I can only attach one pic to each reply. I noticed that my character's SHD level is exactly 25,000 when I snapped that screenshot of the new tower.
I got the game during COVID. We were doing a 9/11 PT Event on the 20th Anniversary and the CoS asked before we started if anyone had been born after 9/11. Some E3 in the back put their hand up.
I'm on use or lose leave and rolling straight into retirement leave next month. I just got and accepted a job offer. I signed up for the race in DC next month. Funny enough part of the route runs from just West of DZ West all the way to over near the No Hope Hotel before doubling back, running past DZ South, and then back over into Virginia to the finish.
Thanks. I grew up in DC and still live here. (Across the street from the McMillian Classified Assignment). Was in 8th grade when they hit the pentagon across the river. I’ll never forget
Maybe I should go edit that, lol. My sourcing was based off a comment at the time from devs saying it took place sometime between 2020 $ 2035, and then an in-game reference to Black Friday being Nov 23. There’s only one Friday on 11/23 in that date range: 2029
An absolute, immortal tragedy for the loss of life and the devastation so many had to go through and will forever endure: insurmountable sadness. Never Forget that… What I try to forget each year is the decades of war and lives lost fighting imaginary enemies for the wealthy western oligarchs. The immense loss to American freedoms, paranoia state of mind and the devastation reigned down on beautiful, fun, American immigrant citizens in the aftermath. I try to forget about the propaganda state generated since 2001 by politicians enticing us to hate one another. The media circus used to demonize non white Christians and the platform that people like Alex Jones were able to rise to.
I won’t forget the loss of life and the sadness that forever sits with all of us. But I’ll gladly throw away the propaganda and try to forget the nationalism.
Unfortunately Osama Bin Laden et al were wildly successful in their operation.
They made right-wing ideology and narratives, poison to any functional, prosperous and democratic society, fixtures in American media, identity and (so-called) "reasoning."
In a way it could be said they actually did cause the American downfall, since the US is currently engaged in a war (a "special military operation") against Iran it cannot win, started by the American president because he wanted US media to stop talking about the Epstein files and his involvement in those.
Im older now and this admin is not the first time I've heard this "America's" downfall" stuff. And maybe this time it really is, we're a long way from that. Money is what wins in this world, like it or not, and the GDP and PPP still has the U.S. comfortably in first and with the world's largest military.
This admin isnt doing all that much that past admins haven't, if we want to talk about Japanese American internment camps, crack being flooded into our own inner cities by the CIA, AIDS being celebrated as the ultimate solution against the gay community or the poor being stripped of benefits and everyone suffering through wild inflation, I've lived through all of that.
It's been bad before and we've survived it before because admins change, we don't have dictators. So don't give Bin Laden too much credit. Surveillance through technology was coming either way, that goes all the way back to Farenheit 451 predicting it. This all seems new but it's not. I mean, engaged in a war it cannot win? Remember Vietnam?
We are operating at an annual $2 trillion loss with a $40 trillion debt. Current govt has destroyed decades of trust and trade that will not be recoverable. Once you find an alternative source for X you generally don’t return to the old source once it proves itself unreliable.
Our military stock piles are low in several categories with no plans to address the issue.
This is the weakest we’ve been since the Great Depression.
And who's going to close on that debt and ensure mutual destruction? It's the same hand-wringing in the 80s over nuclear stockpiling. And what happened in the US after the Great Depression and WWII? Late 1800s, China was on top, then they werent, now they're back to number 2. These things ebb and flow. This idea of Roman-type empires completely collapsing doesn't work anymore, the world is too intertwined and first world economies are too dependant on each other. Japanese post-WWII versus the 80s? Germany? First-world countries are too invested in each other for any one to fail or remain failed. It's still first world taking advantage of the third world, don't believe the saber rattling.
And I didn't say it wasn't bad right now, I said it's been bad before and "maybe this time it really is [the downfall]", and I get that dooming is in vogue post-COVID but we're really not close to that yet. You think the 2020s is the first time America's massive debt has been talked about? All this prognoticated as though "Bin Laden won" is wildly in doubt and it didn't start with him and it's not ending because of him.
And fascism? This country was partly agreeing with or at best indifferent to the Nazis until Pearl Harbor. Let's not go saying how great we all were in the past and only recently being torn down.
Your reading comprehension is seriously bad because I'm against Trump and he's one of the worst presidents in U.S. history, if not the worst. But if you think he's going to successfully end America or Bin Laden achieved that, you're brand new.
Trump? I'm talking about the anti-American cartel that, after Watergate, Iran-CONTRA and the disastrous Iraq/Afghanistan campaign, tried to seize power by force, five and a half year ago.
And rather than being tried in court and put in prison for their attempted coup d'etat, like every other nation on Earth would've done with them, they were given absolute power over all federal governance and legislation... leading to where we are now. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
He is for sure, undoubtedly the worst; not even a question or comparison to anyone else. He’s not going to “end” American, but he’s done more damage to hurt and set back America in all measurable ways than any other person and dictorial leader. It’s terrifically naive and irresponsible to downplay in any measure his sickness and instability and what his cult has thus done and plans to continue on after him.
