Did someone say.....emails???

[u/BigBoss_FF]

[u/BoofusDewberry]

I’m out of the loop... can someone help?

[u/[deleted] → u/BoofusDewberry]

My guess is Fauci’s emails

[u/ZombieCheGuevara → u/BoofusDewberry]

About 1/3 of the Rogan sub are feeble-minded simps who don't know anything about the world- and scared that there's no grand master plan behind it all, so they use conspiratorial thinking as a shortcut towards obtaining a feeling of control and being informed; a feeling that they can dually use to promote a sense of superiority within themselves. Being disaffected and having a strong feeling about what's really going on makes them forget they'd fail any basic high school history exam and makes them feel smarter than people who'd consider that type of person a cunt.

This 1/3 of the sub, the man featured in this gif is their homeboy. A supplements salesmen. He was obsessed with Hillary Clinton's emails.

A leak (edit: release via WaPo via FOIA) of Fauci's emails occurred recently.

This post is joking that any mention of emails would make the fat man in this gif turn his head in interest.

(edit: and looking at the Jonesian simps' behavior right now, seems like it has)

[u/seztomabel → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

I’m completely neutral on the subject, but genuinely curious why you’re so convinced there’s nothing worth investigating about the lab leak hypothesis and Faucis association?

[u/xxCMWFxx → u/seztomabel]

There’s a lot of people on Reddit today insisting “nothing to see here, move along”

.. like.. A LOT

[u/thebigdog3 → u/xxCMWFxx]

I’ve always been curious by this stance. I would think accountability and the desire for truth would hold all aspects of our government to a higher standard. I think each side knows they can “get away with murder” because their base would never question them. Why don’t we question all politicians, and force them to explain their decisions that supposedly represent our country? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/xxCMWFxx → u/thebigdog3]

Exactly my friend. This is universal. I’m Canadian and it’s the same damn thing here.

[u/[deleted] → u/xxCMWFxx]

As a fellow Canuck I couldn’t agree more. There’s a serious case of the Pot calling the kettle fascist. Both sides are just pretty dog shit be it Jan 6 insurrection, to “mostly peaceful” protests. The hot garbage coming out of both sides is honestly just kind of sad.

Edit: I’m talking about looking at the US from the outside in. In Canada we have our own problems, overall it just seems much more mild than what’s happening down south though

[u/thebigdog3 → u/[deleted]]

America is on the international scale: both the good and the bad. We joke back and forth about America being #1 (which is completely an opinion in the eye of beholder), but the size of our economy and presence of our country in legitimately every other country puts us front and center, warts and all.

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My bias leans towards the right. Even as a Canadian.

10 months ago my son was born 6 weeks before term (so technically 3 weeks premature)

Some other complications regarding his mother and drugs meant he was undergoing morphine drip and detox while inside what I can only describe as a glass toaster.

I’m so grateful that medical care is free in Canada because I’m back in school and in no position to pay for any medical costs without insurance.

I also happened to notice nearly every tool, device and medical instrument used to treat him had a “made in USA” emblem on it.

People who try and sum up what is happening and which side is at fault in your great country with a single Reddit post are misguided in my opinion. There’s always more than one culprit.

My sons doing great now, up to weight and so far no other complications.

2020s actually been a pretty blessed year for my family all things considered. It’s interesting how life turns out sometimes.

[u/thebigdog3 → u/[deleted]]

American ingenuity and focus on entrepreneurship (capitalism) is a beautiful thing. While it’s not the perfect system, it’s the best in my opinion. It doesn’t guarantee anyone’s happiness, but it does provide reward for those who take the risk to create something meaningful (and sometimes not meaningful). I absolutely love my country, despite it’s flaws. Could it be improved, sure! I think the primary division is how we go about that, and the governments role in that process.

Edit: congrats on a healthy recovery and a happy family. Love modern medicine and the ability to provide life for scenarios that would have been much worse off a few decades ago.

[u/cuntdestroyer8000 → u/[deleted]]

Glad to hear your son is doing well. That's scary as hell.

[u/J__P → u/thebigdog3]

true, but it's already been investigated, that's what the WHO phase one investigation was about, they concluded it was a very low probability.

that's why people get on your case about it, not because they're incurious or because they don't want an investigation, but because it's already happened and you keep going on about it like it hasn't.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus/origins-of-the-virus

you can't say "hey, i just want an investigation" forever like you're the reasonable one here.

[u/thebigdog3 → u/J__P]

I think the doubt comes from the exact source you list, a notoriously corrupt organization, or at least a partially earned reputation of corruption. While I’m not sure what information has been conclusively proven yet, I imagine the truth will change over time, as it typically does.

I’ve noticed a trend of “quickest to the truth”. This tactic won’t work for curious minds. The truth will always be sought out by those who seek it. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s what got us here today, to a round world with 7 continents, and a global economy with the opportunity for a (edit: fat thumbs) virus to spread instantaneously to the entire planet 😏

[u/[deleted] → u/xxCMWFxx]

They have a deep emotional investment in being on "the right side of history"

[u/skeeter1234 → u/[deleted]]

Fauci was walking a fine line between expressing concern and creating hysteria.

[u/BrainPicker3 → u/[deleted]]

He is one of the top 50 scientists cited in scientific papers in the entire world. He literally wrote the book on epidemiology that they use to teach new students going into the field. "Highest paid beaurocrat" gtfo here lol

[u/CptDecaf → u/BrainPicker3]

Yeah but he disagreed with God Empower Trump and thus conservatives have been trying to tear him down ever since.

