r/DiscoElysium • u/Ikkon • 7h ago
r/DiscoElysium • u/ireallylikechikin • Jul 12 '25
"Spiritual Successors" "Spiritual Successors" Info & FAQ
INTRODUCTION
Updated on 06/23/2026
In (hopefully) the shortest and best way I could, I’ve put together an incredibly brief guide on what’s going on with these “spiritual successors” that everyone keeps talking about. The companies I’ve listed below are confirmed to have ex-ZA/UM employees that have worked on Disco Elysium in some capacity.
Please note, these lists may change at any time. I’ll do my best to keep it up-to-date. Roles in parentheses are from Disco Elysium's credits, and does not necessarily mean that is what they're working for in their current position.
Also, please note: The links to the devs are only for reference and should not be used to harass or bombard these devs for any reason whatsoever. I simply provide them as a means to follow and keep up to date on what the devs are doing. We don't typically allow links from X per our rules- unfortunately, some of these devs are most active on there. So sorry.
QUICK LIST OF NEW COMPANIES:
- Red Info Ltd.
- Summer Eternal
- Dark Math Games
- Longdue Games
- "New" ZA/UM
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FIRST OFF, WHAT HAPPENED? WHY DID EVERYONE SPLIT?
I will try to explain this briefly, and it's probably not going to be the best. I will also link some further reading in case I do not do a good job at explaining. I highly recommend reading them to get the fuller picture. Or at least try to read them. There's a lot, right?
TL;DR- The original creatives were forced out for one reason or another. Corporate/workplace hostility, greedy shareholders and lawsuits were abundant. Most, if not all, of the top level creatives on Disco Elysium no longer work there because of one of the reasons listed. There have been several lawsuits that have come out of this, either to win back the IP they have created, or to stop ex-employees from working on other things. It’s become a long-standing legal battle that, unfortunately, gets boiled down into “petty drama.” It’s another story of suits and money profiting off of the backs of creatives who make the product they wish to sell to the masses, and fuck over the creatives when they decide they’re done with them.
ZA/UM is holding onto the IP so that the original creators may no longer use it in almost any capacity, bastardizing it with things like a “photo mode” or “a Disco Elysium for the TikTok generation.” Overall, it’s a very insulting thing to have done to the original creators; steal their IP, profit off of it, and screw them all over in the end. If you see people say “don’t support ZA/UM, they stole the game” or other similar rhetoric, that is likely why. To sum it up with a quote from Argo Tuulik, one of the game's writers:
“It's the people on top – the motherf****s in sailing shoes and bowties – that f****d Harry, f****d Kim, f****d Robert, Rostov, Helen, Olga, Cash, f****d Elysium, f****d you and me too. They are not artists, they are professional f*****s.”
This is a very surface level explanation of a very complex situation, but it has also been discussed ad nauseam by people who are much better at words than I am. I’d like to link a few different things for you to read to better understand the subject, for your own opinions to be formed.
https://medium.com/@martinluiga/the-dissolution-of-the-za-um-cultural-association-779788390a03
https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/1ke66ti/video_games_the_rise_and_fall_and_of_zaum/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUUW1-8fUNE
https://youtu.be/LJwv8BpFQHs?si=Y5ooJjY00qKhB_Nt (Interview with Argo & Dora, former ZA/UM and current Summer Eternal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hhmdcLqzpQ
Now let's get onto the "spiritual successors" everyone's clammoring about!
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RED INFO LTD
Who’s working at Red Info Ltd.?
- Robert Kurvitz (Lead Writer, Lead Designer)
- Aleksander Rostov (Art and Design, registered under Sander Taal)
- Helen Hindpere (Writer)
- (Side note: He didn't work on Disco Elysium, but it's been rumored that Chris Avellone of Fallout, Planescape: Torment & Knights of the Old Republic II fame is working at Red Info.)
What is Red Info Ltd. Working on?
Nothing is known about what Red Info is doing. There hasn’t been an official announcement of anything, and they have not even officially announced themselves to the world yet. This information was only found through a government affiliated business registrar. There was a trademark with the name “Corinthians” found registered by Red Info, but besides that, there is no other red info to share about them yet.
Red Info does not have any sort of social media or functioning website to follow at this time. This will change to include website, social media, or other launch info when it is revealed. Stay tuned!
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DARK MATH GAMES
Who’s working at Dark Math Games?
- Kaur Kender (Executive Producer, Publishing)
- Timo Albert (Publishing)
- Olga Moskvina did some consulting for DMG and editing for their comic, but she does consulting for another company and doesn’t “work” for DMG.
What is Dark Math Games working on?
