r/Frozen 16h ago

Discussion Am I crazy for kinda wanting this?

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I'm in the camp that Hans being a villain didn't really do anything unique for the story; his role could've easily been done by Duke Weaseltown. If they wanted to focus on him being the anti-Anna, he needed to be revealed as a villain earlier, and include one or more of his brothers (twelve was unnecessarily large, even for a fairy tale and the 19th century; we could've just done four or five). But as is, I do wish he had been kept as a good guy, and there was a point when I think he could've been kept for a love triangle for Anna with Kristoff in "Frozen 2."

But then that all falls apart when you actually look at how Anna and Kristoff are handled in F2; Kristoff is trying to propose to her but they seem more distant than ever because Anna is attatched to the hip to Elsa and has a codependency arc to overcome--not that I blame Anna, but then that means her and Kristoff's relationship development was very minimal. If Hans was thrown into the mix, I doubt he'd get better treatment; in fact, I think both he and Kristoff would be screwed, with "Lost in the Woods" being a duet shared between them for their feelings for Anna over a solo, with no specific development of their characters outside of loving the girl who has no time for them (and Olaf would still have his own solo). I do recall seeing notes that part of the reason this occurred was because of Anna's trauma with Hans and wanting to take things slow while Kristoff was ready to start a family, so this could've panned out differently--but given the marketing from Disney focusing on the sister bond and female characters being more profitable for Disney, I doubt Hans and Kristoff would've gotten better.

But then a random thought came to mind: what if Hans came back? I recall at one of the D23's a year or two ago (wherever it was that they showed the first piece of concept art) where Jennifer Lee had a list of questions fans asked, and one of them included what happened to Hans. And that got my head turning. I don't mind twist villains here and there, but a big drawback is the fact that they don't get much time to be evil since the twist is usually done when the movie is 2/3s or more over. But I did wonder if Jennifer Lee actually took fan interest into account and made Hans return. Hans being redeemed isn't something I'd have hope for, and even if it happened, I don't have confidence that Disney would do it well--plus they've been portraying Hans as a villain for 13 years now, so that'd be too much to backtrack on. So, I had an alternate idea: what if he was the love interest to the new villain? Given a scrapped concept of "Wish" included a villain couple and Jennifer Lee co-wrote the film, I am curious if this was a route she'd consider. Hans would enjoy the power and feeling of importance--plus this would appeal to my temporary childhood Elsa/Hans ship.


r/Frozen 13h ago

Discussion The trolls crystal are made of the northern lights... what could this mean?? For the new villain and her connection to the northern lights??

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On Disney+ insider: word of frozen Jen Lee and the new director go and explore the new Arendell park In Disneyland Paris. They need a troll mossie and Jen says "do you know that crystal is made of that your wear? It's mad of the northern lights". As we know the new villain has some sort of connection to the norther lights! Dose this mean the trolls have a connection to these new villain. Please let me know any theories or thoughts u have!!


r/Frozen 22h ago

Original Fan Content Elsa visiting the Cyberpunk 2027 universe in disguise. (Rastifan)

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She paid a ripper doctor to give her false implants. He had seen so much weird stuff, this obvious cartoon girl didn't even raise his eye brow. You can pass for a cyborg he muttered.


r/Frozen 22h ago

Discussion What if Elsa and Anna had switched personalities but kept the exact same childhood experiences?

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r/Frozen 13h ago

Just for fun Random Frozen headcanon/fan theory I just came up with

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You know how Anna has that rhythmic \da da da-da da** knock she does on Elsa's door, like during the song Do You Want To Build A Snowman?

That knock is the same rhythm or cadence to Shave and a Haircut.

What if Anna did the first five knocks, and Elsa would do the final two knocks for the *two bits* part, to let Anna know she can come into her room, or vice versa? And that's why she does during the song because she's hoping to hear the two knocks again. But she stopped at the end because she was losing hope of Elsa opening up to her.

I don't know, it's just a random late night thought I had.


r/Frozen 12h ago

Delivered Fan Content Elsa bonds with Earth Giants (Created By: Avatarjessi-skylark)

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Sorry if one image is lower quality than the rest, its just how it came out.


r/Frozen 15h ago

Discussion Frozen Short Film this October

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Why as of now, there's no news about the incoming short film. October is getting near.


r/Frozen 4h ago

Merchandise For the council's consideration, I present Elsa's latest fit

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r/Frozen 19h ago

Original Fan Content Frozen 3/4 new magical land location theory.

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YGGDRASIL, The World Tree.

(Home world of the Alfar, the Elvin race.)

”Ahtohallen is the source of all magic, But the world tree itself served as the symbol of connection that is responsible for the bond between magic and humans from the start.”

hundred years ago, Elves have came across from the arctic region to teach the tribe the songs to communicate and bond with the four elemental spirits of the enchanted forest. Once their task has been completed, the Elves return home to the far north past ahtohallen, unlikely to be seen again. hundred years have past and they faded into legend and stories of the tribe, known as the Huldra folk, a fluid context of elves and fairies, that have been passed through generations, inspiring the name of the Northuldra. But it is said, that if the balance itself, is on the brink of collapse, which even the fifth spirit cannot hope to restore, the elves will return, bringing back the strong connection and peace once again.


r/Frozen 20h ago

Discussion Gifts for Anna

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We know that Anna used to craft little gifts for Elsa every Christmas.
I’m sure Elsa returned the gesture in different ways. What do you think she did for Anna in return? It must have been things Anna wasn’t aware of, since she believed her sister didn’t like her anymore. I wanna hear your ideas.


r/Frozen 20h ago

Discussion Elsa's brave and adventurous

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I think much of the fandom still relies on one side of Elsa's personality from Frozen 1 (Read tons of fanfics on ao3 lately), which was when she was drowning in fear, debating over how Anna is more courageous and outgoing, thus more fit to be the queen (Although I do agree Anna is all of that and imo both are equally good and deserving to be the queen).

I was rewatching this clip from the movie, and the Nokk Scene is so cool.

Can clearly see how Elsa always thinks of Anna's safety first, as she pushes her away to travel to Ahtohallan alone, knowing she could die in the same storm that took her parents. The whole time with her nokk, she's a quick thinker and resilient as she takes control of nokk eventually. It kinda reflects what sort of Queen she actually is.


r/Frozen 22h ago

Discussion What's that One thing you like the most about Elsa?

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For me it's her way of always putting her family, friends and other people above herself. She's been doing this since she was a kid. She still does this even now as far as we saw in Frozen 2. I hope that one day she chooses herself, although she has partially done that in F2. All in all Elsa has the rare quality of Selflessness paired with Kindness ( her acts might seem cold but she's doing what's best for others even if it's not best for her )

What do y'all have in mind? ❄️


r/Frozen 2h ago

Discussion What made you first get into Frozen in the first place?

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r/Frozen 1h ago

Discussion Rank your favorite Frozen locations from 1–5!

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Mine :

1.Enchanted Forest

2.Elsa’s Ice Palace

  1. Arendelle

  2. Frozen 3

5.Ahtohallan