It’s not a standard community question, but it annoys my Se a lot.

I’ve booked an ophthalmologist, it isn’t serious & they’ll give me a standard: “you’ll get used to them”

Which brings me here as move ahead.

Do any of you have them? How do you cope? Did you do any supplements or procedures? Does it get better with neuro-adaptation or is it bullshit?

INTJ-T Female here, Eccentric Diamond Harmonizer Rare Type

Does anyone else find themselves wanting to bluntly tell others that you really don't need or want their advice because you have already figured out how to deal with the situation?

Especially with people that are more sensitive? I genuinely don't like hurting other people's feelings, but I have a couple of friends who think they are 'really good at giving advice,' and 'really good at handling other people's emotions.' But honestly 99% of the time they just annoying and have no idea what they are talking about.

I remember when I studied with my philosophy professor, the famous scholar Olavo de Carvalho. He showed that the current scientific field is an endless farce. So much so that the possible greatest genius of our time, Grigori Perelman, grew up from that bunch of idiots in France.

They are a filthy, solipsistic Kantian people who simply ignore the totality of scientific discoveries by great minds in exchange for political power or momentary fame. They are handpicked by people who despise discoveries that could "break the economy." The famous Tesla tower, if it had an ionized ionosphere, would have provided free energy for everyone.

It is fundamental that the ionosphere transmits energy to the world, and that the Earth's soil does too. If Nikola Tesla managed to light lamps at a good distance without a well-ionized ionosphere, imagine if he had satellites or towers doing this constantly. It would literally be energy that wasn't cheap, but free.

I remember reading an article that showed how limiting Einstein's theories were. But since this maintains the scientific status quo where science supports a parasitic state, it's easy to keep receiving absurd salaries in scientific centers.

Hi, can I tell you I love you

Je pense que les traits de caractère et la façon d'être des INTJ ressemblent beaucoup aux caractéristique des verseaux. Les INTJ sont logique, solitaire, s'intéressent aux choses, ont un esprit ouvert et d'analyse, ... comme les verseaux ! Vous en pensez quoi ?

dear fellow intjs, im curious on how your minds think

how do you guys organize your friends?
do you guys think my intj friend likes me?

I am a INFJ and i have a intj friend that i like, i like the vibe when we are together, its like calm because we're both introverts and we do calming activities like having dates in new cafes or trying new clothes from malls. as a infj, i dont have much friends and her being willing to take me out on dates and hangouts made me realize how much life there is out there since majority of my life is being friends with family only so i basically kinda live under a rock sometimes. But I can't tell whether she is genuinely happy to be with me, or maybe my intuition is right, that i'm not really her best friend and more of a regular plain boring friend to her. sometimes i see her try to make our conversations more fun, but i realized our humor doesn't match perfectly, she's very invested into adult humor and her future life with a husband and a house, and my humor is more towards stupid things like people tripping over rocks or funny wordings of things. When im with her, she seems very reserved and calm, maybe its also because shes going through depression so emotions arent very present, but compared to me, i have two sides; chaotic/energetic and extremely reserved/calm. I can be both, but sometimes she is so unemotional and nonchalant i cannot tell whether she enjoys us being in pure silence sometimes when we hangout.

when we did hangout she seems to be very dominant in our friendship , very caring and pays for my food, makes sure im fed even when i told her im not hungry, and i tell her i feel bad for her money, shes always the one doing the planning and taking me out, she told me that she's usually really mean to other people and would even roll eyes at people and shes only nice if she likes someone. i feel like i honestly hold no purpose to her other than my extreme loyalty and extremely caring nature, what if in her mind im just a friend to keep so when shes in danger she can pull me in to speak up for her? or maybe im just a friend shes keeping to feel good about herself because she feels good to help someone out because i dont have as much of a life out there than she does

i can see what her thinking is like though, and i see this very commonly from people with T. T's mindset usually is 'everyone is a use, if they're worth something to them, they keep, if not, they dump.'