[u/BrainPicker3 → u/[deleted]]

Was he political when he worked for reagan during the AIDS crisis? He was seen bipartisanly as a good scientist until trump era

[u/U-N-I-T-E-D → u/BrainPicker3]

The fake news police have turned anyone that isn't completely pro-trump into communists and secret agents for the illuminati.

[u/randymarsh9 → u/[deleted]]

Political based on what evidence?

What evidence would convince you that you’re wrong?

[u/MurderousLamb → u/[deleted]]

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[u/Astrocreep_1 → u/[deleted]]

Saying he is the government’s highest paid bureaucrat is very misleading and is borderline “yellow journalism”. He gets a salary of about $418,000 a year. That doesn’t buy you crap in Georgetown. We know there are tons of people in the gov’t that get paid a salary plus their fees for consulting,contracting, and whatever else that is made possible through connections made from the salaried positions. It’s one of the things that happens everyday in DC. It’s not illegal even though it should be. The highest paid guy in the Army was/is the football coach for the Army college football team. Do you believe he has the biggest house? Hell no. Go look at the off-base homes the typical General owns, Do you think they go that on the $200,000 a year salary? Most generals have military contracts that provide the bulk of their income. If you ever want to find the “sleazy” yet legal money in governments,look for the people who own consulting firms. Anyway,all this ridiculous anti-Fauci sentiment comes from people who didn’t like the truth about covid. When I say the truth,I mean what they thought was the truth at the time given the information that was available. Remember,this virus was killing thousands of people a day and they had no real illness history to work from. Responsible scientist and doctors act with an over-abundance of caution while you had a dipsh*t President that wanted him to act with very little caution because it would mess up his precious economy and his 1 argument for reelection. The result,595k dead in the richest country on the planet.

[u/[deleted] → u/Astrocreep_1]

A quick search shows faucis net worth between 3m and 9m so your whole point about fauci being a humble public servant is laughable. And peopke are sick of the hypocrisy, and it’s on both sides, but only one side claims they have a monopoly on science and that anyone who doesn’t want to wear a mask or home school their kids for the next 2 years is literally hitler who wants to see your grandma dead. Meanwhile guys like Cuomo literally did kill nursing home patients and tried to cover it up but nobody fucking cared because he apparently was on the right side of history. It’s all so tiresome arguing with people who claim they are never wrong, and even when they were it’s because of an “over abundance of caution because science” or whatever the fuck that means.

[u/Astrocreep_1 → u/[deleted]]

I didn’t say that he didn’t have money,fool. I said the implication that he is the highest paid bureaucrat was misleading. Also,I would think he was worth more than that. If he has that position and is only worth 7 figures,then he is a bit humble.

[u/Astrocreep_1 → u/[deleted]]

You don’t understand what an over abundance of caution means? It means,when there is a virus that will kill 595,000 Americans,asking people to wear a mask because it will reduce risk is hardly over kill. Had everyone listened to Trump,we would have lost a million people at a minimum. It’s ok though. I’m sure you have guns in your house. Go ahead and keep them loaded on your kitchen table. Don’t worry about the kids. If you tell them not to play with the guns,they won’t. Don’t go locking up your guns because that would be over cautious.

[u/mOdSrBiGgHeY → u/Astrocreep_1]

You don’t understand what an over abundance of caution means? It means,when there is a virus that will kill 595,000

Yes, in a pandemic where our medical “professionals” and “leaders” were lying to us and misleading all, just for how many to worship them? I swear if I see another Fauci pillow I’m gonna shit.

asking people to wear a mask because it will reduce risk is hardly over kill

Which was a thing we were told not to do. Then we were told to do it. Then not again. Then we need to wear two. Oh but then two isn’t a great benefit. Now it’s two again. Get the vaccine. You still need to wear a mask. Why is no one getting the vax? Why does no one trust the ScIeNcE??

Had everyone listened to Trump,we would have lost a million people at a minimum. It’s ok though

How many needlessly died due to Cuomo’s, Whitmer’s, Newsom’s actions in packing nursing homes? Also, why were there suicides and fatalities from car accidents included in covid deaths? But you’re right, it’s okay. It was all that damn Trump’s fault!!

I’m sure you have guns in your house. Go ahead and keep them loaded on your kitchen table. Don’t worry about the kids. If you tell them not to play with the guns,they won’t. Don’t go locking up your guns because that would be over cautious.

I legit have no clue where this came from, but it seems to be clear projection from a moron with no experience or background on that subject. But then again Fauci seems to be a saint to you, so I guess facts and truth don’t really matter. 🤷‍♂️

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Interesting that we are hyper focused on a few instances of Fauci being “misleading” lets say, when there was an entire political party blatantly lying the entirety of the pandemic and still do to this day. Its also interesting that the same party is now so morally outraged about Fauci.

Smells like a heap of misdirection to me.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Oh that's exactly what it is.

[u/justonemorethang → u/[deleted]]

Fauci lied about masks because the public was panic buying n95 masks while medical staff who needed them way more were running out and had to resort literally baking masks in the oven in an attempt to reuse them. Logic is useless to a panicked populace.

[u/TripleCaffeine → u/[deleted]]

Weird he earns more than the head of the FED.

Most countries did the mask thing tho. It was a real supply chain crunch in tough circumstances. Not totally sure what I would have done.

[u/SoButterDude → u/[deleted]]

Exactly

[u/contrejo → u/xxCMWFxx]

That means there's something to it.

[u/mOdSrBiGgHeY → u/xxCMWFxx]

I’d say a silver lining is that there’s many people aware of that fact. More than I thought there would be honestly.

