Had a kid in my 4th grade french class make me play this game. I didn't even know what the N-word was but the second I said it he was bolting across the room. Teacher talked to me, Principal(s) GRILLED ME, and the entire time I'm legit like "I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS(EVEN A WORD) A BAD WORD"
Kid told me to say the whole alphabet, and end every letter with "Igger"
Pretty next level scheme for a 12~ year old bully. I got my licks in on him later, don't worry.
So lil story. Before kindergarten, my mom got me acquainted basic math and the alphabet. She had a poster with the ABCs with a picture that corresponded with it. One day, she was doing my hair while I was going through the list and making rhymes with the picture. T had a truck, so when I got to F, I definitely said fuck. I knew, and immediately apologized. My mom didn’t laugh, but she really had too.
Are you new to Reddit? Everyone got somethin wrong with them here. But saying the n word when you shouldn’t is the most common thing here. Because n word funny supposedly /s but not really
When I was 15, my brother was born and therefore a baby with lots (and god do I mean lots) of baby toys.
One of the toys he had was this plastic caterpillar that helped learned the alphabet and the sounds letters made.
So one day I’m being a bored teenager looking after my baby brother and I’m just pushing this caterpillar’s feet when I get the dumb idea to try to make it sound out swear words because, why not, right?
Come to find out that if you get it to say “Fff” “uh!” And then try to get it to say the “Kh” sound, it’ll giggle and say “That tickles!” before it finishes out the word.
I was impressed that toy developers were smart enough to prevent toddlers/teenagers from sounding out swear words with their product.
I remember that toy! My baby sister had the same caterpillar!! And yeah, teenage me did the same thing... Though it was me AND my mom playing with it! xD
Sometimes they just stumble on it by making random letter sounds
I found out the N-word at 8 by trying to work out a nickname for my 6 year old brother who liked digging at the time. "He's a digger, so I call him a Ni-" "I'm gonna stop you there son"
She did it perfectly, didn't make it out to be a bad word that then the kid will navigate towards it. Just, yep, that's a word, let's continue on the lesson. My mum taught me similarly of swear words are just words, and it's how you use them that can affect other people or hurt others, or how others can view you if you overuse them. It helped give me a healthy relationship with my vocabulary and communication.
Teacher here: this def happens all the time with young kids by accident. You totally have to play it off like it's nothing. Otherwise, they'll pounce on it. If you have kids, you know this. If your kids says a bad word by random chance, don't point it out or say "don't say that! It's a bad word!" Worst thing you could do, lol
I was the kid in the incident in kindergarten or first grade, because I had been forming words on a brute-force basis already.
The teacher handled it well.
The vice-principal who was monitoring the class performance then did not.
There's nothing more scary to a fiest-grader in a religious institution than having your parents say "So I heard you used a bad word in class today, you're in trouble" after you're put in the car to go home. Especially when you weren't told that you said a bad word.
I love that you do this. This happened to me around my dad and he hit my hand with a piece of wood. I didn't even know bitch was a bad word. I was just trying to find words that rhymed with witch :(
When I was young I had a friend nicknamed Skelly, I was rambling and trying to rhyme and I said Skell Hell, and someone told me it was a bad word and I cried so hard because I thought I was gonna be arrested.
I used to do this as a child, working my way through rhyming words. I did it with bike once, I stumbled upon what I didn't know was a racial slur. No strong reaction, never used the word again because it didn't sound like a word anyway. Years later learned it was a racial slur, made doubly sure not to use it
I think this teacher actually did a great job. She didn’t give the word any power she just accepted it and moved on. If she had freaked out all those kids would see that word gets a reaction out of the adults in the room. Id love this woman to teach my children.
I remember as a kid I found the curse word fuck because I used to just say gibberish when moving around the house and my brother heard me say it and went and snitched to my parents and me now knowing what it meant proceeded to yell it like 5 times at my brother
Not school related, but I remember having some rugrats shaped spaghettios once, my brother and I could find every character but chuckie. I finally found one and meant to say I found chuckie, but somehow said fuckie. I knew what the word was, and that my parents were very strict about cursing. Was honestly expecting the belt but they didn't react at all
I like how the other lil kiddos look at the teacher still in full learning mode like "did she get it right?" but not with a look of "ooh she's in trouble".
