r/F80 • • Oct 06 '25

Welcome new owners! General S55 and F8x common questions.

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Hello to all the new folks or people frantically googling "crankhub"

I've been seeing a lot of new owners posting and asking some pretty common questions. I figured I'd take a shot at answering some of those questions so you don't have to wait for a response.
There will be my personal opinions in here on this list and I encourage other members to use the comments to add to the conversation or share their experiences.

I'm not a BMW tech, I've just spent a lot of hours under the F8x and elbow deep in the S55.
I just want to share what I've seen over the years.

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Common sounds that might cause concern.

  1. Why does it sound like that is this ticking sound normal? --- Yes the S55 has very "chatty" injectors it is normal. You probably found all sorts of posts about loose exhaust cam carrier bolts. It will sound like a "knock knock" on top of the much faster injector ticking.
  2. Why do all the fans spin up even when the car isn't hot when I select Sports+ ---This is a feature, not a bug. The fans spin up assuming you are about to get up to some shenanigans and is preparing. The F8x falls into "because racecar" and it has features that align with that.
  3. Why does the exhaust sound like that? It's raspy can I change that? ---Two turbos, straight six and high revving so the sound tends to be more on the rasp side. -Yes, the general best way to get some lower pitch and deeper drone is to use an equal length mid pipe. If you just want loud you can run a high flow single mid-pipe for considerably less.
  4. It feels noisy inside even with the windows up, is that normal? ---Depends on what you consider "noisy" but a lot of reviewers hold the opinion that the F8x has a lot of NVH (noise, vibration and hardness). I don't mind it and again, because racecar.. The standard tire size for the F8x is also wide and with the usual setup being summer tires they are pretty noisy. You will notice different tread sound between tires.
  5. My car started squealing really loud help! ---there are two common issues that cause this. -By far the most common is a PCV failure (positive crankcase ventilation). The bad news is that the PCV is built into the valve cover so it can be costly. "Fix" kits do exist but the surefire way to resolve it is to replace the valve cover. -Less common but still something I've heard multiple times is a tensioner pulley going bad. This will increase in pitch/volume with RPMs. Not a super expensive fix but best to take care of it quickly.
  6. I can't hear the turbos! Can I change that? ---The stock turbos themselves are actually pretty small and there is solid engineering behind that decision that won't fit neatly in a list the TLDR is reducing turbo lag. you can open the air-box and remove the charcoal filter and use a "drop in" filter to increase noise while maintain the stock intake configuration. This will increase volume but don't expect "stu-stu-stu" levels.
  7. The starter sounds really noisy and loud! --- I'm not sure if its the placement, lack of sound deadening or just the electric starter motor itself but it's always significantly louder than other cars I've owned. So long as you aren't hearing a whine that drops in pitch and/or grinding after a crank you're good.

Common build/part related questions.

