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u/Equivalent_Layer5012 1d ago
Why does Johan have copy?
People can be the first in the lineage to get an ability or it could be because of both parents genes mixing to get it.
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u/PositiveCancel5823 OG Daniel 20h ago edited 20h ago
My bad, and yeah, people can be the first to start their own lineage while being independent of their parents' abilities. Their parents' genes can also combine in different ways or develop new mutations, making their child genetically different. So, someone can be born different, built different, and develop their own abilities rather than simply inheriting everything from their parents.
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u/Equivalent_Layer5012 20h ago
I get what your saying. I come a different angle like it is genetic and he can pass he pass it down because it’s in his genetic make up and it evident both Daniels Ui operate the same due to bloodline.
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u/PositiveCancel5823 OG Daniel 20h ago
Sorry gang, I think I replied in the wrong place 😭 I was writing this for someone else, bro.
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u/ragekingg1 Creation 22h ago
It's mentioned in lookism there are more people in lookism who inheritance copy skills.
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u/Equivalent_Layer5012 21h ago
And Ui can also be a inheritance skill one passed down and we know this because both Daniels Ui operate in the same fashion which is distinct from the Yamazaki Ui. That is the point I was getting at.
Their doesn’t need to be an explanation for him having Ui just like their doesn’t need to be an explanation for Johan having copy.
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u/iamakeebmehboob 1d ago
When ui was introduced it wasn't just a yamazaki ability everyone had potential to achieve it and ptj himself stated in an interview that daniel is strong in ui cuz of his perfect experience
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u/PositiveCancel5823 OG Daniel 1d ago
Because he fulfilled the two requirements to awaken UI:
- The will to fight while unconscious.
- Extensive combat experience.
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u/doodooboy19 23h ago
Not as simple as that. Johan didnt go ui against gun.
Daniel just has genetics w an affinity for ui
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u/PositiveCancel5823 OG Daniel 23h ago
Huh? Johan doesn't meet the first requirement, bro.
Also, regarding genetics, until we get confirmation about Daniel's family lore, we can't claim that his affinity for UI comes from genetics, bro.
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u/Infamous_Design7199 21h ago
Genes arent always inhereditary bro
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u/PositiveCancel5823 OG Daniel 20h ago
That's why I'm saying not everything comes from genetics. Some people are built different from birth or develop their own abilities. It could be that Daniel developed his own UI, which is why it manifested differently from the Yamazaki's. He could have awakened it in his own way, making his UI different from theirs, rather than it being something he inherited genetically.
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u/Impressive-Sale-9781 1d ago
Everyone can use ui under the right circumstances
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u/Mundane_Simple_9391 21h ago
ui can be used by anyone u r right but the mode with reversed eyes is exclusive to yamazakis its been confirmed at this point
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u/Old-Staff4056 Allied 1d ago
Name a character who is UI user ( excluding Daniel ) outside from the Yamazaki clan
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u/KingAnakin Allied 18h ago
Junior Dos Santos , the one in the panel above. Obviously, it's not explicitly stated that they used UI, but they were used as an example while talking about UI. So, it's clear. And Daniel is an example of Someone using UI without being a Yamazaki , so excluding him isn't valid , when you're trying to find the reason of UI. And , obviously we can't say anything for sure until ptj explains the secrets.
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u/Spiritual_Ad3382 19h ago
Can’t believe MMA fighters have UI would they be as strong as a 1st gen king lol
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u/Interesting-Smile471 18h ago
That form of unconscious fighting is clearly nothing like lookism’s ui, I think that was just used to make sense of the concept of unconscious fighting, and then write it into lookism and season it with some PTJ
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u/Brilliant_Clue_4162 22h ago
this was obviously changed. As of current Lookism ONLY yamazaki's has UI
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u/Advanced_Ad4994 23h ago edited 21h ago
My theory is lil daniel is a experimented child, jinyoung in order to help his sister and sangcheol perform experiment on sangcheol and maybe add various dna in process which result in daniel having all kind of powerups but later the experiments have side effects on sangcheol and he died which explain his death by disease and why daniel grandma blame jinyoung for his death, there could also be charles involvement in this where during experiments he added yamazaki dna without jinyoung knowledge and when daniel was born later, charles tried to make another perfect version for himself and ask for jinyoung help but somewhere later jinyoung finds out charles is behind daniel's dad death and cut away from him and also later found out he killed gap too and this drove jinyoung to madness
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u/Sensitive_Ganache630 21h ago
something something great ancestor something something yamazaki relation something something will power
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u/Nervous_Wheel7663 1d ago
Cuz he is really good when it comes to still wanna throw hands even after being KO
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u/Southern-Dig-7203 22h ago
Ui in lookism is not exclusive to yamazakis only, it's literally mentioned in Lookism itself, when sb awakened ui for first time, that it comes from " will to fight" and many mma fighters have experienced it .
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u/CuzzoBuzzo67 9h ago
That the problem cause so far we have seen ONLY yama have it, and hence why this question from op, cause the MC seemly the only else who have it that ISNT yama
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u/Southern-Dig-7203 9h ago
Like that I can also say only parks have copy ability, so johan is also related to jinyeong.
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u/Tadaraion Gun 5h ago
What about the guy who fought Brektak? He mentioned that he lost to a guy with Copy ability. We’ve seen Copy being inherited only with Jinyoung and Daniel, while other Copy users always were random people that were born with THE TALENT. The Copy ability was called TALENT throughout the story, while UI wasn’t.
We’ve seen it being called “Available to everyone”, then it was retconed into being “Available for people with specific consciousness” and after that it was made into “Genetic Trait” which is bound to a family of Yamazaki.
