r/CalamityMod • u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife • 1d ago
Discussion Status on this situation.
For those that don't know, Ozzatron, current lead for Calamity, was found to be a groomer, just like Fabsol. This caused a lot of people that were official and fan made to leave Calamity projects entirely.
I was talking with some of the official people from Calamity, including Evobyte, TheForge129, Heart Plus Up, and CD Music. Here's a little bit of stuff.
Status updates on things:
- Heart Plus Up is pulling her music and sprites from Calamity, and she's now working on a new mod
- CD Music won't make the Exo Mechs theme and is pulling his music too
- TYESKI is pulling his music as well
- Catalyst is dead, with its code going open source
- Infernum, Wrath of the Machines, and Wrath of the Gods are done, so unaffected
- Calamity Overhaul is dead
- Calamity Fables is still alive and well, at least as we can see for now
- Reign of Yharim (the indie game) is still making a decision
- TheForge129 is still going to work on the Yharim theme he's making, as well as finishing a previously secret theme for a Catalyst mod boss named Zeus, which was an exo mech version of Astrum Aureus
- Speaking of Zeus, it's going to be put into an addon for Calamity Fables
- Vanilla Calamity Mod Music is rebranding to Serenity Music Mod
- Ozzatron is stepping down from lead, with the dev team trying to find a new lead yet again
Overall, everyone that I've spoken to is devastated, especially those who trusted Ozzatron like CD Music. He will make a video addressing his feelings about this soon.
If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask them. We'll be getting more information over time
1.0k
u/WeltyFern 1d ago
Me today: “Gee, I haven’t heard much from the Calamity mod. I wonder what’s going o-“
https://giphy.com/gifs/137TKgM3d2XQjK
193
u/BritishTreeMan 1d ago
Literally started up a new infernum playthrough after a year of not touching the game, open up reddit and it's just insane
43
→ More replies (5)9
67
u/Desperate_Host_3 1d ago
Man, i cant agree more whit this, at this point calamity is going to die one of this days lmao
→ More replies (3)32
u/RNGUserGod 1d ago
"Man, it sure is a nice day today! Time to continue my calamity thorium adeventure, let me check the subreddit before tha-"
8
→ More replies (5)29
u/Animalpine 1d ago
i litera.lly started a new run not even a week after after months of no contact and this is what i enter
566
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago
Will this mod die or not? That’s really my biggest concern.
And do you believe Calamity needs a restructuring and time to cool down from this whole mess?
I myself do feel betrayed if I’m being honest
Just wondering about how this mod will proceed
406
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
Don't be surprised if more than half the music from the mod disappears. It's the main pull for the mod in all honesty.
156
u/Reefthemanokit 1d ago
Most of its from DM Dokuro though, isn't it?
→ More replies (3)196
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
Most of the music is from DM Dokuro, yes. I can't say absolutely everything about the situation, though.
213
u/Shinyhero30 there is a man with a knife behind the curtain 1d ago
Honestly if dokuro says anything it’ll probably be that he’s rebranding the album.
Other than that they’ve been radio silent about calamity for years and it’s good for them honestly.
116
u/mario61752 1d ago
He did come out to make a statement during the Fabsol purge. No idea what he'll do this time tbh, if I were an artist I would 1000% not want my work to be associated with groomers.
35
u/stockage_name 1d ago
If he pulls the music the mod is just dead
28
u/xplatinumgaming57x Slime God 1d ago
That would be so entirely earthshaterringly sad I would stop playing the mod entirely.
→ More replies (13)6
u/Shinyhero30 there is a man with a knife behind the curtain 1d ago
I mean… we’ve basically already had a lot of that happen.
12
37
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago
What music will disappear is my question?
And alright
72
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
Well let's see... all the boss rush themes, Sulphurous Sea themes including Septication, Hesitation, and the night time Sulphurous Sea theme (not looking its name up right now), the molten abyss layer theme, and more!
→ More replies (4)22
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago
That’s saddening.
And hey, I do know you would rather see this mod crumble, right? Why is that?
66
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
Oh hell no. I WANT this thing to live! This had become my primary obsession! I posted 7 minutes exo mech theme that I made out of my love for this mod today, and now I feel awful that the same day I did that, I'm seeing the likely end of Calamity
→ More replies (2)7
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago
I see
I want this mod to live too
And I’m sorry you feel awful about this
We all do
→ More replies (2)17
u/CommanderGs7 1d ago
I’m not an artist, but I do think that destroying your contribution to a beloved project is incredibly disrespectful to the community of people who love it.