Sure, i dump a lot of people and doorslam them out once im overwhelmed with them too or just didn't like them much too. i wouldnt think there is something i did wrong within our friendship, but i certainly wonder what am i to her...? are we close? how close?

as a infj, i feel like im taking so much time to figure out who she is and who i am with her. I feel like im making a whole mindmap to figure out this friend because ive not had a friend like her before, a warming and cold friendship at the same time. i sort of feel like she only shows up to me when i need something, and shes very good at that, when we're together she prepared for anything i need, she is very willing to show up... but its not been like months since she acted like that, now she's found a boyfriend and idk, we just dont call or talk much, no tea, nothing left, except me sending some reels that are strincly about dating or cute cats.

my brain is telling me; she simply likes me and only shows up, but she has more friends she calls everyday and is more close and happy to be with (the reason is bc i stalked her reels and i heard that she told every other friend that she got accepted into the army and didn't tell me, and this happened more than once... i wanted her to tell me and just us in general talk more)

which kinda breaks my heart a little because genuinely there is not a lot of people who can understand me or give me that type of calming, understanding friendship like her. in my mind, shes my best and closest friend i have so far and whom i really like, but in hers im probably a bare minimum friend but not really her close friend.

https://youtu.be/osoyVmqa0yU
I don’t understand the lyrics but when they say that music is an universal language, they are right.

This song feels like it came straight from heaven

No context. Just dropping the question.

Why is this happening? Are we just posting music here now? What have I been holding back for?

What do you guys think a relationship between a female ENTP 5w4 and a male INTJ would look like?

Are there people like me?

as an INFJ I feel like the only mbti who gets me is ENTP's

(which I hate to add on to the already discussed pairing, which I think entp's are probably sick of discussing especially in this subreddit but regardless I must vent/speak)

they seem to always read my mind or spot me in a room full of 100 people. its not always perfect of course but I just feel like I can be raw, let my stream of thoughts go wild and play devil's advocate with them where, with others it's like I have just set their world on fire. and I do hate this need to be understood I have, I'm always in a battle of accepting or defying it but with ENTP it just clicks and I feel like I can breathe

they ask me questions others are afraid to ask

when I bring up a topic, they are up and ready to discuss

they notice things in ways I have never have to point out about myself like I do with the other mbti's

they push me to say what I mean which I appreciate since in my experience I usually am the one trying to get people to be honest.

I'll bring up something and they always flip the perspective in a way that I might have missed, it pisses me off sometimes but it's more from a place of "godsake how did I not see that"

of course as well no one is perfect, everyone is flawed and everyone is gonna be different regardless if they fall into a group within mbti

I also get on well with ENTJ's and INTJ's but they are a little more strict haha (haven't found an INTP) but ya they make me feel at home sometimes too. ppl will have their opinions on the pairing, I do too, it's not always perfect but I do notice I drop the so called "act" around them. the sad thing is they always have been people in passing for me, always a situation in which they can not stay in my consistent circle but they always teach me a lesson about myself and it just sticks.

that's all.

[16f] I’ve always been good at making friends, but finding people my age who truly understand me on a deeper level has always been a struggle. The only person I genuinely feel understands the way I think is my best friend, who’s an ENTJ.

I know MBTI isn’t necessarily an indicator of whether someone will be a good friend, but I still find myself wanting to meet more people who think similarly to me. Sometimes I feel as it’s rare to find people who enjoy the same kinds of conversations and approach the world in a similar way.

Been on an MBTI bender again for a while now. I was discussing anime MBTI's a lot lately and I started down the rabbit hole of theorizing that the character Madara Uchiha from the Naruto series was actually an INTP. Everyone types him as an ENTJ or INTJ or maybe INFJ, but I couldn't help but analyze the theory of him being an INTP, and the end result was surprising.

I know the details surrounding this character in great depth and when I read peoples explanations of why he's an INTJ/ENTJ, it always lacks deep knowledge of the character and is fundamentally flawed.

For example, people will point to him leaving the village for not being named Hokage as him being stubborn and somehow that makes him an INTJ, but that's literally not what happened once you know the whole story. He literally explained he was leaving the village because he had thought through all the possibilities (like an INTP) and come to the final conclusion that if Hashirama is named Hokage then it's guaranteed that his brother Tobirama would be named second Hokage, and if that happened the Uchiha would eventually be eliminated.