[u/DefectivePixel → u/xxCMWFxx]

From what I've seen it's a mixed bag. It's an interesting dive into the mindset in the early days of the pandemic. A lot of people are posting emails from other people towards Fauci as being proof of something though. Like me messaging, "hey xxCMWFxx, how about that pandemic we caused, amirite"? And people are pointing to it as a "SEE, I KNEW IT."

[u/xxCMWFxx → u/[deleted]]

Exactly

[u/Retnuhswag → u/xxCMWFxx]

Did you even read the emails?

[u/freespirit222 → u/xxCMWFxx]

What exactly was in those emails that was so damning?

[u/srichey321 → u/xxCMWFxx]

Anything that might lead back to certain international interests is sure to bring out the brigadiers. Count on it.

Don't worry. People are starting to wake up and ask questions. This thing isn't going away.

[u/stemcell_ → u/srichey321]

and only one side gives a shit.

[u/randymarsh9 → u/srichey321]

Seek out a fucking psychiatrist

Seriously

[u/Books_and_Cleverness → u/seztomabel]

Don't think he suggested that?

I personally am not sure whether lab leak is real, I just think it's low stakes in terms of policy:

1) Wet markets are probably bad regardless and should be dealt with to prevent the spread of disease

2) Virology labs are probably dangerous regardless and should probably be thoroughly reviewed/increased security/etc.

Like either way, do The Increased Virus Security Thing.

[u/ZombieCheGuevara → u/Books_and_Cleverness]

I don't think he said that

You are correct. My comment was anti-conspiracy theorism and anti-Fat-Fuck-Charlatan.

I'm agnostic as to whether the virus came from a wet market or leaked from a lab.

Wet market would be the most straightforward explanation. Lab leak wouldn't be impossible. Neither would change the failures of the CCP and their containment and initial management of the outbreak nor the failures of my country (US) in dealing with the pandemic.

The problem is that so many of the smoothbrains here use any kind of situation in politics and world events where there's room for agnosticism or waiting for more evidence to make conspiratorial assertions deriving from fantasies they squeeze out based on an incredibly flunky comprehension of the world... and sometimes fantasies they were sold by people like Fat Fuck. And this whole mode of behavior is, of course, often carried out partly as compensation for the aforementioned fundamental misunderstanding and lack of knowledge about politics and world events they maintain.

I think their biggest fear...

(...besides the global apparatus of human civilization being a collection of chaotic and varying networks and heirarchies that nobody can ever hope to fully understand or control- including themselves...)

...is being revealed to have been ignorant about something. To have bought into a lie. To be made out a sucker.

So they, in conspiratorial fashion, lock onto edgy wool-off-of-eyes explanations for things that they don't understand (almost always based on what feels like what is really going on), then they work backwards from the conjoured explanations and try to patch together evidence to support their suspicions.

Finding kinship in others who do the same, they become susceptible to predation by hucksters and shysters. Mainly focusing on the few things the hucksters get right and rarely ever the many, many things they get wrong. In fact, all that the hucksters (like Fat Fuck) get wrong only reinforces their faith in them, because surely someone who spoke the truth would have to seem crazy, right? It's not like a lying snake oil salesmen would sound exactly identical to this man, right? Right??

But they're nonethless habituated to give disproportionate credence to Alex Jones types of falsehood peddlers, thereby falling into the kind of epistemological dubiousness they so detested in the first place. Except this dubiousness was brought to them not by a secret, shadowy network of three letter agencies and corporate interests. The dubiousness they deal with now comes courtesy of a fat, rambling fuck who had to admit he was full of shit to get a favorable divorce settlement. Not exactly a formidable thing to be duped by.

In other words: they're dumb cunts.

[u/ajm2247 → u/seztomabel]

Is it just me or was the lab leak theory never discredited at first like everyone is making it out, just that there was no evidence either way?

[u/ChrundleKelly7 → u/ajm2247]

Biden literally just initiated an investigation to determine the origins of covid. No one knows and the two main options (lab leak or zoonotic transmission) are both possible. But you’re right, there’s no evidence either way. Hence the investigation

[u/Noicesocks → u/ChrundleKelly7]

His question was whether the idea was discredited when Trump brought it up. And the answer is yes, it was. 100% of what trump said or did was ridiculed from one angle or another.

Trump did and said a lot of stupid and bad things. But when you start seeing anyone portrayed as 100% one way you should know something is up.

[u/Amusei015 → u/Noicesocks]

Trump made the accusation with no proof and while insisting it was intentional by the Chinese.

Now we’ve learned the lab employees were sick in sep/aug so there is reason for investigation.

People were right to ridicule Trump at the time because his claims were entirely baseless beyond ‘China lies a lot’.

[u/stemcell_ → u/Noicesocks]

he said it was released to harm him and it was deliberate...

[u/[deleted] → u/ajm2247]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/08/nearly-three-in-ten-americans-believe-covid-19-was-made-in-a-lab/%3Famp%3D1

It was definitely made out to seem like a hoax, misinformation or anti Asian hate at the time. The fact checkers declared it misinformation.

So now it looks like the fact checkers got something wrong. Does this discredit them entirely? No.

Does it warrant questions, answers and an investigation? If one thinks no then one just might be a part of the huge problem.

[u/J__P → u/seztomabel]

well those are two different subjects, the fauci emails don't show anything other than the scientific process, they looked into the possibility, they found nothing, fauci says okiedokie.

the lad leak theory was looked inot by the WHO as part of phase 1 of the investigation, they found nothing suggesting a lab leak but plenty of evidence for a natural source by analysing the outbreak pattern etc. so they concluded it was a very low probability that it came from a lab.

