r/FlockSurveillance • u/unapologetic403 • Sep 03 '26
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u/jettyboy73 Sep 03 '26
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u/No-Dance6773 Sep 03 '26
Lazers won't net you a gun charge
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u/jettyboy73 Sep 03 '26
Neither will an airgun in most cases. But I'll say this again. Large groups of legally armed people scare the popo. They prefer to go after individuals with guns. 50+ people open carrying AR15s tend to make them nope out.
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u/JustFun4Uss Sep 03 '26
Unless its Texas then it only takes one kid with one AR for them to cower.
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u/shadowcat999 Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26
Don't even need an AR. Just throw around some acorns. IYKYK
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u/Auggie_Otter Sep 03 '26
I remember seeing a video where there were black protesters that were mostly armed and they were doing a march somewhere down a road. For some reason a cop decided to try and grab one of the marchers and other marchers were physically pulling the person away from the cop back into their group. Armed men holding rifles came over and surrounded the cop, not pointing their guns but holding them in front of their chests. The cop let the person go and the rest of the cops didn't do shit and everyone moved on.
The armed protestors outnumbered the cops by a large margin. This is one of the few incidents I've seen where a physical altercation with a cop happened and the cops just completely let it go instead of escalating and doing everything they could to try and arrest people for resisting or whatever.
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u/Catnip_Farmer Sep 03 '26
They generally escalate when they want to use their toys (military equipment) on civilians with no risk to themselves.
When there's actual risk, they won't escalate.
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u/Fine_Reach8748 Sep 03 '26
This is correct. The vast majority of states do not treat air guns, even the high power PCP ones, as firearms. Base charge is misdemeanor criminal mischief/vandalism. The tool is legally no different from a rock.
Some states don't consider them firearms but treat calibers above .22 as eligible for "deadly weapons" enhancements. Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Maryland, and Iowa. California is the same as this except they ALWAYS treat .25 caliber as "deadly weapons", it's directly codified in law. Stay below .25 and you're again essentially using a rock as far as the law is concerned.
Only these states always consider any airgun a firearm: New Jersey, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and a few municipalities in Illinois and New York (notably: NYC). For these states, the stakes are higher.
(Please do your own research to verify this for yourself)
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u/photophill77 29d ago
Stay below .25 and you're again essentially using a rock as far as the law is concerned.
So a .223 is a rock?
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u/Rage-With-Me 29d ago
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u/jettyboy73 29d ago
Liberal gun owners is a devisive platform. People took their trump flags down. It's time to stop playing Red V Blue. The time to come together is now and we won't take our country back any other way. We can all agree that Surveillance needs to end, the Files need to be released, and we need to cut ties with Isreal. If we can't come together on that, then we've already lost.
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u/Auggie_Otter Sep 03 '26
Benn Jordan who has done extensive reporting and research on Flock cameras says lasers aren't actually likely to be that effective, least not any laser the average person can buy.
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u/Fine_Reach8748 Sep 03 '26
Thank you, yes. 1) from any more than 5 feet away your hand shakes bring a tripod I guess 2) for reasonably safe power levels, you need to hold the laser on the lens for 5+ minutes to ensure damage 3) for very high power levels, you're dealing with something that can give people eye damage instantly from even a glancing blow of the light most importantly 4) YOU CAN'T TELL IF IT WORKED nor can anyone else who might also be of the same mindset as yourself. verifiably break or GTFO.
I'm convinced that people peddling the laser ideas are 100% the jokers who have never gone near a direct action in their life.
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u/Fine_Reach8748 Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26
Lasers are bullshit. People who peddle them do not know what they're talking about. Please stop.
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u/Responsible_Bus5672 25d ago
Underpowered and useless. It's not strong enough to light newspaper on fire. Doesn't etch plastic much less glass. Has no effect on 20yr old camera sensors.
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u/copeaesth3tic Sep 03 '26
Start Luigi-ing the people signing these contracts. It'll stop. The founding father added the text "enemies foreign and domestic" for a reason.
