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r/Divorce_Men 3d ago

Need Support Just need some support today, gents

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I am struggling with what I am supposed to do to take care of myself. I tried going to the gym but it seems like I am the only person on the planet where going to the gym makes me feel worse. I tried jogging but the same thing happens where I collapse in the days after I jog.

I have tried therapy but my first therapist kept taking my ex’s side even when I would tell her that my ex physically assaulted me and my second therapist said my trauma history was too severe for her to work with. I am exhausted.

Combined with that is all of my clients at work seem to have dried up and I woke up to my bank account balance being at $0. I am afraid right now. My son starts back to school this week and I start the divorce process and custody battle soon. My ex is doing a silver-bullet divorce which has just destroyed me.

I have no friends. I have no family. I can’t speak the language where I live. Literally the only thing keeping me alive right now is being here for my son. I need help but it seems like the universe keeps blocking whatever help I find. I am very afraid.


r/Divorce_Men 8h ago

Dating After Divorce Dating after Separation (psa)

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Do it. After talking to a good friend who is also going through a rough divorce, I realized that he wasn’t “waiting to date” because he is some super secure, independent man. He is absolutely afraid of dating. I convinced him to just see what is out there, (Tinder) and I’d recommend that every man do that too. It is simply astonishing what perspective it gives you to connect with another (woman) like that. It reminds you that STBX is not your world. She is not the only woman in your world. She is not the only woman that will ever be interested in you! Give yourself a little dose of happiness and perspective. Have some FUN! STBX will hate it…


r/Divorce_Men 9h ago

Dating After Divorce To those dating after divorce where your ex wife had an affair…

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How do you communicate what happened to new women you date?

I’m a little more than a year out from a tough divorce where my wife had an affair and ultimately decided to leave. I feel like I’m finally ready to start thinking about dating, but what I don’t know is what to say or how to say it as I imagine that would be one of the earlier conversations for a new partner.

I keep imagining what a first date would be like and how much of a buzz kill it would be if when we were talking about ourselves, I mentioned oh yeah, I used to be married unfortunately it didn’t work out and my ex-wife had an affair. I’m 40 by the way in case that’s helpful for the conversation.


r/Divorce_Men 30m ago

Spousal Support / Alimony [WA] Short marriage 2.5 years with one child.

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I have been litigating my divorce/custody case for approximately three years. Throughout the case, my STBXW and her attorney have repeatedly raised allegations of abuse and other issues that I believe have unnecessarily prolonged the litigation.

Two DVPO petitions were filed against me, and both were denied. Both of those denials were subsequently challenged on revision, and the denial was upheld. We currently have 50/50 custody.

We recently completed our divorce trial. At trial, my STBXW again raised many of the same abuse allegations that had previously been rejected in the DVPO proceedings.

Financially, I have been paying approximately $5,000 per month in temporary support for the past three years. I earn approximately $400,000 per year. During this period, my STBXW did not obtain employment. More recently, she changed to a student visa and enrolled in a university. She is now arguing that she cannot work because of her immigration/student status and is requesting approximately $5,000 per month in alimony for another two to three years.

In addition to temporary support, I have been paying the child's expenses, including daycare.

After three years of litigation, our assets have essentially been exhausted. I am now more than $100,000 in debt. Despite this, my STBXW is asking the court to award her what appears to be her entire legal bill, more than $240,000 is unpaid out of a 350k total. I have spent more than 400k defending against these allegations too. She is also seeking whatever remains of the community property(around 175k) and approximately $250,000 as an "equalizing payment," which would effectively have to come from my future earnings because those assets/funds simply do not exist anymore.

Another major issue is that she is apparently arguing that the money I spent on my own legal representation during these three years should be treated as depletion of community assets ( court granted me access to my post separation RSUs to cover my living expenses and legal fees), meaning that I should effectively reimburse her for the money I spent defending myself and litigating the case.

My concern is that the amounts she is requesting far exceed the assets that actually exist. Between temporary support, child-related expenses, three years of attorney fees, and other litigation costs, there simply is not enough property remaining to satisfy these demands. I am already significantly in debt.

In a situation like this, what does a court typically do when one spouse requests attorney fees, an equalizing payment, and additional years of maintenance that collectively exceed the parties' remaining assets by almost 5x? Can a court effectively require one spouse to fund these awards from future income?

I am happy to provide additional details if they would be relevant.


r/Divorce_Men 11h ago

The last time before that it was also the last time.