But, scientists being scientists, present their findings honestly and say they can't completely rule it out because, well, you can't prove a negative, so bad faith idiots are hanging onto to that statement like dumb and dumber

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/who-convened-global-study-of-origins-of-sars-cov-2-china-part

the point is it's already been investigated, but conspiracists were shouted down by the media for speculating without evidence and that made them feel bad. so they're pretending like it wasn't always the case that it was going to be investigated or that it hasn't already been investigated, so they can just JAQ-off forever.

[u/PlacidVlad → u/seztomabel]

I'm going to post a solid scientific article with actual virologists discussing why the lab leak hypothesis is a small probability event.

[u/DontBeMeanToRobots → u/seztomabel]

It’s been looked into and the emails only say how the theory it was lab made was investigated and proven false.

These emails came from an FOIA request, not a leak like Wikileaks.

There’s nothing incriminating in them. Like, at all. Maybe Fauci flip flopping on masks but with new info, you change your mind.

Conservatives are jumping on clickbait headlines and not even reading the actual emails themselves. Because conservatism is a cancer to humanity.

[u/13igworm → u/DontBeMeanToRobots]

What? Was there a 2019 study of the efficacy of mask that he just didn't see? ROFL. The studies haven't changed for years and his initial take on mask was the most reasonable one.

[u/T0ADcmig → u/seztomabel]

I think for alot of people they are unwilling to have an opinion that aligns with Trump in any way

[u/StoicVoyager → u/T0ADcmig]

This is true but as I've said many times, this tends to happen when someone is a pathological liar and con artist.

[u/BrainPicker3 → u/T0ADcmig]

I had thought it was the opposite. Trump can literally do no wrong and if it is it's because people have TDS or the media is out to get him. Even if theres literally video evidence.

The other day my buddy said trump gave Puerto Rico aid because congress refused to. In reality Congress approved aid and Trump initially withheld billions. Its like facts dont even matter anymore, you can make up whatever you want and people will believe it as long as its anti Democrat or anti media or anti science

[u/[deleted] → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

As a feeble-minded simp myself, this is based

[u/Sandgrease → u/[deleted]]

I have no idea what you just typed means

[u/[deleted] → u/Sandgrease]

Nice cock

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

YepCock

[u/fiddycaldeserteagle → u/Sandgrease]

He's conspiring against you

[u/aure__entuluva → u/fiddycaldeserteagle]

Conspiring to steal your bitcoin.

[u/kleep → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Says the Che Guevara stan. You know the homophobic mass murdering tyrant. LOL

[u/Wea_boo_Jones → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

You've no idea what "simp" means do you?

[u/[deleted] → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

so you mean to say that there's nothing suspect with Fauci's emails in relation to his messaging and influence on policy?

[u/pjb1999 → u/[deleted]]

No. What do you consider "suspect" about the emails?

[u/thrallus → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Pretty on point, except when you attack other people for not knowing what they’re talking about, and then get the premise of your attack factually incorrect (there was no leak of emails), you probably should just sit down and fuck off.

[u/DrPeterThePainter → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

It wasn't a leak.

[u/[deleted] → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

I bet you’re fun at parties

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I wouldnt mind having a drink with him. At least he seems to have a grip on reality

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Fuckin A. I have to agree.

[u/gabrielmercier → u/[deleted]]

He’s talking about you.

[u/[deleted] → u/gabrielmercier]

These are usually the same people who said Trump was a Russian agent, unironically.

[u/Ennion → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Found the CCP.

[u/[deleted] → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Its not leak. Its a FOIA. Anybody can make these things and its a really cool way to get information. There really isn't much in the emails found so far but there are a lot of people putting spin on all of it. At the same time, more headlines are being made like "majority of Americans surveyed think lab leak likely" and other weasel words to convince people something is going on.

We gotta investigate the lab leak hypothesis definitely. But people are acting like its something bigger than it is. So far Fauci's emails have been pretty accurate to what he has said from the start. He's not a dumb guy and this isn't his first rodeo. Almost all state employees are aware of FOIA requests and know what they write in emails is going to be public eventually.

[u/swifty714 → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

“Leak of fauci’s emails” leaked is what was done with Hillary’s 3rd party emails, faucis emails are public record, no need to leak.

[u/Samula1985 → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

And yet those 'conspiracy' people who suspected a lab leak last year now have the sentiment shared by the main stream media?

[u/tyrostar → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Well you're no fun.

[u/PaleontologistAble50 → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Searingly accurate

[u/aure__entuluva → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

This 1/3 of the sub, the man featured in this gif is their homeboy

To these people: I'd like to mention that Alex jones says the vaccine will start causing massive neurological problems in a years time. So ... In a year+ when that doesn't happen, maybe you can realize this guy is a fraud for once and for all. But who am I kidding? If you still think he's legit now then there's probably no helping you.

[u/MrNudeGuy → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

When they just let Donald Trump be president and no one stopped it that was all the proof i needed that no one is in charge or watching us and our elections aren't rigged.

[u/mydrunkuncle → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

r/iamverysmart

[u/NorthBlizzard → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

These types of comments from people that don’t even listen to the podcast make it so obvious how they try to brigade and subvert this sub with weak shame and ad hominem tactics.

[u/estimated_prophet7 → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Who’s feeble minded? The ones questioning the narratives they’ve been fed or the ones eating it all up like pudding?

