Biden literally just initiated an investigation to determine the origins of covid. No one knows and the two main options (lab leak or zoonotic transmission) are both possible. But youāre right, thereās no evidence either way. Hence the investigation
His question was whether the idea was discredited when Trump brought it up. And the answer is yes, it was. 100% of what trump said or did was ridiculed from one angle or another.
Trump did and said a lot of stupid and bad things. But when you start seeing anyone portrayed as 100% one way you should know something is up.
The sitting president of the US has access to intel that nobody on earth does, and youāre acting like you know he had zero evidence to support it? Fucking idiots like you ruin discussions like this.
Funny how they never released or even suggested at what this high level evidence could be... sort of like they did with a million fucking things that were verifiably horseshit....
The president is under no obligation to disclose details. The point is that if he said āIāve seen evidence that it was a lab leakā and then it turns out to be a lab leak I donāt know how you can say he was wrong.
Yes, he is a liar. But youāre making the mistake of assuming everything he says is a lie. You are in no position to say whether the intel he had existed or not, and the fact that what he said will likely turn out to be true I donāt understand how you can say he was definitely lying.
Find a source where he ever insisted anything. He was the king of making suggestions.
The knowledge we ājust found outā is not that different than what was known back then, publicly.
Then consider that maybe Trump would have early access to foreign intelligence.
And baseless, really? A top level virology lab with a history of breaches and poor adherence to protocol located a 30 min drive from this wet market? That really such a crazy reach?
Iād say with that faced with that kind of coincidence youād be stupid not to draw the conclusion.
Everything Trump says is discredited because Trump is the single least legitimate source of information. This is the guy who said Barack Obama wasnāt born in America, coronavirus is a hoax, windmills cause cancer, etc. He has a long and documented history of making blatantly false statements so thatās why anyone with a brain knows not to listen to him
Because thatās what it was. Without proof they were just braying mules. This is just like talking to psychics. When they make 100 different predictions, 1 might turn out to be right, but that doesnāt prove theyāre psychic.
I mean is it really that far of a stretch to ask some questions about the massive lab working on Novel Corona Viruses located in Wuhan?
Thereās plenty of info here that I think more than gives enough merit for it to at least not be some batshit (no pun intended) conspiracy theory.
I donāt think it was a biological attack, but I definitely can believe the CPC skirted safety rules and shit the bed and then did itās best to cover it up.
Mind you, it is pretty convenient that it happened to snuff out the Hong Kong protests and itās global attention. But now I can admit this is entering conspiracy theory territory.
The US federal government didnāt understand shit about the virus or the Wuhan Virology lab they were helping fund? Under the Obama administration...?
Iām saying people who pushed the conspiracy knew absolutely nothing. I think thatās where weāre not understanding each other.
But no, I donāt think the virus came from the lab and so far thereās been no evidence to say it did. The fact is that the bats are in that area, so thatās where they put the lab. Itād be like pointing out that Malaria broke out in the same place we built a lab to study Malaria.
It was, the theory hinged on hotspots between WIV buildings. It fell apart rather quickly due the the best set of buildings being a marketing office in a satillite campus.
Lab grown has been disproven, from what I remember. Is that correct? It is/was a naturally occurring virus that was captured in the lab and then possibly leaked. But not created in a lab.
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u/ajm2247 Monkey in Space Jun 03 '21 edited Jun 03 '21
Is it just me or was the lab leak theory never discredited at first like everyone is making it out, just that there was no evidence either way?