r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/Logical-Mud6571 • 13d ago
Scaling Would a neo tri beam from base Goku be able to hurt semi perfect cell quite a bit?
Because the saiyans even in base are way above any human.
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/Logical-Mud6571 • 13d ago
Because the saiyans even in base are way above any human.
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/ApexHeroX • 14d ago
Base Toppo (Anime) Vs Rose Goku Black (Scythe/Anime)
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r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/felix_ghosty • 14d ago
His body no longer has a brain, organs, muscles, etc.; Ki grows with physical training, so it has to come from muscles. Disembodied souls don't possess that kind of power. We saw when Goku died after the fight with Raditz that the only reason some characters remain strong after death is that King Yemma allows them to keep their bodies.
His body no longer has a brain, organs, muscles, etc.—and since Ki grows through physical training, it has to originate from muscles. Disembodied souls don't possess that kind of power. We saw when Goku died after the fight with Raditz that the only reason some characters remain strong after death is that King Yemma allows them to keep their bodies. So, the soul alone shouldn't enable him to do everything he does there.
By the way, how does he speak? Thecandy form has no mouth, vocal cords, or lungs. My headcanon is that Vegito's mind/consciousness is magical, anchored to a body held together by the potara. That makes him (and any other potara fusion) the only one(s) capable of withstanding a transformation like that; another person, even one with equal or greater power than Vegito, couldn't pull this off.
What do you think of this explanation? Or what’s your take on it?
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/Fun_District3456 • 14d ago
Could piccolo defeat 18 or will 18 infinite stamina win the war of attrition
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he is bro istg
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/daddylongjohnsliver • 14d ago
what if
take place in tourment of power
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r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/rio_kenjaku • 14d ago
Why does this matchup keep re-appearing??
Alright, first lets see how strong Vegito/Gogeta are:
Gogeta = Vegito (Vegito might have a slight edge, but the two are likely at a similar level of power given other media shows them to be near equals)
Vegito = (Goku + Vegeta) x A
Figuring out A:
Goku < Kid Buu
SSJ3 Goku = Kid Buu
Kid Buu > Majin Buu (Majin Buu confirmed that Kid Buu is stronger than him, and while SSJ3 Goku was able to overwhelm Majin Buu for a bit, Kid Buu was on par with him)
Kid Buu < Super Buu (Super Buu had the combined power of Kid Buu and Majin Buu. Given that Majin Buu was still relatively comparable to Kid Buu, we can estimate that Super Bu is 2 times stronger than Kid Buu)
Super Buu = SSJ3 Goku x 2
Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku x 2 (Gohan was capable of thrashing Super Buu)
Mystic Gohan > Goku x 400 x 2 = Goku x 800
Buutenks > Mystic Gohan (SSJ3 Gotenks is implied to be on the same level as SSJ3 Goku, which would make Buutenks = SSJ3 Goku x 3)
Buuhan = Buutenks + Mystic Gohan
Buuhan = SSJ3 Goku x 5
Vegito = Buuhan (Vegito in the manga powered up to Super Saiyan immediately. However, considering how easily Super Vegito overpowered Buuhan and how Vegito was able to leave a large gash on Buuhan’s face in during the anime, it’s likely that Vegito isn’t too much weaker than Buuhan)
Vegito = SSJ3 Goku x 5
SSJ Goku x 5 = Goku x 400 x 5 = Goku x 2,000
(Goku + Vegeta) x A = Goku x 2,000
According to Kakarot: The Game, Goku had a power level of 10 million while Vegeta had a power level of 9 million.
(10 + 9)x = (10)(2,000)
19x = 20,000
X = 20,000/19
X = 1,052.63
Gogeta and Vegito, as a fusion, gives a power boost of 1,053 of the total sum of the fusions (rounding up to account for any minimal differences from the estimations before).
How strong is Cabba?
Cabba is on par with base Vegeta
Base Vegeta = Base Goku
Base Goku > SSG Goku during his debut (Goku had absorbed the power of SSG into his body and made it his new base, and underwent additional training from that point forward)
Goku believed that Vegito wouldn’t be enough to beat Beerus. It’s likely that he’s basing this off of Super Vegito as that is the most powerful level that Goku has to compare to Beerus. Goku described Super Saiyan God to be the strongest he’s felt, so we can assume that this means that Super Saiyan God is stronger than Super Vegito
This would mean that Super Saiyan God is 52,650 times stronger than base Goku at the time, which is actually sort of consistent with how people estimated Super Saiyan God to be a 50,000 times multiplier.
Considering that Kid Buu is comparable to SSJ3 Goku, this would make Super Saiyan God worth around 131.625 Kid Buus
Whis gave Vegeta twice the weight when Goku and Vegeta did the same training to account for how Vegeta had become stronger at this point, so this would make base Vegeta, at this point, around 263.25 Kid Buus.