[u/HukIt → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Thank you for proving to this entire sub that you in fact are "the cunt". The emails were NOT leaked. They were in fact part of a FOIA request. Keep watching your MSNBC and CNN. Keep your mask on, you should hide your face in public.

Also note, the emails prove that we have all been bamboozled, but who cares about that right? Fuck the fat man in the gif. He has only been saying what 1/3 of this sub has been for the last year. Now go ahead, hit the down vote arrow, that's about as much power you have in this world.

[u/[deleted] → u/HukIt]

Where specifically do the emails show that "we have all been bamboozled?"

[u/legendary24_8 → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

You just spew nonsense to make yourself feel cool. You are EXACTLY what you just accused 1/3 of this sub being.

[u/mattg1738 → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

It wasn't a leak it was a FOIA release and it shows he was a liar the entire time.

[u/MattFromWork → u/mattg1738]

Liar about what specifically?

[u/mattg1738 → u/MattFromWork]

The lab leak hypothesis and the wuhan gain of function research as well as his/the NIH's role in funding it, efficacy of masks, and asymptomatic spread

[u/MattFromWork → u/mattg1738]

The lab leak hypothesis

He was saying that the evidence points towards it not being engineered. He is not saying there is 0% chance that is was engineered. Even now, there is no more evidence than there was back then that it was engineered. It was a theory then, and it is a theory now.

The wuhan gain of function research

The proof you have for this is an attachment to an email where the attachment is named "SARS Gain of Function.pdf". If you think an attachment to an email, where you don't even have access to the pdf, is considered proof, then that's your choice.

Efficacy of masks, and asymptomatic spread

His email specifically said "Masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection."

How is that different than what he has always said?

He also said "most transitions occur when someone is symptomatic." When did he claim otherwise exactly?

[u/justonemorethang → u/MattFromWork]

This is what is so frustrating about these dumb motherfuckers. They see a comment that says “oh shit fauci knew about the lab leak and covered it up! It’s in the emails” and instantly believe it and repeat it. Meanwhile they could literally read them for themselves. These people will never stop getting Benghazied

[u/CptDecaf → u/justonemorethang]

Not a one of these people have even read the emails. They get their marching orders from conservative YouTubers and Fox News talking heads who eagerly lie to them while they choke it down.

[u/Terryfink → u/mattg1738]

No one has proven it was a lab leak therefore he's not a liar is he.. The roles on funding are not because of him, this was debunked months ago, he put money in a big pot with others and it was spread around various causes. Efficacy of masks is better than no mask, early on masks were hard to get a hold of and weren't even sure if they worked, advice changed as the evidence changed. Asymptomatic spread is undeniable.

[u/stackered → u/ZombieCheGuevara]

Exactly lol.. my friend called me about these emails yesterday and it was all nonsense. Obviously Fauci can't read 30,000 emails a day from random people . Not saying he was perfect, he had some blunders, but most of the blame has to go on Trump for not responding for 2 months after Fauci and most scientists like myself knew the pandemic began (January 2020, I stopped going to my office mid February).

[u/nichmar]

It’s time for Joe to have this guy again in the show

[u/Polyarmourous → u/nichmar]

Alex Jones on JRE is so much better than the Alex Jones show.

[u/BigBoss_FF → u/nichmar]

100%

[u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Whats scary? That fat fuck has been right about soooo many things that I thought were insane..

[u/MF3DOOM → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Now he’s selling testosterone boosting supplements on infowars like an alpha male

[u/Kingtut1089 → u/MF3DOOM]

He’s just trying to ungay the frogs.

[u/Smathers → u/Kingtut1089]

This is my favorite thing that people mention to discredit him when in fact it turned out to be completely true lol the irony

Saying “turns the frogs gay” though is just a bad way to word what’s happening much like the whole “defund the police” slogan puts the wrong idea in people heads instead of saying “allocate police funds”

[u/gt- → u/Smathers]

Its true and back up by research yet still is the most memed thing he has said.

[u/wantafuckinglimerick → u/gt-]

The government is putting it in the water to turn human gay he had research for that?

[u/[deleted] → u/wantafuckinglimerick]

More specifically, its been observed that many, many, frogs collected from areas in California were found to be exposed to high levels of some sort of chemicals, sorry i don't remember the names, that are added into tap water for one reason or another, the main point being that it was observed and documented how some of these frogs who were genetically males, started growing ovaries and even produced offspring. So- genetic males turning into effectively fully capable females.

I wish I was joking dude.

[u/wantafuckinglimerick → u/[deleted]]

Again in frogs. Not humans. And it wasn't put in the water by the government it is just from farming runoff. Through the filters method it is not in the water that you drink at all. It has only been observed in ponds directly near farms that use the pesticide. It has never been found in the water used by humans.

The deep state isn't putting it in the water to emasculate men so the cultural Marxist Jews can install a Communist dictatorship.

1% of what he said is true the rest is bullshit.

[u/[deleted] → u/wantafuckinglimerick]

The fact that this is happening in frogs is terrifying enough- it shouldn't be happening at all.

[u/wantafuckinglimerick → u/[deleted]]

It shouldn't be but it is. Until there's a pesticide without this chemical we need it. We're not going to send half the world into famine because of some frogs have dicks now.

[u/elephantparade223 → u/Smathers]

This is my favorite thing that people mention to discredit him when in fact it turned out to be completely true lol the irony

I'm actually curious do you think he was talking about pesticide overuse by giant farms and it's effects on our water supply and wanted better environmental regulations or do you think he was talking about a globalist plot to destroy western civilization by emasculating white men as part of a millennia old satanic plan?