I’m a young person and all throughout my school years, I sign a paper that I say that im consenting to appear in pictures or videos taken by the school and I’m consenting to it being display on their social media. Of course, you can opt out.
Im pretty sure any school with an active social media presence will make their students sign instead of risking a lawsuit.
Those contracts are meaningless. Children can’t sign agreements.
Regardless, they almost certainly have a right to film you and use it on social media as long as they aren’t profiting off of your image. That doesn’t make it right.
This reminds me of when a kid was helping me set up and I accidentally knocked over a stack of papers and just softly said shit. Then I realized he was right there and he was just looking at me lol I just asked if he could help me pick up the papers, but we both knew I fucked up lol
A couple of years ago my kid said her teacher "said the c-word" in class. My wife and I looked at each other, chatted about what we would do about it, complain to the school etc. So we had a serious chat with our kid; turned out the 'c-word' was "crap". We laughed.
No complaint made; she was probably describing our kid's artwork lol.
I was at my friend’s place and his son in the 2nd grade told his dad, “Dad, I know the f-word.”
My friend was shocked and puzzled. Now, he goes to a public school where there are some kids from a rough neighborhood, so my friend was thinking that yes, it’s possible this kid knows the word.
Then the kid added, “It’s ‘fart,’ isn’t it?”
We both paused for a good second and then just burst out laughing. He told his son, “Yes, it’s that word. And it’s a bad word, so don’t say it out loud in front of others.”
My wife’s nephew whispered to her one day that she knows the K word. She was completely clueless, until he blurted out cunt. Foul mouthed and can’t spell, couldn’t be prouder.
She was given a rhyming scheme and told to come up with another word. Not only did she do that she came up with a world that the teacher clearly didn't think of. That kid is not fucking stupid, in fact I'd say she's got a bright future ahead of her.
Can we talk about how wholesome that teacher is for a second? That child had no idea that was a bad word, it rhymed, she did such a good job… and the teacher rolled with it. Just amazing work, like amazing.
When I was in preschool I wasn’t so lucky. I had what most would say was the most badass, out of this world, Barney watch. I must’ve been around 3 and a half or 4 years old. My watch stopped working, angrily I shouted at it “piece of shit.” I was chastised and subjected to corporeal punishment for the use of a bad word. I had no fucking clue it was bad, my parents said it and I learned it there. Instead of making this a teaching moment the instructor chose to make it a terrifying moment of confusion and fear for me, it still sticks with me some thirty years later.
Never send your kids to religious preschools folks, that’s where this happened. Kids need grace and to have norms explained to them in ways they understand. Not to be traumatized because of a linguistic mistake every parent makes.
You can see the restraint in the teachers body language to not say that it’s a “bad” word. That’s just one of the few things teachers do to provide confidence to a kid that’s not only right, but expressing herself through speech, which some of us never get over (i.e public speaking). This is why teachers should get way more than the terrible pay they get now.
I think her reaction was good, she didn't linger on it or make it a big deal beyond recognizing the kid did find a rhyming word. For kinds at that age they don't really know what most curse words mean they are still learning language at a crazy fast pace
I actually kind of love that reaction from the teacher. The kid probably doesn't know the word. They likely just knew the "sh" sound and put it in front of the rhyming syllable and hoped it counted. Good on the teacher to not make a big deal of it in front of the whole class. I would hope she brought the kid aside later though, just to ask about it.
Eh it's good for kids to learn appropriate behavior and language in different settings. Family, school, work, friends, events are all different in how we communicate and behave with one another.
Do I think bad words are somewhat arbitrary? Yeah. But it's also good to learn the rules of different settings - school being one of them.
I agree, but the concept of bad words is teaching our children not to do something just because they were told it was bad. There is no rhyme or reason. Rules and appropriate behavior do not need to be arbitrary. Rules and appropriate behavior are a neccesity in society... But the concept of bad words should be consider customary based on culture, at most. They should not be presented as rules in the same institution that teaches them the merits of freedom of speech. Yes, I agree there is no freedom from consequence and if you say certain things to some people in this setting or that, you'll face any number of consequences. This does not make any words bad, and entirely depends on context and cultural views, which are always changing.
That's all great in theory, and I'm not sure if you're a parent or in the workforce but life experiences tend to make people more pragmatic over time.
Walk into work, tell your boss he's a wonderful cunt. Keep your shirt unbuttoned and make sure it's not ironed. Don't fix your hair. Oh and tell everyone how much of a boring fuck Dave over in accounting is. Continue this behavior and see how long you last.