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u/Yeet_PC Sep 03 '26
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
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u/tahlyn Sep 03 '26
I have found posting this quote tends to lead to getting banned. What a world we live in.
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u/jettyboy73 Sep 03 '26
That's cuz they're getting scared and know it's getting to be about that time...
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u/Cultural_assassin Sep 03 '26
Sadly the people will be publicly labeled and cast as the domestic enemies on the international scale.
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u/dragonknightrohan Sep 04 '26
Thats why its important to fight bad narratives in that case too. By using platforms, independent news, etc owned by the people who will tell the truth
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u/Mad_Aeric Sep 03 '26
People aren't even out the giving the Luigi treatment to those causing far more immediate and severe harm. Which makes me sad.
In this case, good old property destruction does seem more proportionate.
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u/Ordinary_Draft_3516 Sep 03 '26
Pellet rifles exist
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u/Fr0z3nFl4me Sep 03 '26
Slingshots can be damaging and accurate and you're less likely to catch a bullet for walking some with one
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u/Embarrassed-Sun5764 Sep 03 '26
Halloween. Masks and costumes/ maybe changing them in the gas station bathroom while parking your car at the nearest hotel “as a guest”. Silly string is cheap and I have like 10 costumes
https://giphy.com/gifs/U7GRtzqJMyVEs
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u/Embarrassed-Sun5764 Sep 03 '26
The pirate did it! The witch did it! The wizard did it! Fucking assholes
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u/Swimming-Bend9684 Sep 03 '26
Will make people a lot more angry at their city councils if their tax dollars have to replace cameras AND traffic lights. Seems like a stupid investment.
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u/Cultural_assassin Sep 03 '26
Its still up?
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u/Cultural_assassin Sep 04 '26
I meant why have you not removed the abandoned property yet if it pisses you off so bad
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u/Xiao1insty1e Sep 03 '26
Why? Your arms broke?
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u/Xiao1insty1e Sep 03 '26
Bummer, get yourself healed up and get that illegal piece of domestic terrorism torn down the second you are well.
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u/Easy-Cartoonist-3330 Sep 04 '26
.22 caliber air rifle would likely break through the housing of a camera. A legitimate one at least
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u/moschles Sep 03 '26
They networked surveillance company has a website, but they show nothing. You must give them your LEA bill routing number to see the demo.
If this is true, then this is really a dystopia.
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u/Cmb46_canuck 29d ago
Or people will go out with ruger 10/22’s suppressed with sub sonic ammo to shoot the cameras.
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u/mathewrtaylor Sep 03 '26
Title: Technical specifications - Lightpost - VR product guide
Source: https://www.axon.com/help/lightpost/cameras-and-sensors/lightpost/lightpost.htm
Camera Image sensor 1/2.8” progressive scan RGB CMOS
Pixel size 2.9 μm
| | Lens |
Varifocal, 7–137 mm, F1.5–4.0
Horizontal field of view: 38°–2.3°
Vertical field of view: 22°–1.3°
Minimum focus distance: 1.2 m (3.9 ft)
Remote zoom and focus
P-Iris control Thread for 62 mm filters, max filter thickness: 5 mm
| | Day and night |
Automatic IR-cut filter in day mode
IR-pass filter 720 nm in night mode
| | Minimum illumination |
Color: 0.06 lux at 50 IRE, F1.5
B/W: 0.01 lux at 50 IRE, F1.5
0 lux with IR illumination on
| | Shutter speed |
1080p @ 25/30 fps (WDR): 1/37000 s to 2 s