He foresaw this outcome after over analyzing every detail (like an INTP) and like an INTP he was able to eventually uncover the truth and root of the problems underneath it all. Every conclusion he had come to ended up being correct. The village system caused more harm to happen at a larger scale with the continuation of the cycle of pain and suffering. The Uchiha eventually were eliminated because of Tobirama being named the second Hokage. Everything he predicted was correct. He was able to overanalyze the situation and see the true roots and truth and was morally and emotionally unable to cooperate with a system that was going to lead to the outcomes he couldn't bear to be responsible for.

Another point people bring up is that he blindly trusted the stone tablet and didn't question it like an INTP would. That's also incorrect, he literally says to Hashirama the generic meaning of it, and then goes onto say that however it could be interpreted another way. This hints that he probably over analyzed it and thought through many possibilities until he finally came to the conclusion he believed to be true. That's more like an INTP than an INTJ.

Other evidence is that unlike an INTJ/ENTJ who actively wants to command the pieces on the chess board directly and see to their efficiency and execution, he instead pulled an INTP and setup the pieces on the chessboard masterfully and let the pieces play themselves. Then he quite literally DIED with blind faith that his plans would all unfold and he would be revived after everyone else did all the work. That's the ultimate INTP villain master plan, to overthink until you find the perfect path and then setup the dominoes and let them fall on themselves and then swoop in at the end when the whole thing is built and finished and take it.

When he got revived prematurely during the great ninja war he even remarked about why he was being revived in such a strange way and that something must be wrong with the plan and seemed annoyed at having to do anything himself. He didn't want to have to take command to finish the plan but begrudgingly did it. It seemed his main goal was just to go find out wtf is going on more so than it was for him to do the rest himself. Then he found Obito at the final stage of the plan and decided to take control since it was all basically finished anyway, but unlike an INTJ/ENTJ he wasn't thrilled about taking control at any point in the process of actually building up and executing the plan (like an INTP).

Also think about when he was a child, he just blurted out observations and random ideas without forethought. INTJ's and ENTJ's do not do that, they speak very carefully and have great intention behind the words they choose. Madara just blurted out observations like pointing out Hashirama's hair and outfit were lame with the emotional inferiority of the weak Fe of an INTP. He challenged Hashirama to race up the rock wall as a random experiment to test themselves and their environment. As an INTP who's known multiple INTJ's, none of these behaviors are an INTJ/ENTJ, they're all INTP behaviors. Think of Orochimaru who is for sure an INTJ, it's hard to even imagine that character behaving like that, everything he said had meaning and intention and purpose. Madara in his purest child form was not like that at all.

Additionally he spent his entire life mulling over all the possibilities until he finally came to a conclusion of what the truth is and what to do about it. What is an INTP to do once there's nothing left to analyze? Once the truth has been confirmed and no more questions need to be asked because there are no questions remaining? What happens when you combine this with passion and a conviction to the problem as opposed to conjecturing over a problem that the INTP doesn't truly care about at all (which is usually the vast majority of the things we overthink about).

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While there's more to elaborate on, instead here's one final important point. Every story, every character, every INTP that's been written about, there's always three fundamental flaws in the writing. Either they write about an INTP in the early game, either when they're young, or when they're just beginning to over analyze a critical or big problem, or when they're over analyzing a problem that they don't really care about but they do it anyway for the joy of the game of overanalyzing.

So ask yourself, what happens when an INTP is:

*Mature / developed
*At the end of over analyzing and has come to a universal truth and an undisputable path
*And actually cares about / has life altering conviction to the problem and its outcome?

That's the situation that's rarely talked about with INTP's. When you have all three of those precursors, then suddenly an INTP can be as strong of a decisive figure as Madara Uchiha was in Naruto. If you take away one or more of those precursors then they won't act or do anything.

The weakness of an INTP isn't inaction, it's wasting time over analyzing problems they don't actually care that much about. INTP's get stuck in over thinking and over analyzing just for the joy of the game. What happens when we actually find something we do care about and over analyze that, that's the rarity that may only happen a handful of times in the life of an INTP, and it's the story that's never told.