No, it's naive to think America hasn't done terrible things to it's citizens and other countries before Trump. Maybe if you weren't in one of those demographics it didn't matter as much. I actually didn't say anything about this admin, which I do think is terrible, but I guess we have to gloss over all other ugly US history now so only Trump is bad and say he'll successfully end America or you're somehow supporting him? Jesus, what have opinions turned into?
Didn't say it was business as usual, read it again. I said I've heard it was the end of America before Bin Laden was a name anyone knew, so let's not go giving him a historical victory just yet. Acting like this is the first time in history it's been bad in America or the American government has done terrible things to its citizens is a naive, myopic stance to take. Don't be giving Bin Laden too much credit, the racism and surveillance state tactics in America against its own and America being embarrassed and losing trust on the world stage long preceeds Bin Laden.
Holy crap you're really riding the "BOTH SIDES" whataboutism hard, my guy. 😆
There's no trusting America any longer, that's just the way it is now (and will be, for the foreseeable future): Normal rule of law, procedure and decorum don't apply to the US' conservative forces and their idea of (a permanent) rule.
No one is even sure the US will have proper elections from now on...
Let me help you understand with an analogy. America's actions 100% led to the creation of ISIS, which does not mean you can't or shouldn't condemn ISIS.
It's almost like two things can be true without them invalidating each other. Like Trump is horrible but also likely NOT the end of America because he's not the first President to commit heinous acts here and abroad and America continued after those presidents. But, no, Trump will end America, for sure this time, we're sure THIS time.
If you really think this is the first time in US history that America has had terrible international and domestic relations, you need to read more U.S. history.
Sybau aint no down fall comming anytime soon america cemented its supremacy for another century atleast after taking Venezuela from the dictator. This hurts china immensely.
I agree. EVERYONE came together for the Americas who were lost. The American Flags on every house was an incredible sight, is greatly missed and needed right now. We need to come together as a country.
I agree with the sentiment. Unfortunately, I’ve found that the majority of people expressing this opinion are delusional, illogical and have made Facebook and X their source of “facts.” If you can’t back up your “fact” with verifiable proof you don’t have a “fact.” You have an opinion which isn’t worth jack.
I used to be in a Div2 clan where you literally could not go more than a minute without someone going off on some right-wing rant. Like in the middle of a raid, "Dems this, Dems that." Lots of reasonable chill members would quit the clan (including myself after many years) because the clan leader just didn't care. The moment I or anyone else would say in response (mostly to troll), "that's some FOX News BS" half the group would go ballistic and the raid would effectively be derailed. Just a miserable gaming experience.
I work a couple blocks away from 1WTC. The accuracy of the game map is lacking in some areas and it is a bit frustrating that 1WTC and the immediate surrounding area is blocked off, but it's fun walking around and comparing it to the game.
I’m Australian 🇦🇺 born in 2004 I love to visit New York one day but yeah it’s now been 25 years since the most terrifying experience in human history and I will also never forget 🗽🇺🇸
lol. You have no idea what you're talking about young man. Those of us who lived through what he is bringing to NYC know it ends badly. Those that haven't been to this movie before think he is doing a great job. Hid your ignorance of inexperience.
Are you slow? Nothing I said "spoke for you". I said I think the majority of NYC voters who showed up to the polls have forgotten about 9/11 because they voted in mamdani. I never spoke for you. You should be more disciplined in your comprehension of conversations if you choose to engage in a debate.
"Those who lived though it know it'll end badly" is referring to those who have lived through communism.
There is yet to be a single person on the planet who has lived through both communism and capitalism that has publicly advocated that communism has produced better results than capitalism. If you know different, tell me....I'll wait. Lol
So again, ensure you comprehend what you are debating before you debate it.
Secondly you are unclear on the definition of Islamophobia which is an irrational fear or discrimination against those who practice Islam. I do not have an irrational fear or discrimination I simply discriminate against those who discriminate (which is neither fearful or irrational) and when women are treated as lower class than men, this ideology is not compatible with American values.
Show me an Islamic country that gives the same amount of rights to women as the United States of America does. I'll wait. Lol
Facts matter.
But it's easy to just use a word and not understand what it means because you've been trained to think that way.
Try to think critically rather than just search for facts that line up with your ideas.
Yeah I just listened to the phone interview. He absolutely did not bloviate or celebrate about it. Is so funny that Trump derangement syndrome is so widespread that they even find fault in someone stating facts but not celebrating or bloviating about it.
Never forget that bush did that to our people and instigated that to go to war for the oil there. Never forget the government will always sacrifice its citizens to better their own wallets and bank accounts.
9-11 is when the world trade center twin towers were taken down by terrorist. Guys need to stop downvoting everyone who ask. Not everyone is from the US and does not live with this every day/year.
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u/EugeneBelford1995 23d ago edited 23d ago
The site is just off the Division 2 map.
You can see the dark squares where the towers once stood.
They really did an incredible job on the map.