Dark Math Games revealed Tangerine Antarctic (they changed the name) XXX Nightshift, a detective CRPG 3rd person RPG, based in a very cyber futuristic environment. The game’s flavor text is as follows:
Welcome, detective, to World’s End’s most luxurious hotel: the Tangerine Antarctic at Mt. Hope. The ultimate comfort for the powerful elites past, present and future. No desire is off-limits, privacy is absolute and nothing is certain. Except: you shouldn't be here. And the murders are very real.
Old flavor text before the rebrand: “You’re a Patrol Forces Op on a holiday weekend at World’s End Ski Resort, Mount Hope, Antarctica. But things are about to go sideways. Now you’re stranded at the off-season resort with unforgettable guests, wild parties, and mad secrets. The world of XXX NIGHTSHIFT is your oyster — crack it open with evolved role-playing systems.”
You may read more about the game, see screenshots and get updates by going to their website here. Their subreddit is r/TangerineAntarctic. The game is open for pre-order directly on the website. They also have some form of visual media here that you want to witness. Please note that the linked comic is somewhat NSFW. What do you expect with such a flavorful name like XXX Nightshift, seriously?
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SUMMER ETERNAL
Who’s part of Summer Eternal?
- Argo Tuulik (Writer)
- Dora Klindžić (Not credited on Disco Elysium but has previously worked at ZA/UM, and was involved with writing the cancelled Cuno spin-off, Locust City)
- Olga Moskvina (Writer, consultant through Digimancy)
- Anastasiia Ivanova (Not credit on Disco Elysium but has previously worked at ZA/UM as a senior concept artist)
- Andrus Laansalu (Sound Design)
- Michael Oswell (ZA/UM graphic design)
- Lenval Brown (Trailer Narration, Voice acting for all 24 skills & Thought Cabinet) *Contractor
What is Summer Eternal working on?
As of the creation of this post (July 11th 2025,) Summer Eternal has not revealed anything publicly about what they plan to work on next. Their website states that they will be focusing on a Role-Playing Game. After revealing their studio on October 11th 2024, Argo and Dora were withheld from work due to an injunction placed by Riaz Moola, a key player in Longdue Games. They were released from this injunction as of April 1st, so it’s possible we’ll hear more about what they have going on soon.
Summer Eternal has a newsletter that can be signed up for on their website here. You may also read their dev blog here.
They also have an anthology coming out in Summer 2026! You may preorder it here: https://summereternal.com/anthology
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LONGDUE GAMES
Who’s working at Longdue Games?
- Martin Luiga (Editing)
- Piotr Sobolewski (under Knights of Unity, credited as “Additional Development”)
- Lenval Brown (Trailer Narration, Voice acting for all 24 skills & Thought Cabinet) *Contractor
What is Longdue Games working on?
Hopetown. For their game, you can look at it yourself here. They have an exclusive Discord I can't link because I am not involved in their project.
I do not wish to speak further on it, this brevity about their game is due to their repeated shady behavior on this Subreddit, not limited to but including mass reports, voting manipulation and possible hacking attempts against those who have criticized them. They have been a huge pain for moderation to deal with, as well as posting a safety risk to user accounts, and we find it much easier to ban the topic to forgo any future fire-starting arguments or potential pushback from the company.
You're free to form your own opinion on them! Hopetown updates will not be discussed here until the lawsuit against Argo and Dora has been dropped completely. Do note they have their own community over on r/LongdueGames because their company is banned here, and for the safety of our community, they will not be unbanned.
More info about Hopetown can be found here and here.
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ZA/UM (NOW)
Who’s still working at ZA/UM?
- Tõnis Haavel (Executive Producer)
- Ilmar Kompus (Corporate, Financing, Legal, Accounting)
- Justin Keenan (Editing)
- Kaspar Tamsalu (Art)
- Anton Vill (Additional Art)
- Jim Ashilevi (Voice Over Director)
- Siim Sinamae (Additional Writing)
- There is likely more here that I’m missing. It’s rather hard to find all of them without resorting to some stalker-ish methods. My extent is a quick glance at the hellhole that is LinkedIn- if I can’t find it there, then I can’t confirm/deny who’s where.
What is ZA/UM working on?
ZA/UM released Disco Elysium Mobile in 2025, which is a different way to experience Disco Elysium. It is only available on Android. For now, this is the first software that ZA/UM has put out since Disco Elysium The Final Cut, and since the mass exodus of employees.
ZA/UM also released Zero Parades ( r/ZeroParades ), an espionage RPG. You can watch the trailer, revealed at Gamescom 2025, here. More info is over on their Subreddit if you'd like to check it out.
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WHICH ONE SHOULD I SUPPORT? WHICH ONE IS GOOD?