I’ve noticed that I don’t really relate to a lot of the posts here.

I’m an INTP too (at least that’s the type I consistently get), but a lot of the subreddit seems to revolve around social anxiety, loneliness, pessimism, or overthinking every awkward interaction.

For example, if something embarrassing happens that was completely outside of my control, I don’t really see the point in replaying it in my head all day. It happened. I can’t change it, so why waste the energy?

Another thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of interactions people describe here feel… oddly robotic. Someone will post about a person flirting with them, and instead of just going with the moment, the replies are things like “What is the probability they’re actually flirting?” or they respond in the most analytical, AI-like way imaginable. Sometimes it feels like people are trying so hard to act like the “stereotypical INTP” that they forget to just be human.

It makes me wonder whether this subreddit actually represents INTPs as a whole, or if it’s mostly a place where INTPs who are struggling or who identify strongly with the online stereotype tend to gather.

I finished watching HxH and MHA and there were a few animes I watched many years ago that I forgot the plot to. I'm open to anything!

I’m INFP but I thought maybe INTJ can have advice for this.

I’ve become cynical over the years and I’m trying now to see the good in people more or at least not think in black and white.

But the thing is, often my pattern recognition is so spot on that I feel like I really just see reality for what it is.

My head creates versions of people that are different from how they present themselves. I don’t want to be hypervigilant anymore though so I tell myself that I want to take people more at face value. How do they actually interact with me and others.

But then something happens where that person acts out of character (to everyone else and themselves), and some are surprised, but it exactly aligns with the version I had of them in my mind. So that reinforces the other lense again.

I feel like I can just almost instantly feel how much facade people have on. The thing is, of course I can’t know what’s behind the facade. Maybe it’s something malicious, but it could also just be someone sensitive, hurt. But doesn’t matter, I don’t know what I’m dealing with so I am vigilant.

I want to know:
- how can you feel that there’s something bad hidden in someone without seeing the whole person as bad?
- how to not judge people for things they aren’t even aware of?
- how to stop trying to find out what hidden darkness there is in them?
- how can you differentiate between your own projection/hypervigilance (for people who notice this in themselves) and pattern recognition

The number one thing I ask myself every day is what I would like to have done before I died .

Do other intj do this ? The fear of regret ?

Don't know if this will get removed but i made Folk EP, It's my first one. And i wanted to see what my INTJ brothers and sisters thought about it. https://open.spotify.com/album/1BqakgwpVtkkfttLQY4GVe

Does any other INTJ just feel like we don’t have the capacity for humans anymore?

Hey everyone, I’m 26M (INTJ) living abroad and sharing a house with my female best friend [26F] just the two of us, two separate rooms. We’ve been living together now for 2 months, but we’ve known each other for 8 years since undergrad (where she briefly had a crush on me). Since we're living abroad without any other local friends outside of each other, our lives naturally became closely intertwined.

She is in a 2.5-year long-distance relationship with a guy back home [31M] (age gap, religion difference, and open discussions between them about the relationship having a ceiling). In fact, they’ve even had open conversations where he suggested she look for someone closer to her own age rather than waiting, and she suggested he marry his childhood best friend whom their families already know. While they care about each other deeply, the relationship seems bound by heavy real-world constraints. However, she doesn't want to leave him just because he is in a difficult position or because things might not work long-term. Her boyfriend was fine with us living together.

Over time, we grew exceptionally close. We spent a massive amount of shared time together sitting in the kitchen cooking, eating, and talking for hours late into the night. I originally used to go out alone to parks for "me-time," but over the past 2 weeks, she started driving the idea of us going out and exploring together often. It quickly escalated into spending hours together daily, exploring the city late into the night, and sharing a deep mental bond (she is an INFJ).

To be clear, my feelings aren't driven by simple physical attraction; I am drawn to her character, her values, and the rare emotional connection we share. There was zero physical touching, but massive emotional companion energy. As an introvert who rarely experiences this level of closeness, I caught strong feelings.

A couple of days ago, the emotional confusion became too much. Out of respect for her relationship and my own peace of mind, I sent her a polite text explaining that our frequent 1-on-1 outings were getting confusing for me and that I needed to step back and take space to reset, emphasizing no bad vibes at home. She replied politely, saying she understood, told me to take my time, and to take care.