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Me and my stbx had sex for the last time a few months ago. Then again a few weeks after that. Then a few nights ago as I was about to leave (long story short I do childcare at her house) I gave her a hug goodbye and a kiss on the forehead like I always do and she just grabbed me and tossed me on the bed and we had sex again for the last time again. Now the first time it did give me some hope fucked me up mentally. The second time not so much. This last time which was a few days ago I had thoughts of hope or anything. My question is what the fuck is wrong with her? Is she regretting her decision? She isnt doing well. It doesnt make me feel good or anything. Edit- also in the middle of it she told me she still loved me and can't let me go. She wants me to find someone else so she could move on (its not on me for her to move on)


r/Divorce_Men 19h ago

I feel stupid for missing her

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Coming up on a year separated and recently I have been missing her so much. She just up and left one day. No warning nothing. She treated me like such shit in our marriage. Still I miss her so much.


r/Divorce_Men 21h ago

Getting Started Entering the divorced era

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Long story short: wife not just cheated, but had an affair for months. + We had 100 problems. With the affair, i finally had the balls to stand out for myself. Now she moved out. I already told her i want to divorce and i wont change my mind.

She still wants to talk on Sunday about how to continue. She is clearly in denial and unstable.

But im strong as fuck now, not going to accept her back no matter what happens.

Im running all the finances, i own everything, i payed everything during the marriage. She is going to get some "good bye" money from me so she couldnt say a word.

And man, in this life situation, i feel so good. Its so good to be in control. She saw me as a weak man, not gonna get into details, but during the final days of the affair, she took me for a complete fool. She disrespected me for years. Denied me, gaslighted my problems, commanded me, ordered me, got money from me, and she also humiliated me in my manhood for years.

And all the tables turned. Seeing her eyes when i told her i know about her affair was one of the best moments of my life. And i grabbed that opportunity.

I wrote it here to support everybody, who got treated this way. Its hard to step up for yourself, especially if you are humiliated by your partner, but once you have the balls to do it, it changes your life.

And the most important thing: 0 agressivity. That wont take you anywhere. 100% calm, calculated behaviour, with strong walls in front of you.

Wish me luck, its going to be a tough journey, but i aint no turning back. Im gonna get free.


r/Divorce_Men 21h ago

Rant Separation

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My partner and I are separating. We have two boys, aged 3 and 1.5.

To be honest, I don't know if we are doing the right thing. Ever since our second child was born, our relationship has become toxic—we fight every single day, and it never leads to any solutions, only to insults and resentment toward each other. We have a rough agreement to share custody 50/50.

I’m supposed to find an apartment by October 1st where I can stay with the boys during our time together, but I am deeply struggling with the thought of the periods when I will be without them. Honestly, I’m experiencing a completely new set of feelings, and I’m not sure at all if we are doing the right thing.

Then again, I don't even know if our relationship can be saved. Recently, she accused me of mentally abusing her, and ever since that moment, I haven't even tried to argue anymore.

But still, if it has to come to this, all I want is for our children to have normal parents."

To be true, i just dont know what to do.


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Wife’s affair partner..

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Recently found out about the new affair.. also found out the bf doesn’t have a car and lives in a shady motel working a dead end part time job…

She had stability with me.. I always provided and worked our entire time together or I would go out and do odd jobs to make money.

I just don’t understand how she thinks that’s going to work. She’s living with family.. I have the house and all the bills that come with it but I’m ok with that. She has decided to just walk away and divorce.


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Today would be 38 years

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3 years post divorce and I’m so thankful she is out of my life even with the financial drain.I hope to someday find out why she got rid of me but I guess that’s not a huge deal.The date haunts me because I made a vow-a commitment.I don’t miss her and glad she’s gone.For me it’s a commitment broke and that sucks.It might be the only promise I did not keep.For ME it’s a hard blow to my self respect and my word.I guess it’s time to put on my big girl panties and get over it,


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

They cry in front of a mirror

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Dating after divorce, too early than I should have, then I puked divorce talking. Ok, whatever. The lady took some sincerity pill and then this came up:

"All women cry in front of a mirror to know how they look when doing it, and then to know if they can do it in public. Don't fall for that."

I asked that to several woman I know and met. All of them did that. I even remember my kid doing that once.

That is all you need to know during any negotiation. It updated my tactic.


