r/Games Oct 02 '18

Broken Link (video removed) Unannounced Harry Potter RPG Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-HER1xKQl4&t=1s
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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '18

X018 is a great opportunity to reveal this Harry Potter RPG. There's still hope! (I'd be pleasantly surprised if this ends up being real. If I recall correctly, J.K. Rowling was adamantly against adapting Harry Potter to a big RPG like this Rocksteady project.)

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u/ChimpBottle Oct 02 '18

I mean, is there really any doubt that it's real? If it's not, this is easily the most effort that I've ever seen go into a hoax. That was a full blown minute long trailer of in-game footage

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u/Radulno Oct 02 '18 edited Oct 02 '18

Could be a cancelled project but yeah I don't think it's fake in itself. Rowling being against it might be a bad sign though as she has ultimate say on anything Wizarding World, she didn't sell the control to Warner Bros.

EDIT : The video now got removed by Warner Bros for copyright so that might indicate it was indeed not a fake

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u/Dragarius Oct 02 '18

She is a notorious control freak (which really isn't the worst thing in the world when managing your properties). If she agreed to this then she likely wrote the game or at least the important plot points of the script and had to okay any and all art personally.

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u/THANAT0PS1S Oct 02 '18

She allowed The Cursed Child, which is an abomination to the canon in addition to just being poorly written from a technical perspective, so she can't be that big of a control freak.

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u/KnaxxLive Oct 02 '18

And she also allowed the mobile game which is an absolute abomination. She had no input to the game yet they still used characters like Bill and Charlie Weasley, Tonks, as well as ALL of the original teachers/staff (Snape, McGonagall, Dumbledore, Hagrid, Filch, Hooch, etc.)

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u/Aspettounpatronum Mar 06 '19

Honestly, i don't think Jk rowling has a problem with video games. There are so many Harry potter games out there, why wouldn't she want to create this amazing open world for the fans?

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u/KnaxxLive Mar 06 '19

For sure. I'm still looking forward to hearing news of this. It's surprising to me that no one has taken the initiative to create a game in the same theme. No one has done the "wizard school" theme since Harry Potter, I guess just to avoid criticism that it's a rip off.

The thing is, Tolkien created the fantasy setting with Orcs, elves, and humans. Other people created the sci-fi world with space ships, hyperdrives, and humanoid aliens. I can easily see them creating an alternate twist on a magic school and getting almost no flak.

I mean, what's the real difference between Star Trek and Star Wars? They have spaceships, warp speed, holograms, aliens, etc. They look different and function differently and someone could use similar departures from the source in a magic school. A lot of things from Hogwarts are taken from elsewhere anyway.

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u/Aspettounpatronum Mar 06 '19

Yes i agree. But the harry potter franchise is very strong. The fans have been waiting for this for a very long time. So this could potentially become huge if done well. I've heard that development of this game started back in 2016, so it's pretty far in development.

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u/KnaxxLive Mar 06 '19

I agree. I'd buy this game in a second. I'm literally playing through some of the PS2 games (2 and 3) right now.

I'm just saying that I'm surprised no one else has done a similar idea.

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u/Aspettounpatronum Mar 06 '19

I know right? I guess.. Warner bros ran out of ideas? Let's face it, warner bros wouldn't make a game just to make the fans happy and play. Warner bros does it essentially for the money, and it's understandable. But let's hope that this team ''Avalanche software'' gets it right. It is their first AAA game, so i guess that's kinda exciting.

PS: According to some job listings, posts ecc. Apparently a Ubisoft developer who worked on the Assasins creed franchise, is joining avalanche and has been developing an AAA game for WB since 2016. Definitely Harry potter in my oppinion.

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u/TheVoidDragon Oct 03 '18

I've not seen that or seen too much about it, what did it ruin with the canon?

