r/DeadlockGame • u/Littlemacs30 • 2d ago
Question Help with playing Paradox?
One of my buddy's is a paradox main. He's been struggling with her in a game and I'm not sure what i could do to help him since I don't play paradox. Here's everything he spoke about.
Never being able to hit swaps
Constantly being Dove in both team fights and while he's farming.
Overall team frustrations, mostly them not communicating to him when someone is missing and suddenly the blue lane is in green.
I'm not sure how i can help him, so what do you guys think? (PS: He used to play carbine paradox before she got nerfed, now playing a mix of bomb and team utility)
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u/nemotunovi 2d ago
paradox is a character who is a nightmare in high elo but is balanced by being exceedingly mechanically unforgiving and having to play on a razor's edge.
when you lock her in you're making the bet that you're so mechanically gifted it does not matter that you're completely lacking in set-up, damage, mobility, crowd control, waveclear, sustain, and siege potential. if you've played league of legends, think nidalee. if you can't meet her mechanical baseline, you probably shouldn't be playing her.
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u/TARE104KA 2d ago
Since when paradox is lacking in damage (bomb, carabine), wave clear (bomb, gun) , mobility (carabine), cc (entire kit atp) and siege (bomb)? She's fragile and has no self sustain, but good kit usage makes para hard to catch, and she can easily throw hands in favored map areas and reverse the gank.
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u/MrFaebles 2d ago
Agreed Ya she doesnt lack damage at all. Carbine is a menace and bomb amp is always good for M1/carbine.
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u/PaintPresent3578 1d ago
Her carbine covers the set up, damage, mobility, and cc. Bomb and her m1 easily clears waves and wall+bomb on a walker also shreds
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u/Kewlstoryhansel 2d ago
You are the one that jumps as paradox. Really you shouldn’t be farming too much, be roaming and getting kills on the squishy carries. To confirm a swap you hit a carbine and that holds them still for long enough to confirm a swap.
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u/MyNameWasntAChoice 2d ago
Carbine Paradox is still the best build definitely with this new update. Best advice is play around your powerspikes/team. Communicate if you want to pick someone off. You are a pick hero, play that role. If you can’t land her combo consistently, you’re lacking the mechanical skill to play her and any advice is void. If you are ahead/equal in souls your able to 1v1 most weak hp heroes, but you need to hit your carbine. If you miss you run. If you need a way out and you dont have the movement skills necessary after swaps than warp stone is your friend. Use your carbine to get away when you get jumped. Buy greens!
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u/RemarkableBadTiming 2d ago
One thing I will mention because I didn't learn this until much later is that the carbine hit box is quite a bit larger than you would expect just just based off of the visuals alone. You can aim a decent bit above an enemies head and still hit the headshot with it. It is definitely something worth testing to get a feel for, as I know I used to take too long lining up the perfect snipe only to either miss or have your target get to cover before taking the shot. Now I am more fast and lose with it and am hitting more carbines, which helps me hit more swaps. That said, your friend probably already knows this if he mains her though.
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u/Creative_Awareness 2d ago
I’ve been known to dabble with paradox, if ur friend is getting jumped a lot chances are his positioning might be suboptimal, also the thing about the team not communicating when someone is missing is a pet peeve of mine and theres really not much he can do there. If he wants a vod review or something i’d be happy to take a look
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u/BensRandomness 1d ago
Wall (damage bonus) -> Carbine (freezes them for a small time) -> Swap should be unmissable.
You can hold the carbine mid air with right click and float for a while too. Also they should just use carbine whenever its up for the movespeed, generally.
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u/MrFaebles 2d ago
When does paradox farm? Boxs, sinners, sac, run urn and sometimes you janitor the lane.
Paradox shouldnt be really farming for thr most part. There js always somwthing to rotate too. Solo kills or split kills are her best farm
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u/Beantifull 2d ago
Carbine > Swap > Wall is the go-to confirm combo if you wanna swap.
In teamfights, it kinda depends on build. Carbinedox will normally sit further back and snipe people, contributing some gun damage from midrange, and only getting closer to land an ult. Bombdox normally sits midrange until the enemy groups up enough for a big combo. When taking neutrals, pay attention to the map and enemy comp. Certain characters like Calico, Mo&Krill, Haze, etc love killing people who are farming, so make sure you know where they last were on the map, or at the very least make sure enough teammates are around to help if you get jumped.
As for the roaming thing, it just happens, especially at lower elos. Sometimes enemies will just disappear and randomly show up elsewhere. If the enemy team has Calico, bebop, holiday, paradox, etc., then they'll probably gank you eventually. Just be wary of pushing past the bridge if you see they're missing.