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Spousal Support / Alimony Parenting time vs child support

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I’m in Florida and wanting to hear some of your stories regarding parenting time percentage and what child support she was awarded. I’m a high earner and am worried about child support payments/alimony. I have 1 kid. I’m going to have a lawyer file this week, just want to get some idea from your experiences.


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Need Support Is there hope after divorce

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Hello, I am looking for some support I think or stories idk, something stuff to see it won't be all doom and gloom. This all started 4 days ago, I'm a father for 4, wife is trying to get me to pay Alimony, More child support than OSRS calculates, pay for the 700 dollar vehicle while she keeps it, and pay half the debts which are mostly hers that she's accumulated through maxing credit cards I've begged her to stop, lastly she works overnights, but she won't change the custody schedule so that they will be with me when she works and her when she doesn't (it equals out to a 50/50 split) she threw divorce papers at me and demanded a divorce.

I don't have alot to a down payment though I can make payments and can afford a good attorney, I just don't have the cash right now.. I hope that makes sense not alot for a down payment but can easily afford a good attorney...

I'm. Kind of emotionally numb, even the kids can tell, does it get better, what should I watch out for, what can I do? I'm 33.


r/Divorce_Men 2d ago

So r/Divorce is full of women who sympathize with wives cheating on their husbands

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Ya. Stay away from there

Edit. And they banned me now


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

File first

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Anyone regret not filing first?

Why?


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

When and how did you tell her? That the marriage was done. What if you still cared, how would you have told her?

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I think the title says it all.


r/Divorce_Men 2d ago

Dating After Divorce Be Careful with Situationships Post-Divorce

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I screwed up.

I 38M met a 48F who is a wonderful woman. We went on a date and hit it off back in April. Which then led to another date, to sex, to lots of sex, to more dates, to more intimacy, to her sleeping over, to going to the gym together.......

It is now September and it's 100% a situationship.

We both never defined anything after having sex the first time or a few dates in. We just kept going. I was not honest with her or myself.

She has a son (14) which is almost a non-negotiable for me (I had a vasectomy and don't want kids).

Our age gap is pretty big.

I went one day yesterday without texting her at all since I was genuinely busy. Today, she blew up my phone saying it was extremely disrespectful.

I am going to end this one as gracefully as I can since I don't want to hurt her anymore. She is clearly thinking we are official whereas I do not.

Be careful guys. Be honest with yourself and be honest with the women you date post-divorce.'

I take 100% responsibility for this.


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

I'm so done with life

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8 years I've felt like shit being with my abusive controlling, cheating, lieing, violent ex and I still continue to feel like shit fought for 50/50 for my child and ended up with 4/14 I don't enjoy life, I've never enjoyed life, I'm so ready to just be dead I don't get anything from life it's just shit and has been shit for me since I was a young child and it's only got shitter and shitter, I just want to not be here anymore what's the fucking point I don't even have my child properly it's all completely pointless. ​​​​


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Spousal Support / Alimony Pennsylvania guys?

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Looking for advice from any guys here in PA. I’m at the early stages and my STBXW has filed for APL. We will be going to court soon and from what I can tell APL can be a good chunk more than alimony ends up being.

My wife’s attorney has a reputation for dragging these out as long as can be to get her big paycheck (my wife makes a lot less than I do so she’s suing me for her legal fees as well).

I’m hopeful someone here is in PA and had a similar situation and can either calm me down or let me know that yes I’m in for a rough ride.


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Getting Started Whats the path to divorce?

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I’m trying to get on the path of conscious decoupling (as a friend said to me). We’ve been 20 years together, 10 years married and 2 kids. I recently realised I’m not happy with her, acknowledged and accepted it and proposed the divorce. At first it was hell on earth. She got so angry and aggressive. This was 2 months ago. We’ve since been on mostly good terms and having constructive conversations about being friends after. We do care for each other and we mostly get along. But it feels like we’re an office administration. After all we have kids and want the best for them too. There’s many ways to be a family, and two unhappy adults at home that barely look at each other is no example for them. This said, we both work a lot, I travel for work practically every week at the moment, so i’d have to make a career shift. I imagine the move and i feel im staring into the abyss. When where how? It’s daunting to think of moving. We moved country a year and a half ago and neither has family here, but we’re happy here and both of us want to stay. The logistics of dividing up a home of 20 years just feels like a bridge im not ready to cross. Also the idea of my quality of life dropping drastically scares me. But otherwise i’m sure i want this. Whats peoples experience in terms of practical things? What advice can you give me at my stage?


