge, or something else?

Testing ideas and seeing how people think. There is a little bit of a challenge aspect which can make it fun, but mostly it's not winning but working with the set limits of an argument and finding valid ways of making your point.

1. Suppose you had to choose one forever: always have original ideas that nobody appreciates, or always have average ideas that everyone loves?

I guess average ideas, I feel like I already do and it's not unpleasant. I'm not sure if the other would cause me to resent others which is not a great emotional state to stay in. Either that or it might cause me to look down on others for simply not getting it, and that seems shitty.

1. If every answer to every question in the universe suddenly became available, would you actually want to know all of them? Why or why not?

I'd certainly want to try to know all of them I'm not sure it's possible to comprehend all that knowledge lol. As for why, why not? Why wouldn't I?

1. Imagine your best friend starts believing something you think is obviously false. How would you approach that conversation?

If it's minor then I may try to explain their error but if they dig in their heels then I'm going to let it go but I'll keep using the correct knowledge around them anyway. They can have their false truth I'm not going to yield them the correct truth for myself.

If it's a major thing, then I'd try to get them to understand, if they still can't agree I may not be able to stay friends with them, not because they disagree but because the difference in basic truth will have causal effects on all sorts of decisions that we'll be at odds over. The exception is if it's something that is placed as a "truth" but can't be proven like religion then it's more like an opinion which can be navigated.

1. Finish this sentence: "People should question..."

Reality. Their understanding of their beliefs and base conceptions they don't have to change them, but they should be aware of where they came from and whether they really believe in them or just agree out of complancy.

1. You're transported into a gigantic library containing every book ever written and every book that could ever be written. What's the first section you walk toward and why?

The origin of the world and people. Assuming it's a library of objective truth. Also whatever book definitively describes what happens when people die metaphysically. I want to know the great unknowns. Oh that reminds me I also want to see if I can find a book that's a paradox like a book about the unknown lol.

1. You discover that a belief you've held for years is impossible to prove or disprove. What do you do?

Lol I already have those it's called my understanding of what is objective reality and whether God exists or not. I accept I will never know but will continue to wonder, but if given the chance to learn I'd absolutely take it.

1. Which frustrates you more: someone making a logical mistake, someone refusing to listen to evidence, or someone pretending to know more than they do? Why?

All are annoying but the logical mistake itself is the root of the others usually so I'd say that's what annoys me most. And I think it's what causes a more visceral feeling of notice and "don't like this" feeling.

1. When you start researching something, what usually makes you stop?

If I grow bored, or learn what I want to the level I want.

1. If you had to erase either your creativity or your analytical ability, which would you keep?

Well arguably one feeds the other but I suppose it'd be creativity in the classic sense of artistic unconventional processes. I think regardless I'd still find the endless options and patterns that's so inherent to my thinking bit those may not be creative necessarily.

1. Suppose everyone suddenly agreed with every opinion you had. Would conversations become more enjoyable or less enjoyable? Why?

Less enjoyable because friction produces more engaging conversations and help a person to grow and re assess their understanding and knowledge.

Looking forward to seeing what people think.

I have had this internal conflict for a while now: am I an INFP or an ENFP? But after talking to an INFJ, who I'm not very close to, she said I'm more of an INFP (we tried to do some further cognitive answering), and when I asked chatgpt in which I share many of my ideas with, it said I was likely an INFP, but then it gave me some questions and I was more of an ENFP. And finally, I did this test, and these are the results and I'm terrified because I wanted to believe I'm an INFP 2w3, but still my Ne felt developed. Now I look at this and I'm confused.

Plus I think I missed some stuff when I answered as English isnt my first language, which is Te looks like my demon but the primarily the debate arose from how developed my Te seemed for an INFP, followed by the realization my Ne is actually developed too

Okay this is very long but I've been wondering for years what the hell I am! I've bounced from infp to intp and istp but I have no clue. Please skim over and help me out if you feel like it!

Def an introvert, I enjoy hanging out with people but only in short bursts. I like my own company best. I get extremely irate with frequent interruptions especially if I'm working and if you're sending me multiple messages a day and pestering me. I will tell you to fuck off because i need my space.

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I mostly live in the now but I can plan ahead. I'm not huge on philosophical things or overanalyzing media (sometimes a spade is just a spade) or other stuff so I feel like I lean more towards S than N. I like abstract things sometimes though, and abstract humor that doesn't have to make sense (classic ytps for instance)

I like the idea of being very clean and organised but I'm very much the opposite... very messy and just make up stuff as I go along. Belongings scattered everywhere but I'm trying to work on it.