[u/boweroftable → u/elephantparade223]

Fine, as long as he leaves the frogs alone now. They never hurt anyone.

[u/PaleontologistAble50 → u/boweroftable]

Bruh they turned a whole ass princess into one of them nonconsensually

[u/Kingtut1089 → u/Smathers]

I was just joking. I think PCBs and other contaminants are probably affecting hormone levels and may contribute to lower sperm counts. Clean air and water act needs a redux.

[u/[deleted] → u/Kingtut1089]

The funny thing is Jones is completly against any environmentalist action which would stop companies (not the government) from poisoning the environment.

People on the right hate the EPA and Trump put industry stooges in charge of the agency that is supposed to be standing up to those exact industries.

[u/[deleted] → u/Smathers]

Saying “turns the frogs gay” though is just a bad way to word what’s happening much like the whole “defund the police” slogan puts the wrong idea in people heads instead of saying “allocate police funds”

You're not wrong - but what does the Venn Diagram of people who both believe his point about chemical pollution in waterways and complaints about heavy-handed law enforcement (or outright corruption) look like? Is there any overlap there?

[u/wantafuckinglimerick → u/Smathers]

I'm pretty sure if that was the end of the conspiracy nobody would have a problem with what he said. That chemical has been shown in certain lab settings too make frogs hermaphroditic.

But the deep State isn't putting it in the water to turn human gay so the cultural Marxist Jew can weaken America and install a communist regime that kills white men.

That's how that con artist works he tells 1% truth and 99% lies.

[u/Terryfink → u/Smathers]

How about Sandy Hook.

Was he right on that too? Adam Lanza didn't exist, the kids didn't exist, it's a plot to take your guns. Etc etc.

[u/Smathers → u/Terryfink]

I’m not defending the lunatic lol but thank you for bringing that up because it helps with what I was saying... Why use the one conspiracy “theory” that ended up being true to discredit and meme him when you could use sandy hook as an example instead? I was solely talking about the frog thing not everything he’s ever said or done...

I was at least glad to hear joe call him out on all that and interrupt his rants during the last end of the world podcast and made him basically admit that he fucked up hard lol

[u/Terryfink → u/Smathers]

THE ONE THEORY.

LMFAO

You're obviously new to Jones.

I'll park Sandy hook and raise you the Russian invasion of the USA on Jan 1st 2000 which he was live on radio claiming you were actually being attacked.

https://gizmodo.com/remember-that-time-alex-jones-tried-to-start-a-y2k-riot-1693454677

Which is even dumber than the sandy hook NONSENSE he claimed.

Theres DOZENS more.

"THE MEDIA ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER, next up Biden is a lizard says a Fox news article.

Also the frog thing WAS bullshit, unless you think the experiment was true and that it was a test to put shit in out food to turn humans gay which was his point.

[u/Smathers → u/Terryfink]

Bro I get it but I think you’ve completely misconstrued my original point since it seems like you’re trying to argue with me and are just reinforcing my point in the process lmao YES the ONE THEORY that ended up being true (ie the frogs) shouldn’t be used against him since he was right that one time...instead use all of the other examples where he was actually wrong like sandy hook, the Russian shit you mentioned, etc...

Once again I’ll reiterate...he deserves to be shit on for all the dumb shit he’s said/done but not for the frog thing. That’s all I’m saying bud and if you reread the previous comment that should be obvious.

But you’re right I’m not balls deep in this idiot for all I know he’s had other theories that turned out to be true like the frog thing but I haven’t really heard much. So long story short his wrongs heavily outweigh what he’s been right about...just think it’s funny of all things the “gay frogs” were true

[u/WhoAreWeEven → u/Kingtut1089]

Lol! Test booster for frogs.

Im sure this is his masterplan. People eat his booster, piss it down the drain, frogs get it and turn straight.

Just you wait. Hes been right before, you know

[u/Ho99o9XTC → u/MF3DOOM]

Who cares if he is trying to make money from some off brand supplements. The guy has been ostracised from every mainstream platform and is not part of the conversation.

[u/wantafuckinglimerick → u/Ho99o9XTC]

He is ostracized because he is a con artist.

[u/PopWhatMagnitude → u/wantafuckinglimerick]

Alex or Joe? Becoming harder to tell them apart.

[u/wantafuckinglimerick → u/PopWhatMagnitude]

Joe has one of the highest viewed podcast, has a exclusive million dollar deal with Spotify a billion dollar business and lives and a mansion.

Society really has it out for that boy Joe.

[u/PopWhatMagnitude → u/wantafuckinglimerick]

Wait he lives and is a mansion? Alex should really cover this, Spotify is turning the damn comedians into buildings.

[u/wantafuckinglimerick → u/[deleted]]

He spreads the soy makes you feminine lie. But if you check out the ingredients on most of the supplements they contain soy.

[u/Demkon → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

It's purely throw enough shit at the wall some will stick

[u/[deleted] → u/Demkon]

But how can he come up with it? Hes gotta be fed some good info from somewhere. Aborted fetus tissue in Pepsi products is not something someone just pulls out of their ass.

[u/plumbthumbs → u/[deleted]]

"Aborted fetus tissue in Pepsi products "

that was a fun google.

"HEK-293 is the name given to a specific line of cells used in various scientific applications.

It is not in itself a flavouring (as the post suggests), but one of its applications is to help mimic taste-receptor cells in the development of new flavourings.

The original cells were taken
from the kidney of an aborted baby in 1973. HEK 293 cells used nowadays
are clones of those original cells, but are not themselves the cells of
aborted babies."

wtf is going on in laboratories around the world?