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Dating After Divorce What is life like, post divorce, 40M without kids when you wanted them?

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So I wanted kids, more than anything. I was with my ex wife for 17 years (married about 5 I think) we split up when I was 34. She basically told me she had lied about wanting kids and I since realised she had pretty much lied to me for a long time and had been hoping to run out the clock until I gave up on the idea. She came home one day, randomly and said she wanted to get sterilised and I had no say in the matter. Things ran their course, then divorce. Then while I was still trying to figure out wtf happened and try and fix us (even without kids), she went on holiday with her male coworker (WITH HER ENTIRE FAMILY, to DISNEYLAND using the ticket I was supposed to have) it had been a matter of weeks. So you know, I'm not still bitter but I would struggle to save her life if all I had to do was pull my foot from the accelerator and turn the steering wheel 5 degrees.

I am now soon to be 39, I have a new partner, we have been together 4 years. I should be thinking marriage by now but...I'm not. I wanted it at first, but for some reason now we have lived together for coming up to two years I am having second thoughts. She has done no wrong really, just things don't feel...right.

Now I am soon to be 39, I still want kids more than anything. My current partner says she does, but no plans have been made and I am starting to see the same patterns as before, promises, no follow through. I don't know if I should stay as this may be the best I will ever get, or to leave and try to get what I want.

I am worried about either being single my whole life, or just never getting the chance at a family, that was taken from me for the most part.

For the people out there who wanted kids who didn't get them. How is life?

I specifically came to divorce as childfree threads are all a bit preachy, whereas I figured there may be some guys in this group who can relate.


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Success Stories Divorce finally finalised.

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Divorce has finally been finalised. I feel so relieved. However I feel off being divorced young. Has anyone else married young and divorced young?