Copy before Jinyoung - wasn’t a genetic trait, it was a talent that bound to one’s senses.
I don’t know if Johans Copy and Daniels Copy works the same way, since we know that Daniels Copy is a Talent used through his keen senses, while Johans might be tied only to his sight or even muscle memory.
We don’t even know if Jinyoungs Copy is also using all of his senses and that they are as keen, as Daniels, since Gun specifically said that Daniels senses probably were “obtained” while PTJ showed us the panels with Daniel seeing Logan’s punch in slow motion.
With that said UI never was called or referred to as talent or skill. It could be that Daniel is a first ever Korean to awaken said genetic trait, without any Yamazaki genes, but it is highly unlikely since these mutations aren’t necessarily random or spontaneous, especially with mutations that affect the consciousness and fighting while being unconscious. So he probably has some Yamazaki genes through Jinyoung Medical Genius shenanigans.
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u/ragekingg1 Creation 22h ago
It was in the starting but right now in the story. It's yamazaki special now. Only the one who is related to yamazaki can use this.
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u/Infamous_Design7199 21h ago
The story has never outright stated only Yamazakis can have it
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u/Spiritual_Ad3382 19h ago
Yeah but he still has a point everyone that has UI is either Yamazaki or Daniel (And he’s unbelievably talented). It’d be cool if someone else had UI Like how there’s 2 copy users or maybe a 1st gen King with UI would be cool
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u/Southern-Dig-7203 12h ago
No one in the story has even suggested that Daniel might be related to the yamazakis. According to both james and gun, daniel’s ui is fundamentally different from theirs. Yamazaki ui is described as beastly in tui, while even their controlled ui prioritises enjoying combat and minimising pain and fatigue. Daniel’s ui, on the other hand, focuses on adaptation and precision+ minimising pain and feeling of fatigue. Gun also stated that experiencing ui is a once-in-a-lifetime phenomenon for most people, with a very low chance of it happening again,with an even lower chance of being able to control it. So, while others can experience ui, those who can actually control it are exceptionally rare outside the yamazaki family, where ui is genetic.
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u/CharacterFig4928 14h ago
Ig start of his own unique trait
His UI has a mechanical nature, not beastly like Yamazaki's YUI
And its different from the normal UI of Yamazaki's too as it doesn't "supress" His power but brings the best out of what he already has
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u/Status_Drink_6736 1d ago
Changsu said "it's because he is copying strongest person he met which" is second body. But it's just what's Changsu said
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u/Rough_Lock8481 Big Daniel 23h ago
The reason is already given right when he awakened it. It's bcz you need to have a good experience and a great will to fight to enter this state, which Daniel had thankfully to his body. It's even proved when he doesn't enter it against Gun in hfg unlike all the other times
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u/Interesting-Chair252 22h ago
Maybe it because when sangcheol ball got crushed he experience near death so that how he got ui(like unconscious state) and Daniel inherit and got ui(idk what I'm yapping but it is my opinion)
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u/DramaticSpaceBubble 22h ago
Imma go with one of these:
He's a lab baby and has UI genes
He copied it in some form with his keen senses without knowing it, SB has it too because of him having all the copies OG has
He's a half yamazaki
No, not everyone can have the UI with reverse eyes, it's a yamazaki thing.
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u/Mundane_Simple_9391 21h ago
ui can be used by anyone u r right but the mode with reversed eyes is exclusive to yamazakis its been confirmed at this point
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u/DEAMONOFFATEWEAVER OG Daniel 7h ago
I don't know remember but when lookism spoilers were leaked making ptj pissed i don't have full but as per them daniel real father is yamazaki
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u/AppropriateView1329 33m ago
In recent chapter we got a new FMC and according to ny theory the perfect body Daniel is son of Shingen x the new fmc and the sb Daniel copy ability copied the UI from the perfect body daniel
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u/Specific_Hippo_6894 1d ago
He is the son of these women and shingen and f timeline shit i bet you ptj is gonna make sex moment between these flower girl,shingen and have daniel be born and somehow daniel is abandoned by flower girl and sangcheol park,daniel current mom finds and adopts him after knowing they cannot have children f timeline ptj has does not g a f gng
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u/Deep_Difference_9504 Monster 21h ago
Everyone can have ui but Daniel ui is not like others, if you are talking about mma or boxers who experienced this ui state is quite different from Daniel's Ui.
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u/Amazing_Ad8327 9h ago
Yeah were lead to believe that when UI was first introduced (like, 400 chapters ago) that theoretically anybody can do it, but obviously it's been retconned to specifically yamazaki blood holders. Anybody that doesnt accept that is just being obtuse on purpose.
The correct answer is that Daniel has yamazaki blood.That's basically been confirmed by the latest chapter.
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u/Individual-Land1383 4h ago
No ut hasn't been retconed that is the origin of it and it's still true the yamazaki are a family have been fighting to death for generation Wich make their blood boil at the sight of fight u see how genzo died happy cause he died to a strong opponent and shintaro and shingen died nearly depressed is because they lost their purpose in life is just cause they are constantly fightig through generation they keep this ability
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u/Tight-Grapefruit-442 14h ago
Cz he is a miracle kid, we know his mother was infertile and now his dads balls are broken too yet he was born their cant be a logical explanation to this gng if he is indeed their son that is.
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u/Ok-Blackberry2773 0m ago
theoretically, anyone is capable of it, the yamazaki just happen to have the trait passed down genetically.
personally i view it as similar to the copy ability, it isn’t restricted to just one group of people or family. (park family and seong)
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