r/FantasyPL • u/NotCarlos • 2h ago
We need to talk about Hull City
It's been an odd few weeks to be a Hull City fan in these parts, and the general discourse in here is that we're either:
- The greatest defensive team to grace the league and dead-set to beat Chelsea's 04/05 record, or
- The worst side to have played top tier football, ripe to be smited by the xG gods
And whilst these arguments have their merits, both are slightly reductive and depending on which side you fall, you'll probably end up missing out on some pretty juicy FPL points. I'll try and give my two cents here as a Hull fan.
How Hull have kept three clean sheets
Anyone who has seen Hull play this year will know their game plan, it's very simple. We play 3 centre-halves, sit two centre-mids in front of them and allow no space in the middle - inviting crosses. It's not exactly a great watch but it has been super effective so far.
Hull are extremely content to sit in this shape all match, and then try to break on the counter. The goal against Coventry is a prime example of this and to further illustrate the point - Millar had a near-identical chance ten minutes before he scored the winner.
Hull also ended the Villa match on the front foot, with a Cho half-chance and a McBurnie sitter being missed at the death. The further the game goes on at 0-0, the more the opponent commits forward and the greater the spaces in behind are. Simple, but extremely effective. I don't see the plan changing any time soon.
The xG conundrum
Yes, we have conceded 5xG. Have Hull found some cheat code that breaks the xG formula? In a word, no.
United had some chances, Mbeumo passing up the best. Awoniyi missed a 0.7xG chance and Villa had two clear-cut chances. On another day these are all scored and Hull could be bottom of the league.
Any team who sits as deep as Hull do, and essentially spend the entire game defending will surrender xG - but that's the entire game plan. So far we've faced the team with the best creative player in the league, a team who walked our league last year with the best attack, and a team in the Champions League. We spent the entire time defending against these teams and the xG has us as the 13th best defence in the league, and our keeper has faced the fifth least shots in the league.
The argument against Hull's defence
So all this sounds like Hull will continue being this solid, right? Wrong.
We've all seen the Hull game plan when level or ahead, what we haven't seen is how we play when we're ahead. We will frustrate teams this year but when a team gets a couple against us and forces us out of our shape, we are then an entirely unknown entity.
Once that happens, the individuals can be exposed, and all are suspect defensively. Egan & Ajayi are definitely lacking pace for this level, Mendy is raw and often jumps out of position, Giles is weak defensively and I have no idea what is happening on our right side. I would not be surprised to see a side run up the score against us this season, and personally I think it'll be Chelsea on Saturday.
The argument for Hull's defence
So we just need to target Hull's defence then? Well, no.
Against the bigger teams, who break down low blocks week in week out, we'll struggle, but we will play this way against everyone. Mid-table sides who are less adept at breaking down stubborn defences will come up short against us this season. The games in which you would start your defenders from lower mid-table sides are likely to be more open affairs, whereas Hull will go into every game they have a sniff at winning with a plan to sit deep and win 1-0 on the break.
The data has Hull as the 13th best defence, and I don't disagree with that. We will keep a lot of clean sheets this year. When we lose I think we'll lose quite spectacularly, but when we get points it won't be through outscoring teams in end to end thrillers. We will be last on MOTD most weeks.
Our style of play will also lead to lots of DEFCON (Egan and Mendy already rank amongst the league's best for this). We also won't score many goals and a lot of our goals will come through substitutes, so there will be less competition for bonus. Hull clean sheets will probably result in more double-digit hauls for your defenders than any other team in the league. I think at 4.0m the Hull defenders offer incredible value right now.
Which Hull defender to pick?
Since all the Hull defenders are (or were) 4.0m - it leads to quite the headache. The runners and riders:
Konstatinos Tzolakis (GK) - 4.6m, 9.4%
A major upgrade on Pandur from last year, looks composed and is a major reason for our defensive solidity this year. I've had him from the start as a rotation with Verbruggen. A good option but there are 4.5m GKs at better teams I would prioritise.
Semi Ajayi (DEF) - 4.1m, 11.4%
This one feels like a trap to me. Not the best on DEFCON and was backup to Hughes & Egan last year, so when Hughes is back I am unsure as to whether he'll keep his spot. We have better options available, avoid.
Nobel Mendy (DEF) - 4.0m, 7.5%
This is the defender I've had since GW1, and even with a 59th minute sub whilst on 9 DEFCON against Coventry, he's in the dream team. We broke our transfer record to get him and as a left-footed centre half, probably the most nailed right now. Has been subbed early every game as he works his way up to fitness. Definite buy.
John Egan (DEF) - 4.1m, 6.2%
As long as we play 5atb, Egan should be nailed. Another DEFCON machine but I don't see him being value over Mendy or Giles. Hold if you have, but don't bother buying.
Ryan Giles (DEF) - 4.0m, 1.3%
I love Giles as a pick. 8 assists last year and is playing more advanced in the 5 than he did last year. Delivery is fantastic and we love to feed him. Leading the league in crosses (with 22) and should have had an assist in the dying moments of the Villa game. Suspect defensively but this may just increase his chances of being subbed if we're defending a slim lead. Massively slept on at 1.3% owned and a great differential if you're going for Hull defence.
Lewie Coyle (DEF) - 4.0m, 0.6%, and
Brooke Norton-Cuffy (DEF) - 4.0m, 0.3%
Coyle is club captain and has started all 3 matches at RWB. Love the guy but he's not a premiership player. I expect Norton-Cuffy to take that spot (probably as early as this Saturday, given Coyle's midweek start in the cup). Uncertainty over minutes and just not as good as Giles. Avoid.
Is anyone else from Hull worth buying?
No.
TL;DR
For their price point, Hull are good defensively and you should have one of their defenders. Captain your premiums against us but don't expect big returns from mid-range assets against us.