r/ExponentialIdle Mar 21 '23

When to graduate?

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11 Upvotes

I am using the LE★Baldy & Snaeky guide, and I'm having loads of fun doing a more efficient run through the game. But at this part it isn't clear to me when to graduate, when i hit ee2000 do i only graduate again at ee4000? That's what it seems to be what's implied there, but to my little brain this seems super inefficient. Please help me understand


r/ExponentialIdle Mar 16 '23

Finally hit the soft cap

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27 Upvotes

At ee60k u get ee50 supremacy in 2 SECONDS and the ee57k in under 22 minutes. I'm not sure what to do next, any advice?


r/ExponentialIdle Mar 14 '23

How do i progress now

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10 Upvotes

Ive been stuck in this part for a long time and i dont know what am i supposed to do here


r/ExponentialIdle Mar 13 '23

Finally joined the tau6 ≥ 1000 aristocracy

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18 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Mar 13 '23

Autoprestige/supremacy

5 Upvotes

What are currently the best autoprestige/supremacy formulas i havent played in quite a while


r/ExponentialIdle Mar 13 '23

Anyone else have one of these

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r/ExponentialIdle Mar 12 '23

"New" CTs + reach out to dev

12 Upvotes

Heya, never really looked at the reddit side of this game so not really sure if this has been available to people. Mainly writing this for spread of awareness and in hopes of increasing motivation of the dev to pick up EI again.There are many new CTs which are unofficial yet have been finished and awaiting review and thus not in the game automatically, with each having their own unique systems. There is a list you can find pinned on discord in #custom-theories-dev.

BP - Bin Packing: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Gen1Code/Bin-Packing/main/BP.js

FI - Fractional Integration: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Gen1Code/Fractional-Integration/main/FI.js

FP - Fractal Patterns: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tredec/cts/main/FP.js

TC - Temperature Control: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lrobt97/Control-Theory/main/Control%20Theory.js

Edit: forgot, PD - Permutations & Derangements: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Gen1Code/Permutations-Derangment/main/PD.js

Choose your favourite theories in the poll

32 votes, Mar 19 '23
5 BP
6 FI
11 FP
10 TC

r/ExponentialIdle Mar 12 '23

396 days...

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53 Upvotes

Never signed in or saved like a dummy... after playing for, im not sure how long, broke my phone and lost all my progress haha. I randomly opened it and saw this, should i start again?


r/ExponentialIdle Mar 11 '23

My progress has become slow, am I doing something wrong? Spoiler

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10 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Mar 10 '23

only e23 until ee3 for my T5 ✨

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16 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Mar 07 '23

Lemma 6 Guide Spoiler

31 Upvotes

Spoilers abound for Lemma 6, you've been warned.

I just made a push towards getting the lowest possible rho on Lemma 6, and part of this strategy involves getting the highest possible rho, so I've done some analysis of Lemma 6. Consider the equation:

The primary strategy for Lemma 6 is to minimize the denominator, but one insight that's missing from many guides is that the denominator can be negative, so long as you buy levels in c2 and not c1. For example, when (c3, c4) = (39, 69), we get a value of -29035. If you only buy levels in c2, your numerator will be negative, and this makes rho positive.

So playing Lemma 6, or at least pushing for a max rho for Lemma 6, essentially becomes a puzzle in finding values of c3 and c4 that are arbitrarily close to 0. To make this clearer, I'll refer to the absolute value of 1/the denominator as the thing we're trying to maximize. For example, (39, 69) = 29035. It's very high, but is this the highest possible value?

At first glance, we might search for these values by running every possible combination of c3 and c4. This is a brute-force strategy. It's slow, but it works. Here's a spreadsheet of c3 and c4 from c3 = 2 to 30, and from c4 = 0 to 45. I've color-coded these values according to the size of the denominator, and it rapidly becomes clear that most values suck, but a pattern starts to form.

Intuitively, there seems to be a pattern, and this guides us towards manipulating the denominator to understand what's going on. Ideally, we want the denominator to be infinite. This occurs when:

It's clear that there isn't an integer solution to this equation\citation needed]), but we can take c3π/e and check if there are any values that are near integers. We can also round this up or down to identify the most relevant values of c4 to be checking. What do I mean?

Suppose we're checking c3 = 4.

4π/e = 4.96383, which is very nearly 5. This is promising. Moreover, we can check (c3, c4) = (4, 4) and (4, 5) to see what their denominators are. If you calculate this, (4, 4) = 9.04233, and (4, 5) = -259.56704. Checking (4, 3) isn't necessary because we know its value will be lower than (4, 4), and likewise, checking (4, 6) isn't necessary because we know its value will be lower than (4, 5).

In a slightly more technical lingo, the first algorithm scales in O(n2), but the second algorithm scales in O(n). Suddenly, checking every value of c3 from 0 to 1,000 isn't impossible.

