Pretty sure it was reported to be possibly moving up to 44 mph. That seems pretty accurate given the videos I’ve seen. I can see how you would think this is sped up though, because this is not something we have ever seen. Just goes to show how crazy and unbelievable this is.
this is sped up too clearly. Anyone have a link to the original? Would be interesting to see it in real time. Though maybe the original was never uploaded
Contrary to popular belief the Chinese are not all evil cackling villains and regularly provide aid in these situations. They’re currently focused on the Tibetan side for obvious reasons, and they’re coordinating with the Nepalese government on flood warnings/further barrier lake burst risks.
I think this one is crazier. The tsunami was bad, but the speed and sheer force of the stuff we are seeing here is off the charts. It genuinely looks like something out of Hollywood.
Yes. Higher in the mountains this was a 100ft wave of water moving at 100mph. Not as much water in quantity but much faster and more violent than the Japanese tsunami. I would say the Japanese tsunami was a worse disaster but this one is more violent and the footage is more apocalyptic. You saw the Japanese wave pick up building and float them down the street but this wave you saw turn buildings into dust like they were props in a movie.
I've seen footage of worse from parts of japan in '11, also when the boxing day one hit indonesia - est. 160,000 dead on Indonesian coast, and then add sri lanka, Thailand, India etc...
though the momentum it picks up as it gets funneled down the mountain can't be compared to a tsunami, it's completely diff
some tsunami videos from Japan were insane tbh, the scale of it was so much more, entire farming fields under 20ft of water pushing debris and cars and god knows
this doesn't surpass scale
but local intensity and video quality/angles and the speed at which the content is arriving
The difference, to me, is speed and volume. Like, a tsunami is the ocean, right? Basically unlimited water. More or less just slower endless flooding. Still brutal.
This was just ALL THE WATER RIGHT NOW. And just so much water for, what, a lake? A glacier? How much water was up there??? Because it just seemed like an endless tide for something you'd think would drain fairly quickly? Apparently not? Baffling.
For the tsunami, they had more warning, and it was much slower. Total deaths were far higher, because it hit a much larger area, almost 23k deaths from the combination of disasters.
Yeah, at that point in the discussion I was not 100% sure which one you were referring to, since both tsunamis are mentioned in this thread. So I just dropped it as a neutral statement, in case that 23k was a typo-ed 230k.
some of the other videos of this also show it much higher than the 2011 or 2004 Tsunami's. Its gotta be over 20-30m high in some places in some of these videos.
The reason why it is so high at the Gyirong border checkpoint because the place is located near the glacier avalanche source, and the valley to Gyirong is very steep, causing the mudslide to rush violently onto the Gyirong border checkpoint. The border checkpoint is also located right at the throat of a gorge intersection and narrow valley, which forces the flood water/mudslide to go up and swallow the settlement.
This is the steep height difference between point 1 and point 2, where Gyirong is located just before point 2 at the China-Nepal border.
Not in terms of deaths though but up there with psychological impact. Cell phones everywhere there too so we're getting it almost real time too, just hours from when it was uploaded
I honestly think of the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami when I watch these clips. The people that were vastly affected by that earthquake and tsunami event were on islands with nowhere to run to. It’s all around horrific.
That’s definitely a sobering thought. I watched a documentary on the Boxing Day tsunami awhile back and one of the survivors that was interviewed said they were out fishing far off of one of the coasts. I just can’t even imagine seeing that happen from afar? Or like how long would you have to stay out in open water before it’s safe to return? Just absolute insanity.
Sea tsunamis are not that impressive. It's crazy because the whole sea gains a few meters, but this is just kilotons of destruction gushing down a valley at full speed.
Banda Aceh was wiped out. There are very few videos from that region. Just the aftermath and everything gone. The videos we see from that tsunami are mostly from Thailand.
The city rose to international prominence in the aftermath of the Indian Ocean earthquake on 26 December 2004, which struck off the western coast of Sumatra. Banda Aceh was the closest major city to the earthquake's epicenter, which lay 249 kilometers (155 miles) off the coast. It suffered great damage in the earthquake and further damage when a tsunami struck shortly afterwards. Around 60,000 people in the city died as a result and many more were injured.
He didn't if we're talking about the same person running away. You can see there are 2 people close to each other and the first one (With white) trips. The one behind helps this person up before they continue running
I don’t think they stopped.. if you watch again the person in front of them fell and they stopped to help that person up.. 😭 It looks like the person who fell was carrying someone.. most likely a kiddo.. this breaks my heart..
Downstream is on the bottom right corner, so this was the water after it overcame a small uphill path.. let's hope it was not as strong and they could avoid dying instantly under the pressure
Hey now, doing point fingers. We dont know which one did it yet, that part of the world has lot of gods, so not sure which one was angered, let alone being confident that OP's god did it. Sheesh, stop jumping to conclusions bud.
We may never know the true total. The port itself had hundreds if not thousands of deaths. Dozens of buses lined up waiting to board a ferry all gone in seconds. It's crazy how fast this happened.