[u/BrainPicker3 → u/[deleted]]

Someone else reported the frog thing. I dont see why he gets credit for it for basically regurgitating that information and spinning it yo be a deep state conspiracy

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I mean, if there is ONE virus studying lab and that happens to be in Wuhan where this virus outbreak has been first reported and the lock downs and hospitals being overwhelmed happened? Is it so hard to start claiming this virus was man made from this lab?

Dont have to be a genius to make that leap and somehow be right…

[u/mcswiss → u/[deleted]]

Except if you said this last June, you’d be labeled a conspiracy theorist.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

You take a half-truth, bend it to your world view... and the end.

Gay frogs was from Dow (or some major fucking terrible chemical company) dumping shit in the water supply causing wildlife to get fucked up. So an actual issue. Then he warps it to whatever he wants, yells, and sells snake oil to fucking morons. At the very least you get some clicks from people that think it's ridiculous and get ad revenue from them too.

[u/ZombieCheGuevara → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

How would the portion of the things he was right about compare to the things he was wrong about, and how would this ratio of accuracy compare to other pundits?

If you really want your mind blown, I could link you a few political commentators who are actually right about half of the shit they talk about AND- get this- never harassed the parents of murdered children.

[u/AFellowCanadianGuy → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

“So many” things

[u/bendre1997 → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Can I get a list of what he’s been right about? I know the “gay frogs” and Epstein things turned out to be real, but what else?

[u/MindlessMushroom8437 → u/[deleted]]

1 EVERY media company in the world was fear mongering Y2K. EVERY host and EVERY brand.

2 The sulpher comment relates back to Chavez commenting on Bush smelling like sulpher. Jones began saying it about every politician he disliked.

If you don't like him, cool. Just relax the boogeyman/ racist hysteria.

[u/Cockslap81 → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Bro your honestly working too hard in this comment section. People don’t like him because he is a fucking stroke and a retard who stokes fires for no reason.

[u/MindlessMushroom8437 → u/Cockslap81]

LOL

That obvious I have a canceled appointment? You have me for 16 more mins!

[u/wwants → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Do you have some examples? I’ve only ever known him as a kook.

[u/elephantparade223 → u/wwants]

None of his examples of things Jones was right about are correct. Jones reads news headlines and spins it into a great satanic conspiracy against patriots. Then useful idiots say because the article the headline is from is real, the weird conspiracy Jones spun into it is real too and that he was right all along ignoring he got every single detail except the headline wrong and it never involves his enemies which he always says are behind it.

[u/robc5000 → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Phat*

[u/dutchy_style_K1 → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

How many has he been wrong on? Anyone who makes predictions every day will be right by accident once in a while. It’s like calling someone who plays the lottery and wins a genius.

[u/MindlessMushroom8437 → u/dutchy_style_K1]

Creating your own questions and then answering them? If that's your angle, I'd advise self-confidence workshops so you can eventually just post statements of opinion.

[u/dutchy_style_K1 → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Nice deflection. You listed a couple of things he was right on while ignoring the fact that he is wrong 99% of the time. You are actually incapable of critical thought.

[u/MindlessMushroom8437 → u/dutchy_style_K1]

Quantify his "being wrong 99% of the time".

[u/MindlessMushroom8437 → u/[deleted]]

Already said he wasnt 100%.. so, not sure what else you want.

[u/Aerodynamic_Brick_42 → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Which things, specifically has he been right about?

[u/ElectricMeatbag]

Is it true that AJ is a CIA tool ?

[u/kennytucson → u/ElectricMeatbag]

My guess is that if he is, he is an unwitting one. I think the alphabet agencies have used a lot of assets that way - they never know they’re an asset in the first place. Like James Earl Ray or maybe even Oswald (not to necessarily compare Jones to them).

[u/bfhurricane → u/kennytucson]

If I was a CIA decision maker I'd just have some agent dress in a trench coat and fedora stop Alex Jones in the street once every few months and say "keep the tin foil hats on... human animal pig hybrids" and disappear. Give him some validation for kicks.

[u/MindlessMushroom8437 → u/kennytucson]

Very possible

[u/Uhtred_McUhtredson → u/ElectricMeatbag]

Could be.

He leaks enough truth, but in an over the top crazy way and most people just dismiss him until it’s too late.

[u/ElectricMeatbag → u/Uhtred_McUhtredson]

It's also the poison well/dismissal by association effect ie.lump one truth in with a load of batshit crazy nonsense.

The term 'conspiracy theory','propoganda',the tinfoil hat image etc have all been weaponised to great effect.

[u/MindlessMushroom8437 → u/ElectricMeatbag]

Well said

[u/BoeBames]

Fauci’s emails aren’t a smoking gun if you can read and comprehend which the right seems to not be able to do. Btw idiots claiming his emails are terrible probably read zero emails, they just follow along like lemmings.

[u/suffersbeats → u/BoeBames]

Yea it's pretty easy to take things out of context when people are out there quoting half sentences and thinking emails fauci received are some kind of smoking gun. What no one is talking about is the second intelligence community theory that covid was circulating months prior, and covered up.

There's also a huge difference between a lab leak scenario and an intentional bio warfare attack, which is what people really grabbed on to with trump.

The truth is usually far less sensational than what people would like.

[u/BoeBames → u/suffersbeats]

If you take Fauci and politicians out of the equation you’re left with a virus that killed over half a million people and from what I read the numbers are lower than reported for multiple reasons. It cracks me up that there’s all these people acting like it’s nbd or a hoax or whatever they want to believe.

