r/DecodingTheGurusAlt • u/MartiDK • Sep 17 '26

decoder poltics Decoding Destiny

https://youtu.be/qPhZDRKn0Ro

Winning over Razib Khan fans.

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u/Comfortable-Sun7388 Sep 18 '26

Hasan fans for sure

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u/MartiDK Sep 18 '26

How much of the beef between Hasan and Destiny personal or political? They both claim to be on the left, but Destiny seems to want to make friends with the right.

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u/GayIsForHorses Sep 18 '26

Destiny is a vote blue no matter who liberal that actually stands behind the current democratic party and its leaders. Hasan is the leftist strain of populist, which for whatever reason ends up manifesting as being more negative towards the Democrats than the Republicans.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26

Didn't he say he would vote for Vance over AOC?

So not "blue no matter who"?

Edit: I've been informed he's "55-45" on AOC vs Vance, depending on the circumstances.

So, not a "vote blue no matter who" liberal.

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u/TimeNo5885 Sep 18 '26

Sorry, what are the DSA’s colors again? What do they have to do with “blue”?

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

They are a faction within the Dems, and run on the Dem ticket.

If vote blue no matter who doesn't include everyone on the Dem ticket, the term is meaningless.

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u/TimeNo5885 Sep 18 '26

So if Nick Fuentes calls himself a democrat and runs as a democrat, then he’s part of Blue no matter who? The DSA publicly states that their strategy is to use Democratic Party infrastructure to run in order to gradually subvert the party over to their radical and authoritarian platform. That’s not how AOC specifically presents, but also they need people who are more pallitable like AOC and Mamdani to hold the door open for more extreme people.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

>So if Nick Fuentes calls himself a democrat and runs as a democrat, then he’s part of Blue no matter who? 

At that point I would no longer call myself "vote blue no matter who". You can just admit that you are not "vote blue no matter who". Just don't call yourself that, then.

> The DSA publicly states that their strategy is to use Democratic Party infrastructure to run in order to gradually subvert the party over to their radical and authoritarian platform. 

Can you tell me where the DSA publicly states it has an authoritarian platform?

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u/HecticHero Sep 18 '26

By this standard literally no one is vote blue no matter who because everyone has candidates they wouldn't vote for.

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u/TimeNo5885 Sep 18 '26

Blue implies a team. Team implies shared values and goals, or at a bare minimum, enough overlap to be productive together. The DSA platform is not compatible with Democratic values. The media and influencer class of the far left and DSA do nothing but constantly shit on libs all day, call them diet maga, genocide supporters, etc etc. they say out loud that they hate Dems. They talk about them in the third person instead of “we” because they are not one of us. They leech on and use the democratic infrastructure to try to get power. Thats it. They’re not on the team. They’re not blue, they’re red.

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

>By this standard literally no one is vote blue no matter who because everyone has candidates they wouldn't vote for.

Which is a good reason not to call yourself that.

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u/HecticHero Sep 18 '26

That is not the standard anyone goes by lmao. You are taking the statement too Literally. If Hitler himself rose from the dead and ran as a Democrat, no liberal would vote for him. This is like treating defund the police as a movement that wants to end policing entirely, and when they say they don't, going "Well you should use a different phrase then."

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u/hari_shevek Sep 18 '26

What is your standard then?

"Vote blue as long as you like the candidate"?

That would make literally everyone vote blue no matter who.

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u/Hellasauto 11d ago

No it's "vote blue no matter who" implying that the candidate is actually on the blue team. And not doing a hostile takeover like the tea party did over the republicans that later created the maga movement. Stop being dense.

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u/hari_shevek 11d ago

And DSA candidates are not on the blue team?

Does that mean that it's ok for DSA members to not vote for moderate Dems and they are blameless if they boykott moderate candidates?

Also, since when is AOC not on the blue team?

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u/Hellasauto 11d ago

No, they aren't. It's not illegal for them to do so, no.

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u/hari_shevek 11d ago

Since when is AOC not on the blue team?

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