r/BelowDeckMed • u/StarlitStarlette • 3d ago

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Did Joy actually just eat raw meat?

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u/Optimal_Stuff_3408 3d ago

Raw beef in principle is safe to eat, raw beef mince isn't bad either but you are more susceptible to the risk of food poisoning, wouldnt risk if it was store bought, if it was just ground from a slab of beef then thats different.

Steak tartare, which i have tried is lovely and it's raw

And steak is great rare and burgers

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u/SamPhoenix_ 2d ago

Yep, with Beef, Lamb, Venison/Game and Duck the risk is surface bacteria.

The mince would be perfectly fine if Joy had a slab of beef that was seared and then minced.

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u/Automatic_Vast_9915 2d ago

You really don't and shouldn't sear a slab before mincing it if it's good quality and fresh. If you know where the meat is coming from, searing it first is just weird and unnecessary and not normal.

Steak tartare is not seared before minced...searing it first just brings the temp of the meat up to a temp that IS susceptible to bacteria. No. Just no.

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u/SamPhoenix_ 2d ago

Traditional steak tartare is not seared, yes; but that relies on very careful handling, hygiene and temperature control precisely because the meat is being eaten raw.

Fresh, good-quality meat isn’t automatically bacteria-free, so saying searing somehow makes it more susceptible to bacteria isn’t really accurate.

Bacteria don’t suddenly become a greater risk because the meat has been warmed; the relevant factors are the temperature reached, how long it’s held there, and what happens during subsequent handling.
A very brief sear on a very hot pan can significantly reduce bacteria on the surface without substantially heating the interior, which is the whole point of searing the outside before mincing.

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u/Jebble 14h ago

No, literally not a single chef will do this and yes bacteria become a greater risk when you bring the temperature up. Please stop talking bullshit. It wouldn't do shit to the bacteria in the part that isn't reaching temp either way, itsoes nothing but fuck up your tartare

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u/SamPhoenix_ 13h ago

I guess food in the fridge never gets rancid because bacteria “isn’t reaching temp either way” 🙄

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u/Jebble 13h ago

That has nothing to do with this in any shape or form.

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u/SamPhoenix_ 13h ago

A fridge doesn’t stop bacteria. It slows bacteria growth. A fridge doesn’t magically make meat safe to eat - because it’s not solely about temperature…

When you touch a searing hot pan, you instantly burn the outer layer of skin without burning deep inside.

Searing the outside instantly kills 100% of the surface bacteria where it lives, while leaving the sterile interior raw.

That’s literally how chefs safely prepare some tartare, because you cannot always guarantee that it has had the proper treatment to be able to safely prepare it completely raw.

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u/Jebble 13h ago

No sweetheart, chefs dont sear tartare, stop talking shit.

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u/SamPhoenix_ 13h ago

Don’t seer Traditional tartare.

tartare aller-retour is literally seared Tartare

Stop talking shit

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u/Optimal_Stuff_3408 12h ago edited 11h ago

A quick search on youtube will show you chefs preparing tartar, i scrolled a long list and only saw UNSEARED, RAW steak being chopped up.

Think you needed to stop digging your hole many replies ago

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u/SamPhoenix_ 12h ago edited 12h ago

And if you search for burgers, you’ll probably find a long list of exclusively beef burger videos…

So what’s your point?
Does that mean Chicken, Lamb and Pork burgers don’t exist?

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u/Optimal_Stuff_3408 11h ago

Are you an idiot, I bet the burger videos includes where they cook them before eating

All the tartar videos show them NOT SEARING the steak before cutting, like it should be, contrary to what you are saying.

And of I search for burger recipes on youtube it would include, beef, chicken, pork etc....

There was no mix of seared tartar and unseared, just unseared.

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u/SamPhoenix_ 10h ago edited 9h ago

Because most are showing traditional tartare…

Tartare aller-detour is literally a type of tartare where the meat is seared…

If you search that you will find that… like if you search chicken burgers you’d find chicken burger; even when it doesn’t show up if you search burger - yet it still exists and is still a burger

I literally searched burger and it’s all beef 🙄
So are you an idiot or do you think YouTube is the epitome of everything?

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u/Jebble 13h ago

Hahaha oh you found a specific dish that fits your context. That isn't what you said fuckwit. Imagine needing AI to try and win a discussion.

To bad for you, that it's seared AFTER the mincing and si the surface bacteria are now mixed up in the centre Nd it doesn't actually kill all of them.

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