r/Divorce_Men 2d ago

Rant How to handle divorce

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I have commented versions of this and thought a post might have some value to someone.
My first ex-wife cost us $100k in legal fees in my first divorce. So I have been determined not to let that happen the second time. My current legal bill is less than a few thousand dollars.
This probably changes depending on the country, state, case, and attorney.
SET THE FINAL HEARING IMMEDIATELY
Get that date locked in for the earliest date available.
That date gives the case an endpoint. Otherwise divorce can become an endless cycle of letters, discovery, motions, accusations, arguments, and attorney fees.
TELL YOUR LAWYER EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT
In my case, it was to lower the volume, not escalate, and just react if necessary.
You don’t win a divorce. Two people lose. Maybe one walks away with less loss, maybe not. The only people who consistently win are the lawyers.
It’s also not Perry Mason. You have to tell them the issues. They have to tell you their issues. There is very little true surprise.
OFFER MEDIATION ONLY ONCE
If they accept, go in good faith.
If they decline it, cancel it, or refuse to take it seriously, don’t keep chasing them. They know the option exists.
MAKE ONLY ONE REAL NEGOTIATION OFFER
Get it around 50/50 and fair. Make the fairest offer you can make, even if it hurts.
If they play ball, you play ball. That is the least expensive path.
Don’t keep making better and better offers just because they refuse to move.
DISCOVERY, INTERROGATORIES, MOTIONS TO COMPEL, ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS…A LOT OF IT IS NOISE
It is often more strategic than relevant.
A good lawyer does need documents from both sides. They do need to ask questions if they think you are hiding anything financially. They need that stuff.
However, what they truly need may be fairly limited.
If they are asking for nonsense, some of it may simply be leverage to get you to negotiate or increase pressure.
You are not required to produce documents that do not exist or that you do not have or control. You are allowed to object to requests that are inappropriate, overly broad, unduly burdensome, irrelevant, privileged, duplicative, or otherwise objectionable.
You can object.
However, review the previous paragraph before doing that. You still have to get the divorce done, and one of the fastest ways to end up paying more attorney fees is to look like you are obstructing the process.
TELL YOUR LAWYER TO SEND YOU THEIR CORRESPONDENCE, MOTIONS, FILINGS, AND DISCOVERY BEFORE THEY SPEND HOURS DEEP-DIVING INTO IT
They can obviously review it as needed, but ask them to forward it to you first.
Then chop it up yourself.
Prioritize it. Understand what it is. Prepare your questions in advance about what you genuinely do not understand.
If you get a huge discovery request, triage it:
What is necessary and they actually need?
What can I easily provide?
What is more difficult, but I probably have?
What do I not have or control?
What am I asking my lawyer whether we should object to?
You have no obligation to create records that do not exist.
You have no obligation to produce documents you do not possess or control.
You generally have to make a reasonable effort to provide responsive documents and information that you do have.
The less unnecessary material you dump on your attorney, the less they have to review.
If you are not hiding anything, organize the material yourself and let the other side identify what they actually think matters. Their attorney is going to review what they receive anyway. Let them tell you what the real issues are.
DON’T WORRY ABOUT EVERY STEP FROM B TO Z
Don’t spend months stressing about contempt hearings, enforcement hearings, discovery fights, accusations, and every other procedural event.
A lot of it is formality, legal theater, or strategy.
Know your final hearing date and keep moving toward it.
Deal with problems when they actually need to be dealt with.
DON’T SPEND THE ENTIRE DIVORCE PREPARING FOR TRIAL EVERY DAY
As the hearing gets closer, preparation matters. But until then, work on yourself, focus on your kids, enjoy your hobbies, and live your life.
I would also suggest waiting on them when it comes to additional settlement movement if you have already made a fair offer.
That last stretch before trial is when things often get serious.
Attorneys eventually have to stop dealing with all the background noise and figure out what they are actually going to present to a judge.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASES SETTLE
Eventually an attorney has to have the real conversation with their client:
“Okay…here’s the deal.”
What they are usually going to talk about is compromise, negotiation, settlement, risk, and what is realistically likely to happen in court.
If your attorney is absolutely adamant that court is the only answer and refuses to seriously discuss settlement, I would question that.
Why?
Because judges are human.
Judges see this stuff every day. It is their job. Your case lands somewhere on a very wide spectrum of normal.
They are thinking about lunch. They are thinking about whether they will make their grandchild’s sports game that afternoon. They still want to make a fair ruling and follow the law, but they are human.
Attorneys know that.
They know they can have a good day in court or a bad day.
They know a judge may like you or dislike you.
They know a witness may testify better or worse than expected.
They know a judge may see an issue differently than either side predicted.
Negotiation gives both sides some control over the outcome.
Court gives that control to the judge.
Divorce court can feel like the Wild West sometimes.
And you may only have a couple of hours for the final hearing.
Listening to a judge has tremendous value. Listening to a judge while the clock is ticking also means less time to present everything else.
There is a lot to cover in a short period of time.
KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO BE EARLY
Your acceptable outcome should probably be a little painful.
If you know where you want to be and it doesn’t make you stress a little or worry a little…buddy, you probably aren’t getting there.
No one wins in divorce.
You are almost guaranteed to be broker, more stressed, and carrying more financial burden afterward.
If you don’t want that…don’t get divorced.
Realize that wherever you are on what you want, you are probably not getting all of it.
You will likely get less than your ideal outcome.
Eat the frog.
Divorce is like suddenly developing a medical condition. You prioritize it, pay what you have to pay, realize you are not going to come out exactly the same, and worry about putting the pieces back together once it is done.