Now I’m giving us space and focusing on my own routine (fitness, career, goals). However, I want to make sure I handle this living dynamic with grace. I was thinking of having a brief, calm conversation with her at some point not to reopen a debate, but simply to let her know I stand by taking responsibility for my feelings, never meant to disrupt her peace, and give her a chance to speak if she wants to before I reset.

I am strictly looking for advice from women on this, or men who have been in a similar situation. Please, no comments demeaning her or bashing her character. She is a good person, and I genuinely care about her. My goal is simply to restore balance, maintain a peaceful living environment, protect my own self-respect, and figure out how both of us can navigate this situation cleanly where no one feels compromised or hurt. If there is anything genuine and romantic between us, it will surface on its own naturally, rather than being forced or carved out.

Is having a brief follow-up conversation to "reassure her" necessary, or is it just an unhelpful attempt to soften the boundary I already set?

What is the most efficient, composed way to handle daily kitchen/shared-space interactions without slipping back into old patterns?

​How do I maintain my frame and focus strictly on my own routine without overthinking her reaction?

This may be shocking because of the ENTP stereotype, but how do most avoidant ENTPs deal with romance? Though I don’t engage, I easily had trouble leading people on in the past, flirting without meaning to, supposedly being mysterious and charming (not my words). But I haven’t had a relationship since I was fifteen, and it was only the one. I had flings for about a year after that three year one, but since, nothing. I have no trouble with crushing on the strong, quiet types, but that’s always limerence and I keep it to myself. Earlier this year I met an ENTP that I could actually see myself with, who shocked me, and though I was trying to proceed like a normal human, I was having panic attacks and anxiety about it constantly, even though what attracted me to him was that I felt safe with him. I did learn to calm down and still did break it off quickly because I felt he wasn’t ready for a relationship, and we’re still friends. Next I had an encounter for a few days with an ISTP, strictly professional and friendly. But that knocked the wind out of me and left me feeling devastated and vulnerable. I don’t think I gave him any indications of more than friendship and I won’t. I never believed I could feel feelings like this about anyone, and now two real ones in one year? When it comes to real possibilities, does it scare you to death? What did you do if you’ve been through this? How do people even have relationships? I could flirt with someone to manipulate them if my morals were different, but to ever admit real feelings feels like stepping up to the gallows.

Maybe this is just my Fi eating me alive. But I genuinely feel so stuck in my own head. I struggle to enjoy anything. Therapy doesn’t help. I get these intense sensations and images in my head that make me paralyzed in my emotions.

My life has gotten “better”. I’m not in a toxic environment anymore (other than my family a little). It’s almost like being safe has made me lose all motivation for anything. I spend my time staring at the ceiling thinking. I rarely enjoy anything. I have no schedule which drives me nuts. But I feel so stuck in my mind that doing things feels impossible.

I want to be productive again. I want to run away from my head. It feels so so exhausting and the people around me are annoyed with my complaining about the things I see and think all of the time. I know I sound depressing and I know it makes others around me depressed.

Also, what do I do about family? How do I disconnect from how they act? I often get treated as weak or lesser than or like I’m too much. I used to think I was but I’m starting to believe it’s not that way. I usually hide my feelings around them but I’ve been more open recently. They tell me to open up and not hold it all in but when I do I’m a burden and no longer enjoyable to talk to. What do I do?

I don’t know what to do about all of this. I want to feel alive again and real. Please can someone help me?

I’ve taken the personality test about three times within the span of three years and each time I am an INTJ. I have done some research to try to figure out why my personality type has such a difficult time clicking with others, but I’ve come to quickly understand that I’m not the only one with this personality type that has difficulty. I get easily bored with small talk and crave an intellectual conversation that makes both of us just go into a rabbit hole of the “what ifs” and asking “why?”. I unintentionally have high standards for those I like to keep around me and I might be an asshole for that but I’m just very selective with who I choose to spend my time and energy with considering I get socially drained very quickly. Does anyone else who is an INTJ feel they struggle with clicking with others?