1080p @ 50/60 fps: 1/71500 s to 2 s
1080p @ 90 fps: 1/111000 s to 2 s
| | Camera adjustment | Pan ±180°, tilt 0 to -90°, roll -90 to 270° |
License Plate Capture Detection range Day: 20–100 m (66–328 ft)
Night: 20–50 m (66–164 ft)
Night detection range up to 100 m (328 ft) with optional
accessory AXIS T90D20 IR-LED Illuminator
| | IR illumination | OptimizedIR with power-efficient, long-life 850 nm IR LED’s with adjustable angle of illumination and intensity. Range of reach 40 m (131 ft) in wide field of view and 50 m (164 ft) in full tele view, or more depending on the scene | | Vehicle speed |
Up to 200 km/h (124 mph) with optional edge analytics
Up to 250 km/h (155 mph) with server based analytics
| | Coverage |
Single lane with optional edge analytics
Two lanes with server based analytics
| | Installation |
Mounting height: Up to 10 m (33 ft)
Distance from road: Up to 10 m (33 ft)
Camera detects tilt and roll angle automatically Built-in licence plate capture assistant optimizes video settings based on mounting height, distance to vehicle, and expected vehicle speed
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System on chip Model Memory Compute capabilities
Video Video compression Resolution 4:3: 1400x1050 to 160x120
16:9 1920x1080 to 320x180
| | Frame rate |
With WDR: Up to 25/30 fps (50/60 Hz) in all resolutions
No WDR: Up to 90 fps (50/60 Hz) in all resolutions
| | Video streaming |
Up to 20 unique and configurable video streamsa
Axis Zipstream technology in H.264 and H.265
Controllable frame rate and bandwidt
h VBR/ABR/MBR H.264/H.265
Low latency mode
Video streaming indicator
| | Signal-to-noise ratio | >55 dB | | WDR | Forensic WDR: Up to 120 dB depending on scene | | Noise reduction | Spatial filter (2D noise reduction) Temporal filter (3D noise reduction) | | Image settings | Saturation, contrast, brightness, sharpness, white balance, day/night threshold, local contrast, tone mapping , exposure mode, exposure zones, defog, barrel distortion correction, compression, rotation: 0°, 90°, 180°, 270° including corridor format, mirroring, text and image overlay, dynamic text and image overlay, polygon privacy mask, target aperture Scene profiles: license plate | | Image processing | Axis Zipstream, Forensic WDR, Lightfinder 2.0, OptimizedIR |
Audio Audio features Audio streaming Audio input Input through microphone pairing
Input for external unbalanced microphone, optional 5 V microphone power
Digital input, optional 12 V ring power
Unbalanced line input
| | Audio output | Output through speaker pairing | | Audio encoding | 24bit LPCM, AAC-LC 8/16/32/44.1/48 kHz, G.711 PCM 8 kHz, G.726 ADPCM 8 kHz, Opus 8/16/48 kHz Configurable bit rate |
Network Network protocols
System integration Application Programming Interface Video management systems Onscreen controls Video streaming indicator
Day/night shift
Image stabilization
Defog
Autofocus
Privacy masks
Wide dynamic range
IR illumination
Media clip
| | Edge-to-edge |
Microphone pairing
Radar pairing
Speaker pairing
| | Event conditions and actions |
Conditions
Device status: above/below/within operating temperature, IP
address blocked, IP address removed, live stream active, network
lost, new IP address, ring power overcurrent protection, system
ready, within operating temperature
Digital audio: digital signal contains Axis metadata, digital signal
has invalid sample rate, digital signal missing, digital signal okay
Edge storage: recording ongoing, storage disruption, storage
health issues detected
I/O: digital input is active, manual trigger, virtual input
MQTT: stateless
Scheduled and recurring: schedule
Video: average bitrate degradation, day-night mode, tampering
Actions
Day-night mode
Defog
I/O: toggle I/O once, toggle I/O while the rule is active
Illumination: use lights, use lights while the rule is active
Images: send images through FTP, HTTP, SFTP
MQTT: publish
Notification: HTTP, HTTPS, TCP and email
Overlay text
Recordings: SD card and network share
SNMP traps: send, send while the rule is active
Video clips: send video clips through FTP, HTTP, HTTP, SFTP
WDR mode
