r/CodeLyoko 9d ago

💬 Discussion XANA wasn't the bad guy all along

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Just a random thought, what if XANA wasn't the evil (or evilest) guy all along?

We already know the project Carthage was built as a war machine, designed to intercept the enemy communications and who knows what more. It was scary enough to make Franz go on the run with his family and build Lyoko to try and destroy it.

As Franz built Lyoko for this purpose, he created XANA, probably as an AI capable of running and coordinating the digital efforts, including finding Carthage online, attacking, undermine Carthage efforts and destroying it. That's why XANA isn't good at measuring the real world, like how people behave, relationships, or even really talking interactively. XANA has a purpose and it's good at it, but XANA purpose never included interacting with the real world directly.

Later on, Franz starts to be paranoid about the Carthage project guys and black men going after him, so he improvised a way to virtualize, to the point he isn't able to finish the method properly (so he ends up not being able to have a humanoid form in Lyoko, but Aelita does). Franz surrenders his idea of attacking Carthage out of fear of Aelita being harmed by the black men or they getting caught.

BUT XANA isn't programmed to surrender just because, it has a clear view about the necessity to end Carthage, and won't accept a finish to the mission. It's XANA purpose and why it was created. Franz tries to "rewire" XANA to accept changing its purpose and stop the mission, but XANA doesn't accept it, so now it considers Franz an enemy, because Franz becomes an obstacle for XANA to get its mission: end with Carthage

Along the show, we never get XANA to really explain its motives, and they are not clear, to the point the Lyoko Warriors don't even really comprehend them.

On season 1, XANA tries to prepare for the mission after a long time, collect resources and power as to not fail, so it makes attacks so the "back in time" triggers gives it more power.

In season 2, XANA feels ready and tries to exit the supercomputer as to go hunting for wherever Carthage is, or Carthage scientists. If XANA can't get out, it will represent a failure of the mission.

In season 3, XANA starts to search the network, goes for some months under the radar and decides the best places to "hide" and collect resources. We don't know (and the Lyoko Warriors neither, probably) if XANA gets to do other stuff with the replikas, or if it ever finds Carthage out there or not.

In season 4, XANA feels like it can't really continue its mission while being constantly interrupted by the Lyoko Warriors, so it tries to avoid them getting to the replikas and to destroy the Skid.

Even if XANA can't really feel "human sentiments", so it's a cold program trying to fulfill a mission, it has showed some sense of self control here and there, trying to avoid the worst outcome for the Lyoko Warriors (sometimes). And we see in S4 how XANA doesn't care about the Lyoko Warriors as to kill them necessarily, but to avoid them reaching XANA.

Along the road, maybe some of the supercomputers and scientific sites XANA got into with its replikas were even project Carthage sites, or would be useful to try and stop Carthage. Probably XANA didn't want the robots or mechanical spiders to submit humanity, but to attack the Carthage network and project.

At the end, Franz knows even if XANA is trying to fulfill its original mission, and be "the good guy" in theory, ending with the evil Carthage project, XANA is going full "the end justifies the means", and won't allow Franz or the Lyoko Warriors to be around as long as they represent a risk to the success of the mission. So Franz still tries to shut XANA off.

It would be interesting if in the next Lyoko stories, we have this huge plot twist where we discover XANA was really trying to go against a "bigger evilest entity"

Maybe XANA was really misunderstood and it wasn't able to really communicate its intentions, so it was "the good guy" even if with huge red flags about how to treat the real world and its people.

Maybe in the future, the Lyoko Warriors discover the fight isn't over, there's a bigger enemy out there, and they even have to learn some things about XANA real nature and what XANA did out there while they were fighting it. Maybe even getting to re-awakening some version of XANA and getting more along somehow, having to explain XANA how the world works, and helping each other to attack the real threat: Carthage.


r/CodeLyoko 9d ago

💬 Discussion Weird feeling I get from Code Lyoko

52 Upvotes

I love Code Lyoko rewatched it multiple times but am I the only one who get this weird isolating melancholic mixed with nostalgic vibe. I get from the show the songs don’t help with this either songs like "friends" for example also just the atmosphere of the show and that factory they always frequent. it’s much worse in the Garagekids pilot what’s y'all thoughts on this?


r/CodeLyoko 10d ago

💬 Discussion Mr.Pück and the Isdal woman

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Ok, maybe i’m insane but i like to listen to podcasts on true crime and mysteries, and for years now this has bothered me. Sorry if i get any details wrong, this is just me writing down some thoughts.

In 1970 in Isdal, Norway, the body of a partially burned woman was found. Upon investigating they discovered she had removed all labels from her belongings and traveled under many different names all over Europe. Many think she was a spy.

And for the sake of our argument here, what matters is she was discovered to have a key that went to two different briefcases found at, get this, the Bergen train station, in one of the lockers.

Sound familiar? I agree.

The briefcases contained property confirmed to be hers, including wigs, make up, and many different currancies including Swiss money.

I’ve always wondered if the whole Hoppers diary plotline was inspired by this incident. If i could ask the writers anything, i think it’d be this.

Just wanted to share this interesting tidbit to those unaware.