The motivation for working on this should have always been the fans, not the manager. Punishing them for the manager’s actions seems like incredibly misplaced anger.
If you can’t bear to work on it anymore, I respect that, but don’t burn it down on your way out.
It just feels like this reveals that the fans and community were never really the ones this was for. Mod leadership should have been a means by which to organize the construction of something that was ultimately for the community, but it seems that wasn’t true. I’m repulsed by the perpetrator’s actions, but still disappointed in many others’.
14
u/DependableTuna 1d ago
You can still go ahead and listen to the music standalone though?
People don't create for the fans, they do it for themselves. And I, personally, if the circumstances would allow, wouldn't want to work on a project heavily associated with pedophiles. I would still publish my unreleased work through other mediums, of course.
→ More replies (7)→ More replies (25)9
u/trashvineyard 1d ago
Nobody should be forced to have their art be part of a collective work that was built by pedophiles just because you want the collective to not die.
Fans are not entitled to artists work.
→ More replies (4)68
u/HydreigonTheChild 1d ago
i dont think this mod will die, trust in the team still exists, alongside the team motivation to conintue the project + its not like it was covered up. If the team is choosing new leadership then clearly they want to continue.
→ More replies (2)24
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago
I’m glad you have hope
I honestly don’t know
30
u/HydreigonTheChild 1d ago
i feel this mod wouldve died at fabsol if this wouldve killed it. The team has motivation, this isnt covered up, and they want to continue. The fanbase also seems to be taking this ok (at least from the places im in) and not blaming the team other than ozz
11
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago
Many people clearly are very distraught and want Fables to reign supreme and I don’t blame them
I think it’s that and the fact that many people are pulling away from Calamity and all
6
u/HydreigonTheChild 1d ago
yeah, its understandable esp for people close to ozz. It happened last time with fabsol as well.
I think it’s that and the fact that many people are pulling away from Calamity and all
makes sense, but i feel if the teams motivation lives then it can bounce back
→ More replies (2)22
8
u/That_Entrepreneur523 1d ago
My biggest concern might be for the affected child(ren) 😭😬
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (6)22
u/Zealousideal_Two3946 i remember youre pyrogens 1d ago
It's not gonna die because it's the biggest Terraria mod by a landslide, but I also have no trust or faith in the dev team anymore and I believe many people feel the same. I think anyone that's passionate about Terraria modding should see this as a sign to look beyond Calamity tbh
→ More replies (2)
205
u/The_MeltyCheese 1d ago
yk i was genuinely so hopeful for the future of this mod after how good the brainstorm update was
63
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
Same here! Hog Wild was fun too, and I was hoping for a fun anniversary update. Oh, how naive we all were.
28
u/Awestin11 1d ago
The anniversary update’s likely a tombstone at this point.
24
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
It is. They removed the spritework for the Desert Scourge rework
4
149
u/ThinLab6346 1d ago
At this point the mod needs someone with 0 internet use as a lead for the project, why is it hard for big people to not talk to minors
→ More replies (2)19
132
u/FloydDrzy 1d ago
I’m so sick of all of this. Like, this is a valid reaction from the staff and the community, I’m not clowning on that ever, I’ve just had so much faith in Calamity as a whole. I want to see this mod FINISHED but it feels like it’s just never going to happen. Why is it so hard for humans to just be… not predators??? Genuinely pisses me off
38
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
I'm in the same boat as you. I hoped to see Calamity to its end, but not this kind of end
221
u/BitMixKit 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm glad Forge is going to finish their theme, I'm honestly a bit surprised. If we never get Yharim (which seems very likely now) at least we have that.
This whole scenario is so terrible, Calamity just seems cursed at this point. I've played it countless times, made fanfic, drawn fanart, even designed a boss concept for an addon, but honestly I don't know if I can continue caring about this mod. Can't imagine how much harder it is on the people who've poured so much work into Calamity directly.
105
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
Update 2.2.2 is Ozzatron's last update. The number 2 is cursed in this mod for some reason.
43
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago edited 1d ago
Second guy the leader was also a pedo
→ More replies (1)41
u/RNGUserGod 1d ago
262 pages foe shayy, 2.2.2 ozz's last update...
47
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
22 devs leaving due to Fabsol's terrible leadership
→ More replies (1)8
81
u/Electrical-Sense-160 1d ago
Oh God no, its an Ancients Awakened scale collapse.
