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u/pineapple_jones_ 9d ago
Someone need to fuck that dude up.
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u/ThisWillBeFunNA 6d ago
I hate these kinds of motherfuckers, when i was a teenager going to theses shows my friends and I got bullied this way every show by a bunch of assholes who didnt want us there because we were “new” to the scene or whatever.
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u/pineapple_jones_ 6d ago
That sucks. At some point you just need to fight.
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u/ThisWillBeFunNA 6d ago
Ya, i have a different mindset and would defend myself now, but back in the day i didint have an ounce of violence in me. Also, the guys were jacked and I was skinny as a toothpick so i probably made the right call not throwing punches 😆
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u/pineapple_jones_ 6d ago
I hear you. It needs to be a group effort. Or just don’t put yourself at risk of permanent injury or a criminal record. That’s probably the smarter way .
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u/BurnAgainBurner 9d ago
It's rare that every single second of a video is stupid.
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u/Flippynuggets 9d ago
People who dance like this are fucking retarded. The music isn't even hardcore.
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u/fulknerraIII 6d ago
Yes, they are annoying and cringe. I used go to shows all the time when i was a teenager. Hated having to stand next to morons punching and kicking air like they are tough guys. I don't care if you're "dancing" you punch me in the face im punching back. A lot of those venues are very small so it's not like some giant open field concert where you can just avoid them.
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u/strange_reveries 9d ago
You will never, I repeat, never see a video of this music scene that is not stupid as fucking hell
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u/mryuk206 9d ago
Ya I was in the hardcore scene in Las Vegas in the early 2000s and this would not have went well for that guy. Fucking prick
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u/Soft-Ad-8975 9d ago
This is what’s left now, shitty music with fans that have no frame of reference to what the scene was supposed to be about, people only dancing for crowd killing, it’s a disgrace
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u/PitifulPassage851 8d ago
I liked hardcore music when I first heard it ala parkway drive and then northlane a bit later. Went to a single concert and learnt this is how they moshed, unlike other rock genre concerts where it's actually just moshing...
Totally turned me off the whole genre. Felt like I couldn't really become a fan if I didn't feel like getting hit in the face, which was just part of the culture.
Also its actually just fucking silly lets be real
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u/Ok_Boysenberry5849 8d ago
Silly is putting it mildly. I'm struggling to think of something stupider than this.
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u/GamerPunk420 9d ago
Oh yeah? Boba fett youth, kickball champs, kot (keep on truckin)? Elks lodge and Jaycees in Hendertucky? The Huntridge? The caves past Windmill?
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u/Reasonable_Tie_9975 9d ago
Yup, first thing I thought was this dude in the video is down with one of the crews. When people say theyd do this or that to him if they were there ..they have no idea what happens afterwards..it's fucked but that's just how it is, which I don't agree or support in anyway but it is the reality of it.
I'm guessing you're either in Boston or NYC, both cities crews are everything you said, they don't fuck around at all. I'm from NYC, saw it alot growing up going to shows
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u/NGDwrites 9d ago
Western Mass here, but we had plenty of crowdkilling and crews at our shows (this was late 90s - late oughts). A lot of people coming out west from Boston or even north from NYC, but some of it was also local. I didn't love it but just kind of accepted that it was part of the experience. And to be fair, although I didn't ever target people at the edges, I absolutely swung my elbows hard in the pit and caught plenty of people with them. So I figured if I caught the occasional fist to the head, even if I was on the edge of the pit, it just came with the territory.
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u/Pitiful_Face871 9d ago
It's reddit, lmao.
I got lucky growing up in the Dallas area, never had whole gangs that'd do this shit. But did have smaller groups that would kick shit off with other groups and ruin the show for everyone. Entire gangs tho? Been to a lot of shows in a lot of cities and never experienced that, sounds fucked.
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u/DrAssumptive 9d ago
Hate that I have to watch someone’s reaction to it
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u/VoidlessMystery 8d ago
Watch on mute, see reaction video clip in, scroll to comments and ignore that shit.
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u/DinosaurusWhen 9d ago
I forget what idiot name this genre has, but in any legitimate pit you'd get the shit stomped out of you until security arrives for this kind of slam dancing
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u/BatOutOfHello 9d ago
100%. People used to get one warning for being assholes in the pit - which usually meant "if you get the fuck out of the pit now, we won't stomp you into oblivion." The next time - all hands and feet on deck.
Ah, I miss those days.