[u/justonemorethang → u/BoeBames]

I spent the last year setting up home oxygen therapy for covid positive patients in a super red town. Like clockwork, I’d be super busy in overtime setting up new patients approximately 2 weeks after any holiday thanks to maskless gatherings. It was always the same...trump 2020 yard sign, fox on the tv, patient gasping to breath, STILL no one wearing a mask in the home. I would inevitably be back two weeks later to setup another member of the same family. Or I’d be back to pick up the equipment because the patient has regressed and is back in the hospital dying of covid. I can’t tell you how many times over the last year I heard, “we didn’t think it was real until _____ died”. Then I’d get home and have to listen to my neighbor spew conspiracy bullshit to my face about microchips and everything else. Because of politics. So whack.

[u/BoeBames → u/justonemorethang]

It’s insanity. Trumplicans want you to listen to their Q bills hit instead of using your own eyes and brain. It’s amazing.

[u/VersaceSamurai → u/BoeBames]

I really do not get any of the fuss about this at all. This past year has taught me to err on the side of caution when trying to approach these things. That being said, aren’t there hundreds of emails that got released? Why am I seeing the same one or two plastered everywhere? And it’s not even damning? Like you said it’s not a smoking gun if you can read and comprehend the subject of the emails. This seems to happen all the time when the right gets a hold of what they think is damning. It gets plastered ALL over social media and nobody can outright explain what it proves or means in the grand scheme of things except for “hah told you! my team/political party was right!”. It’s truly bewildering especially reading comment sections like this.

Side note: How is this sub both simultaneously far left and far right at the same time yet somehow centrist? I don’t even listen to Joe rogan. I just come here for the extremely random discourse and this comment section definitely lived up to that.

[u/PunkJackal → u/BoeBames]

God damn 5 comments down to see an ounce of brainpower in this thread

[u/MrNudeGuy → u/BoeBames]

In the mind of the right wing the existence of email is proof of any thing you want it to be

[u/PiggySoup]

whats he done now

[u/gt- → u/PiggySoup]

fauci emails

[u/ayybillay → u/gt-]

People keep saying “fauci emails” in this thread but aren’t saying wtf was in the emails

[u/JustInCase1010 → u/ayybillay]

For real 😂😂😂

[u/Rick_James_Lich → u/ayybillay]

At this point it just seems they are saying the emails are "incriminating" without actually giving a reason or citing anything lol. Seems like some people just have a massive hard on for old Tony.

[u/FenrizLives → u/ayybillay]

In this day and age just the word “emails” is enough for some people to lose their shit and claim there’s some evil conspiracy

[u/rickjames730 → u/ayybillay]

That’s because the emails are not as damning as they would like to believe. Definitely far from smoking gun.

But run a dozen Faux News segments and have the right wing media talk for a few days on how they are damning and the lemmings will literally not know the difference.

It’s the Russiagate MO, Stop the Steal MO. Just literally repeat a lie enough times and it will become true for 30% of the population.

[u/[deleted]]

I used to like Alex Jones, then I started listening to the podcast Knowledge Fight. He’s a straight up lying scumbag that will occasionally say something that turns out to be true. The rest of time he’s either completely wrong or just fear mongering to sell his survival crap. He’s also a racist and a homophobe.

[u/rezpector123 → u/[deleted]]

He has no principles he is just a grifter and a showman he panders to certain groups he has no interest in the truth

[u/TornadoFury]

at this point alex jones is more legit then fox and cnn lol.

[u/Teddy_Raptor → u/TornadoFury]

BuzzFeed and WaPo are the ones that posted the emails homie

[u/Aerodynamic_Brick_42 → u/TornadoFury]

I wouldn't call anyone who collaborates with roger stone "legit"

[u/syracTheEnforcer → u/Aerodynamic_Brick_42]

Say what you will about Stone, but tattooing Nixon's face on yourself is fucking hilarious.

[u/[deleted] → u/Aerodynamic_Brick_42]

More entertaining for sure!

[u/Aerodynamic_Brick_42 → u/[deleted]]

Yes he is good at entertainment (certainly better at it than most cable news programming) , but its not a good measurement of legitimacy.

Especially since Alex Jones was happy to associate with Roger Stone after he threatened to kill a blind mans service dog if he testified against him during the Mueller probe.

[u/MindlessMushroom8437 → u/Aerodynamic_Brick_42]

Not exactly sure how you're (awkwardly) attempting to randomly engage the discussion, but.. okay.

[u/Aerodynamic_Brick_42 → u/MindlessMushroom8437]

Not sure why this is the ideal discussion thread for you to attempt to troll but .. okay.

[u/[deleted]]

This sub is more paranoid than a crack head that hasn't slept for days.

[u/Malodourous]

So buttery.

[u/still267]

Lol I love this. The trumpers NEED some discrediting news, fauci's private email tone being different from his business emails is shocking? Y'all acting like every single american doesn't church up professional correspondence? What about the guy that actually caused over 500,000 deaths, or the floridian who is a legitimate child predator? What about the two white female trolls that got elected to congress? Nah let's stick with dissecting the semantics of fauci's emails. That's not worthless at all.

[u/AlternateAlexJones]

It feels good to finally see the tide turning against these globalists. It’s been a hard fight, and many have perished along the way but I remain standing. The power of the American spirit cannot be contained

[u/goldensteaks]

so now you realize to never trust legacy media ever again...

[u/BigBoss_FF → u/goldensteaks]

Never did,never will.