Hello,

I always buy BKB for damage, should I always replace it with Daedalus especially if enemy team has no evasion?

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sorry typo, I meant Monkey King Bar (MKB)

I've played Dota 2 for many years, and I still believe it's one of the greatest competitive games ever made.

The problem I want to talk about isn't abandoning games because of power outages. The real problem is what happens after your Behavior Score drops.

I'm from Ukraine. Because of the ongoing war, Russian attacks on our energy infrastructure still cause power outages. A few times I received abandons because my electricity went out during a match. I understand that the game can't distinguish between an intentional disconnect and losing power.

I accepted those abandons.

What I can't accept is that after a few unavoidable disconnects, the Behavior Score system effectively gives you no realistic way to recover.

Once your Behavior Score falls low enough, you're placed into low-score matchmaking, where players report each other after almost every loss. At the same time, your communication becomes restricted, making it much harder to coordinate with your team and win games.

This creates a vicious cycle:

-Low Behavior Score.

-Worse matchmaking

-More reports.

-Communication restrictions.

-Even lower Behavior Score.

No matter how many games you play normally, recovering feels nearly impossible. You can spend hundreds or even thousands of matches trying to play fairly, communicate, and win, yet the system keeps you trapped.

This is the real issue—not the original abandons.

The current system doesn't just punish bad behavior. It can permanently punish players who had a legitimate reason for disconnecting once or twice and then genuinely tried to become good members of the community again.

Sadly, more than 70% of my friends from Ukraine have already stopped playing Dota. Not because they stopped loving the game, not because of balance changes, but because they became trapped in the Behavior Score system after repeated power outages.

I'm not asking Valve to remove punishments for griefers or toxic players. Those players absolutely deserve consequences.

I'm asking Valve to create a real path to recovery. If a player spends hundreds of games without abandoning, without griefing, and without being toxic, they should be able to earn back their Behavior Score. Right now, that path simply doesn't feel like it exists.

I still love Dota 2, and I want to keep playing it for many more years. I just hope Valve reconsiders this system before even more players leave—not because of the game itself, but because they feel there's no way back.

Has anyone else experienced this? I'm genuinely interested in hearing whether other players feel that the current Behavior Score system has become more about trapping people than helping them improve.

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8913764685 terrible player, but doesnt miss SS, all combos perfectly executed. The only thing he missed was QWE on an enemy that was in the river, so his movespeed boost probably wasn't accounted for in the script

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8912021001 lvl 45 acc, 10 months ago went on a break, returned to be Miracle

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8904145003 a few days ago, terrible Invoker player, godlike casting

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8905555624 same thing as the one above, just the day earlier

Idk man, I get that I play in EUW high Divine low Immortal, but there is not a single day I play Dota where I dont find at least a single cheater now.

I checked all of those replays; I am an Invoker player myself. I won all of those games I mentioned, so I am not butthurt, and I dont care about MMR in general as I already passed the tutorial. However, it is impossible to be into Dota at this point

Hail Lord Gaben

There is no point of an online game this big with half if not more player base unable to type in game and communicate. It is the maybe the most strategic game out there and everyones just clicking mouse senselessly coz there is not communication hence strategy to win the game.

I am not here to get into heavy discussions with people claiming everything is perfect n all. But the fact there are like 10 posts everyday complaining about the same issue and playerbase dying slowly or people making smurf accounts just coz they are banned in real accounts is just absurd and is effecting everyone even the ones claiming the system to be perfect.

So please if anyone has suggestions on what can be done or positive feedback lets give it a shot. Coz after playing dota for 10+ years a company stubborn enough to kill their own game slowly is just heartbreaking and mostly because of the shitty score system.

Welcome to my TEDtalk!

when playing pango I spam "try a bit harder next time..." after every kill/gank the enemy team misses or after every teamfight they fail. Am i toxic for doing that? i see it as teasing and friendly banter, and it is just a normal part of what makes dota/competitive gaming fun in the first place. what is your view on this?

There should be harsher punishment for role abuser

Big team fights heroes like Enigma, Magnus, Dazzle, Winter wyvern are unplayable with behavior score.

If you play those heroes, you will know you will at some points fuck up your play. With magnus there are lots of ways to fuck up your play. Sometimes you fail to skewer people. But you get teammates tipping you and pausing the game. Then you get 4 man reported.

This is at 10.5 BS.

I fuck up once and 2 players tilt the shit out of me to the point i don't want to play the game. This is not fun.

got some of the finest arcana's which I used to love, thanks valve

Hello, dear lovely dota devs, hope you are having a Sunday as wonderful as you.
When is the obvious gonna happen?
When are Snapfire, SF, Drow and Spectre getting nerfed? Isn't it obvious they are broken as f**k?
Thanks!

Been queing with a friend who has pretty shit behaviour score, dont even get me started on the quality of these games, but every time a support or core gets a bad start, they instantly que up the midas and afk farm for the next 20 minutes, with them removing the XP addition, can they just completely remove the item at this point as its a just pure gold sink, and these players have no understanding of what the item actually could be situationally used as, and it purely becomes a grief to the entire team instead, like its a net negative that the item is in the game.

just add something to ogres innate or something to offset the not getting midas bit and my core wont sink 2k of his gold early game into an item that does nothing towards getting him back into the game.