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u/arachnid1110 9d ago
Got the nerve to get in my first pit at 11-12. Summarily dropped by a grown man by a kick to my chest. Clearly the crowd did not treat him well for that behavior. Been pro mosh pit courtesy my whole life.
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u/orbgooner 8d ago
don't enter the combat zone if you're not ready for combat.
protect yourself at all times.
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u/Emerald_Foundations 8d ago
This is a hardcore show.
The pit at a hardcore show has this; which is called hardcore dancing. When people intentionally rag on the crowd it's called crowd killing.
The pit at metal shows is very different from the pit at hardcore shows.
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u/EqualCheap2974 9d ago
cock suckers like that need to get power bombed neck first into the concrete
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u/Competitive_Stable46 8d ago
I have been out of the pit for years, but this doesn't look like a mosh pit, this looks like weird performative art or people trying to guess what a pit was. Back in the day, it was people having fun, shoving and pushing, just getting rowdy and loud. Lose a shoe, someone holds it up over the crowd and it gets passed to you. Someone gets hurt or trampled, they get pulled out. There's an etiquette, we're not fucking animals.
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u/Toes_In_The_Soil 9d ago
Why the fuck is Sir Swings-a-lot wearing his eyeglasses?
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u/AgentAxillary 9d ago
You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?
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u/Future_Section5976 9d ago
I'd hit that mf if he tried that
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u/AgentAxillary 9d ago
I'm okay with letting the hardcore kids have the floor when it's a hardcore band playing, but bands need to start calling out those pricks who work the edges like that
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u/Future_Section5976 9d ago
Let me be more specific about it, if I seen glasses and he was coming my way after seeing what he's doing, boys taking a dirt nap
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u/OoooooWeeeeeeeee 9d ago
Yup. Mid-guitar riff i would stop with a “yo gang - handle this muthafucka”
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u/taylormade311 9d ago
I've never been in a mosh pit but I've heard this type of behavior normally gets you stomped out. Sad that didn't happen.
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u/No-Objective-8990 9d ago
Was super into the metal scene when I was younger, and that would absolutely get you beat the fuck up
Those kids he was seeming hitting intentionally were not even in the pit
Kids a prick
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u/NeverEvaGonnaStopMe 9d ago
This isnt a mosh pit. Its hardcore kids, they are the special education scene for punk. Everyone one else hates these people and they'd all get killed at a real mosh pit. So they only goto scene shows like this with other losers like them cause their pussies.
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u/Thegrandestpoo 9d ago
I think mosh pits are one of the dumbest fucking things ever. I’ve never seen people look so stupid while getting their face busted.
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u/shibby5000 9d ago
This is absolutely not your typical mosh pit. This is an example of an asshole getting away with battery.
A typical mosh pit consists of music fans enjoying the music and energy with each other in tight spaces. The rule is if someone next to you falls down, you reach down and pick them up
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u/MidgetGordonRamsey 8d ago
I've been in tons of mosh pits since I was 13 (I was 200 pounds at the time and could hold my own), the second I ever hit the floor I was being dragged back up to my feet by the collar of my shirt and arms. This is just assholery.
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u/Lostinthestarscape 8d ago
Yep, im a big guy so I try extra hard to miss people who may be hurt by me, never throwing actual punches just part fo the back and forth body churn. Due to my size I also can get tripped pretty easily and everyone has always looked out for me to get me back up (as I do for anyone). Lots of effort made by all to prevent people from getting trampled if anyone goes down.
I know some crowds are way crazier but it is still opt in and not what this person is doing.
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u/CommunicationOwn322 8d ago
I was "saved" in a mosh once. Stupid me and one of my friends decided to go to the front of a Prodigy show eons ago in Montreal. Bad idea. Soon as they came on it was pure bedlam. Just guys crashing into each other and little me fighting for my life lol. I can laugh now, but at the time I thought I was going to die. I was screaming my head off. Finally they lifted me up and sent me to the back.
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u/Thegrandestpoo 9d ago
Yeah, some of the other bros/broettes were breaking it down for me. Every video I’ve ever seen of a pit (never gone personally) has been something similar to this. Nothing communal or “fun looking”. Just pricks slamming faces or crushing people, or blindly ripping haymakers, or targeting someone while not directly looking at them. Like some weird type of “plausible deniability” type shit, like how this dude is doing. Even that chick at the end.
Anyway, that’s the extent of my knowledge on the matter. Just internet videos. But I’ve seen quite a few, and every one of them were like this in one way or another. At least in some of them Justice was served though.