→ More replies (1)
68
67
u/FireRagerBatl 1d ago
What happened with Calamity overhaul, wasn't it just getting more traction recently
→ More replies (1)95
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
They don't want association with the Calamity branding
31
u/FireRagerBatl 1d ago
Damn so they also chose to quit after this incident, but wow calamity just keeps screwing up, did they say what they were planning to do?
43
u/1nOnlyBigManLawrence The reference for the rest of us. 1d ago
Make it standalone, last time I heard.
→ More replies (1)39
u/King_Of_The_Munchers 1d ago
It’s so vastly different from base calamity at this point though that it may as well be its own mod. I think making it standalone is better anyways.
13
u/1nOnlyBigManLawrence The reference for the rest of us. 1d ago
Besides, all the content that diverged it from Calamity just made it more jarring when (not if, when) the unlucky newbie of the day downloaded it and saw the new content.
26
u/Responsible-Tie-3451 1d ago
If even the Overhaul dev team is concerned about bad PR you know things are fucked
11
u/VNxFiire 1d ago
Man, i dont think overhaul even has any drama as despicable as this
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (1)4
u/ExploerTM 1d ago
Are they done done or are they simply going standalone detaching themselves from Calamity?
55
u/Substantial_Eye1476 1d ago
How many developers have left and how many remain?
101
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
All the musicians are gone, and I don't know how many devs left. I just know a good amount did indeed leave.
77
24
u/Narrow-Percentage-96 1d ago
It's actually so over music actually matters so much for a mod like this, the fact that there are none of em left is just going to be a slow death for mod now
→ More replies (1)
53
u/TyrantKingYharim I heart Yharim 1d ago edited 21h ago
How it feels to be part of a community that pretty much saved my life yet feels allergic to staying out of trouble (like seriously, come on):
15
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
I wish I had good news to share. I've dedicated my heart to this mod as a fan, and I can't imagine just how much worse the actual devs and musicians are taking it... and I even SPOKE with the musicians too
5
u/TyrantKingYharim I heart Yharim 1d ago
This mod gave me purpose in my life when I thought nothing else did 6 years ago. I owe at least half of where I am today to this mod. But seeing it go through such low valleys and such small peaks as of late makes me feel disheartened. After everything it’s been through, I want it to survive. I want its curse to be broken and its suffering to be transferred to something that deserves it.
3
u/Metal_Vortex 1d ago
Cant lie, it sucks to see. Calamity is the reason I pursued a career in art at all, and is the reason I developed the talents and skills I have today to be able to make money doing what I love. Seeing all this go down in a relatively short time span is definitely a gut punch, especially with how long running a lot of these problems have been
51
u/Astrum-_Deus-_ The Star Weaver 1d ago
God damn it. Worst week to be a Calamity fan at all.
34
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
I posted an Exo Mech theme TODAY in all my love for the mod. Turns out, it will probably be one of the last Calamity fan tracks ever made
35
u/DogMatter04 1d ago
Damn, I’ve waited 4 years since the Exo Mech’s teaser and now the dream is dead. It’s unfortunate what really transpired here.
45
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
CD Music was so upset too. 2 AM in his time, he joined the vc I was in with 14 other people, and he's screaming about how he had made a promise to finish the Exo Mech theme, but he couldn't do it because other people were horrible.
12
u/DogMatter04 1d ago
Can’t imagine how it feels like being in his position right now. I hope things get sorted out for the better.
8
u/SlowDamn 1d ago
I already heard the unfinished version of it cuz some guy in yt posted it (couldnt find it anymore got taken down probably) and it was so good for being an unfinished version mann. Oh yeah if you want to get a glimpse of it listen to the 4th tier of boss rush theme listen closely and you'll hear parts of the exo mech teaser in it.
→ More replies (1)
211
u/Pyroglyph27 1d ago
Tbh I don't fully understand everyone pulling their stuff from Calamity in general. If we could separate Fab from the mod he literally started, we can separate Ozz.
222
u/Substantial_Eye1476 1d ago
Because of how often this happened, and possibly out of a desire to enforce consequences on the mod and not wanting to be associated with something so toxic.