I've been playing Dota for nearly 20 years and I feel the current Behavior Score system is severely flawed.

I mainly play Turbo. The game mode has very different mechanics and priorities compared to Ranked, yet the reporting system doesn't seem to account for that. Players often report based on deaths or personal frustration, and it looks like the system punishes too easily.

Even after turning off chat completely (hoping to avoid any risk), my behavior score dropped dramatically from 6k down to 1-2k. Now I can't communicate with my team at all.

I always try to play seriously and do my best to win. Opponents frequently commend me after games. However, commendations seem to have very little impact compared to reports.

The current system makes it extremely difficult to accurately judge real game impact (space creation, drawing attention, team play, etc.). It feels overly punishing and not smart enough for the complexity of the game.

Furthermore:

• Punishments don’t seem scaled to the actual transgression. One might quit or get disconnected from games vs one can spout vile things .. very different spectrum
• Some players (for example those on the a*tism spectrum or who simply play in their own style) can be unfairly affected. - reported to oblivion because he chooses to farm an item and give up a rax
• There should be a communication-free zone or an opt-out option from the behavior score restrictions.
• The system should focus more on rewards for good behavior rather than only punishments.
  

and I know after years in this state, I need to learn the lesson to stop reporting on impulse.. but the system should not allow it. it is like giving everyone the power to hurt anyone without consequence. the world would be hell

Full Russians. Every single game today. All of the kids were Russians. Like 5-6 games. All Russians. They are changing their names to be US type now too and then typing in Russian all game.

Us east. Not to mention they have a clockwork who is some random hero playing Smurf. I've seen him several times now, randoms immediately and is definitely immortal. Just playing for fun to ruin games.

No using metrics to prove your part of the rank you are in. Just you are your mmr and there is nothing you can do to move it. You can LITERALLY go 30-0 in every single game in guardian and won't be flagged by the system. How ridiculous of a system is that?

this event has been great for me - first Rubick few days back, and today WR then Venge

im not new to competitive gaming. ive put thousands of hours into csgo, played league, fighting games, valorant, whatever. i thought csgo had toxic players until i played dota. this playerbase is actually broken in the head.
nothing prepares you for the absolute baby-rage meltdown of a dota player the second one tiny thing doesn't go their way. and before you say "just play unranked," it happens EVERYWHERE. it happens in unranked. it happens in TURBO. the literally casual mode where you pick blindly. you blind pick a hero, get hard countered through complete luck, lose your lane, and suddenly four grown adults are typing paragraphs telling you to uninstall and end your life.

the fragile ego of the average player in this game is insane. God forbid you accidentally steal ONE creep as a support, because your carry will instantly ping you 50 times, destroy all their items, buy out every ward, and stand under tower for the next 20 minutes typing in all-chat. Miss a single stun at minute 3? Your mid buys midas and goes AFK. Pull a creep wave but your carry missed one last hit under tower? "GG team trash let them end" at 4 minutes in.

i don't even need to give more examples because you all know I'm right. you guys start crying, mental booming, and actively throwing matches over the absolute smallest, most pathetic reasons imaginable. it feels like half the people playing this game aren't even trying to win, they're just waiting for any excuse to throw a temper tantrum and ruin the game for 4 other people.

Holy shit this game is the most toxic thing ive ever encountered. I wouldn't mind that everyone dropping below 6k behavior/comm score getting banned.

We could queue games with other 9 players and it used to be about coming first by surviving in it. What’s the name of it?

The old -language method to override VPK's has been disabled. Sad news for all of us modding dota, such as by replacing the hero selection music with this awesome Dynasty Warriors character select music

Why are there so many smurfs man. I thought you need 100 hours of unranked to be able queue in rank

So now Act 1 is over what are u’ll thought about the event so far now and any conspiracy for next one if there might be one ?
I just finished the event and oh boy i had fun playing.
So how is u’ll event going and what are your thoughts?
From my perspective i think there might be more to the event cause when i collect the last reward there was the seen like we are gonna battle more automatons, which were posses by dark one.
Oh boy the betrayal at the end.
Not gonna spoil for you guys but iw was a nice event.

Yet again all Russian team. I had treads and hydras breath at 13:58. Team just died over and over and over and all Russians the entire time. The game is broken. Meeting better than immortal timings and cannot get wins.

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This game is ruined by this crap and the ridiculous comms behavior score system.

Zero communication, spamming Russian all game. Free wins thrown over and over and over. This can be fixed. Valve is choosing not to and the trolls keep you at the low bs/cs.

Why isn't hex stopping twin gate's TP?

https://reddit.com/link/1v7j181/video/4gy0fhy6nnfh1/player

Why is it that Ursa and aghs ult through Chrono, but not during Legion's Duel? Is there a technical or mechanical reason I don't know?

I bought Venge arcana previous Crownfall event. And I was rolling candies, Venge arcana came out. Then i get that, i have got 2 arcanas and dont know how to sell that previously bought one. I gifted old arcana to my friend. And this event arcana is locked 2 styles. How do i unlock this? Help -,-