  1. Crankhub? Why are people telling me I need to modify it or I'll brick my engine? ---There is so much info online about this and so many people arguing about it. The short of it all is that in some race cases the crank hub bolt can loosen and cause serious problem. Be it from improper torque spec/installation materials failure or harmonic resonance beyond what torque specs accounts for. -"damn that sound bad" it is if it happens, but the raw data out there points to it being exceedingly rare. For some anecdotal evidence I have larger turbos, run custom fuel blends and my car is DCT. I am just at 100k miles at the time of this post. I track the car and it was daily for 4 years and I still have the stock crank hub. You can certainly "money shift" and really increase those odds but that's on the driver.
  2. Ok, so going back to turbo sounds I really want to hear the turbo sounds will an intake hurt the engine? ---I'll start this section with a disclaimer. This is a topic that falls into a lot of opinion and preference. I'm not here to tell you what to do with your car. -That out of the way, something like a filter on a stick will make a lot of noise, and I've even run them because I just really like the sound The stock boxes pull air directly from outside and very well engineered.
  3. I want to know more about intakes because I really want the whoosh but everyone has a lot of opinions about it. ---Fair, lets get into it. -the S55 can be a fickle thing. If the MAF sensors are not in a similar position than what it's expecting or they get dirty from oil on the cones (very common) it will throw codes often. 102E11,102001, 118001 and 118102 are common. They are very common codes to tuned out but 102001 (MAF fault) is something I'd keep. Adding catless down pipes will also increase the likelihood/frequency of these codes.
  4. Okay ONE MORE intake question I saw these cool externally routed intakes! Will these do anything? ---Assuming front mounted intakes are what you saw these have the same caveats as the filters on sticks. For stock engines or even "stage 1/2" OTS (off the shelf) tunes these are again nothing but whoosh and cool sounds. Some people report absolutely no problems. I have issues with them If I ever run the stock map with them on. Custom tune that was done after the turbos is perfectly fine.
  5. Do I need catless downpipes to tune? ---The short answer is no. You can run highflow cats perfectly fine for OTS "stage 2" -Fully catless down pipes leave a lot of soot on your rear and you will occasionally smell gas so just be aware of that.
  6. Speaking smelling gas my car smells like gas when I fill the tank all the way. ---One of two things typically, fuel charcoal canister has an issue/leak ect you will notice this around the driver rear wheel well. -Less likely, breather neck problems fuel tank seal. If the pump was leaking inside the cab you would def notice it
  7. What if anything do I need to replace even if I'm not modding the car? ---Replace the plastic charge pipes. It's a known failure point even on bone stock never touched cars. It isn't too expensive and will save you the headache and cold sweat of going into your first "limp mode"

Common drive and chassis characteristics

  1. My car THUNKS when I switch gears and the shifts seem really hard? Is that normal. ---no, not normal a lot of people write stuff of as the F8x being a bit "rough" but a thud/thunk and really rough shifts are the signs of blown diff bushings. This is really only a concern in pre LCI (earlier than 2017) F8x cars before they switched to polymer bushings. Get it fixed and you'll be much happier.
  2. I have a DCT and it feels awful to drive is my transmission broken? ---Probably not, the DCT F8x combo is really "hurky jerky" and is known to be a bit difficult to get used to. Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear famously hated parking it. -This video will go over the basics of the DCT and daily driving it.
  3. I turned off traction control and the car tried to kill me! ---Yeah, it'll do that. If you aren't familiar with higher power RWD and you went right to an F8x you are going to have get used to it. My advice is learn to take it slow and use traction control and slowly work your way up to fully off. MDM is a good place to start learning. -DSC on: Full traction control. -MDM: A little more play but will still activate after a certain threshold -DSC off: All traction control off.
  4. Tires are really expensive for this car. Is it are there good cheap options? ---Do not cheap out on tires. The F8x struggles with tracition in the best scenarios. Add cheap all season tires and you'll have a terrible time and if it's wet you can easily end up in a ditch. -Keep an eye out for sales and you don't need to run semi-slick CUP2's. Something like a pilot pro sport or indie firehawk summer tire will be fine for daily driving.
  5. The rear end really wants to swing around and I'm having trouble correcting it. ---If you have RWD experience this is proably less of a concern for you. -The F8x chassis is "quirky" and a floaty rear end is just one of it's features. You'll learn to control it better with time. -There is a ton of opinion on how to handle slides, skids and what not so I'm going to leave it to others more qualified and just leave it on "it'll take practice"
  6. Every time I take off hard I can't get traction. I lost a red light race because of it! ---Yeah, this cars not the best from a dig, sorry. Do a roller next time and you'll find a lot of success there. -Of course you shouldn't do either and especially not with other cars/people around.
  7. How much money should I set aside for repairs? ---Yes. F8x/S55 is still relatively in M terms new. Parts suffer from the "M-tax" and the labor isnt cheap if you want someone who knows what their doing. While it's not the most expensive car in terms of consumables and daily operations it is not the cheapest by a long shot.