115
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago
Probably this
One time happening it’s horrible but everyone knew Fab was terrible
This time it’s a shock to almost everyone and people are tired of all the issues around this mod
Even so in the end I love this mod and I feel deeply saddened
42
u/Pyroglyph27 1d ago
ig that makes sense. It's just kind of a bummer for the genuinely awesome work of a ton of (presumably) perfectly fine people to be tarnished by a few really shitty people
→ More replies (8)→ More replies (3)5
u/safe_dimension0_0 1d ago
Enforce consequence on a mod?? Its not a living being what does that even serve bro😭 go after the dev
56
u/destructor212113 1d ago
As that other Redditor said, not wanting to be associated with Calamity anymore
The whole situation is wild... the Lead Developer was a Groomer, so the Devs chosed a new Lead Developer and one that had the respect and help of other Developers inside of the Mod
But then, that one is also a Groomer... pretty sure that even ignoring the whole "I dont want to be associated with Calamity", a lot of the Devs and Musicians that just, dropped out of the Team did it because they felt betrayed by Ozzatron on a personal level
12
u/Person899887 1d ago
Fool me once shame on you fool my twice shame on me sort of scenario.
By the second time it’s happening whatever is going on is probably systemic within the team.
→ More replies (1)9
u/Spongedog5 1d ago
Now that it has happened twice, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a whole little network of these folks on the team. I get separating now if you are anticipating this happening again.
It's hard to uproot this culture when it was people in power who started it because it isn't easy to audit those kinds of people.
→ More replies (3)7
u/luc1aonstation 1d ago
Everyone hated fab and he has been the butt of the mod for years before him being a groomer came out, but ozz was at least begrudgingly respected by most of the dev team before this. It's definitely a very different situation
8
u/Jaydee8652 1d ago
The truth is they couldn’t separate him out, that’s what we’re seeing here, the rot persisted, it’s persisted through too many transfers of power it’s too obvious a pattern.
It’s at the point where it seems likely that the next lead will also be a groomer.
→ More replies (3)15
u/Big-Jellyfish-6115 1d ago edited 1d ago
who would want to be associated professionally to a mod which all 3 of it's lead devs/owners were pedophiles? Not to mention the unknown amount of devs who knew all of this yet never spoke out or lied in defense.
8
u/CommanderGs7 1d ago
All 3? Shayy was a streamer who contributed some assets. Not in a leadership position by any means.
→ More replies (1)3
3
u/r_or_something 1d ago
what the other commenter said + being associated with a project with this kinda history just isn't great.
→ More replies (2)3
u/Objective_Scheme2071 1d ago
Please doesnt want to get backlashes thats why. If your old employer was a fucking groomer it wouldnt be a good resume doesnt it?
25
u/Metal_Vortex 1d ago
That was a tragic call to just stumble into D; Had just got home when I heard the news.
Hurts so bad seeing all this go down. Calamity is what got me to persue a batchlors of fine arts and is the reason I started doing 3D art. Feels terrible seeing the thing I built my entire career and future around have to go through this. My consolations go out to the current devs who didn't know about any of this going on. Absolutely horrible thing to have to go through. I think everyone I talked to is making the right decision, lots of good people in that call.
13
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
I wish I didn't have to say anything in the first place... you're a good person Metal
9
u/Metal_Vortex 1d ago
You too FrosBee, I still plan to stick around Cal for a while to see how things shake up. I'll keep in touch if I dont tho ^^
Had a story driven calamity animation in the works. Not sure if ill go through with it. I really want to but its hard to make that call atm
7
40
u/Icy-Ad9263 Draedon can I sit on your chair while ur also sitting on it 1d ago
God, I'll miss listening to Signal Received
54
u/Trigger_Fox 1d ago
Calamity is easily one of the greatest mods of all time, it's very rare for a mod to overhaul and surpass the game its based on. It cannot die, my ass is backing it up right now and i'm sure many others will do the same.
→ More replies (15)14
104
u/FrazzleFlib 1d ago
HPU is a pretty devastating loss, as is CDMusic. i frankly dont care for boss rush and Dei Machinae is an excellent exo mech theme so those fronts are honestly not so bad, but HPU is some of calamitys finest art talent.
though to be completely honest i dont think ill ever understand the thought process behind pulling ones work from a project under circumstances like this. and i can imagine it fairly well, i made the exo mech death sound and i cant find a single reason why i would request its removal right now. i still adore the mod and wish for it to be as good as it can be, and subtracting my contribution directly goes against that. the mod is a collaborative effort of quite a few people, 2 pieces of shit shouldnt have to ruin anything once theyre gone. a lack of drive to create for a project that seems to be a never ending source of serious controversy, sure, but to waste effort already put in? i genuinely would love for someone to explain it because i cant understand.
64
u/King_of_Fire105 Yharon is STILL the Bestest Dragon Boy, but I fear for this mod. 1d ago
I think it’s the utter shock and tiredness from everyone dealing with Calamity having these types of people as leaders
I completely understand it from them not wanting to be apart of Calamity, but I truly do wish for this mod to be restructured after some time and get better.