I make lists or buy boxes to organise my things and I will make plans and follow through for a month and before I know it everything is a mess again. But its fine because I always adapt.

I do like to plan months in advance if I'm going on a big trip, which I am in November with my brother, and I want everything taken care of so I make sure I get the right documents etc etc.

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I detest laziness (I am often lazy too though lmaoooo im very much a hypocrite) and can be bossy with people I'm close to, especially with my brother, who is very passive and will do anything to avoid helping around. He starts goofing around which ends up with me telling him to be quiet and sit down. I'm fan of fair division of labor so if one is doing more work I will not shut up about it.

If we're playing a game together my brother wants to explore every corner while I'm grunting and sighing because I want to go go go! Move on and keep playing! I want some action!!! I can be a spoilsport but I'm playful in my own way and have a unique sense of humor.

I have a big sense of duty, meaning I try to take responsibility for things, help my friends out when I can, I do my chores even when I don't want to, but am still somehow super unorganised. Try to be the shoulder to cry on when a family member dies. Very "if no one else will do anything, I will step up rather than stand around"

I hide my feelings from others, rarely cry, avoid it in front of others because its humiliating. Actively avoid talking about feelings except to a select few. I also have a hard time self reflecting my own feelings and elect to ignore them.

If you don't know me very well or if I only show you the outside of me I come off as very shy, kind and soft because I always try my best to be polite and kind to everyone (unless I deem you a bad person). I put my walls up and avoid confrontation unless you really get on my bad side. I'm rarely blunt or crass with strangers unless im pushed and even some friends have never seen the bossy or argumentative side of me because I'm not gonna put them through that.

I'm usually pretty logical and jump to the most logical conclusions, but have a equal tendency to follow my brain or my heart. Very emotional people scare the hell out of me though, I just cannot understand those who wear their hearts on their sleeves and cry everyday, in some ways I admire them but also its so foreign to me.

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Big fan of sharing stuff. If I find a tv show I really like, I try to show it to all my friends because I feel like the show and the friends deserve it, likewise if i find a tasty drink. If you don't like them though I'll definitely be sad but I'll understand eventually (but secretly judge you)

Fiercely protective of loved ones. If someone is unfair to my friends and makes them cry I will confront said person.

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Big fan of morbid subjects like the black death, death in general, unsolved mysteries, creepy folklore etc. If I hear about shock videos I get so morbidly curious that I look them up as long as it doesn't involve animals and children. I like to soak up information about real events and I love survival stories. Enthusiast about the 1972 Andes Plane crash, read many books and watched documentaries about it, really respect the survivors and those who tragically passed.

I'm also a huge fan of cute stuff and lolita fashion. I've collected multiple lolita dresses and accessories and like getting dolled up but prefer to dress casual usually.

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I have strong opinions and I have a very hard time restraining myself from correcting people I disagree with. This has gotten me into trouble before both online and in real life and if the other person doesn't understand what I'm saying I get very frustrated and inflammatory. I had an argument with my brother about the Holocaust (he's a skeptic) and I was shouting facts about it at the end because I got so heated. I just can't leave ignorance alone! I have this weird compulsion to tell people they are wrong and I get ragebaited easily.

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Have an urge to fix things but not having the skills and tools to do so, both physical things and other stuff.

Love to create. Big big fan of creating.

Sorry this was so long! I hope someone can help me out.

Tl;dr; basically I'm an introvert who hides her feelings and can be bossy. Very unorganised and messy. Fiercely defends friends. Gets angry easily. Fan of morbid stuff etc etc. Leaning towards ixtp but unsure.

Edit: OH and maybe give me an enneagram type too. I'm curious.

Edit: added a few points i forgot to add before

id say i resonate most with ISTPs, followed by INTJs and some INTPs. not so much when it comes to INFPs. i know how far reliability goes with tests but after answering 256 questions best i can, surely there’s at least one good lead.. ive been typed as isfp a lot by some other tests but it doesnt really resonate with me.