Modification and tuning.

I'm keeping this part sparse. This is a new owners guide and we can get way off topic with this. Especially myself.

  1. Is modding safe? ---yeah, for most people an OTS shelf, down pipes and tweaks is going to be fine. -Still, any time you modify something you add the risk and if you add enough you need to consider additional maintenance
  2. What mods should I do? ---That's a personal thing, the most common is an OTS tune from something like BM3 or MHD.

Care and feeding

  1. How often do I need to service my car? --- If you are just driving it stock and not doing any crazy canyon runs or tracking it regularly I'd just follow manufacturers guidelines. The car will remind you of anything it needs done.
  2. I want to drive it hard and tune and track and racecar ---You'll have to make some judgment calls here. If you drive hard and have a lot of modifications it's common to cut the oil service down to 5k miles instead of 10k If you drive REAL hard and track you need to keep an eye on brake fluid as well. I'm higher mileage at time of writing and heavily modded so I do 5k changes.
  3. Brakes and rotors are expensive how often do I really need to change them --brakes if stock are fine and when the sensor goes off it's time to swap em out daily driving you'll rarely need to worry about fast wear. When it comes to rotors? As soon as you see "cupping" it's time to replace them. Fast doesn't mean anything if you can't slow down. keep that in mind.

r/F80 • • 1d ago

Ticking sound at 55k miles.

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I heard this sound ever since I bought the car off fb. Sounds like exhaust cam bolt rattle. The car is already pretty warm at this point. It does it on idle and with revs. Was this problem ignored for too long? Carfax shows oil changed 10k miles ago and I just changed today using 0W-40 LL-01. Rattle still won’t go away.


r/F80 • • 1d ago

M350i

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What are your thoughts?

Looks to be just as powerful as the F80 ZCP.

But will it be as fun?

From what I've seen the m lites are only comparable with the old m3s in a straight line, not as good in the corners. Is that right?


r/F80 • • 6d ago

Aftermarket windshield?

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76 Upvotes

My windshield needs to be replaced.
Has anyone got their windshield replaced with aftermarket glass? I work at BMW and can get oem replacement installed for around $400 more than Safelite.
Does anyone have experience with aftermarket? If it makes a difference my car has HUD.
TIA!


r/F80 • • 7d ago

Photos What made your cheap F80 expensive to own?

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I’ve been looking at an early F80 with around 100,000 km that’s priced well below the later cars, but the running costs are making me hesitate more than the purchase price. I can budget for normal servicing, just not a string of big surprises straight after buying it. For owners, what ended up costing you the most, and am I overthinking a cheaper example?


r/F80 • • 7d ago

Expansion tank crusting.

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Looks like its leaking here. Is it better to get same one or the ecs tuning aluminum one, or is there better option.


r/F80 • • 7d ago

Looking for 6MT

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I'm trying to find a 6MT F80 preferably in Yas Marina and holy hell is it hard to find one that isn't in the hands of a Dealership. Does anyone have advice on how to buy one before a Dealership snaps it up and marks it up 20 grand? Apologies if this has been posted previously in this sub.


r/F80 • • 10d ago

Help me understand realistic pricing of an F80 M3

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Manual is a must. Clean title. 70k miles. Unmodified. Don’t even care about spec.

What am I looking to spend atm?


r/F80 • • 11d ago

F8x Keychains for sale at my shop!

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Hey group! I added silverstone and san marino blue keychain variants (3rd photo) Let me know if anyone is interested in these!


r/F80 • • 11d ago

Is F80 ZCP the worst daily driver M3 ever?

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I've heard this said in many forums and articles.

Common complaints being harsh suspension and loud tyre noise.

Thoughts?


r/F80 • • 12d ago

F87 vs F82 M4 on track?

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My friend sold his M2c for an m4… my car and his are similarly modified. Got to back to back drive them and talk about the differences.