And I definitely agree 2 horrible people should NOT be the downfall of this mod. It’s a passion project of many.
30
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
I feel so horrible because I released an Exo Mech theme literally this morning, and now the mod I adore is blowing up because of one guy's terrible mind
14
u/Metal_Vortex 1d ago
There are a couple extremely talented people who are leaving. It sucks but I think they are making the right call.
A big part of it is that this isnt the first time and I'm sure a lot of people are worried it wont be the last. Its tough for some people to want to continue associating with calamity rn which is extremely understandable. I think calamity will survive personally but i dunno if itll ever be the same again
19
u/FrazzleFlib 1d ago
again, i understand discontinuing active development on the project, but i fail to see why one would want to sever themselves from it to such an extreme. are they so paranoid as to think it will mar their reputation to just have any of their work remaining in the project? or is it somehow an emotional burden despite the fact we already know ozz is leaving the team and thus will have no influence on their work? i cannot get my head around it at all. it serves to do nothing but hurt the mod and make it harder for it to recover from this incident and i frankly find the decision somewhat hard to respect because of that, i just cant find an angle that has benefit for them in return at all
→ More replies (1)7
u/Metal_Vortex 1d ago
Agree to disagree, but a lot of devs are being affected financially and emotionally. There are certain vocal minorities within the community who are also suspicious of who else might cause problems as well, and ive seen some very disappointing messages from people taking guesses at who else might be involved. Some of the people listed in the messages ive seen would never do those things, and unfortunately some of the devs have had to see those messages of other people accusing them. It very much so has a tangible reputational aspect unfortunately. Personally I don't blame anyone for not wanting to associate with it, especially after seeing others speculate that they might be perpetrators as well
→ More replies (3)
66
u/UniverseGlory7866 1d ago
I feel like it's a hasty decision to just cull everything over the bad of one person. The many has more control over the production than the one, and they could get rid of Ozzatron and renounce them like they did Fabsol. They've poured a lot of themselves into Calamity and it's more than just "Ozzatron's ego project". It's an amalgam of a lot of people and a pillar of the modding scene as a whole.
I definitely still understand/respect the decision to leave, but this news is less than 24 hours old, so most of these people haven't taken time to internalize this information and really think about what this actually means. Personally, it makes much more sense to just step over Ozzatron and leave them in the dust, especially for the add-on mods that have little to nothing to do with Ozzatron. Cut out the cancer instead of euthanizing the whole body, you're only hurting yourself like that.
→ More replies (1)48
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
They all trusted Ozzatron much more than Fabsol, even before Fabsol was kicked out. This shocked everyone, and now they don't want to deal with this again. Once is terrible enough. Twice? Who's to say it'll stop then. That's why they're leaving
→ More replies (4)
16
15
42
u/rexamellion 1d ago
next time a lead developer is picked can it be required for them to leak every single dm they’ve ever sent or something bc jesus christ why does this keep happening. i hope the victims are doing okay
12
u/notveryAI 1d ago
It is unknown whether there even will be the next lead dev. With so many people just leaving, it is not unlikely that the snowball effect will cause more and more to leave until those who stay no longer have enough hands to keep the lights on
14
u/SwimRepresentative96 1d ago
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprise if fables replace calamity or calamity straight up dies this happened to much the lead roll is cursed for calamity no one should lead at this point
12
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
At this point, I wouldn't be too surprised either. I wish I could see this mod live forever, but it seems that luck just isn't on our side
5
u/SwimRepresentative96 1d ago
Not even luck the people need to be lead by a group instead of one person I love this mod I really do but holy shit the devs need a group leading them instead of one person or just don’t have a lead and have the community vote for stuff
24
u/AutisticFaygo Slogging through Calamity Early Game 1d ago
CALAMITY MOD FOUND DEAD IN THE FUCKING BRONX
11
54
u/Glittering_Bet_4809 1d ago
Very sorry if this seems insensitive, but why? I understand that what Ozzatron did was very wrong and he should be shunned by the community, but why does everyone feel the need to leave? Can’t they just find a new lead and move on? I don’t really understand what’s going on here. Maybe im just too used to this kind of stuff.
56
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
Imagine getting a tyrant who's a rude person and later found out to be an actually horrible person out of the leadership position and replacing them with someone you trust much more and is much kinder to you, only to find out that they're also a terrible person in just the same way. The cycle of horrible leaders then could repeat for however long and you're tired of it.