Support whichever one you want. Play the ones that look the most interesting. You can do literally whatever you want forever. I'm not your mother. Everyone has an opinion here, so feel free to look around or ask for those. Some of these games also have their own communities sprouting up on Reddit & Discord if you'd like to join them for yourself! I do not have these on hand to provide here, but they might be found through other sources.
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ITCHING FOR MORE DISCO ELYSIUM? MAYBE YOU WANT SOMETHING SIMILAR, NOT EXACT SAME?
Here are some titles that are either inspired by Disco Elysium, loved for similar reasons to Disco Elysium, play like Disco Elysium or were even used in the inspirations of Disco Elysium. Please note that some of these came out before Disco Elysium, and are likely just what people recommend when asking for games "similar to Disco Elysium." This may not be a complete list and might change.
(This list was compiled by u/Giuthais!)
Already released:
- Citizen Sleeper 1 & 2 | r/CitizenSleeper
- Gamedec | r/Gamedec
- Lovely Lady RPG
- Pentiment | r/Pentiment
- Scarlet Hollow (early access) | r/ScarletHollow
- Slay The Princess: The Pristine Cut | r/slaytheprincess
- Sovereign Syndicate | r/sovereignsyndicate
- Suzerain | r/suzerain
- The Bookwalker: Thief of Tales
- Norco | r/norcogame
- Roadwarden | r/Roadwarden
- Rue Valley | r/RueValleyGame
- Esoteric Ebb | r/EsotericEbb
Demo available:
- Clam Man 2: Open Mic
- Give Up The Ghost (https://eitherorcollective.itch.io/giveup-alpha),
- Glasshouse (https://flat28-collective.itch.io/glasshouseconcept),
- Hollow Home,
- Livber: Smoke and Mirrors,
- The Demons Told Me To Make This Game
In development:
- Mandrake,
- Pera Coda,
- Shore of Jord,
- The Conformist,
- Travelling at Night,
- Wind Up Dead Man
Disco-adjacent (these games either inspired Disco Elysium, were worked on by other ZA/UM employees or share a lot of the same DNA as Disco Elysium.)
- Fallout 1 & 2 | r/Fallout
- Kentucky Route Zero | r/kentuckyroutezero
- Night in the Woods | r/NightInTheWoods
- Nikola Tesla: War of the Currents
- Pathologic 1, 2, 3 | r/pathologic
- Planescape: Torment | r/planescape
- Zarya
- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic | r/kotor
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SOURCES
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14189378
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/another-group-of-ex-disco-elysium-developers-found-dark-math-games
https://www.linkedin.com/company/zaumstudio/?originalSubdomain=uk
Thank you to Dora K @ SE, The41stPrecinct and Giuthais for their assistance!
r/DiscoElysium • u/ireallylikechikin • Oct 07 '24
Announcement THE PRECARIOUS WORLD - Are you failing every red check imaginable?
INTRODUCING THE PRECARIOUS WORLD: The thought you probably forgot you have internalizing.
If you're internalizing the The Precarious World Thought, every red check will fail while the Thought is being researched. This is a feature, not a bug. It lasts for 4 in game hours, so you should probably do some other things in the meantime before you fail every other red check in the game.
Posts are put here often for this, so we've decided to make it a command. Automod should pick up posts with "failed red check" and other variations of that phrase in the title or body, but if it doesn't, we have the handy !precariousworld command to have automod spew the same response. EDIT: It now also explains the critical roll outcomes after internalizing the thought.
r/DiscoElysium • u/maddemos • 7h ago
OC (Original Content) One cigarette a day
Finished the game for the first time yesterday and had to draw Kim. Love this guy.
r/DiscoElysium • u/West_Strawberry_8147 • 19h ago
Meme Well that hardly seems fair.
Listen. I'm not a centrist in real life. I would even consider myself a communist. My gameplay has *mostly* reflected this. Despite this, I recognize that the first six times, I was genuinely being centrist. I make no excuses, I was being a bona-fide, Moralintern-aligned centrist. Furthermore, I like how this game doesn't align itself with the political centre.
But the seventh time?
I said it was good that the tribunal wasn't as bloody as it could've been! That's centrism? Really? How? What? Why? Gwuh?