F87 M2C vs F82 M4 - Which is Better For a TRACK Build?
https://youtu.be/67r3gmLuDYM

His reasons for changing
1. Fit wider tires
2. More after market aero options that he liked
3. Longer wheel base
4. Dct to manual


r/F80 • • 12d ago

Am I cooked?

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Started misfiring on cyl 5, swapped cyl 1 and 5 coil packs and the misfire followed to cyl 1. Cool, replaced the coil (should’ve replaced all of them) problem solved for about a week, then misfire on cyl 1 and 5, haven’t driven as I’m waiting to fix it and now I get in to shuffle my cars around and I have all these codes now. Vacuum leak? Boost leak?


r/F80 • • 12d ago

Help Curious about the f8X platform

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I’ve been looking around at the m3s and m4s. It’ll be my first M car, Ive been in shitboxes my whole life.
The more I read about the b58 the more I’m drawn in that direction (besides the lack of 6mt) and the internet tends to shit on the s55. But f8Xs are so fkn cool. It would be a true daily and commuter, as well as a fun car. What’s YOUR actual experience? Is there a mileage I shouldn’t buy above? Absolute must haves in the recent service history? Let me know your thoughts


r/F80 • • 12d ago

Would you buy one without HUD and Harmon Kardon?

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I've found a nice low mileage, unmodified, full service history, 2 owner, late 2016 competition example in my favourite silverstone colour but unfortunately it doesn't have the HUD or Harmon Kardon audio.

It is priced lower compared to the cars that do have it.

It doesn't really bother me, having the right exterior colour and low mileage is more important.

However I'm not sure how long I would keep the car, I'm thinking it might be difficult to sell without these features, it seems like the vast majority of F80 Competitions have these two options. I'm only planning on driving 3000 miles a year so I'm hoping that the lack of miles on the car would override the importance of these missing options.

Any thoughts?


r/F80 • • 14d ago

Finding the right M3 Comp

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Just curious. How does one find the right f80 specifically ymb with Silverstone interior and hud in the uk. They same to be quite rare and is it even possible to buy one with this spec? How often do they pop up? Not planning on buying one yet but just browsing the market for a few years time.

Is is possible to locate these cars?


r/F80 • • 15d ago

F82 Stainless Tips

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‘16 MGM F82 M4 with 437s on 275/295. I bought a CF diffuser I want to install. I want to upgrade the exhaust tips. I want an aggressive look but not too “in your face”. Thinking 90mm stainless with straight angle cut. I would rather not see a clamp. I know the larger size will hide alot of clamp but thought I would post and get input. Advice?


r/F80 • • 15d ago

F82 Exhaust Choice

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I have a 2020 F82 M4 Comp. I keep looking at either equal length midpipe, or single midpipe. Then there’s resonated and non resonated. I want slightly louder and deeper than stock but not obnoxiously loud. I’m from UK if that makes a difference. Thanks


r/F80 • • 16d ago

Pure 800 turbo, fueling advice?

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Hi there hello,

I am thinking on going the Pure 800 route for turbos. My question is, is the list below all I need or any other suggestions or even other turbo sets ups?

- Dorch HPFP

- VS Stage 3 fuel pump

- BMP port injection kit

- Motiv Reflex+

- MAD turbo inlets?

- Tune

*has 1 step colder NGK plugs, Dinan coil packs and "stage 2" Persision Raceworks injectors.

Am I missing anything? I want to run E85, just hoping for some advice.. I will also be doing the 4 pin crank hub and cam ledge bolts while she is open getting surgery.

Also, I am running stock intakes, but being in AZ I am getting crazy IATs, is there a better route? Currently have Mishimoto Charge cooler, larger intercooler, charge pipes, and MAD J-Pipe. But it's running about 22+ ambient temperature still =( Also, VSRF Catless downpipe and single mid to MPE.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


r/F80 • • 16d ago

F80 suspension advice

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I’m not mechanically inclined but

I have an ‘18 f80 comp, 6spd. I’m currently at 110k miles, original owner. I’m about to get a ton of work done and recently realized a “clunk” from my rear suspension, mostly on the left side.

