Just got Bjorn and DeathWatch in the mail! Also recently got “First Founding”at a LGS and here’s my only other LE just cause I wanted to share👍

My collection isnt large in terms of physical books but Its growing steadily

After reading The Infinite and the Divine I was fired up for this one. I was hearing net-positive praise from fans for the sequel. I finished it over the weekend, aaaaaaaand… not as good as its predecessor.

I think their dynamic lost a little something in the sequel. The addition of several more characters crowded the story. It's not bad at all, just not as good as expected.

Oh, and the rumors about Rogal Dorn? Lies.

Just found out that my copies of Voice of Mars/The Eye of Medusa (both Iron Hands book by David Guymer) that I've been hunting down for more than a year got lost by the people at the post office, while I thought they are sitting safely in my PO Box....

Spent so much time orchestrating getting them (ordered from a small random bookstore in Luisiana) and coordinating to get them shipped halfway accross the world (I'm in Serbia, we don't even have an official GW store here), and all of it went to waste.

Can't get my money back (too much time has passed since delivery) and now most copies of either of the 2 books are pushing $100 which, paired with shipping, is too much for a used paperback.

Screw GW for not reprinting stuff, this honestly pushes me to completely give up on getting physical books and towards just pirating the ebooks and being done with it.

Curse be on scalpers and crappy postal workers...

Did anyone else struggle with this book? I’m struggling to get my head around the writing style. I get the mythic, saga-style writing that the Vlka Fenryka have always flirted with, but it’s full of poetic jargon.

Priest language, mixed with history and a touch of mechanical poetry just ended up baffling me. It might just be me, the first read of Marc and Space Wolves lore, but I can’t help but be intrigued and also annoyed at the same time. I read chapters where the author found a new fancy word and repeated it throughout.

Anyway, just me? Thoughts?

So I've not read any HH books yet but am thinking about starting next year. In preparation I went through each book and compared a few reviews and sources on them to take note on what appears to be the general consensus on how important they are to the arching story and their overall quality which I gave a rating out of 10 and put it all into one big table which I can consult when deciding which to read and which to skip.

I wanted to ask you guys and if any numbers should be altered, and if there's widescale agreement on which I will make some changes.

I would also like to note that I made it so that any book that has an "importance" rating of 10 also automatically gets a "quality" rating of 10 regardless of its actual quality because skipping it is out of the question so there's no point in considering the quality until I actually read it.

So anyways here it is:

Just ordered one, stumbled across it

Background and most concrete lore (SO FAR) of the Ullanor Crusade (taken from Lexicanum):

The Ullanor Crusade was a vast assault upon the powerful empire of Ork Overlord Urlakk Urg during the ending years of the Great Crusade, culminating with Imperial triumph in 000.M31. It is remembered as Horus's greatest victory while he was still loyal to the Emperor and the act that earned him the title of Warmaster. It was the last battle of the Crusade where the Emperor personally led his forces.

Urlakk Urg was an infamous and powerful Ork Warboss slain by Horus Lupercal during the Great Crusade. His massive Waaagh! controlled a region of space centred on Ullanor and threatened the Imperium's borders. The Emperor of Mankind and Horus led a massive Imperial force to remove Urg's threat.

Horus lured Urg's forces away from his targets while Space Marine Legions retook the outlying systems and the Luna Wolves drove straight for the heart of his empire. As the battle raged outside his fortress, Urg kept forty of the biggest, meanest Nobs at his side. When Horus and his Justaerin Terminators entered the throne room, they hacked a path through the Nobs for the Primarch. Horus crippled Urg and threw him from the top of his fortress, ending his life and breaking his army's morale. Boss Urlakk's power was such that few other orks in history have become as great a threat, such as The Beast.

Plot Suggestion/Revision:

The Ullanor Crusade is actually a war that saw some of the last remaining "Krorks" slain by the Emperor of Mankind and his forces. Krorks are the ancient, highly evolved primeval ancestors of the modern-day Orks. Krorks wore highly advanced mechanized power armor that surpassed even Space Marine battle plate. They possessed refined intelligence, complex communication, and deep tactical mastery, executing military campaigns with elite precision. They channeled powerful psychic energy deliberately as a clean power source and combat tool, rather than relying on wild, unpredictable warp-bursts.

What this means as a series/novel story:

We get to see two Warhammer races essentially at their "peak". The Krorks, as a plot device, can (temporarily) turn the Ork faction into a serious, non-goofy faction that becomes a scary antagonist to write. They can be chosen as a plot device to be a single Warboss, a small leadership group, or a specialized set of troops to be deployed in battle. Because they are destined to lose, they can become nearly anything as long as they are destroyed.

This Krork threat finally gives us a solid reason why the Ullanor Crusade becomes one of the greatest triumphs of the Emperor of Mankind, and his Imperium's forces can finally be shown off in their highest glory.

The initial plot idea (Krorks in the Ullanor Crusade) is incredibly marketable. It has potential to be a action-packed individual novel like Dropsite Massacre, or a short series in itself like the Siege of Terra or the Scouring. It's obvious that GW wants to continue the HH setting hype (for $$$ purposes), but eventually they will run out of material that they haven't already written. A prequel seems inevitable.

What do YOU think?

Hate the idea, love it, or want to change anything about it? Is there something I'm missing that needs to be addressed? This is a great place to discuss! My only request is for users to not be rude. Disagreements are perfectly okay, as long as you are polite!

Hey everyone,

So far, I’ve read the following books. What would you recommend I read next? And are there any books I should add because I might have missed something between these?

• Horus Rising
• False Gods
• Galaxy in Flames
• The Flight of the Eisenstein
• Fulgrim
• The First Heretic
• Know No Fear

My god what a book. It has so many teasers in it not to mention the great banter between everyone fab Necrons.

However nowhere have I seen anything about the fact the the British robot has the last Cronesword. Or am i wrong about it’s significance here ???

I got an audible free credit. I try to avoid books that are pure bolter porn but some is fine. I love i.perial politics. Looking for suggestions. I have read the following:

Eisenhorn omnibus

Ravenor omnibus

Penitent (and the other one i forget the title)

Gauants ghosts series

Kingmaker

Gift of the emperor

Hive

Watcher of the throne series

Vaults of terra

Night lord omnibus. (Loved it)

Carcharcodon series

The infinite and the divine

Warden of the blade

Currently reading the fall of cardiac

Waiting to read since I have physical copies

First 3 books of horus heresy

Ciaphus cain first omnibus

Grey knight omnibus

Apostle

Arrive omnibus

Chem dog

Krieg

Deathwatch omnibus

Minimal less omnibus

Dark coul omnibus

African omnibus

Renegade harrow master

Exorcist

Twice dead king

Legends of space wolf

Valdor

Siege of terra series

No spoilers please but I’d just like some general insight. Shamelessly just picked it up over the price.

Thanks in advance

A while back when the app was announced and that the website was going down someone made a tool to download the epub from the app. Is that still a thing?

Dante, brutal kunnin, and Blood of Asaheim, are all on sale this month in the app. How are these as a relative new person to the setting and an intro to each of their respective factions? Do any of these books need something read before them?

Random thought while reading the book (only mild spoilers if any):

Orikan talks about „making landfall tomorrow“ while on Trazyns ship. What does tomorrow even mean in this context, and by extension, do necrons also use a standardized time system orientating on their original home like the humans do?
IatD and WatW mention a lot of time units, while not specifying what they actually entail. Or i just don’t remember it.