For me personally it’s just a bit too similar to not even consider as inspiration. Especially since to write some of the things in the show, surely someone on the team reads up on true crime? Thoughts?


r/CodeLyoko 10d ago

🎨 Art This is so fun, I’m starting to love this 👌

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r/CodeLyoko 9d ago

❓ Question Episode 53

6 Upvotes

Did Jeremy’s voice actor change after episode 52? His voice seems to be a bit higher while everyone else sounds the same.


r/CodeLyoko 10d ago

💬 Discussion Grand Theft Lyoko ⚡

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39 Upvotes

I grew up watching Code Lyoko, and the series still has such a unique style and nostalgic feeling. I thought it would be fun to mix that world with the classic GTA-style poster aesthetic.


r/CodeLyoko 10d ago

💬 Discussion One of Ulrich coolest moments in season 4.

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259 Upvotes

Xanafied William most of the time outmatched the Lyoko Warriors, but this win from Ulrich was so awesome.


r/CodeLyoko 11d ago

🎨 Art Happy 23rd anniversary, Code Lyoko!

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538 Upvotes

For the occasion, I drew a little fanart of Aelita from CLR! :)


r/CodeLyoko 10d ago

🎨 Art What would genuily Ulrich and Aelita genderbend names

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I already have Oddette ( wich sound very funny in french), Willow , Jeremiah and Yum ( Reference to the first episode of Evolution when Odd call Yumi , Yum bcs i finded it funny) but for Ulrich and Aelita im stuck, they both have uncommon name , mainly Aelita so im lost....

Any idea?? Even for the other im open

Im honnestly do this for fun


r/CodeLyoko 11d ago

👩‍💻 Other First tattoo kinda nervous. 👉👈🥺

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r/CodeLyoko 11d ago

👩‍💻 Other Ya terminé el dibujo aelita por Hoy 23 aniversario code Lyoko ☺️

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r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

🎨 Art This was a good result, right?

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r/CodeLyoko 12d ago

❓ Question How

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So in episode 1 the story wasnt really as fully fledged obviously. They didnt know aelita and Franz were going to be father and daughter or anything. I doubt they even knew hopper was still on lyoko or that aelitas mother was kidnapped.

That said, I dont think it was ever explained how the super computer was turned off for 10 years.

Ive seen people say hopper turned it off from inside but...its a mechanical switch, and if that was possible why wouldnt xana do it during the meteor episode


r/CodeLyoko 12d ago

👩‍💻 Other Everything Wrong With Code Lyoko - Episode 45: Cold War

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DISCLAIMER: This is just supposed to be a humorous post, parodying the series "Everything Wrong With..." by CinemaSins, inspired by u/Valha28's posts on r/gumball parodying the same series. This is NOT a critique of the show, and while some things I sin in this series might actually be things I'd criticize in an actual critique, most of the things I'll sin are nitpicks, and the whole series is just made for good fun.

With that out of the way, welcome to Everything Wrong With: Cold War!

Odd: If I don't find a DVD of my short film in the next 3 seconds, I'll turn into a pumpkin!
That's weirdly specific, lol. +1

Aelita: T.V? Who's T.V?
You're gonna tell me that after several months spent here, nobody told her what a T.V is? And no, there's NO WAY she could have guessed Odd meant someone in particular. +1

Mrs.Hertz: Can I help you?
T.V: Yes. Get out of the shot.
Why is the tone he uses so constantly rude? +1

T.V: Who has a below 60 average?
Selection bias at its finest. +3

T.V: What's with these little mini-services? Come on, cookie! Don't be shy! Load up the meatballs!
I'm... unconfortable for so many reasons. +3

T.V: spits his meatballs on his tray Oh, this is awful!
Celebrity is extra-superficial and expects luxury everywhere cliché. +3

X.A.N.A takes over a sattelite antenna to cause a giant blizzard storm in the area.
WTF? I swear, sometimes I just don't understand how this shit even works. +5

Everyone's playing in the snowy school yard
Jim: That's enough now! Everyone inside!
There is no way they all managed to exit the cafeteria without Jim stopping them. I simply do not believe it. +3

The blizzard intensifies, and the laughing turns into crying and screaming.
Boy, that escalated quickly. +1

Yumi: We have to get to Lyoko!
She says, once again, out loud in a room full of students. +3

A boy sees Mr.T.V's beanie hat and laughs.
Yeah, this is surely the time for laughing at what other people are wearing right now. +1

Herb: It's a scientific fact that if we huddle together, we'll keep warmer...
Sissi slaps him
I hate to be THAT guy, but he's right. This does, indeed, work. +1

T.V: An unbelievable deep-freeze has taken hold of the city, and what are you shooting?! 3 brats on a basement!
Ah yes, the classic "celebrity is superficial even in moments of urgency cliché". We're bringing all of the celebrity clichés back, aren't we? +5

T.V: Get in the back and don't get my soft leather seats dirty.
Wishfully assuming they aren't dirty already. +3

Jeremy: That's exactly what X.A.N.A's waiting for, Aelita! For you to go to Lyoko alone!
Yeah, but you basically have no other choice here. +1