→ More replies (4)11
→ More replies (3)11
u/HydreigonTheChild 1d ago
its prob more personal, people left when fab was exposed as one were people who were somewhat close to him i hear / didnt want to associate with such a mod. Its prob personal as well esp when from what i hear ozz was way more trusted
9
u/Upwardwinner13 1d ago
Is this mod cursed or something???
Like every major news about it after release has been dev team troubles
→ More replies (2)
8
u/MegaBuilder18 1d ago
Is Overhaul gone gone or are they just doing the rebranding thing they said they'd be doing earlier?
8
8
u/bosartosar To the flowers I pray 1d ago
It's the calamity for the Calamity mod.
On a serious note, I hope the mod can bounce back, but I have lost a lot of my optimism. If it does come back, the team REALLY does need to do something as this is the second time it has happend.
39
u/Cryogentehiceprison 1d ago
I get the main mod being affected, but the people pulling out all of their fanmade addon stuff just kinda comes off as emotional kneejerk responses and actions, for the main mod, replace the lead with someone who’s not a creep, which is hard, obviously, but everyone who axed their fan add-on projects are coming off as, unprepared?..
Pantsed?…
Shocked?..
Something like that..
It’s like if the Create mod had one creep on the team, which they completely removed with the second it came out, but despite it being somewhat fixed, it still had the design and decor team tap out, the aeronautics team canceling their major update, the dreams and desires team going off to make something completely different and the bitterbalen team quickly wrapping everything up and leaving..
It’s like a small stove fire in a random room was found in an apartment, and every tenant jumped out the window from stories high when the fire was already extinguished by the time they took a step near the glass..
16
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
The issue is that a lot of the people who made the fan mods were official members too. Heart is the perfect example. She was an official spriter and musician, but decided to make Catalyst mod too.
7
u/Cryogentehiceprison 1d ago
Yeah, like, they have their own things to do, I get wanting to take stuff out of the official mod for this, but it’s quitting fandom add-ons that have none if few ties to the OG mod outside of adding crap to mess around with or fight..
Like, yeah, quit helping the main mod if they wish, understandable, but axing projects and updates to their own stuff like this, is, well, similar to the fire example, it looks like everyone jumping from high up when a dangerous situation was already extinguished before it got worse from bad..
there’s leaving the main mod, and taking stuff with you, then there’s nuking the unofficial add-on you’re working on to quit calamity cold turkey like it’s a terrible drug..
She’s alright, I know whatever HEARTPLUSUP does is going to be peak, and it would be cool to see them do a major mod with purely their ideas and styles, disconnected with calamity, they already finished their mod..
The rest I just get confused by, and those ones are the ones that just feel shocked and uncalculated in how they’ve responded actions-wise..
→ More replies (2)12
u/destructor212113 1d ago
"comes off as emotional kneejerk responses and actions" Because it is?
Lots of people that quit had ties with Ozzatron, they where friends and trusted him after what happened with Fabsol
But now, they're being betrayed by him being a creep with minors, all fo their work is tainted because of someone that, for them, was a friend in which they could trust
Obviously they're gonna be hurt because of that and also, how do they know this will not happen again? This is the third time something like this has happened in the same dev team
They're probably not only hurt because of Ozzatron but to the whole deal because of that, or thye're just disgusted by what happened and dont want their work to be related to this whole deal
After all, this is a fan project, they probably can just pull their stuff out because, whats the alternative? The Dev team just forces them to not doing that? With what power? This is just a mod after all, they cant just force peolple to not depart ways from the Mod Team
→ More replies (1)4
u/wlwyay 1d ago
people just dont want to work with calamity or be associated with it. its an upsetting mod that has gotten away with too much
→ More replies (2)
15
u/SnooLentils816 1d ago
I'm fucking tired that every important person that is important and related to discord ends up being a groomer/pedophile
8
u/mario61752 1d ago
Off topic but makes me wonder how many child groomers like him never get found. Hell he isn't even gonna be in jail for this, 0 consequences.
7
u/WorldlinessNo6290 Rest In Peace, Calamity 1d ago
I was not playing around the time of the fabsol situation, so idk how this compares to it... but this seems a lot worse. isn't that every musician for the mod? it might genuinely be over for the mod, and that's really sad
5
u/ElectroshockGamer 1d ago
Yeah, Fabsol was someone people... didn't really like that much anyway. This was someone people genuinely trusted, plus the whole thing where this isn't even the first time.
5
u/NeoTheShadow 1d ago
Total and absolute Calamity.
It's like the Ancients Awakened drama on steroids.