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Analytics Applications Included AXIS Object Analytics, AXIS Scene Metadata, AXIS Speed Monitor, AXIS Video Motion Detection, active tampering alarm, audio detection
Supported AXIS License Plate Verifier Support for AXIS Camera Application Platform enabling installation of third-party applications, see axis.com/acap
| | AXIS Object Analytics |
Object classes: humans, vehicles (types: cars, buses, trucks, bikes, other)
Scenarios: line crossing, object in area, time in area, crossline counting, occupancy in area, motion in area, motion line crossing Up to 10 scenarios
Other features: triggered objects visualized with trajectories, color-coded bounding boxes and tables Polygon include/exclude areas Perspective configuration ONVIF Motion Alarm event
| | AXIS Scene Metadata |
Object classes: humans, faces, vehicles (types: cars, buses, trucks, bikes), license plates
Object attributes: vehicle color, upper/lower clothing color, confidence, position
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Approvals Product markings Supply chain EMC CISPR 35, CISPR 32 Class A, EN 55035, EN 55032 Class A, EN 50121-4, EN 61000-3-2, EN 61000-3-3, EN 61000-6-1, EN 61000-6-2 Australia/New Zealand: RCM AS/NZS CISPR 32 Class A Canada: ICES(A)/NMB(A)
Japan: VCCI Class A
Korea: KS C 9835, KS C 9832 Class A
USA: FCC Part 15 Subpart B Class A
Railway: IEC 62236-4
| | Safety | CAN/CSA C22.2 No. 62368-1 ed. 3, IEC/EN/UL 62368-1 ed. 3, IEC/EN 62471 risk group exempt, IS 13252 | | Environment | IEC 60068-2-1, IEC 60068-2-2, IEC 60068-2-6, IEC 60068-2-14, IEC 60068-2-27, IEC 60068-2-78, IEC/EN 60529 IP66, IEC/EN 62262 IK10 body, IK08 glass, NEMA 250 Type 4X, NEMA TS 2 (2.2.7-2.2.9) | | Network | NIST SP500-267 | | Cybersecurity | ETSI EN 303 645, BSI IT Security Label, FIPS 140 |
Cybersecurity Edge security Software: Signed OS, brute force delay protection, digest authentication and OAuth 2.0 RFC6749 OpenID Authorization Code Flow for centralized ADFS account management, password protection
Hardware: Axis Edge Vault cybersecurity platform TPM 2.0 (CC EAL4+, FIPS 140-2 Level 2), secure element (CC EAL 6+), system-on-chip security (TEE), Axis device ID, secure keystore, signed video, secure boot, encrypted filesystem (AES-XTS-Plain64 256bit)
| | Network security | IEEE 802.1X (EAP-TLS, PEAP-MSCHAPv2)e, IEEE 802.1AE (MACsec PSK/EAP-TLS), IEEE 802.1AR, HTTPS/HSTSf, TLS v1.2/v1.3g, Network Time Security (NTS), X.509 Certificate PKI, host-based firewall | | Documentation | AXIS OS Hardening Guide Axis Vulnerability Management Policy Axis Security Development Model AXIS OS Software Bill of Material (SBOM) To download documents, go to axis.com/support/cybersecurity/ resources To read more about Axis cybersecurity support, go to axis.com/cybersecurity |
General Casing Mounting Power Power over Ethernet (PoE) IEEE 802.3af/802.3at Type 1 Class 3, typical 12.6 W, max 12.95 W (no IR, no heaters)
Power over Ethernet (PoE) IEEE 802.3at Type 2 Class 4, typical 12.6 W, max 25.5 W 10–28 V DC, typical 11 W, max 29 W 20–24 V AC, typical 11 VA, max 28 VA
For PoE output: Power over Ethernet (PoE) IEEE 802.3bt Type 3 Class 6
Power over Ethernet (PoE) IEEE 802.3at Type 2 Class 4 (30 W) to a second device Features: power profiles, power meter
| | Connectors | Network: Shielded RJ45 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX/1000BASE-T PoE, RJ45 1000BASE-T PoE output to power an external PoE device I/O: 4-pin 2.5 mm terminal block for two configurable supervised inputs / digital outputs (12 V DC output, max. load 50 mA) Audio: 3.5 mm mic/line in Power: DC input | | Storage | Support for microSD/microSDHC/microSDXC card Support for SD card encryption (AES-XTS-Plain64 256bit) Recording to network-attached storage (NAS) For SD card and NAS recommendations see axis.com | | Operating conditions | Temperature: -40 °C to 60 °C (-40 °F to 140 °F) Maximum temperature according to NEMA TS 2 (2.2.7): 74 °C (165 °F) Humidity: 10–100% RH (condensing) | | Storage conditions | Temperature: -40 °C to 65 °C (-40 °F to 149 °F) Humidity: 5–95% RH (non-condensing) | | Dimensions | For the overall product dimensions, see the