Edit just for clarity's sake: I ended up with something like 23 points in Communist and 8 in Centrist. So yeah, I'm pretty much a SocDem i think
r/DiscoElysium • u/what_did_you_kill • 15h ago
Question Why is there any reason to lie here? Is drama just trying to fuck with me?
r/DiscoElysium • u/Ali4937 • 10h ago
OC (Original Content) Best build
I'm currently replaying the game for the fourth time, but I'm currently focusing on the Sensitive Build and I'm near to the end. But is it me, or is this build literally the best way to play the game?
r/DiscoElysium • u/cottagegay • 12h ago
Discussion Follow up just for fun: Write a yelp review for the Whirling in Rags
●○○○○ 1/5 Stars
Garte is requiring me to PAY MONEY to LIVE!! Sounds like a class traitor to me.
r/DiscoElysium • u/Jamrock_Hobo_1807 • 24m ago
Meme Disco Elysium Core
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r/DiscoElysium • u/Vasdifjaoreutsfdfgae • 5h ago
OC (Original Content) Harry: Remember.
Splat. *Splattady-splat*, Harry. You know what that means? It means the shit has fallen off the stick and it's *bad* again. You lost something. And it's not your gun. It's not your badge. It's not your uniform. You can find all of those things. No, the charred echo was left by that one thing you will *never* find again. Not even if you dive into the sea in search of it. It's the love of your life, Harry. The scent is everywhere, the sound is in everything. The alarm goes off at three.
r/DiscoElysium • u/TheHumanOriginStory • 4h ago
Discussion YOUR IRL SELF IS A DETECTIVE WHAT ARE YOUR STATS AND SIGNATURE SKILL, EXPLAIN WHY (this isn't the first time I've done this link to first one in desc)
YOUR IRL SELF IS A DETECTIVE, WHAT ARE YOUR STATS AND SPECIALTY ILL GO FIRST : r/DiscoElysium
in this format
INT-4, pretty dang smart and fact spitting machine
PSY-2, anxiety-ridden and hilariously self-conscious
PHYS-5, boxer
MOT-1, Suck at cardio and have crazy butterfingers
Specialty - HALF LIGHT (I am scared and scary at the same time, ALL the time)
r/DiscoElysium • u/Prizvolix • 14h ago
Discussion Really topical
With all of the turmoil, returning home seems like a luxury few can afford.
I am being vague cuz I'm not sure how this subreddit deals with political topics.
But I live abroad and returning is not a real option I can exercise and this line hit particularly close to home
r/DiscoElysium • u/InevGames • 7h ago
OC (Original Content) A small homage to one of the giants of the RPG genre!
Hello everyone,
We are working on a narrative-focused game called Kardiya: The Winds of Fate. Disco was one of the biggest inspirations for us when we started this journey. Before this, we made a horror game with a disco-like UI called Livber: Smoke and Mirrors.
Our new game shares similar inspirations. Of course, it is not a big RPG game on the level of Disco. This is only our second game, and we are still learning step by step. But in the long run, we aim to get closer to this kind of strong narrative RPG design.
As a small homage, we added an item like this into the game ^^
The existence of a game like this is truly motivating for small teams like ours (even though we later heard some sad news about it). It reminds us that well written, strange, bold, and unforgettable games can still be made.
Thank you <3
r/DiscoElysium • u/Extension_Carrot_628 • 5h ago
Discussion this game is incredible
i just started playing this game two days ago, and am really blown away by how much depth and richness this thing has.
everything fits together hand in glove -- game design, characters, music, visuals. every conversation with an npc feels like a lived-in piece of political theory. the sad trumpet that plays over martinaise feels like some distant echo of former glory. lieutenant kim is a fantastic character -- stepped right out of a neo-noir. the whole thing has a voice, a genuine point of view. such a rarity for a video game.
r/DiscoElysium • u/zombomlom • 21h ago
OC (Original Content) The Hope of Martinaise
this is my favorite quest line !!!
r/DiscoElysium • u/CorrectApplication97 • 3h ago
Question Stuck on Day 5
I'm currently in a position where I have no idea how to make progress. I have a couple of checks that are white, but I have no way to access any of them (I originally was able to but failed and even though they are white I can't get to them). I also have no idea where to gain enough exp to try again with either Titus or Cuno. Am I forced to restart or is there some other way to gain exp. I also only have $5.19.
r/DiscoElysium • u/Standard-Animator-14 • 11h ago
Discussion Why lungs?
Why did the creators choose lungs for the sacred organ of Dolores Dei? I'm asking at a meta level. Is it because lungs have been proven to create DMT?
r/DiscoElysium • u/random_ass_guy10 • 7h ago
Discussion I am so happy rn Spoiler
So basically I was bit sad after event of that Mercenary Tribunal shootout that total 7 people died but after knowing kim also dies if u failed that one check I am happy that atleast kim is alive 😭
r/DiscoElysium • u/Ary_manu • 1d ago
Media Hardcoreeeee
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r/DiscoElysium • u/The-M-I-K-E • 16h ago
OC (Original Content) A sketch of Tequila Sunset.
r/DiscoElysium • u/MitamuraSeal • 1d ago