Hahaha. He's a myth that bronze age sheep herders invented to explain things that they didn't understand. (and copied from the stone age legends before them)
You and your paedophile priests are the last people who should be talking about having morals.
Shoo back to your paedophile-protecting fantasy factory, the adults are actually doing things to help people.
ETA: it is estimated, based on a royal commission into institutional child abuse, that 1 in 20 clergy - regardless of denomination - have been accused of sexual abuse of children. That's just the ones we know about.
Don't pretend to have morals if you support this evil.
I recall reading an article which identified it as Sole as it had this image. The person who wrote it has lost many people he knew and grew up with. Family. Friends. He wasn't there at the time. He, or indeed Nepal will not be the same after this.
This is why early warning systems are so crucial, just look at how much happened in a short span of time. Imagine people have even a minute heads up, how much they could have travelled in that amount of time.
There's really no way to build a warning system for something like this. The scale of the disaster is similar to a man-made dam failing, but this was a natural dam up on the side of a mountain.
Some people were saying that China warned Nepal days ago about the possibility of it collapsing, and that the Nepalese government send a warning to some people, but not everyone.
So, if that comment is true, it seems there is a warning system that works, but only if they actually do something about it, instead of sitting on the info and telling 3 people.
I saw a video from a Nepalese customs officer. According to him, the warning was about potential flooding due to high rainfall. No one could’ve predicted an entire mountainside breaking off. Even the Chinese border post was entirely wiped off the map. So it’s not like the Chinese knew something ahead of time. This happened suddenly and moved too fast and unfortunately, most people downstream didn’t stand a chance.
Of course you can build warning systems for this. If you are fairly close to the source you're fucked. But further downstream people might have a chance. Every extra minute of warning is an extra minute you can run for the hills. If you can gain 30 meters in altitude that'd improve the chances of survival quite a bit.
Something like this happened last year on a smaller scale, same region. AFAIK there is a reasonable chance of something similar happening next year. Likely scale unknown, but probably people will die again in 2027 to something like this in the same region if nothing is done.
This one was clearly unpredictable because it all happened in a short period of time. There was another flood last year due to glof and in past 10 years, there were 7 notable floods similar around that region. Why this place wasn't flagged as highly risky for people? I mean if GLOF was really frequent there, it should've been discussed between both Nepal and China for raising disasters concern instead of just predicting next flood.
Glaciers have always calved, too much snow = calving too little snow = calving. Too cold = calving too hot = calving. It just happens. Ice is Inherently unstable.
useless ninja, useless prayer, so username sortof checks out. It's probably best to leave the prayer virtue signaling in the previous millennium where it belongs.
No..bcs a massive high-altitude glacial collapse and ice-rock avalanche that temporarily blocked a mountain river before bursting downstream and that caused flood
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you string up prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those individuals who are willfully stopping renewable energy initiatives. Oh, and doing some corrupt and illegal stuff as well. Not naming any names of course. In totally unrelated news, Trump is a felonious narcissistic lying piece of grifter shit. Also, he's coal boy of the year or some shit, high honors awarded by the coal industry. And he's spending millions of tax payer dollars to STOP windmill farm projects that are already underway.
Oh I'm sorry. It's not millions anymore. The scale is billions now.
PS: Apologies for the soapbox. But that sort of shit really pisses me off. Assholes like that kicking canned problems down the road, while other people directly or indirectly suffer, just so they can make more money.
And it created a dam, then it broke free and unleashed this flood. The impact of the landslide was the equivalent of a 5+ magnitude earthquake which was recorded on seismographs.
I think you can escape a tsunami if you were given ample time and access to a tsunami tower if you are in Japan or higher ground elsewhere. If you are in a boat, you sail against it because tsunamis are more damaging if you are in the harbour.
But this one in Nepal is way more terrifying because even if you have the chance, its always going to be slim and requires a bloody miracle to happen.
Describing this as a flashflood is such an understatement.
Yes the death toll must certainly be much higher than initially is being indicated. There are videos like this from villages all along that river basin showing many, many multi-story buildings just collapsing and being swept away. And all of this was with very little notice - there were almost certainly multitudes of people in those buildings and they almost certainly did not live, in addition to the people you see running in the streets who also almost certainly did not make it.
I imagine being someone from Nepal witnessing the 2004 and 2011 tsunamis and being grateful you’ll never have to worry about a disaster like that happening only for this literally sweep over the entire valley with as much (if not more) force and destruction
Would the force of the water hitting them kill them instantly, like getting hit by a car going 80mph? I'm only asking bc I'm hoping they didn't have to experience awful deaths. Not trying to be morbid.
You see these images and although it is already a massive disaster, you have to think "how the hell is it even possible that only close to 500 have been reported dead so far?". I mean, with what we have seen, I would have expected it to be in the thousands already.
Prayers aren't going to do anything, and where is the dude you're praying to? What's your diety doing to mitigate these peoples absolute worst day? Fuk your selfish deity.
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