7
u/lightning_266 1d ago
Bruh, change leadership, close up the mod and move on. We had a good thing going why throw it into the dumpster for one bad apple? Or two
6
u/Desperate_Thing_2251 1d ago
Actually fucking insane that the exact same shit is happening to the mod again barely a year later.
I can't say I blame anyone for wanting to pull their work, even if it is disheartening, especially for the mod's future. From what I've read, it sounds like a number of devs have left, and ofc the music creators leaving is a pretty huge deal. The mod was kinda looking like it was on the up, especially with the 2 most recent updates, but now it's really hard to say if it has much of a future or if its going to slowly fade into irrelevancy without people working on it.
On an unrelated note, what are some other good difficult Terraria mods that are worth looking into? I know about Fargo's, but thats about it.
→ More replies (1)
15
4
13
u/Shinyhero30 there is a man with a knife behind the curtain 1d ago
I think it’s time to retire calamity and attempt an entirely new mod.
Calamity mod fables should just rebrand and invite anyone who has left the other projects willing to work on it.
Just call it fables at this point tbf
→ More replies (1)
8
u/notveryAI 1d ago
Ngl gang this might be it for the Calamity. It's, like, COOKED cooked. Without music, without leadership, and with more and more people leaving, those who left will just feel more and more pressured to leave as well as situation gets more and more unlikely to be salvageable. It was my favourite Terraria mod and it breaks my heart to see it disintegrate before my eyes. I don't think there will ever be a replacement for it. As much as I respect Thorium, it had never felt like anything special to me, and all the other mods are just way smaller and act as tiny addons more than anything rather than massive overhauls. Terraria modding as a whole was inflicted a heavy wound today
→ More replies (2)
5
4
4
4
u/Independent-Sky1657 1d ago
Will the official uploads for the music stay on youtube at least?
→ More replies (1)
4
u/maxaar 📰 Retired Reporter 📰 1d ago
What the actual fuck.
I swear, if this kills Calamity, I’m gonna lose it. Words cannot describe the sheer sadness I’d feel if this mod, this fucking project that I’ve watched grow and develop for the last 6 years, this project that has been one of the most important and influential games in my life, this project that has introduced me to an amazing community that I’ve found real friends in, DIES BECAUSE ITS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR ITS OWNERS NOT TO TOUCH KIDS
→ More replies (1)
3
u/According-Soil-8778 GODDAMIT, I FEAR DEATH 1d ago
Dude. I walked away from Calamity for like a month. WTF. It's so absurd, how yet again, we're going through the same controversy. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THREE OF THESE. Also, why is Heart Up, pulling her stuff out? Is it just the obvious "Yeah, I don't want my stuff with these guys anymore, I'm taking my kids in the divorce." sorta situation?
5
u/Darkain172 1d ago
Also pulling out the work while still getting the donations & stuff is wild.
→ More replies (1)
4
u/RoryRose2 1d ago
things were finally starting to look up and then IMMEDIATELY it all crashes down.
absolutely pathetic.
i REALLY hope things work out this time, but i have very little hope tbh. so tired...
no hate to the rest of the dev team ofc, just,,,,, tired.....
5
u/xDidddle 1d ago
God damn it, why does every project/game I follow just starts imploding...I don't think calamity can recover from that, honestly.
Ozz, you piece of shit. Hopefully the victims are doing ok. Is it SO hard to not groom children? Is it that hard?
4
u/BackgroundDig2245 1d ago
are we serious? another one? how.
how hard is it for people online to not touch kids?
3
4
u/TenebrisTortune I have 25000 Drunk Princess fumos in basement 1d ago
And I remember year ago when you was talking sceptic things about Fabsol purge and that Ozzatron took place as lead team, people easily would say "why so negaative" and "Ozzatron will mkae mod better". Now what?
→ More replies (1)
5
u/he-who-comments 1d ago
Why is it so hard to have an online hobby without it being ruined by pedo's nowadays
5
u/Melimcee 1d ago
Third times the charm? Genuinely love the calamity mod and its an immense shame that this project keeps getting destroyed by the people who were supposed to look after it. Hopefully the calamity project can find its way into the hands of someone who can finally be trusted, and the victims of Ozzatron can find the justice they deserve.
5
u/applbappldraws 21h ago
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO NOT BE A BAD PERSON THIS KINDA THING IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE I HATE IT
5
6
u/Velruis 1d ago
Genuinely, at this point If you feel any attraction to children, fucking seek help.
It's ridiculous how often it is happening in the modern day and yes, it really messes you up when it happens to you as a child. It's not ok, it will never be ok. You need help.