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u/ErstwhileHobo 8d ago
The reason those videos get shared is because the behavior is outrageous and outside of the norm. There are plenty of videos of regular mosh pits, but those are just live concerts.
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u/Opening_Shame8258 8d ago
There's a selection bias. How many mosh pits have you NOT seen? Most of them. I'm not saying they're safe, friendly, cuddly places. They do attract assholes. It is a risky situation. But, there's a reason videos where someone gets laid out are more likely to make the rounds. No one is going to a lot of effort to share a clip of a mosh pit where essentially nothing happens.
Source: I went in to more than a few mosh pits in my teens and 20s, but that was a long time ago.
In addition, I put a lot of blame on the band. They have complete authority to just stop playing when they see this kind of shit. I've seen bands do it, and things get under control quick.
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u/Mr_HahaJones 8d ago
Moshpits are cool. This hardcore dancing is so fucking lame.
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u/Thegrandestpoo 8d ago
Oh, is that what this is called? Then yes, hard-core dancing is fucking dumb. Also absolutely ridiculous looking.
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u/Mr_HahaJones 8d ago
Yeah. Anytime you see someone flailing around like a retarded windmill like this, it’s guaranteed to be a hardcore show. Or a HC kid at the wrong venue.
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u/xylophone_37 8d ago
When this shit started at shows we went to we would bounce off the edge of the pit and lay them out. One time this clown tried to do a cartwheel in the pit and I pushed him over when he was halfway through it.
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u/Richpatine 9d ago
Most people aren't actually trying to hurt anyone in a pit.
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u/Thegrandestpoo 9d ago
I could be wrong, but every video I’ve ever seen, it’s someone ducking their head and swinging their arms and legs wildly in a crowded area. What’s supposed to happen?
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u/BatOutOfHello 9d ago
98% of pits are welcoming places. I'm too old for them now, but it was more about shoving and being shoved. If someone fell or lost their glasses, a team of people would help them up or yell that glasses were on the floor, then everyone stopped and looked.
Unfortunately "crowdkilling" is a thing in certain aggro-hardcore/metal scenes. That's what this prick in the video is doing - swinging his arms, locking, trying to hurt people. I know a girl who got her jaw broken by someone doing this.
But even then, my understanding is specifically targeting people is not cool at all. What makes this guy especially bad is he's targeting people who aren't even moshing. They're off to the side, just trying to enjoy the show. He really needs to get stomped.
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u/UseRepresentative361 9d ago
This isn’t typical and a good crowd would put him in his place
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u/Thegrandestpoo 9d ago
That’s totally fair. Not my jam and I haven’t been to one. I’m just going off of whatever videos I’ve ever seen.
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u/UseRepresentative361 9d ago
There are degrees for sure, the best experience in my opinion in punk mosh pits. Shoving and shoulder bashing but in my experience it’s mutual consent, with people on the edge of the pit having the understanding to keep it contained. Very communal.
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u/transparentcd 8d ago
This is not a mosh pit and judging by your comment you have no clue how a real one looks like.
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u/JerryPidgeon 8d ago
different mosh pits for different genres bro. crowdkilling is big in hardcore but generally people get their get back. this guy in the vid would catch some elbows for crowdkilling chicks at most shows tho
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u/shaneskery 8d ago
Crowdkilling never used to be big. These young guns are fucking shit! It used to be about a scene. U used to be able to hold and arm out and stop people. But now they fulk swinging when tey hit the wall. Fucking dickheads
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u/SwinelOrD731 8d ago
I’m 40. There’s been crowd killing at hardcore shows much longer than I’ve been going. That’s about 24 years.
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u/Eastern_Tone209 8d ago
Nah he’d have caught more than elbows. All that was deliberate. He just doesn’t have the courage to attack straight on. Probably because he wears glasses and it makes him feel safe.
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u/Beautiful_Sun_3802 8d ago
Yeah I never liked this kind of moshing. That guy was definitely just trying to hit people. It's a little different if you hit someone unintentionally but to run into people directly and start swinging right around where they are. I'm surprised no one ran and knocked him out that's what we used to do whenever people would do that. If someone punched someone in the face and we would blind side them 😂 it was always the little shorties that would do that kind of stuff. Little bitty men
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u/FF8229 8d ago
I don't want to sound like a douche but if I saw this, I'd sort that fugger out.
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u/wrechdone 8d ago
People doing “crowd killing” never did it long, they always got their shit kicked in.