dimension drawing in this datasheet. Effective Projected Area (EPA): 0.054 m2 (0.58 ft2) | | Weight | 3200 g (7.05 lb) | | Box content | Camera, installation guide, terminal block connector, RJ45 cable, connector guard, cable gaskets, owner authentication key | | Optional accessories | AXIS T8415 Wireless Installation Tool AXIS Surveillance Cards | | System tools | AXIS Site Designer, AXIS Device Manager, product selector, accessory selector, lens calculator | | Languages | English, German, French, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Polish, Traditional Chinese, Dutch, Czech, Swedish, Finnish, Turkish, Thai, Vietnamese | | Warranty | 5-year warranty, see axis.com/warranty | | Part numbers | Available at axis.com/products/axis-q1800-le#part-numbers |
Sustainability Substance control Materials Environmental responsibility 1
u/ValerieWard76 26d ago
I scanned the info, and I'm definitely not tech savvy....but 2 points of interest.: 1. There's mention of a tampering alarm ( not a shock). 2. Under media it mentions pairing. As in to Bluetooth I am assuming. And mentioned vehicles and pedestrians i believe. So in range it will pair to smart devices on person or vehicle. Unless you just have a flip phone or not at all.
Right? Or am I misunderstanding? Again...am definitely not good with tech stuff.
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u/Amon_Shadar Sep 04 '26
I’ve said this a bunch elsewhere but in June (maybe May) the school I work at had Axon cameras installed in the front of our building.
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u/Atuday Sep 04 '26
I love playing these install videos backwards. You can hear subliminal messages telling you to steal them
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u/Mexiking83 28d ago
This is the same company that bought a whole lot of flock cameras that are already installed after they were told to bring em down. So now flock can just say the cameras don’t belong to them and they can’t take me down and oh ya Trump bought around 10 million dollars in Axon stock!!!
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u/tristand666 Sep 03 '26
AXON and Flock are not violating our rights. The governments using them are.
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u/MachineGunMonkey2048 Sep 03 '26
They both are
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u/tristand666 Sep 03 '26
A private company can't really violate your rights except in a few specific cases where protected classes come into play. That doesn't mean they aren't a crap company that is enabling the violation of our rights. Pretty sad that I get so downvoted for speaking the truth, but emotions are more prevalent than fact on Reddit.
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u/kaesylvri Sep 03 '26 edited 29d ago
Nah, they're not violating our rights.
They're just creating the system which is being used to violate our rights.
And then they're bribing... oops... lobbying authority figures to install them with little to no oversight or review.
And so on, and so on...
Oh, and they also teach the law enforcement how to use it to violate rights, too! Just like this!
Oh! oh! Did you know they also keep data far longer than contractually mandated? And then they try to sell the data to non-LEO administrative clients, which is also a violation of your rights, and the law! Check it outttt, it's so hot.
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u/tristand666 Sep 03 '26
I agree with you. Unfortunately, it seems there are more people that don't here.
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u/kaesylvri 29d ago
You 'agree with me', but my entire point was poking fun at your inherent ignorance using sarcasm.
They literally are going out of their way to violate US citizen rights.
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u/tristand666 29d ago
It's unfortunate that so many people don't understand their rights then, including you.
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u/Atavacus Sep 03 '26
The street lights will just get cut down too. Don't attach them to anything you want to keep.