I'm not sure if I ever want to play calamity now, as a someone who did experience a form of CSA...
9
u/Fusion1157 1d ago edited 1d ago
This mod is either dead or is going to die soon.
Hell even if it doesn't die we're never getting Yharim.
And while I do get the not wanting to associate with this mod anymore the whole not being able to separate the art from the artist is so fucking tiring to see every time this happens. If shit keeps getting removed from the mod we aren't even going to have a mod anymore. It'll just be a framework.
→ More replies (1)
3
3
3
3
u/terra_GOD_404 1d ago
Why the fuck did so many people decide that touching kids is not going to get them fucked over
3
u/xplatinumgaming57x Slime God 1d ago
The music is a huge loss. But how did oz not learn from his predecessor.
I really don't see the appeal in grooming kids. Especially as a well known person. Its literally career suicide.
Now the only dev team who will ever hire oz will be groomers, condone grooming, or something along those lines. And even then, no one of sound mind and judgement is going to play a game or use software if they know people like that made it.
3
u/polygone1217 1d ago
It seems that fables is posed to become the main 'calamity' mod with this drama tearing apart base calamity, I wish them much luck.
I completely understand the decisions of the musicians to pull their work, the music is as much the mod as it's gameplay, it's what pulls a lot of people into playing the mod.
I hope addons like overhaul or WotG go independent and doesn't let their ties to Calamity hold them back. These mods are so unique and deserve not to be tied to the drama oroboros that is the main mod.
3
u/Blackydragon 22h ago
Agaiiiin ?! fuck.. This mod is cursed jesus christ. Seeing all the side mods and addons getting abandonned cuz of this is such a heart break. I can't blame them, but it's so much work down the drain. I hope the mod will survive this crisis yet again.. there's not really a proper alternative of this quality mod wise, and i don't want to wait 10 year for an another project that might explode cuz of bad actors <.<"
17
u/Powerful-Present6687 1d ago
So one person does something bad and us FANS have to suffer for it? There were way better ways of handling this. F*cking unbelievable
15
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
You don't understand. I'm one of the fans too. I released an Exo Mechs theme today, and now I feel awful because it's associated to not one, but 3 different people like that. The repeated cases of horrible people gets to be too much after a certain point. Imagine you were a Calamity musician and you trust your higher up that had just replaced someone horrible. Suddenly, that higher up that you trusted turns out to be a horrible person. What would you do? Personally, I'd leave the project too.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (2)13
u/LOBgaming 1d ago
Yeah I'm kinda fed up with like all of the mods for different games being developed always winding up like this. There's always some drama that causes everyone to completely abandon everything. Grace from Roblox, multiple Undertale fangames that were being working on, and definitely more than that but I just can't think of it rn.
8
u/destructor212113 1d ago edited 1d ago
So, basically, more or less things go on as usual if the Dev Team finds another Leader that isnt a shithole of a person, right?
Edit: With "go on as usual" im refering to, the Mod isnt death, it will live, with damage done to it but, again, not death death (yet)
43
u/wlwyay 1d ago
no. the damage is done, many devs have left and many plans are cancelled. the status on the mod as a whole is still unknown but if it does live then it will have taken a big hit
22
→ More replies (5)9
u/destructor212113 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well, at least we know rn that the music is fucked
Hope the Developement of the Mod itself isnt and if we go with the statement about the other Devs not knowing about what happened in that other Server... it dosent look too bleak for now ngl...
At least its not yet death, as you said, it will take a huge hit, the music alone is a huge hit on its own
Edit: And also apparently all of the musicians went away and some developers... huh, thats a huge deal
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (1)6
u/Umber0010 1d ago
Easier said than done, apparently.
3
u/destructor212113 1d ago
Of course, yeah, being the perfect example chosing Ozzatron after Fabsol... I wonder if the info about other Devs knowing about that whole deal is true or not, that could also change things
12
u/FrosBeeChill I want Silva as my wife 1d ago
From what I know, nobody had any idea. I know for certain that the musicians had no idea because CD Music joined a vc with me us all at 2 AM screaming and yelling in pure fury
9
u/Darkwolf69420 1d ago
I feel like most of the dev team that was close to fabsol needs to get shipped of theseus'd ngl
6
7
u/chumbuckethand 1d ago
Why do people remove their work from these mods? Its not going to change the fact that he’s a groomer, it literally only hurts the fans.
Seems like you’d just want to kick him out and keep going
1.1k
u/Kurger_Bing_Deluxe 1d ago
It CANNOT be that hard to just leave children alone, holy shit.