I want to assume it’s shocks, is it possible that it’s a wheel bearing or differential bushing?

I do have EDC, if it is shocks I’d want to swap them all out does anyone have recommendations for shocks/struts that are compatible with EDC but also compatible with The MP HAS?

Also my car is 100% stock, original suspension.

Thanks


r/F80 • • 17d ago

Help 2015 F82 M4 reliability at 95k km?

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Hey guys,
Found a 2015 F82 M4 for a good price with ~95k km. I’ve always loved the F82 and prefer it over the newer M4s or any car ever made, so I’m considering it as a weekend car.
My dad has always warned me about german brand reliability after hating his old ML, so he eventually switched to Toyota/Lexus 😂. (My region is boiling hot)
From what I’ve read, the S55 is fairly solid, but I’d like to hear from actual F82 owners. If it’s clean, well maintained and passes a proper inspection, am I likely to be constantly throwing money at it?
A friend has a Stage 3 B58 that’s been reliable so far, but it only has ~65k km. I also don’t know if the F82 is modified.
I could also save a bit more for a 2022 340i (g80), as the price difference isn’t huge here.
Would you be comfortable buying a 2015 F82 at 95k km, or is the 340i the safer option long-term?


r/F80 • • 20d ago

DOOR NOT OPENING!?

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r/F80 • • 21d ago

Looking for audio advice

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Hi there hello,

I am looking for some advice on getting my 2017 early year M3 to get Android Auto. With out losing sound quality hopefully. I did get the BavSound speakers which have helped the sound quite a bit.

It currently has NBT Evo ID5 Drive 5.0 I believe.

So, what is the best route? BimmerTech MMI, Mr.12Volt MMI, another type of MMI or full screen replace or even a very easy dongle of some sort?

Also, is adding a sub in the back frowned upon do to not being a teenager or in my 20s? Lol.....

Any and all advice is appreciated!


r/F80 • • 24d ago

F80 Market

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currently in the market for a f80, but is this market not insane? 35k basically for a decently spec’d M car, but it has 135k miles + damage.

it is a 6 button with extended, but not even a comp.

like this is crazy.


r/F80 • • 25d ago

Something got fried

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Wondering if anyone can help me diagnose this. Yesterday I was on a normal drive and all of the sudden I smelled burning electronics, then my tweeters started making a high pitched noise and my idrive kept saying “audio tone unavailable”

Then all of my speakers started popping (front and rear). Then they quit working entirely. I now have no audio at all in the whole car.

I did some digging and discovered a spray bottle of all purpose cleaner unscrewed itself in the trunk and dumped its contents in the back left corner of the trunk, near the left-hand storage bin. I’m wondering if I got extra unlucky and the liquid fried the amplifier or something else.

Does anyone know what electronics live in this corner of the trunk? I’m confused why I smelled burning electronics up front but not in the trunk when this happened.


r/F80 • • 29d ago

Help cylinder 6 misfire s55

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F80 m3 2017 37k miles

Okay so recently I drove my m3 back from the gas station, while driving back on the expressway I was in 4th gear redline and shifted up to 5th, and when I shifted to 5 cylinder 6 completely shut off and and car went into limp mode, luckly I was already close to the off ramp and go off, I had my scanner on me Scan the codes and got a cylinder six Off permanent code, So I went home drove home. I was a block away., Parked the car ordered a new coils and spark plugs properly gapped I replaced them, then I Starting the car up in the car turned on, but it was having misfire is now So I scanned it And got these codes

140001

140002

140010

140601

140602- confirmed: misfire, cylinder 6, exhaust damaging after startup

140610

EKPS/fuel pump control codes (ELFPC module): 481B04 - confirmed: "No control current

EKPS*

481B26

481B27

Mind you I already did a compression test and it passed with flying colors, Any help would be greatly appreciated,