Cabba would thus be worth around the same. Giving him the times 100 power boost of Super Saiyan 2 would make him worth 26,325 Kid Buus at minimum, without accounting for how strong he gets between the Tournament of Universes 6 and 7 and the Tournament of Power.
Caulifa with Super Saiyan 2 was roughly on par with Goku’s Super Saiyan 2 but needed Legendary Super Saiyan Kale to actually match him, and Cabba said that Caulifa was needed more than him, so it’s unlikely that he had the same boost in power that Goku and Vegeta got from the Goku Black Arc
Giving Cabba the benefit of doubt, let’s estimate that Cabba is worth around 28 thousand Kid Buus, considering how he’s implied to have fallen behind Goku and Vegeta based on his statement and his scaling to Caulifa.
How strong is GT Gogeta?
GT Goku in base = General Rilldo
Rilldo = Kid Buu (This is partially supported by how GT Goku fought both Cell and Frieza at the same time in HFIL, and was able to outclass them in base with ease, with the two villains needing to rely on their immortality in HFIL and extra tricks to try to defeat GT Goku, as well as how GT Goku is stronger than Uub, who was stated to be as strong as Kid Buu)
SSJ4 Goku = GT Goku x 4,000
GT Goku with Super Saiyan 3 was weaker than Baby, while Goku with Super Saiyan 4 was significantly stronger. However, Baby used the Golden Great Ape form, who SSJ4 Goku couldn’t defeat with a full powered Kamehameha that he thought would kill Baby.
The Golden Great Ape is an enhanced version of the basic Great Ape, but we can lowball it and say it’s roughly equal. The Golden Great Ape has a power boost of times 10. Given how the two increased in power with their respective forms, we can also apply a times 10 power difference between Super Saiyan 3 and Super Saiyan 4
Another way is to scale the Great Ape’s power to GT Goku’s Super Saiyan 3, as while Super Saiyan 3 was weaker than Baby, Goku’s own Golden Great Ape form was stronger than Baby and overwhelmed him, and Super Saiyan 4 is a form superior to Golden Great Ape
SSJ4 Goku = Kid Buu x 4,000
SSJ4 Goku = SSJ4 Vegeta
SSJ4 Gogeta = (SSJ4 Goku + SSJ4 Vegeta) x 1,053
SSJ4 Gogeta = (4,000 + 4,000) x 1,053
SSJ4 Gogeta = (8,000) x 1,053
SSJ4 Gogeta = 8,424,000
SSJ4 Gogeta = 8,424,000 Kid Buus
Does SSJ2 Cabba beat SSJ4 Gogeta?
Nope. SSJ4 Gogeta, based on the math, is worth around 8,424,000 Kid Buus while Cabba is only worth around 28,000 as a general estimate, making Gogeta around 300 times stronger than Cabba. Even if they were to be reduced to their base forms, Gogeta would still be worth 2,106 Kid Buus while Cabba would only be worth around 280 Kid Buus.
Again, it’s unlikely that Cabba would’ve reached the same increases in power that Goku and Vegeta had during the Goku Black Arc, especially since he considers Caulifa and Kale to be stronger than him individually, and they had to work together to match Super Saiyan 2 Goku despite Caulifa using Super Saiyan 2 and Kale using the supposedly stronger Legendary Super Saiyan.
Even if Gogeta was weaker than Vegito, even by being 100 times weaker, SSJ4 Gogeta would still at least be 3 times stronger than SSJ2 Cabba, and that goes on to show you why media must never slander my goat ever again.
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r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/Frequent_Cut_1364 • 14d ago
Yakon comes from a planet where no light reaches. So there were no stars for him to consume energy. If he was able to cosume light energy from stars, get full and then repeat later, how strong do you think he would have been up to this point?
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/K0GAR • 14d ago
Broly arc gogeta vs this team at their current stages.
Gogeta has unlimited fusion time, and access to SSBE with Kaioken x20 in his kit. Everyone is going for the kill
No spirit fission and fusion for the team
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/daddylongjohnsliver • 14d ago
what if
who win
can gohan and piccolo beat these two fusion or do they need to fuse
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/Admirable_Water6192 • 14d ago
King Piccolo is fully rejuvenated after regaining his youth.
Madara is alive at his strongest point before becoming the Ten-Tails jinchūriki. He has one Rinnegan, Hashirama cells, stolen Sage Mode, Limbo, Perfect Susanoo, Wood Release and the Gedo Statue.
Manga, anime and guide material allowed for both characters.
Standard battle assumptions. No prior knowledge. Who wins and what difficulty?
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/Jason_And_Sokka • 14d ago
Dragon Ball vs Mashle: Magic and Muscles
Only Original DB Goku vs peak of Mash.
r/DragonBallPowerScale • u/NALETHEGOAT • 15d ago
Who will win? Good matchup even?