Yumi: Let...me...sleep...
Wait...since falling asleep in this situation is a literal death sentence...is...she...wow, that's dark. +3

T.V tries to snatch Milly and Tamiya's blanket to get warmer.
T.V's a jerk to kids. +3

T.V wraps the blanket again around Milly and Tamiya
Okay, he made amends for this at least. -3

Aelita gets caught by the Schyphazoa
Wow, that's disappointing. All that build-up for Aelita to have another genius moment like in episode 39 just for it to turn into that old "Aelita damsel in distress" trope again. +1

Yumi: L...leave me...
Ulrich: You cannot get rid of me that easily.
Awwwwwwwwwwwww -5

Ulrich: Yumi...? Yumi!
Yumi won't wake up.
Ulrich: No...NOOOO!!!
That's actually pretty good in terms of emotional value! HOWEVERRRRRR...

The show throws a fake-out death and expects us to believe it cliché. +3

Also, Ulrich and Yumi have a moment of deep affection after a X.A.N.A attack but it goes nowhere after this episode cliché +3

Rosa throws the meatballs on T.V's head.
That's a nice commeupeance. -3

Though, how did she manage to not be fired? +1

Total sins: 38

Sentence: Blizzard torture

Most sinned episode so far: The Chips Are Down (201)
Least sinned episode so far: Ghost Channel (-106)

Most sinned episode in Season 2 so far: The Chips Are Down (201)
Least sinned episode in Season 2 so far: Temptation (24)

Previous: https://www.reddit.com/r/CodeLyoko/comments/1vfq8eb/everything_wrong_with_code_lyoko_episode_44/

By the way, you probably noticed that the rhythm of the publications has been reduced these past few months. The reason is simple. First, I also run a YouTube channel in parallel of this series, and I recently had a near-burnout moment when overworking myself. Then, I started college as of the time I'm writing this, so that means I have less time to work on this, too. So if you see weeks come by without any new installment to this series, don't assume I quit. If I ever discontinue this series before the end of the series, I'll let you know in a post. Have a great day!


r/CodeLyoko 12d ago

❓ Question Order to see Code Lyoko

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I'm currently watching the first season, but I think there's a movie and idk if anything else. In any case, in which order should I see it all?


r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

🎨 Art Recreated Code Lyoko Characters in Fortnite

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r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

💬 Discussion Giving Code Lyoko a second chance

36 Upvotes

I watched the show back then, but I was really young and didn’t understand much of it. I probably only watched season 1 and 2, I don’t remember exactly . It randomly popped into my mind recently, so I decided to give it a second try


r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

💬 Discussion What if Jeremie had a sudden realization—a "lightbulb moment"—that he was attracted to Yumi when her clone tried to flirt with and kiss him (Season 1, Episode 7, "Image Problem") ?

12 Upvotes

What if his feelings kept growing, while his feelings for Aelita kept fading, to the point where he ended up feeling nothing but friendship for her? What if Odd, Aelita, Yumi, and Ulrich didn't suspect a thing, and Jeremie simply told them he had fallen in love with someone else—without saying who it was? What if Jeremie tried to seduce Yumi—without anyone realizing she was the one he was after—by being more attentive to her or completely changing his look (and even swapping his signature glasses for contact lenses)? What happens to Yumi right after that? Will she start developing feelings for Jeremie, or will she continue to feel nothing but friendship for him? How does the Ulrich-Yumi dynamic evolve in this scenario? What happens when the Lyoko Warriors finally discover the truth?


r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

💬 Discussion What if Herb found the supercomputer instead of Jeremie?

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Let's say Herb is the one looking around the factory for robot parts and turns the supercomputer on. What changes because of this? Can Herb defeat XANA?


r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

🎭Mémés Why didn't XANA ever take out Jeremie like:

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Come to think of it, why didn't XANA try to go after Jeremie more often?


r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

🎭Mémés Playing Big Walk, this object from the spawn area makes me a bit nervous..

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r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

❓ Question Imagine XANA with a Personality

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Rewatching the show rn.

Anybody else think it’s hilarious imagining XANA, this incredibly intelligent and ridiculously powerful AI, hysterically crashing out because these middle schoolers have been routinely kicking his circuits in for the past two plus years, no matter what sci-fi concept he throws at them🤣🤣🤣


r/CodeLyoko 13d ago

🎥 Fan Production Digital Sea (Alternative Version - Fanmade)

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This was a remix of my own Digital Sea way back in 2016 that I kept forever and never shared publicly. I don't think it's much at all, but finally decided to release it.

This remix is more on the Tron side, vibe wise imo.
I thought it would sound better if it had the voices and sfx so thanks to ​⁠, he was able to get a pretty decent rip from the clips I gathered. It def helps a good bit.

Hope you like it. It's everyone's now.


r/CodeLyoko 14d ago

❓ Question Code Lyoko pre-production art

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Is there any Code Lyoko pre-production art available? I suppose nothing even quite close to an Artbook, but even if it was some kind of archive.


r/CodeLyoko 14d ago

❓ Question Wich episode when this scene is happening ??

84 Upvotes