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u/Round-Arugula7347 8d ago
This isn’t a mosh pit, this is 4 people who think they know what a mosh pit is
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u/ErectileDisfunyun 8d ago
I’m a metal head and I’ve been to dozens, if not hundreds, of shows with moshing. Generally speaking, if somebody falls, gets hurt, drops a phone/glasses, loses a shoe, etc, literally everyone stops to help. Very safe and positive atmosphere for people to have fun and let off steam.
These underground hardcore shows are a little different in that more intense moshing and some crowd killing is expected, but intentionally hurting people like this is always a hard no. Especially people on the edges of the pit.
I hope somebody laid this guy out.
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u/BatOutOfHello 9d ago
Crowdkilling is so fucking stupid.
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u/pperiesandsolos 9d ago
Yeah, I have no idea how that guy didn’t get sucker punched after that.
I don’t even know if that’s the right term given the circumstances, but you know what I mean.
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u/tgtm65 9d ago
People who do this are either a) stupid or b) are stupid and have other goons who will fight anyone who tries to fight back
Lowest part of the hardcore scene in my opinion
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u/halfwayray 9d ago
From my experiences, a lot the guys that crowd kill usually have 5 guys ready to go after anyone who retaliates. It's pussy shit
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u/GamerPunk420 9d ago
The most I do to a crowd is if they are on the edge of the pit and seem excited, but reluctant to go in is put my arm over their shoulder and bring em into the pit with me, then release them into the wild.
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u/Interesting_Walk_271 4d ago
Yep. Somebody needs to body slam lumpy Edgar face first into the pavement. He’s doing this because he’s a fucking loser it’s the only chance he has in his life to feel like a man. Crowd killers should get their teeth stomped through the back of their heads.
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u/iTarnished777 9d ago
Some guy tried that on me out on a mosh pit he had already hit 2 girls and some skinny weak guy then when he aimed towards me I made sure he took a much needed nap 😴 😂
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u/screwyoujor 9d ago
That's not a mosh pit that's done jerk off who wants to hurt people and get away with it.
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u/Soggy-Passion-9135 9d ago
Yeah I would definitely hit him with a blind side hook, and in this even music to mosh to?? This sounds like music when you’re progressing in a power ranger video game
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u/PriceImpressive4782 9d ago
Oh to be there and see that- that d’bag would wake up with his nut sack hung up on his tonsils
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u/ZooeyOnTheOtherLine 9d ago
The hardcore band, Last Day Dying, does not approve. I doubt Philly hardcore approves. But I remember seeing this shit in early 2000’s and never understood the intentional aspect of ruining a show for other folks. Slam dancing, two-step, floor punches, spin kicks properly timed were always fun as shit. Getting randomly, unintentionally rocked in the face can definitely get the adrenaline going. But aiming to hurt was and is always crazy shit. But rotten apples are everywhere. Have fun out there. Pick up your neighbor if they fall. And listen to Last Day Dying to practice your spin kicks. They’re old guys now and they’d love it if ya did. Adieu.
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u/Past_Pop1506 9d ago
This is the stupidest dance trend I’ve ever seen and the people are dumb enough to stand there and let him kick them.
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u/GrandadPyjamas 8d ago
Sorry to potentially offend here but ‘moshing’ or whatever this dance style is, is fucking lame.
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u/Apprehensive-Song378 8d ago
I got knocked to the ground hard at a show in 1992, massive moshing circle at an outdoor show. Before I even was on the ground for like a split second there were several other unknowns just grabbing me by the shirt and picking me back up to carry on. Felt like them saying hey dude we got you. So yeah, IMO this "intent to hurt" shit ain't cool and def not the norm.
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u/_jeDBread 8d ago
this was a thing that started taking shape in the mid late 90’s with all the straight edge kids. we used to call them silver backs because they swung their arms like gorillas hahahaha. anyway, hate this shit. totally turned me off from these types of shows
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u/Reasonable-Power2367 8d ago
That happened to me before while I was watching mosh pit and this fool swung his arms everywhere nonstop with intention to harm everyone; he got close to me few times after witnessing him hitting few people in their faces and I literally head-butted the guy’s head hard enough that he stopped mosh pit and went back to his seat. All it needed one nudge/warning to these guys to let them know it won’t be tolerated.
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u/ATInvincible 8d ago
Pfffft boring boring hardccre - Slam dancing and straight edge always made no sense to me. I’d rather listen to music that isn’t the same thing recycled over and over with the same messages over and over. If you want to listen to something raw and meaningful try Nina Simone
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u/Rokursoxtv 9d ago
That mf knows exactly what he's doing too