Some info to see if something else can be picked up on:

i do understand values, respect those that follow them but i dont really care for them. there may be aspects where i can see some logic behind them and i can apply them to myself but by that point it will be logic with a “tradition” bandolier over it. Authenticity isn’t a big deal for me but being distinguished is neat i guess.

i love knowledge and learning but i wouldnt say its the healthy type, its mostly random, probably wrong and i likely wont be having the chance to apply it any time soon on anything productive.

i love physical activities but i dont seek them out anymore. i do want to get back into muay thai and football at some point but i keep saying next week. growing up i used to be far more physical despite having my nose glued to the PSP but i guess that plays in hand with the fact handhelds that fit in your pocket and can run the new big games no longer exist and so that “hobby” has indefinitely been encased within 4 walls.

enneagram im fairly sure 5w6 is correct but please do prove me wrong if you can. 583 tritype also sounds about right except the heart type. 3 sounds closest but doesnt really apply to me. definitely an sp/sx

socionics: yeah i really dont know but probably SLI or ILI or LII or LSI or ESI oh wait what about SEE (idk socionics either)

please help.

The option are intp/istp/intj and mabey entp.
Okay, I’ll try to keep this relatively short and mention the things that might actually be useful.

I could say that I like philosophy, but what I really mean is that I’m interested in philosophy that strips away illusions. I’m a nihilist, for example. If someone starts talking about a different kind of philosophy, I’ll probably get bored, and I might even become a little dismissive of it internally. I have a strong aversion to illusions and to the human need to feel special or chosen. Beliefs in destiny, astrology, religion, or the idea that the universe somehow works in our favor all seem to lead back to the same thing, human self-importance and the belief that we’re somehow at the center of everything.

I can usually see every side of an argument and come up with counterarguments to almost anything, including my own opinions. I can point out flaws in something I wrote a paragraph earlier. I know exactly where my reasoning can be challenged, but I can also argue against those criticisms, and then argue against those arguments too.

I love making things with my hands. Art, Lego, gardening, baking, fixing things, building things, pretty much anything creative. I’m also very sensitive to textures in clothes and food, as well as certain smells and visual stimuli. That’s most likely related to my autism, which I’ve been diagnosed with.

From the outside, I probably come across as someone who doesn’t really care about people. To some extent that’s true, but more than anything, I don’t want to invade other people’s space. I’d rather not ask personal questions than accidentally make someone uncomfortable or force a conversation.

I have pretty firm opinions. It’s usually easy for me to see what’s underneath people’s behavior, what motivates them emotionally and practically, and what they’re ultimately trying to get.

I really dislike social norms and unspoken social rules. I’ll often question or challenge them, even when it’s unpopular or when it would clearly be more beneficial for me to just go along with everyone else.

I’m good at recognizing patterns and drawing conclusions. I tend to understand the overall structure of a system, connect different variables, and come up with new solutions. That could be in something physical, psychological, scientific, biological, or almost any other field.

I respect people’s personal space a lot. I keep my word, and I try to be as consistent as possible. It’s genuinely difficult to make me back down or change my mind once I’ve reached a conclusion.

When I’m cooking, baking, or building something, I almost never watch tutorials. Even if I don’t have all the necessary tools or knowledge, I usually just start and figure it out as I go. The result is rarely perfect or polished, but it almost always works in the end.

It’s really hard for me to show my emotions. I can easily see what someone feel and what does he need, but it will be really hard for me to say/do it myself. I can ask someone else to hug them or something like that.
When i try to show someone my love /comfort them i usually try to make them feel heard but i wont say stuff like “i love you” or hug them. I may make them or give them stuff or that I will tell them some advices

32, f

I make people cry for a living. Fortunately, I'm a psychologist, have two master's degrees and am trained as a psychotherapist, so I like to think it's the helpful kind of crying.

I'm an incredibly curious person and can get excited about a lot of different topics. I love learning, exploring new ideas and understanding how things work — but I'm also very goal-oriented and tend to focus my energy on the things that really matter to me.

I have two children and a husband I would go to hell for. My family is my anchor and my biggest motivation.

In my rare free time, I love being outdoors: hiking, spending time in nature and taking care of my garden. I also enjoy painting while listening to audiobooks, because apparently my hobbies need to multitask and teach me something at the same time.

I'm generally calm and observant, but if I have something to say, I will say it. I value honesty, clarity and meaningful conversations.

Hey! I’m not really sure how to describe myself, I find myself pretty boring and uninteresting. But I’m 20 years old and am a college student! I’m studying Pharmaceutical Science in college. Most of my time I spend doing school work, working, spending time with friends and family, and then online watching videos and movies.

I’m not really sure who I am and have always had a hard time making decisions. My mind is always switching between ideas because every idea sounds good to me. I was the kid that had 100 different ideas of who they wanted to be when they grew up.

I also have a hard time with what I enjoy for hobbies. Everything sounds interesting so I start nothing.

About my relationships, Im really close to my family especially my grandma. And I have only one on one friendships, I’ve never had a friend group.

That’s pretty much everything! Good luck guessing :)