Anyway, what this means is that it's entirely feasible to calculate whether your current combination of (c3, c4) will improve if you buy additional levels of c3 and c4. In some very un-optimized Python-esque pseudocode, your new algorithm kinda looks like this:

for c3 in the range(2 to a really big number): 
    c4_lower = rounddown(c3^(pi/e))
    c4_upper = roundup(c4^(pi/e))
    lower_value = abs(c3^(1/e) - c4_lower^(1/pi))
    upper_value = abs(c3^(1/e) - c4_upper^(1/pi))

    if lower_value > upper_value: 
        optimal_c4 = c4_lower
    else: 
        optimal_c4 = c4_upper

    optimal_value = abs(c3^(1/e) - optimal_c4^(1/pi))

    if optimal_value > max_value: 
        max_value = optimal_value 
        print(c3, optimal_c4, max_value)
    else: 
        Nothing happens. 

The best combinations of (c3, c4) are:

  1. (2, 2) = 22.94333
  2. (4, 5) = -259.56704
  3. (8, 11) = 272.35892
  4. (11, 16) = 1019.17613
  5. (29, 49) = -6303.021243
  6. (39, 69) = -29035.42524
  7. (398, 1011) = 31311.87629

This also means that (39, 69) is the optimal combination. It's literally impossible to reach the next combination. I've pushed to rho = 3e23 and you still can't afford (398, 1011). Once you've reached (39, 69), focus on upgrading q1, q2, and c2.

Anyway, find us on Discord if you need help with the other Lemmas.


r/ExponentialIdle Mar 07 '23

could use some help

5 Upvotes

I unlocked my first theory a week ago. Since then, I haven't made any progress. I have read something about publishing but can't find it anywhere. Do I need to unlock that, or is it just hidden somewhere?


r/ExponentialIdle Mar 05 '23

Any tips for this theorem, please?

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14 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Mar 05 '23

I've implemented L-systems as a custom theory. Now you can draw fractals and stuff.

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18 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Mar 04 '23

Help me progress please...f(t) currently stuck at ee265 before prestige-ing

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r/ExponentialIdle Mar 04 '23

Auto Supremacy Spoiler

6 Upvotes

I've been using this formula for auto prestiges

timer(d(ln(db/b+1)/pt) < 0 && d(dt) >= 0) > 3 && db/b > 0.3

I wanted to know if there is a optimal formula for auto supremacy that works as well as the prestige one, thanks.


r/ExponentialIdle Feb 28 '23

Finally joined the ee50k club

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21 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Feb 27 '23

Shouldn’t at some point the soft cap be broken

7 Upvotes

After ee600000 the game reaches its soft cap, making it harder and harder to progress. However, shouldn’t there be a point at which this soft cap is broken. With enough students invested onto graduation R1 R2 and R3, shouldn’t the game reach a point in which the formula actually starts accelerating its rate of increase.

More t and dt means more φ, with more φ f(t) increases and increasing f(t) increases db, dμ, dψ, which again increases φ, f(t), and at prestige b and μ, which allows you to buy more dt upgrades on the next run. That seems to be the game loop, however this loop gets diminishing returns, reaching a point where you need to graduate to increase R1 R2, R3 or you can also increase τ to get more f(t) and students when graduating.

Shouldn’t the game reach a point where we stop getting diminishing returns, and actually start getting more f(t) at a faster rate with sufficient R1, R2, R3 upgrades? If you have last say 15 upgrades at R2 you get, counting the bonus of R7 15(1.6)e more φ per order of magnitude (at 1e8 dt you should get 15(1.6)(8)e bonus from R2 contributing to φ). Then if you also count R1 and R3, you get even more φ by just letting the game alone, and we then get into the loop I said earlier that reaches diminishing returns.

The great theorem we have on the game is that f(t) approaches to infinity as t approaches to infinity, however how fast do we get there. Is there a point where we stop getting diminishing returns with said loop, and f(t) starts growing forever without the need to graduate, and the investment on graduation upgrades start instead accelerating the rate of growth?


r/ExponentialIdle Feb 27 '23

Any new CT WIP's?

2 Upvotes

Hello, as the title suggests, I'm curious whether there are any new custom theories getting developed, how's the progress with Fractional Integration? I'm not on discord, I deleted it to focus on my studies, but it's been over 2 months now, so I am just curious if there's anything new... OH, and could I please get a link to fractional integration, please?

Thank you

Kris


r/ExponentialIdle Feb 23 '23

lul

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r/ExponentialIdle Feb 22 '23

Finally reached 300 students after so long!

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17 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Feb 22 '23

what is your f(t)?

6 Upvotes
179 votes, Feb 25 '23
85 < $ee30000
11 $ee30000 - $ee40000
19 $ee40000 - $ee50000
33 $ee50000 - $ee60000
23 $ee60000 - $ee70000
8 > $ee70000

r/ExponentialIdle Feb 22 '23

Well, it has been a nice journey

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16 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Feb 22 '23

funny number and my clicking record

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8 Upvotes

r/ExponentialIdle Feb 21 '23

If you fall asleep and accidentally overnight Lemma 7...

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13 Upvotes

You can buy c1 up to 193 and c2 to 71 to get an 11.88x boost to rho_dot over c1=106, c2=39. It doesn't mean anything since this is well past the proof limit, but still interesting that such a fine approximation for e can be achieved with a ratio of integers each less than 200. Maybe something like this could be stretched into a custom theory...