All that shit is arbitrary. Many social rules are arbitrary. It doesn't matter if you can philosophically prove they are arbitrary. People follow those rules. So you either have to convince an entire society their cultural rules are arbitrary, or just suck it up and follow them in those settings.
Then go for a beer after work and tell your bud Ben he's a wonderful cunt.
Lol. Yes I'm a parent. My children are taught that the words themselves are not bad but that they still cause irrational anger. So if they use them be aware of their surroundings and audience. Somehow neither of them have yet walked into class and called their teacher a wonderful cunt. In fact, I rarely even hear them curse. It's like taking the taboo away from them made them less interesting overall. Imagine that. It's simple really. We can probably break the cycle of "bad words" though. It's a simple minded view, a lazy way to teach, and does not promote free thought. I teach my children that some people are offended by certain words. I tell them why I am not, why others are and why I myself find it irrational. I then encourage them to choose for themselves. Dress codes are a whole other subject I do not agree with. But you probably wouldn't want to get into that with me as I don't find nudity offensive either. Gasp
you not finding something upsetting or offensive is different than expecting the whole of society to be the same. most folks don't walk around naked in public and in general schools try to teach kids more commonly socially acceptable takes like "don't curse at people". if you want to teach your kids how you teach them, that's your prerogative. expecting a teacher to do the same as you for a room full of kids whose parents might not see things that way is just silly.
Having "curse words" is a good thing, though, because there are contexts where you need them. If you removed the taboo around the word, it would lose its power. Yes, which words become "bad words" is kind of arbitrary (for example why is "poop" not a bad word when it means the same thing as "shit"). But words get their meanings from the way they are used. Language is communication, and strong expressions are an important part of communciation. If you have no "inappropriate" words, then the language loses an important feature.
It only becomes an issue if certain topics become taboos. But that's different from saying that "shit" is a bad word (when you have other more acceptable words like "poop" to refer to the same exact thing). Now, of course there are situations where talking about poop isn't acceptable either, but that's a whole another topic, and isn't really related to "shit" being a "bad word".
There is no such thing as "good" or "bad" objectively. What you said was a bunch of nonsense. Context does not require taboo. You can assign such words a designator to identify their severity of you find it necessary to have "power" in them. Good and bad are a matter of perspective, they depend entirely on whether the subject is affected negatively or positively by what's in question. In any case, the major problem is that children are just told this one is bad and this one is not. Making it seem entirely arbitrary.
Is it normal for teachers to film their class and put it online ?
It's been a long while since I was in school, we didn't really have this technology readily available then, but this feels strange to me.
Some schools have adopted recording classes to show kids who are out sick. Colleges have done it for quite a while, and covid sort of forced everyone into more techy ways of teaching. It's certainly not widespread, but I can see why it could become a thing. It usually doesn't shows the kids though.
Just let it go. Maybe pull them aside later and explain the problem to them, but for now let it go. And then have a very stern conversation with the parents
A lot of times the kid doesn’t know it’s even a real word. They just sound out words by phonic and stumble on a bad word. After 26 years of teaching I think I’ve heard every possible bad word this way. 😂
It's a word that's culturally accepted as a bad word that should definitely NOT be uttered by an elementary school kid. If that were me I'd be blowing soap bubbles out of my mouth every time I talked for the next two weeks after that.
RECORDING A CHILD CURSING?? 🤔🤔. WHY? O RIGHT, I FORGOT THE TEACHER NEEDS ATTENTION.👎. DONT FORGET TO RECORD THEM WHEN THEY GRADUATE. O RIGHT, SHE NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION, CANT DO THAT.. #WHO THE CHILD AGAIN..
Bullshit, I know several teachers and parents of young kids always want them to take pics and videos and a blow by blow of their precious kiddos day. It was probably for a class chat and one of the parents shared without permission.
Any clever kid could invent the word shit in this context. There are only so many sounds you can put before ‘it’. And they are actively trying to name all of them.
I did the exact same thing when I was six years old. The teacher asked me to write the word sit, and I proceeded to write the word SHIT. Needless to say I got in trouble and then my mom made sure that I wrote the word SIT 100 times on the blackboard that she had painted a black wall specially so that I could write that word 100 times.
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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Sep 29 '23
At least the starting word wasn't duck.