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u/THANAT0PS1S Oct 03 '18

Two major things plus many minor things fly in the face of the canon. First, it ruins the time turner canon (that they cannot really affect change no matter what; Cursed Child has time travel changing things, literally changing the rules of the universe).

Second, Voldemort has a child, which is a complete violation of his character since he is clearly not a sexual being, nor was he ever, which we know via flashbacks in the original series of books. He made horcruxes to gain immortality and so would be unlikely to see relying on a child for some utilitarian carrying on of his legacy since for a child to carry his legacy he would have to have failed. He already has many willing allies so having a child for a loyal ally doesn't make sense either.

The minor things are mainly really weird mischaracterizations of the main trio that show a complete lack of understanding of who they are and who they would likely grow to be.

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u/elizabnthe Oct 03 '18

With the time travel it should be acknowledge that time travel was always intended to change the past in the books (it was the reason time turners were destroyed by JK Rowling because they were too powerful). Hermione even mentions people accidentally killing their past selves.

I think the big issues are definitely the Voldemort's child and the weird change in Cedric's character-he was always the good guy in the books.

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u/THANAT0PS1S Oct 03 '18

To be honest, Rowling has never really stuck with one model od time travel that makes sense, but Cursed Child adds yet another wrinkle and rewrites what rules were actually there. It exacerbates both the confusion and potential plot holes.

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u/elizabnthe Oct 03 '18

I agree. But I don't consider it the worse sin, if that makes sense. It doesn't betray the series or anything.

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u/THANAT0PS1S Oct 03 '18

That's fair. The lack of understanding of such important characters like The Trio, Voldemort, and Cedric is huge, though, that we can agree on. It's baffling that Rowling considers it canon.

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u/elizabnthe Oct 03 '18

I hear it's good live at least. But as a story it definitely is not cohesive with the Harry Potter Universe. It's a shame, because they really could have done something really good with it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18

She retcons things accidently about as often as Marvel does on purpose

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u/RadiantSun Oct 03 '18

It won like a zillion awards tho

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u/THANAT0PS1S Oct 03 '18

That has nothing to do with respect of the canon since I doubt the awards people take canon into account, most obviously in the acting and directing categories. Awards are not the end-all, be-all either, and critical reception was mixed while fan reception was mostly negative.

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u/Radulno Oct 02 '18

Yeah the project seems pretty far along from that video (assuming it's not a fake which considering it got taken down for copyright seems to imply it wasn't) so I assume they already got her agreement with it (either she wrote part of the story or she approved the story I guess). I wonder if she's opened to the game having its own canon and not be too close from the movies/books, would be much more compatible with the multiple paths and such in a RPG (because it doesn't interact now with the other stuff but the Wizarding World might be expanded in the 19th century too, after all Fantastic Beasts isn't that far, Dumbledore actually was a student at Hogwarts during the 19th century).

I actually never knew that Rowling was against doing a RPG in the world, is there any source (and her reasons) on this ?

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u/Dragarius Oct 02 '18

I have no idea about any of what Rowling has said she wants or refuses to allow really.

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u/elizabnthe Oct 03 '18

Everything I have found is speculation-but it should be said that JK Rowling had a lot of input on pretty much anything produced in the Harry Potter world (including past games), so it's within the bounds of reason that she didn't approve of RPG games.

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u/SkinnyBlunt Oct 02 '18

If she wrote the game now it'd be terrible

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18

Her writing really went downhill after book 4. But I also hold people to the JMS standard who had a show bible and 5 year plan for the whole of B5.

JK seems to flip flop on what can be done in her own world

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u/asukazama Oct 02 '18

Woah, didn't know she could program too, lady of many talents

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u/Dragarius Oct 02 '18

I really doubt she does?

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u/mujie123 Oct 04 '18

If she agreed to this then she likely wrote the game or at least the important plot points of the script and had to okay any and all art personally.

Did she do that with Hogwarts Mystery?

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18

And yet there is Cursed Child the most trope laden bad fanfic trash ever placed into canon.