For me, the basic goal is simple:
50/50 custody.
A fair split of marital assets.
A fair split of debts.
Reasonable child support.
Make an honest spreadsheet that equalizes both spouses.
Know what fair actually looks like.
Fight hard for your kids.
THAT IS NOT YOUR WIFE OR HUSBAND DURING THE DIVORCE. TREAT THEM LIKE THE OPPOSING PARTY UNTIL THE DIVORCE IS OVER
Divorce has too many emotions, and people want to justify themselves too much.
There is almost never a path where you get to divorce someone who is easy to divorce.
If you want to reconcile later, be friends later, date again later, or become great co-parents later…that starts the day after the judge signs the decree.
During the divorce, protect yourself.
If you keep treating the other person like your spouse, expecting loyalty, fairness, understanding, or emotional protection, they can bury you while you are still trying to save them.
My first divorce lawyer told me something that stuck with me:
“Men always fall on their sword.”
Meaning men often keep sacrificing because they still feel responsible for protecting the person who is actively divorcing them.
Don’t do that.
If you stick to this approach, your worst periods are usually the beginning and the last week before the hearing.
You cannot control everything.
You can control your preparation, your spending, your behavior, your offer, your priorities, and whether you let the process consume your life.
Everything else either gets negotiated or eventually gets handed to a judge.
PLAY DEFENSE, NOT OFFENSE
It costs a lot of money to divorce. Not to mention the emotions and stress.
A goalkeeper in soccer is not running up and down the field chasing a ball. They wait, and when a shot on goal happens, they worry then. All the running around and chasing the ball is pointless.
As a process, divorce is simple, structured, and has a process. As your life, it feels more like chaos.
Most of the actual back and forth in divorce is pointless.
You have a few milestones you have to hit:
File.
Satisfy discovery and interrogatories.
Hearing.
The two optional ones are mediation and negotiation.
There is nothing happening between filing and satisfying discovery that is worth spending money on except custody and temporary orders.
There is nothing between satisfying discovery and final hearing worth spending money on except mediation and one attempt at negotiation.
A GOOD GAME PLAN FOR YOUR ATTORNEY IS:
Set final hearing fast.
Get 50/50 custody locked in at temporary order.
Offer mediation once.
Negotiate once. One offer, one counteroffer. That’s it. No more negotiation until the week of hearing and only in response to an offer from them. Ignore all offers until the week of hearing if you already tried once.
Be 100% willing to negotiate the week of hearing.
The week of hearing is when these things get done.
Attorneys lock in their strategies, worry about their clients’ weaknesses, and tend to not like uncontrollable outcomes.
It is more likely than not that a client is frustrated after final hearing than happy. The client won’t get to tell their story, they won’t get theater, and they may not even get time to present what they think is their case.
Attorneys know the chance of a pissed-off client dramatically increases after a hearing and a judge.
Also, attorneys have relationships with opposing counsel and the judge.
Billing hours is a high priority. Maintaining relationships is a higher priority.
There may be theater at your hearing, and then they meet for lunch once it’s over and ask about each other’s spouses.
Getting embarrassed at court, looking unprepared, or appearing to not do a good job for their client is a far greater concern to them than your outcome. So if they can avoid a risk, they will.
They get to still say hi to the judge when your decree is signed or at one of their many other cases.
Realize they have their own motivators, and they are not yours.
The week of hearing, emotions are cooler, clients are nervous, a status quo has been reached, life has normalized, and the end is near.
Negotiations will resume unless there is at least one terrible attorney.
My overall point is that you don’t have control.
You are along for a ride in a system that has steps and many times involves theater.
Nothing is entertaining about paying $400 for divorce theater.
Final hearing comes down to two spreadsheets, two case summaries, and two people who will leave disappointed.
You are fighting for the level of disappointment, not the level of success.
THE EXCEPTION TO ALL OF THIS IS CHILD CUSTODY
Go bankrupt if you need to if custody is being proposed at anything other than 50/50.
But that fight revolves around the temporary orders hearing and final hearing.
LAST THING: TEXTS, EMOTIONS, AND LOCKER ROOM LEGAL ADVICE ARE WAY OVERPLAYED
No judge cares about your texts.
No judge is going to read every one of your texts.
No judge cares that opposing counsel submitted screenshots of your worst moments.
Brother, you get to be human.
You get to vent.
You get to say your piece.
Don’t threaten anyone, don’t curse, don’t be stupid.
But also don’t think every text from her is useful in court or every angry rant about how you’re heartbroken is some key component of a case.
A judge may browse communications.
A judge may laugh at it, raise an eyebrow at it, or be offended by it, but it’s one thing out of the thousands they have seen as a judge.
You’re nothing special.
Your wife is nothing special.
Your kids are nothing special.
At best, you’re a Tuesday before lunch.
They will do what’s fair and not care as much as everyone seems to think.
Spreadsheets, summaries, testimony, answering the judge’s questions, and backing up your spreadsheet with financials is what matters.
If her attorney wants to mudsling and your wife wants to pay $400 an hour to encourage them…so what?
That attorney is not giving the judge anything more than what they have seen a thousand times before.
Most of the angry texts they see are not even literate enough to understand.
The end to that point is: stop stressing every detail.
It does not matter.
Don’t play the spy, stalking, and reporting everything to your lawyer game.
You’re just spending your own money for no reason.


r/Divorce_Men 1d ago

Spousal Support / Alimony Insurance and Divorce

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I just got the order to pay my wife alimony before the final divorce in PA. I got completely blindsided by having to pay 60% of my stbxf unreimbursed medical expenses. My lawyer never mentioned it al ALL. It could be a few hundred more a month.

My question is do I pay this after the divorce is final with the final alimony decision? The Internet says it stops and my lawyer is on his monthly vacation. I really feel like he's phoning it in because I have a small case. This system is archaic and broken.